Sore loser: Obama and Obamedia accuse McCain of “cheating”

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 18, 2008 12:52 AM

No, really. The Obama camp and its media water-carriers are seriously accusing John McCain of “cheating” in his appearance over the weekend at Rick Warren’s Saddleback church forum because he was in his motorcade when the program started– and then escorted to an empty room without media hook-ups. NBC’s Andrea Mitchell spread the unsubstantiated rumor that somehow McCain heard Obama’s questions while on his drive. The nutroots went, well, nuts. The NYTimes piled on (“Despite Assurances, McCain Wasn’t In a ‘Cone of Silence’“). The McCain camp has protested.

And now we have the spectacle of the Democrat presidential nominee and his press entourage bleating about the “cone of silence” because he didn’t fare as well as his opponent.

Yes, the Obama has just confirmed that it is operating in a cone of abject stupidity. Maybe a little less fun in the sun next time, eh, Barry O?

The event wasn’t even head-to-head. How is the Obama team going to behave should The One wipe out in an official debate this fall? The wah-mbulance will be working overtime.

Oh, and I think we know where the Left is headed again. Remember “Is Bush Wired?”

Predicting a massive run on tin foil from now until November…

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More:

Warren told CNN Sunday evening, “we flat out asked him” if he heard any of the questions. The McCain campaign “confirmed that McCain did not hear or see any of the broadcast” in the motorcade or after he arrived, Ross said.

When asked if McCain overheard anything, Charlie Black, a McCain adviser who was with him at the time, told CNN: “We were in motorcade until 5:30 p.m. ET; then a holding room in another building with no TV.”

Warren said, “I trust the integrity of both” candidates, and said he “knew they would abide by the rules.” He joked McCain may not have been in the cone of silence, but “he was in the cone of a Secret Service motorcade”.

Scott Ott: Har. How McCain breached the cone.

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Update: Here’s the full transcript of the forum.

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  1. #411776
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, madchef said:

    If I was McCain I would do a commercial for Miracle Ear just to mess with the Obamaniacs minds.

  2. #411777
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, shooter said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 10:50 am, ajmontana said:

    then druged Obama’s cup so that he would be in a daze and confussed.

    madchef, are you serious? so, they are admiting he was dazed and confused. priceless. roflmao

    Definitely my favorite.
    Obama did sooo bad ’cause he was drugged.
    Now , WHO(M) did the drugging? McCain? the Secret Service?
    Snob-ama itself?

    Irrelevant, obama stammered his way into dumbo history. This showed his (as the left calls it)”thoughtfulness” really comes across as STUPOR, a drugged blabbering fool spewing lies.

    I am embarrassed that any schmuck so irreversibly narcissistic and ignorant could be even in the running for the highest position in the land.

    Hey Dems, is this guy the BEST YA GOT?

  3. #411782
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, lgm said:
    It’s absolutely true: “Despite assurances, McCain was not in the cone of silence.”

    No amount of huff `n puff will change that.

    Isn’t this blog a little about your pay-grade mathboy? Tell us all knowing one, how do you know he listened in? I live in South Florida and because of the internet, I was not in the “cone of silence”. Idiot.

  4. #411786
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:35 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    about your pay-grade …above your pay-grade…

  5. #411787
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:35 pm, Chard402003 said:

    Andrea Mitchell suffers from the same disease that Obama suffers from. She cannot make a clear thought without a teleprompter. To “speculate” that McCain cheated at Saddleback is incredible and simply proves she should be working for the Obama campaign instead of pretending to be an objective journalist. Obama for his part should take his whipping like a man rather than continuing to make that elitist whining sound he always makes. I won’t be watching NBC or its campaign affiliates any longer.

  6. #411794
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    One thing I’ll give McCain credit for – he was willing to speak his mind to his captors in Hanoi. I don’t think the word “equivocation” is in his vocabulary.

    I absolutely agree! McCain was magnificent in his candor and honest reflection; “for once in my adult life,” I was proud to have President McCain represent my party!

    My guess is Bill is making a lot of calls on behalf of Hillary right about now…

    You know it! While Obama tanked at Saturday night’s forum, Hillary’s stock rose three hundred percent among Democrat insiders.

  7. #411795
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, NC BLUE said:

    I’m surprised that Obumbo’s bus made it to the church on time what with all those people under it. UHHHHHHHERRRRRRUHHHHH-would you repeat the question.

  8. #411806
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, ajmontana said:

    right after the Saddleback Forum was over I switched to Fox News and the first person on was Sammons? not sure but the Tired Hawaii vacation line was the first thing off his lips, I about died, too funny, then when that lame excuse wasn’t going to fly the cheating one is getting legs which is exactly what they want, but we saw it and NO-ONE except the lib fools and DEM wits are buying milk from that cow.
    Odopey for once didn’t get away with blowing smoke up everyone’s rump.

  9. #411827
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    What it really boils down to is this – if you have to make excuses (i.e., resort to lies and cover-ups) for him. Perhaps you should be rethinking your support of such a person. That little tidbit won’t cost you anything… free of charge.

  10. #411832
    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, dakine said:

    soap, what would you do without your boy lgm?

    Round 1 to McCain for sure. He excels in those types of settings. Obama wasn’t terrible, but McCain was very, very good. Guessing the forum wasn’t very widely viewed, however…Olympics, etc.

  11. #411839
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, BrianNY said:

    #171 lgm said:

    It’s absolutely true: “Despite assurances, McCain was not in the cone of silence.”

    No amount of huff `n puff will change that.

    From the first paragrah of the NY Times article you are quoting:

    Senator John McCain was not in a “cone of silence” on Saturday night while his rival, Senator Barack Obama, was being interviewed at the Saddleback Church in California.

    Did you and the NYT really picture John McCain to be sitting under a small plastic dome, somewhere backstage, for up to 60 minutes before going on stage?

    That’s a hoot. You try sitting under a small plastic dome for an hour before preparing for an hour long lecture before an audience.

    That will be some talking point this fall: “but…but…but…he was supposed to be under a cone of silence!”

  12. #411845
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, lgm said:

    On-my-soap-box said (#184):

    Tell us (insult omitted) , how do you know he listened in?

    I don’t. And you don’t know he wasn’t. The deal was that we would be sure. We aren’t.

  13. #411857
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, fmfnavydoc said:

    Barry O – The Wizard of Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh’s and Ooooooosssssss…

  14. #411858
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, longbow said:

    lgm, oh you of small mind, even if McCain *was* listening in, how did that/could that make Obamessiah give such lame answers? I thought he was soooooo smart, that’s what you all have been telling us! Or is “nuanced” just another way of saying “wishy-washy” and evasive?

  15. #411859
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, Thunder_Run said:

    The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the – Web Reconnaissance for 08/18/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.

  16. #411860
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, ajmontana said:

    Nothing explains that Obama was a total dipstick with all his answers….
    cheat or no cheat…..
    But it still looks like all his Dembots are safe. :roll:

  17. #411869
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, lgm said:

    longbow said (#195):

    (insult omitted), even if McCain *was* listening in, how did that/could that make Obamessiah give such lame answers?

    This is deflection. The question is “Did McCain cheat?” Even Pastor Rick Warren says he did. McCain was supposed to be isolated in the studio to make sure he could not hear the questions. He was not.

  18. #411872
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, dakine said:
    soap, what would you do without your boy lgm?

    dakine,

    Be afraid. Be very afraid. ;)

    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, lgm said:

    I don’t. And you don’t know he wasn’t. The deal was that we would be sure. We aren’t.

    So, you HAVE to assume he cheated because Obummer (much like you) is void of the ability to debate (or even answer a simple question). Why don’t you just start wil – Obummer got pounded? dakine was able to.

    What we ARE sure of is – Obummer get pounded and you can’t take it.

  19. #411874
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, wighttrasch said:

    It was Katrina that made B. Hussein give such crappy answers. ‘Cause, you know, uh, hurricanes hate people and all…

  20. #411877
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, lgm said:
    The question is “Did McCain cheat?” Even Pastor Rick Warren says he did.

    Yet another thing you have in common with Obummer – lies.

    Show us all where Warren said McCain cheated or shut up.

  21. #411879
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, wighttrasch said:

    **crickets**

  22. #411881
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, DBNinKY said:

    The question is “Did McCain cheat?”

    But the answer remains the same: Obama LOST! Obama’s responses were not dependent upon whether or not McCain was listening, but upon his own inability to put forth a straight-forward answer.

  23. #411883
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, lgm said:
    The question is “Did McCain cheat?” Even Pastor Rick Warren says he did.

    Yet another thing you have in common with Obummer – lies.

    Show us all where Warren said McCain cheated or shut up.

    Yeah, I was kinda wondering about that myself. From everything I’ve read this afternoon, Warren denied the possibility of McCain’s having overheard any of the Obama interview.

  24. #411887
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:36 pm, Salt said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, lgm said:

    This is deflection.

    This is irony.

  25. #411893
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    ROFL at Salt

  26. #411894
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, ajmontana said:

    Listening to people try and defend Odumbo on his preformance at the Forum is killing me…… if laughter is the best medicine for it I’ll live to be 100.

  27. #411896
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, ajmontana said:

    Rush just mentioned Hot air and ed on his show. 8)

  28. #411900
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, ajmontana said:

    Team Obama acknowledges infanticide lie
    Aug 18, 2008 8:00 AM by Ed Morrissey

    This it what Rush was talking about.

  29. #411903
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, chapman said:

    McCain should run with this, openly challenge him to more of these town hall debates. The sore losers are willing to go so far as to call McCain a cheater, but are too craven to ask for a rematch. So let McCain call for it, say that he wants to put to rest any doubt about this “cone of silence”. Obama will be trounced, again.

  30. #411909
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    Of the people on stage, the individual with the least integrity was Obama. To accuse McCain of cheating is silly and shows just how poorly Obama did. In addition, the cheating claim also damages Pastor Warren as it is aimed at him as incompetent to hold such a forum. Actually, the news media is embarrassed by the fact that this Saddleback forum asked really tough questions and was a far better mechanism than they could have put together to expose the pros and cons of each candidate.

  31. #411912
    On August 18th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Obama went first. His answers came from his Private School, Harvard educated, Law Review Editor’s mind. Nothing McCain did or didn’t do had anything to do with what Obama said or didn’t say.

    5th from the Bottom, U.S. Naval Academy: 1

    Harvard Law: 0

  32. #411940
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:15 pm, mojack420 said:

    “Of course, because I’m a journalist, I’m not expressing my own opinion,”

    I am going to have to call Bull**** on that.

  33. #411956
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pm, Trollman said:

    This is how McCain cheated:

    McCain: Oh no, Obama just answered the abortion question with “that is above my pay grade”! He took the greatest answer ever! I am powerless to come up with a better answer than that. Oh well, guess I will just have to say what is really in my mind when they ask me that question.

    /snicker

  34. #411974
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, lgm said:

    Salt said (#205):

    This is deflection.

    This is irony.

    Nice comeback, but I don’t agree. This entire flap was caused by McCain people going ballistic over one sentence spoken by a news person on TV.

    Obama did not offer it as an excuse. Obama supporters agree that his answers were not influenced by McCain listening in (if he was).

    If the McCain people had said: “Yes, he was supposed to be in isolation, though he was not in the beginning. We apologize for our failure to comply with this aspect of the agreement. We state for the record that John McCain did not listen in nor was he given any information about the questions.” That would (might) have been true.

    Instead they made themselves look foolish by blaming Obama for their violation of the agreement.

    It’s “might” instead of “would” because McCain’s people have not actually denied that they listened and provided their candidate with information.

  35. #411979
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:30 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    CCS (#107): You’re welcome. I saw that episode when I was a kid, and that scene always stuck with me. I found the clip but decided not to link to it because I figured someone could find it if they wanted. I…uh…assumed correctly.

  36. #411986
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:37 pm, longbow said:

    lgm, I find it remarkable that DemocRATs and leftists/liberals/socialists in general can hold (at least) two contradictory propositions in their minds at once, and be utterly convinced of them both!

    For instance, that McCain is not smart, that he has to be coached and fed information by his staff who told him Obama’s answers so that he would have a good showing. But somehow he’s smart enough to remember all the answers fed to him and deliver them in such a flawless and direct manner that he made Obama look dumb!

    Not that Obama needed any help with that…he was managing that all by himself.

  37. #411989
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, Trollman said:

    So, lgm, can you answer the question Obama couldn’t? When does life begin? And if, like Obama, you don’t know, isn’t it wise to err on the side of caution and not kill something if you think it might be a person?

  38. #411993
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, MajorKen said:

    My office buddies came up with a great SNL skit about Obama.

    Obama could say the words to “We are the World” making sure to pause for effect on every forth word.

    (Obama speaking)
    We….Are the world……….

    We….Are the Children…….

    We….Are the ONES to make a BRIGHTER day…….

    The camera pans out to the audience in loving adoration of the messiah with people clapping and wiping away tears of joy before panning to the news reporter…

    Moreover, Andrea Mitchell comments to the viewing audience that we are “seeing history in the making”

    Next, a very serious looking John McCain is asked what he thought about the great speech from Obama and a visibly alarmed McCain replies the speech appears to be a rip-off from an 80’s song.

    The camera pans back to Andrea Mitchell as she is caught praying to Obama before she realizes she is on camera. After quickly reattaching her lapel mic, she proclaims McCain has somehow cheated by reading the lyrics of the song and comparing them to Obama’s speech.

  39. #412002
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, Gorebot said:

    On planet lgm, the sun revolves around it, because lgm declares it so.

    Must be fun being able to override celestial mechanics at whim.

  40. #412003
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:49 pm, fulldroolcup said:

    Psst!!! Want a sure-fire market tip! Guaranteed to make you Big Bucks in early November???

    Find out who makes Kool-Aid and sodium cyanide, and buy their “put” options to expire November 5.

    Those products are going to fly off the shelves in the aftermath of Obama Hosanna’s landslide, no, make that avalanche, loss in the fall.

    Big profits to be made!!!

    I’m thinking of opening a sidewalk stand just down the street from my voting precinct, offering razor blades, vials of Clorox and thick (hemp).

    lgm: come on by! I’ll give you a deep discount!!!

  41. #412005
    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, groundhunter said:

    Jesus spoke in parables.

    Obama speech is nuanced.

    I get it.

    McCain beat his bottom good.

  42. #412014
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pm, Gorebot said:

    The ever-accumulating cascade of Obamian quackery is bound to puncture even the MSM’s Bubble of Denial sometime soon.

    But I wonder, when McCain makes his first major gaffe (something equivalent to The Messiah’s “By keeping our tires inflated we can save as much oil as they want to drill”), will the MSM remain as equally nonchanlant about that as they do about OBummer’s moronic blather?

    Sorry, I was in a daze for a moment there…please forgive me.

  43. #412015
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, sonofdy said:

    This is deflection. The question is “Did McCain cheat?” Even Pastor Rick Warren says he did. McCain was supposed to be isolated in the studio to make sure he could not hear the questions. He was not.

    So you assumed that McCain “cheated” (the whole topic is childish but anyway..) Do you hav any proof of that? Can you prove what you are saying? So he wasn’t in the “cone of silence” (ooooooo the cone of silence) can you prove that he was listening in? Even the preacher says he was in the “cone of silence” (cue the mystery music) for about half the obama interview.

    Grow up LGM, Obama got his ass handed to him. That Obamas fault not the high speed, low drag wonderfull “cone of silence”

  44. #412019
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, MajorKen said:

    Obama could say the words to “We are the World” making sure to pause for effect on every forth word.

    Oh man, I know what you mean – there are times when Obama starts and stops like William Shatner in a soliloquy from Star Trek!

  45. #412023
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, lgm said:
    Instead they made themselves look foolish by blaming Obama for their violation of the agreement.

    It’s “might” instead of “would” because McCain’s people have not actually denied that they listened and provided their candidate with information.

    I am just here to add to your self-loathing (because you just can’t seem to get enough).

    Instead they made themselves look foolish by blaming Obama for their violation of the agreement.

    They blamed Obummer? Where?

    McCain’s people have not actually denied that they listened and provided their candidate with information.

    We know you are a math teacher of sorts but can’t you read?

    When asked if McCain overheard anything, Charlie Black, a McCain adviser who was with him at the time, told CNN: “We were in motorcade until 5:30 p.m. ET; then a holding room in another building with no TV.”

    Gawd you are such an IDIOT.

  46. #412031
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, sbw999 said:

    Andrea Mitchell is quickly becoming a cross between Maureen Dowd and Dan rather…yeeeech!!!!

  47. #412037
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, Salt said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, lgm said:

    Salt said (#205):

    This is deflection.

    This is irony.

    Nice comeback, but I don’t agree.
    This entire flap was caused by McCain people going ballistic over one sentence spoken by a news person on TV.

    Ballistic… Interesting and emotionally charged description. The fact that you have you returned to comment more than once could be interpreted by some here as ‘ballistic’, but I digress.

    Andrea Mitchell said, “‘Obama people’ [were suggesting] ‘that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama. He seemed so well prepared.’

    Apparently writing a letter to the network as Rick Davis did showing his displeasure is ‘ballistic’ in your view.

    When Mitchell was challenged, she stuck to the notion that this was coming from the Obama camp. She must be lying, right? However, since you seem so quick to automatically believe Sen. McCain was cheating, we’ll put some credence in the idea that Mitchell may have actually heard this from the Obama campaign.

    Obama did not offer it as an excuse. Obama supporters agree that his answers were not influenced by McCain listening in (if he was).

    This does not make sense. Who suggested that Sen. Obama’s answers would be any different even if he suspected that McCain was listening?

    Besides which, Sen. Obama himself mentioned that there were topics that were given to the candidates by Rev. Warren.

    Out of curiosity, which question asked was so special it could not have been anticipated by either campaign?

    It’s “might” instead of “would” because McCain’s people have not actually denied that they listened and provided their candidate with information.

    Brooke Buchanan has denied it. Rick Davis has denied it.

    Heck, even Rev. Warren is now on record with “They’re dead wrong. That’s just sour grapes…”

  48. #412039
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, lgm said:

    On-my-soap-box (#226)
    quotes:

    (ad hominem insult omitted)

    When asked if McCain overheard anything, Charlie Black, a McCain adviser who was with him at the time, told CNN: “We were in motorcade until 5:30 p.m. ET; then a holding room in another building with no TV.”

    Carefully worded not to deny that McCain got information. There surely was a TV in the car McCain was riding in. Even if he wasn’t watching, others might have been and passed him information.

  49. #412057
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:32 pm, Salt said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, lgm said:

    Carefully worded not to deny that McCain got information. There surely was a TV in the car McCain was riding in. Even if he wasn’t watching, others might have been and passed him information.

    Here you go… It’s even cited from the NYTimes:

    Nicolle Wallace, a spokeswoman for Mr. McCain, said on Sunday night that Mr. McCain had not heard the broadcast of the event while in his motorcade and heard none of the questions.

    “The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said.

  50. #412058
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, sonofdy said:

    Carefully worded not to deny that McCain got information. There surely was a TV in the car McCain was riding in. Even if he wasn’t watching, others might have been and passed him information.

    Waiting for the proof….

  51. #412059
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, sonofdy said:

    not holding my breath

  52. #412060
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:36 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    Obama started to criticize Justice Clarence Thomas for being to “inexp—” and then had to stop himself because all of a sudden he remembered that experience was Obama’s own glaring weakness.

  53. #412061
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, luckydogg said:

    We know that obama did not cheat cause you can’t cheat on stupid

  54. #412067
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:42 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    Hilarious that the Left couldn’t recognize that on these questions, you don’t HAVE to prepare. They were not questions needing preparation. Either you know what you believe or you don’t. Mostly, they were as easy to answer as “what’s your favorite color?” C’mon, you know or you don’t know. These lefty excuses are funny.

  55. #412068
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:43 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, lgm said:
    Carefully worded not to deny that McCain got information. There surely was a TV in the car McCain was riding in. Even if he wasn’t watching, others might have been and passed him information.

    You are seeing a team of psychiatrists aren’t you?

    You have made some “interesting” comments and accusations. Tell us oh all knowing one, when will YOU offer evidence. Keep in mind, you saying something is NOT evidence.

    Is there just a chance McCain was speaking from his own mind and thoughts? Is there just a chance he was prepared by having the ability to answer questions without having to ask granny? Just a small chance?

  56. #412071
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    …or was McCain cheating because he couldn’t come up with a rebuttal for:

    UMM, ERRRR, IIIIIII, UMMMMMMM, IIIIIIIIIIIIII, ERRRRRRRRR

  57. #412073
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, purplepeep said:

    lgm said:
    McCain’s people have not actually denied that they listened and provided their candidate with information.

    Obama’s people have not actually denied that he was the ringleader of the 9/11 attacks. Nor has Obama denied being involved in the Gandhi assassination. I think you’re unto something there!

    On the other hand – and ironically enough,lol – Obama did openly confess to having cheated at this forum.

    But even with Obama’s confession and what with both campaigns having gone over the areas to be discussed along with being given specific questions beforehand, Obama sill failed massively at this “open book pop quiz”. How embarassed and devasted he and his campaign must feel!

    Laddie, the simple lesson for ObieWankaDummy to learn is to – as someone put it, “Hey, Obama: Take Your Ass-Kicking Like a Man!”

  58. #412076
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:48 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, lgm said:

    On-my-soap-box (#226)
    quotes:

    (ad hominem insult omitted)

    When asked if McCain overheard anything, Charlie Black, a McCain adviser who was with him at the time, told CNN: “We were in motorcade until 5:30 p.m. ET; then a holding room in another building with no TV.”

    Carefully worded not to deny that McCain got information. There surely was a TV in the car McCain was riding in. Even if he wasn’t watching, others might have been and passed him information.

    “Surely,” “might,” etc., are all weasel words demonstrating that you don’t have a single fact in your arsenal. With a carload of people, including Secret Service, that leaves a lot of loose ends for leaks if it happened.

    You just can’t get over the fact that your candidate just had to cover up the fact that his performance, as described by even Obamamaniacs, was weak at best, and pathetic at worst. The talk shows are having a field day with his “nuanced” answers. And by “nuanced,” I mean weasely.

  59. #412077
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, Cogs said:

    Um, ahh, um, well you know, um ah; well, thank you!

  60. #412080
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, vickisoup said:

    lgm said:
    McCain’s people have not actually denied that they listened and provided their candidate with information.

    Yeah, that’s right, Foo! Because it’s the SERIOUSNESS of the allegation vs the ACCURACY of the allegation, that truly counts.
    As I said: Foo.

  61. #412082
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Warren: Iraq just launched a nuke at Israel. Who would you ask for advice?

    Obummer: My mommy and Michelle.

    McCain: Gen. Petras

    Lgm,

    I see your point. McCain would need a whole staff to beat Obummer on a question like this.

    Okay, that was not the real question but I am dealing with someone who does not have real intelegence.

  62. #412084
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, xblade said:

    Carefully worded not to deny that McCain got information.

    Right, because everyone knows cheaters are so concerned about lying, so he had to come up with a carefully worded response, lol.

    It’s not the McCain camp’s fault that you can only speak and comprehend moonbat.

  63. #412089
    On August 18th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    It’s not the McCain camp’s fault that you can only speak and comprehend moonbat.

    :lol:

  64. #412092
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:01 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM: Still waiting for that proof that McCain “cheated”

    crickets…

  65. #412093
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:01 pm, fmfnavydoc said:

    Memo to:

    The Liberal/Progressive/Democrats,

    Your candidate, Barack Hussein Obama had his collective butt handed to him in this past weekend’s forum. If you do not wish to see a repeat performance in the upcoming Presidential Debates, do the following:

    1. Wean him off the teleprompter, ASAP!
    2. Tell him to come up with an original thought or idea, and to stop relying on his “handlers” for his talking points.
    3. Make a visit to at least one military base in CONUS, and see our wounded heroes – maybe that will teach him something about humility.
    4. Stop spinning your political history – you have nothing to spin!

    Failure to do any or all of the above will result in McCain mopping the floor with Barry O, and further the demise of the Democratic Party as we know it…

  66. #412096
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, GraniteMan said:

    A man who was tortured and underwent interviews by an enemy that promised and did torture at the end of them doesn’t sweat an interview in a church setting with the pastor who is an admitted friend. McCain’s background of executive decision, depth of experience and beliefs was very evident. McCain is a mile deep. BO has no depth, no experience, has never made executive decisions and he dances around every question until you are not sure what the hell he believes. He wants to be everyone’s friend. McCain wins HANDS DOWN!

  67. #412100
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, edelweiss said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Bill Grant said:
    saving the country from a dangerous lying incompetent.

    That’s Bush for sure. The worst President this country ever had.

  68. #412101
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, dakine said:

    If some of you (yeah you, soap) didn’t have lgm, I really think you’d have to make him up. Guy gets more play around here than the owner of the blog.

  69. #412108
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, ajmontana said:

    whos lgm?

  70. #412110
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, edelweiss said:

    The only good thing about McCain is that he isn’t against abortion. We women have the right to have unlimited access to abortion. Obama also is pro-choice.

    As a medical student, I have seen how abortions are performed. It’s a very fast and painless procedure.

  71. #412111
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, atheling said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, edelweiss said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Bill Grant said:
    saving the country from a dangerous lying incompetent.

    That’s Bush for sure. The worst President this country ever had.

    Coming from a moron who thinks that European superiority means having efficient abortions, that’s rich.

    You can’t even argue the theme of this thread – so you have to change the subject.

    BTW, the reason why you Euroweenies are so good at abortion is because you’ve had a whole century of practice in killing people: gulags, concentration camps, etc…

    Getting those ovens warmed up?

  72. #412112
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, 31Bravo said:

    lgm,

    “Bringing a pen knife of an intellect to a nukefest battle of wits”

  73. #412113
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    If some of you (yeah you, soap) didn’t have lgm, I really think you’d have to make him up. Guy gets more play around here than the owner of the blog.

    Did you ever just keep throwing the ball just to watch the dog keep coming back with it – because it was fun? We all need a pet.

  74. #412115
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:19 pm, purplepeep said:

    ajmontana said:
    whos lgm?

    I dunno, AJ. But apparently s/he-it is Obama’s debate advisor-prepper, going by The One’s public embarrassment the other night.

  75. #412116
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:19 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    It’s a very fast and painless procedure.

    Just like a German shower.

  76. #412118
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:22 pm, atheling said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, edelweiss said:

    As a medical student, I have seen how abortions are performed. It’s a very fast and painless procedure.

    Let me guess… the Josef Mengele School of Medicine?

  77. #412121
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:24 pm, Salt said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, edelweiss said:

    As a medical student, I have seen how abortions are performed. It’s a very fast and painless procedure.

    The fact that you refer to it as a singular procedure raises a question on your credibility.

  78. #412123
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:26 pm, lgm said:

    sonofdy said (#245):

    Still waiting for that proof that McCain “cheated”

    He was supposed to be in the “cone of silence”. He wasn’t.

    We know McCain broke the agreement. We don’t know whether he got information. That’s all I ever said.

  79. #412125
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, ajmontana said:

    yes, please discribe how “simple” it is. and don’t leave out emotional therapy/counsiling for the patient or is it just like gettin a burger from a drive through for you people?

  80. #412128
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, edelweiss said:

    atheling: I’m also an American citizen. I was born in USA, my parents were born in USA. True: I’m also European. In fact I have 3 passports (nationalities): USA, Switzerland and France. In many aspects Europe is much better than USA. I have lived in both continents, I know what I’m talking about :)

  81. #412130
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:28 pm, cicerokid said:

    obummers answers are not negated by mcains answers.

  82. #412133
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:28 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    The fact that you refer to it as a singular procedure raises a question on your credibility.

    She’s European, just bringing her failed socialist ideas with her. Not to worry though, Europe is about to face the end of it’s ultra-liberal ways as they are being outbred by their large group of immigrants who want to swing the pendulum so far the other way that they will be begging us to come save them a 3rd time. I hope we stay home.

  83. #412134
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:30 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    In many aspects Europe is much better more liberal than USA.

    Fixed it for you :D

  84. #412135
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:30 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Spoken like a true liberal. There is compelling evidence that abortion is not “painless” for the children murdered at the hands of the “medical professionals” you have watched.

    50% of all patients who undergo abortion die! And Obamessiah voted for laws that would compel the murder any of the children who managed to escape the abortionist’s hand! This is not the “safe and painless” procedure you claim.

    Shame on you!

    I sure hope you never treat me or my family.

    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, edelweiss said:
    The only good thing about McCain is that he isn’t against abortion. We women have the right to have unlimited access to abortion. Obama also is pro-choice.

    As a medical student, I have seen how abortions are performed. It’s a very fast and painless procedure.

  85. #412137
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:32 pm, John Ansell said:

    McAmnesty won this hands down, but he still needs to work on his humor.

  86. #412139
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, atheling said:

    WarEagle82:

    Shame is right. This “medical student” is a heartless b**** who sees nothing in murdering a helpless baby.

    edelweiss:

    Go back to Europe so you can watch your society die “painlessly”.

  87. #412145
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, ajmontana said:

    But john the libtard arguments around here provide so much. Do we really need more? 8)

  88. #412148
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:36 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Raise your hand if any of you planned on voting for Obama, only to change your mind after the Saddleback forum.

    I’ll wait.

    That’s what I thought, ZERO.

    The hell with the “cone of silence”. This is all stupid and meaningless. Obama did pretty well on Saturday, but McCain did excell in the format and crowd a little better. Of course the people on this board will prefer McCain’s unnuanced, fundamentalist answers. Others on liberal blogs prefer Obama’s answers. I find it hilarious how some of you are acting like the election is over, or Hillary will be dusted off. The forum was a panderfest(AS MANY OF YOU CLAIMED IT WOULD BE ALL OF LAST WEEK), and in the end will be a meaninglesss footnote.

    Let’s see who the veeps are. Let’s see who wins 2 out of 3 debates? Wait until the various 527s get to work in September and October. I’m not sure who is going to win on November 4th, but I’m quite sure that Warren’s forum won’t have “jack” to do with it.

  89. #412152
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:36 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM: He was supposed to be in the “cone of silence”. He wasn’t.

    We know McCain broke the agreement. We don’t know whether he got information. That’s all I ever said.

    Wrong, that has been the lefts whole point, that McCain cheated sand I am still waiting on proof from you or any of the other liberals that he cheated. Waiting.

  90. #412154
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:37 pm, cicerokid said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, edelweiss said:
    The only good thing about McCain is that he isn’t against abortion. We women have the right to have unlimited access to abortion. Obama also is pro-choice.

    As a medical student, I have seen how abortions are performed. It’s a very fast and painless procedure.

    Fast and painless…for YOU

  91. #412158
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, love2rumba said:

    Hey Eidelweiss,

    I’ve got news for you: Europe -especially Western Europe- wouldn’t be worth a damn without the US carrying the water for their defence and deciding to open its markets to their products after world war II-if any part of the world had that kind of extra emolument going for it, it too could be a snob sector of the world population.

    If you like Europe so much, why don’t you just relocate?

    I suggest though- once us uncouth Americans leave Europe- that you better work on your Russian and your knowledge of Crony Capitalism.

  92. #412159
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:39 pm, cicerokid said:

    emphasis mine. Robert e Grigsby. tippecaonoe, Indiana, cicerokid

  93. #412161
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:39 pm, purplepeep said:

    lgm said:
    He was supposed to be in the “cone of silence”.

    LOL. It’s absurdly desperate to believe CONTROL agent Maxwell Smart actually showed up and constructed some top secret device for the occasion. The reality is Obama is okay at reading totally meaningless speeches from a teleprompter, but turns into Maxwell Dumb the instant he’s asked even one substantive question. The bottom line is he’s not ready for prime time. At least not without 300 advisors and a teleprompter.

  94. #412165
    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, atheling said:

    On August 18th, 2008 at 5:36 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Raise your hand if any of you planned on voting for Obama, only to change your mind after the Saddleback forum.

    I’ll wait.

    That’s what I thought, ZERO.

    That’s cuz you’re all stuck on stupid.

    Obama did pretty well on Saturday

    Soft bigotry of low expectations.

    Of course the people on this board will prefer McCain’s unnuanced, fundamentalist answers.

    McCain was upfront, confident and decisive, as a leader should be. If you want “nuanced”, then go watch a film or read poetry. That’s not what the POTUS is about. Sheesh. You people are pathetic!

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