Is McCain going to screw conservatives (again)?; RNC says message received?
Scroll down for updates…3:42pm Eastern… Message received? Fox: “Several sources at the RNC told FOX News that in the last 36 hours, senior McCain advisers and aides have told RNC officials that McCain ‘got the message’ last week that choosing a running mate who supports abortion rights would not be helpful.” Don’t exhale yet.
Wouldn’t put it past him. Would you? Which is why, despite all the encomiums he’s received from his Saddleback appearance, I haven’t joined the ga-ga bandwagon (and won’t).
Rich Lowry reports:
NR has learned that the McCain campaign has been calling key state GOP officials around the country the last couple of days and sounding them out about the consequences of a pro-choice VP pick. The campaign is asking about the reaction of conservative grass-roots activists to such a pick and whether a pro-choicer can be sold to them. This is an indication that the McCain campaign is serious about the possibility of a pro-choice VP nominee and that McCain leaving the door open to Tom Ridge last week may not have been merely a friendly nod to a longtime supporter.
Sound off. Guess they didn’t hear you loud enough the first go around.
Hat tip: Big A.
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Update: David Limbaugh calls it…
McCain must quit echoing the Democratic talking point that places form over substance and the illusion of bipartisanship above principle. Who says Americans “want us to work together” if that means abandoning legal protection for the innocent unborn or other inviolable principles?
Update: McRudy?!?!?!
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Here we go again!
I think he feels he has Republicans over a barrel. Playing the lesser of two evils angle to the hilt.
At least he is asking. This way we can say no.
Based on the phrasing…its less that he’s asking, and more than he’s just seeing how much damage its going to cause when he does it.
But he’s a maverick, to him no means yes.
NO PRO-ABORT CANDIDATE.
Don’t screw this up, McCain. Life begins at conception, remember? Don’t pick someone who thinks the definition of “life” and “human” is as arbitrary as your opponent.
Good gracious, man.
Is McCain going to screw conservatives? Do a hog love slop?
Does McCain have anyone on his staff to monitor conservative blogs and listen to conservative talk radio? If he doesn’t he’d better get someone. He setting himself up to lose support from his base and certain Obama victory.
Like George, anytime (every time?) you get your hopes up with McCain you are at risk of a severe disappointment.
As far as the pro-choice thing, my guess is that McCain really wants to go after the disgruntled Hillary voters (and there are a lot of them, admittedly). Confident as he has ever been that the base has no where else to go (he’s right , of course), he must he fairly optimistic he can get away with it.
But Tom Ridge is such a zero. He’s like the little man upon the stair who was not there. I just don’t see the appeal of the man, though apparently some people in PA. like him.
This is all so weak, but what can we do? Ideas? Crickets chirping and all that. We’re screwed, indeed.
It doesn’t matter one bit who he picks. I wouldn’t waste my time voting for him or any other rino. I’ve had it with the LOTE’s and will never do it again. I will vote strict conservative down ticket only. To those of you who will support a liberal just because he has an (R) after his name, fine, go ahead but don’t jump me because i feel it’s time to show the republican, supposedly conservative, party i’ve had enough. Scru mccain.
Trouble is, McCain is calculating that Obama is just so bad for conservatives that we’ll vote against him, thus giving McCain free reign to do whatever the heck he wants.
Call the campaign, by the way. 703-418-2008. From the sound of it, I wasn’t the first to call and complain.
McCain/Palin
I think McCain’s campaign listens to Rush’s show and he went off on McCain hinting on picking a pro-choice VP.
So, hopefully, the campaign will listen to Rush and his audience and pick a pro-life VP.
Otherwise all that headway he earned on Saturday is gone out the window…..and that would be sad.
You are forgetting who McCain’s target demographic is; the muddled middle, moderates, independents, left of center democrats.
Pro-choice is a position that I can accept, even though I strongly disagree with abortion. In my mind abortion is legalized murder in the name of birth control and convenience.
What I can not accept, is a president that will appoint justices that use convoluted reasoning to rule that abortion is a protected women’s right as spelled out in our constitution. Our constitution says no such thing.
Rather than judging candidates on their stance on abortion, I would like to see candidates questioned on the Roe-vs-wade interpretation of the constitution.
it doesn’t matter who mccain picks, I’m not voting for him. I’m sick of this ‘lesser of 2 evils’ choice to vote for, so I’ll sit this one out.
I actually think mccain will do more harm than obama because he’ll constantly reach out (bend over) for the democrats, while pressuring the republicans to go along….at least with the messiah maybe the republicans will grow a backbone and become a conservative party.
Why is it if we acknowledge McCain did a good job and Obama didn’t that we are then on a “ga-ga wagon”? Talk about eating your own…..
Secondly McCain made it very very clear he is pro-life and his administration will be pro-life. No it would not be ideal if he picked Tom Ridge due to Ridge’s position on being pro-choice. But it would also not mean McCain’s Presidency would become pro-choice. So lets at least try to keep some perspective/context shall we?
Or is it that being on the “ga-ga wagon” is how we are going to lump even us conservatives now and any hope of a balanced dialog is gone?
I’m surprised he’s even bothered to ask.
Why should he care?
He’s convinced republican and conservative voters would never vote for the “O” candidate under any circumstance. Those staying home on election day, are gifting “O” an advantage.
McCain’s also convinced he can gain votes from the Hillary camp, not to mention some ‘uncommitted’ voters by chosing a pro-choice VP.
And Obama isn’t? That is part of the mix this time. Obama IS bad for the country. No way around it.
Let’s also not give too much power to the Executive Branch shall we?
We need to work to have conservative legislatures elected as well as keep Obama out of office. Its BOTH that need to be done. Then we can have a chance at judges who don’t legislate from the bench as well.
He hasn’t even shored up the Republican base yet he continues to branch out to pull in various other groups. There really isn’t anything for me to get upset about here. I knew the other shoe was going to drop and it didn’t take long. I still think his performance was laudable… giving credit where credit is due.
It’s obvious he knows that this is a sticking point for many conservatives… and I only have one piece of advice – choose carefully.
Mc Cain is 72. There is a good chance the VP candidate becomes president.
You can be sick of it all you want but none-the-less this is the case for this election. Sitting it out simply gives Obama an edge. Simply the facts. Does not mean you have to like it or that it feels good in any way. It is what it is. IF you sit it out and you could be a person that could vote for McCain and Obama wins, that is doing what?
I really hope you think that through and realize that keeping Obama out of the White House is a very worthwhile cause.
Why is he asking? He doesn’t give a hoot what the Republican Base thinks. After the Republicans got spanked in 2006, he SAID he heard and learned his lesson, then he goes and panders to La Raza.
He doesn’t care what we think about killing babies, he’s gonna do what he wants.
Obama has trumpeted the fact that he wants to write Roe v Wade into law and get rid of any restrictions on abortion, including bans on late-term abortions and parental notification, such as it is. He has stated clearly that he’s got a litmus test for any Supreme Court nominee: judicial activism required. And there won’t be enough votes in the Senate to block confirmation, even if we could scrounge up enough RINOs with enough spine to try it. Off-shore drilling under Obama? Not likely. Energy future: better buy that sweater you’ve been looking at. Would McCain be better? Only marginally, but maybe worth the shame of casting the vote, even if you have to take a shower afterward.
I think I said it somewhere before. McCain’s responses in the civil forum were very good. The only problem is I don’t believe he believes most of what he said.
I fully expect McCain to pick up the biggest stick he can find and poke it directly in the eye of every conservative he can find by selecting the most liberal VP candidate he thinks he can get away with.
Does anyone really think McCain hasn’t alienated the 515 Christians in Florida who elected Bush in 2000? Frankly, the majority of the conservative people I correspond with will vote for McCain. We just can’t stomach his “socialist-lite” beliefs.
Expect McCain/Lieberman or McCain/Ridge sometime next week.
If you start saying “President Obama” now you may be able to say it by January without throwing up in your mouth.
Everytime I get close to supporting him, he shows just how unsatisfactory a candidate he is. I would like to thank everyone who voted for this guy in the primaries. Thank you so much.
giving obama the presidency, just like carter v ford. as I said, I actually think mccain will be worse, because, just like bush and prescription drugs, mccain will be able to pass more socialist measures than obama will.
The new way to spell MAVERICK is LIBERAL or is it the other way around, and that is what McCain is and has always been.
So, you are saying the only reason to vote for Mc Cain is that he is not Obama?
This is a simple one for me. I will NOT vote for a Pro-abortion candidate for any office. If Ridge is on the ticket, I will not vote for McCain.
Some things can’t be compromised.
Well, for me, I really don’t care about this issue and it will certainly not sway me to vote for him. The only way he will sway me is to choose a staunch opponent to amnesty and “comprehensive immigration reform”. But, h*ll will freeze over before mcamensty gives up his La Raza buddies. Like otheres here, no more L.O.T.E. for me.
For those of you who don’t intend to vote at all for POTUS, please consider voting for a true 3rd party conservative. I am voting for Pastor Chuck Baldwin of the Contsitution Party. A REAL conservative. If for some reason he can’t get on the ballot (due to the oligarchy 2 party system stanglehold on US elections), I will vote for Bob Barr of the Libertarian Party. Although not perfect, and I certainly don’t care much for many of the Libertarian policies, he is far more preferable than mccain. Not voting at all, is a sure waste of a vote. At least show your disapproval of the new GOP moderate platform by voting for a condidate more conservative than the one running on the GOP ticket. At least they will be able to see the votes they lost by chasing centrist policies and pandering to the illegal invasion proponents. Just my 2 cents.
My thoughts exactly. Well said.
I am a pro-life conservative. I’d vote for McCain in a minute even if he chose a pro-choice VP. Any conservative that would consider staying home and not voting for McCain as some form of protest is doing a far greater disservice to the cause by handing the election to Obama. Four or eight years of Obama could harm this country for decades (think Supreme Court). A pro-choice VP is clearly the lesser of two evils.
This is what blows my mind about the abortion issue, generally. It cannot logically be anything BUT black/white. IF life begins at conception, as Mac says he is convinced it does, then what part of the pro-abortion ideology does he not understand? If conception is the beginning of human life, then, killing it would be murder. Not “sort of” murder. MURDER. Unless we want to rewrite how/what constitutes the crime outside the womb as well. Having a pro-choice VP, given his solid statements at Saddleback concerning pro life issues and an administration, seems like either intellectual dishonesty, intellectual flabbiness or plain, outright pandering.
And, yeah, I am so tired of the “the alternative is worse” crowd. NO KIDDING. But, are we violating our conscience in the process? That is neither right nor safe.
Dude just doesn’t get it, does he? I’m not sure why he thinks he’s got to do MORE to appeal to so-called moderate Dems and independents…he IS one, after all, so why choose a VP that is of a similar vein?
The pro-life issue is incredibly important to many of us, including myself…it isn’t something that can be negotiated over or somehow balanced out.
What is truly striking about all this is McCAIN’s arrogance. We talk a lot about Obama’s elitism…what about McCain? Here’s a man who thinks conservatives and GOPers ought to, and will, just fall in line right behind him regardless of what he says or does. Sorry, but it doesn’t work that way, and it won’t with this “likely and registered” voter…
McCain seems determined to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. After his best month jumping on energy and the Ruskies, along with a LOT of gaffes by BO, the race is a dead heat. Then he stomps Obama at Saddleback and his next course of action is to float pro-choice Veep rumor balloons to deflate his momentum. Obama will push moderates to McCain with his liberal socialist policies. McCain needs to not p*ss off the conservative base.
A pro-choice candidate would be a disaster. Christians know: “Bad company corrupts good morals.”
Yep, still voting “None of the Above.” I can’t find much fault in the this article concerning whether or not McCain is better or worse than Obama.
Yup he’ll screw us again and he will continue to screw us as long as he is able
I gave up my RNC membership yesterday because of McCain
I will point out, the Nixon election was very close, AND Nixon was an LOTE candidate.
After Nixon had proved faithless on Conservatisn, (price controls, etc…), and he had resigned, Ford was the candidate.
Ford was the candidate because the blue-bloods didn’t think a Conservative could win, and it was Ford’s turn.
Plain as unflavored yogurt, it was thought Ford would offend no one, while the Conservatives that were Rs had no where to go.
They sat out. It might have been the notion that after the nightmare of Nixon, Conservatives thought: “The blue-bloods engineered Nixon, look how that turned out”. I knew many Conservatives at the time who expressed that type of thinking.
That’s what gave us Smiley.
Taking the last week, McCain’s “TV Conservative Lurch” in conjunction with this push for a Liberal VP, I believe McCain heard the rumbling and set out to molify those daft Conservatives. Now he’s trying to find a way to get a VP compatible with his worldview w/o re-upsetting the base.
I agree with Mrs Malkin. Until McCarbonTax shows some consistancy, I won’t believe him. I candidate can say anything. What they work to accomplish tells who they are and how they will govern. So far, McCain has proved faithless.
As Uncle Lazarus says: Talk is cheap; whiskey costs money.
If McCain is elected president, I fully expect he’ll “reach across the isle” in a frenzy of bipartisen Love, and so the New and Improved Fairness Doctrine will become law.
Oh who cares! Abortion is such a non issue. It’s legal! MOVE ON! I’m sick of this pro choice/ pro life BS getting in the way of real issues every 4 years. Talk about beating a dead horse.
You and several million of us.
jsmiddleton4, On many, many fronts, McCain is as bad for the country as Obama is. I, along with many others, am tired of being guilted into the lesser-of-two evils vote and plan to vote third party this year. I will not lose my vote based on the scare tactic that I might be giving Obama the election. I may very well be, but I’ll keep my dignity in the process.
Obama vs. McCain
About half the country cares. Non-issue? Think again, esse.
If McCain would stand strong on abortion and close the boarders, he would have 50 million base voters on board. What the hell is he thinking.
So was slavery. Didn’t make it right. I am glad America didn’t MOVE ON then either.
BTW, to see something about the new Fairness Doctrine, see:
at Business and Media DOT org
If McCain chooses Ridge, I’ll sit out. I sat out before and I’m certain a number of friends at church will be sidelined as well.
McCan’t's strategy is to entice Centrists and Liberals to vote for him. This gives him in effect two votes. One for him, and one that won’t go to Nobama. If he went after Conservatives, he would only get one vote as a Conservative will not vote for Nobama no matter what. He feels he really doesn’t need us.
Of course he will! Personally, I don’t think the idea of a pro-choice veep is a deal-breaker in as much as it’s a slap in the face to conservatives, a base he needs to excite.
Honestly, I think Sarah Palin would be his best choice. If his opponent were anyone other than Obama, they could cry inexperience, but they can’t.
Strange choice of words, since we’re talking about dead babies. Maybe you don’t think the life of a baby is worth fighting for, but all I need to do is look and my two children to know that, indeed, they are worth the fight.
Do you REALLY want to go down this road again? We all know you’re a McCain cheerleader, and you’ve got enough points now to get the picture frame with hearts all over it that say “Me and McCain 4-Eva!”…
But the last time you went this route, you lost. Poorly. You have no position to defend against. Dont make me textually squish you again.
Now go back and claim your points for the day, unless you’re ready to pick up where we left off.
As much as I hate voting for McCain, not voting at all is in many ways a vote for Obama. Do I like McCain? No. But the time to make stands is during primary season, not now when it could curse the country with the most frightening president ever.
Of course he would screw conservatives. Why should today be any different?!!
I cant agree with you on this one…fourstring has it right. There are alot of people, both republican and democrat, that find this is a keystone issue to them. Saying this isnt important in the race is trying to skirt an issue that’s too large to go around.
To be absolutely fair…from the “debate” the other day. I will give McCain credit where its due for his answer, not on abortion, but *adoption*.
If you’re not familiar, go look it up
An interesting contrast between them, with McCain really coming out on top. I dislike the man, but he did make an excellent point and really hammered his position home.
The problem with a pro-choice Veep is that a) he’ll be around beyond McCain’s 4 years in office and b) a pro-choice candidate is more likely than not to be middle of the road on most issues important to Conservatives. IMO moderates are people who don’t really believe in anything. Do we want that in a VP?
McCain, in the Saddleback forum, you said we should defeat evil, not negotiate with it.
I am holding you to your word. If you prove that you will defeat evil rather than negotiate with it (by picking a pro-life VP), then I will vote for you. If you choose to negotiate with evil, I will vote for someone else, for you would be just as weak as Obama.
And now, back to you McCain…
AND derkrieger, mccain could die of old age in office.
Abortion IMO isn’t by itself a critical issue for a POTUS because there is absolutely nothing the POTUS can do about it since legislation originates in the Congress and there is no way a majority in Congress will ever gather enough Conservatives to come up with a bill to outlaw abortion. So from that point of view the candidate’s view is irrelevant. However, it IS important as a gauge of the type of SCOTUS appointments the candidate will make. Roe v Wade was a bad decision whether you believe abortion ought to be legal or not. A strict constructionist judge would, appropriately, vote to overturn Roe and return the decision to the Congress where is properly belongs. Or to the states where it actually rightly belongs. So for me the abortion position is important as an indicator of the type of judges we can expect to be appointed. Can we trust a Ridge to appoint the right type of judges? No.
My vote for Mccain has never been a vote for him, but a vote against Obama or Clinton. Who he picks as VP doesn’t change that fact. I did call the campaign HQ to express my desire for a pro life VP, but in the end I will vote against Obama one way or the other. Between Ridge and Lieberman, I would really rather see Lieberman on the ticket. It seems to me that Lieberman is able to stand on his own two feet and is concerned about our contry’s sovereignty and security. The way McCain seems to operates, that probably guarentees that we get Ridge.
Either way, I am still voting against Obama or Clinton.
Heh, awesome, PRECISELY the first four words into my mind.
So because it isn’t an issue to YOU it shouldn’t be an issue to anyone else? Where’d you learn to think, pup?
I don’t believe he’ll run for reelection if he makes it through the first four years so his VP will likely stand against Clinton. So the choice is especially critical this year.
Reaction?
How could a man who endured 5 years in a POW camp be so spineless in politics?
He should be aware of the fact that if Guiliani won the GOP nod… a LOT of the republican base would not vote for him. Now.. he’s stepping into that swamp.. and for what? To pick up some liberal votes? Is he out of his mind? A pro-abortion VP will buy him ZIP.. and cost him a lot. He needs to make abortion a non-issue in this election. It’s not going to help him. It will only hurt him.
I can see this point. The VP does not make policy, does not sign legislation and does not nominate SCOTUS justices. But then I can also see the concern that, whomever he picks for VP will be around past McCain’s presidency and may BE the next POTUS.
It’s a tough one.
No, McCain feels he doesn’t need to court you.
hy in the name f sam hll, would anyone vote FOR this man?
I’m clueless as to WHY?
Jersey Politics is the only answer.
At The Saddle back Summit, was any of this discused???
What I have not heard discussed are the topics of importance to me domestically. Did any of the following come up?
Borders
Language
Culture
Sovereignty
Sanctuary Cities
Sanctuary States
The Rule of Law
The Constitution
Energy
NAFTA
CAFTA
SPP
Mexican Trucks
Mesh Fencing
Single Layered Fencing
MS-13
Alien Crime
Multiculturalism
Bi-Lingual Education
Did any questions Pertaining to these issues come up? If not, why not? Is this pastor, who is a Global Warming believer, and an Aids activist, just another liberal pastor?
I fear for the survival of this once great Republic under either of these unqualified candidates.
I think Tom Ridge has had a lock on being McCain’s VP for a while now.
I hope I’m wrong.
Every time I hear Bibby Jindal speak I want him as VP, actually as President, but VP will do.
The ninth President William Henry Harrison died a month after his inauguration of pneumonia and has the shortest presidency, a total of 31 days.
VP pick matters.
The man hits a homerun, but won’t run the bases (at least not yet). Delay of game?
It’s beyond reason for anyone to think that the liberal platform is anything but smoke and mirrors. If anything, it’s deceit in action.
It was ugly. I have to admit.
Been wondering that for a decade. It boggles the mind.
Yes.
stevevvs
Thank you. I consider myself a middle of the road conservative. There must be a longer list for those further to the right.
If it isn’t him it will be someone else playing the cheerleader/LOTE-monkey. So I look forward to some Abstract smash-dunk action today
As a life long Republican who is about as conservative as they get, I still say that the abortion issue, though a serious one, is not reason enough to allow someone like Obama to become our president. Not voting, or voting for someone you know can’t win is simply cutting off your noses to spite your face. We need to work towards getting the government out of this issue completely. The governmnent has no more business meddling in people’s private lives than the man in the moon and asking those of us who don’t support abortion by demand to fund it is an insult. That said, government has long since lost sight of its purpose and has become so mired in social and ethical meddling that is is fast becoming incapable of fulfilling it’s original mission. I wish with all my heart that the Republicans had been able to field better candidates but I will vote for McCain because an Obama presidency will destroy us.
I received one of those national research calls on Sun night. They started out asking about my reaction to various people including Tom Ridge, McCain, Charlie Crist, Mitt Rommney and Obama. Then they started asking about my reaction to various possible VP picks for McCain. The three they asked about were Joe Lieberman, Mitt and Charlie Crist. Most of what they asked sounded like a democrat hit job, so I messed with their numbers by making the woman write in responses such as I don’t believe your premise and will do my own research. However, it was interesting to see who was on their list.
Derkreiger,
I can see where that’s important. Directly, its not for the POTUS to formulate the policy, but because he is the one who chooses judges, signs things into law, etc…it still makes it important in some fashion.
Very true. I’m not trying to be a snot, but i’d rather discuss the issues (such as the illegal immigration one i posted before in our previous encounter, which NEVER got answered BTW)…than have to constantly bat away the same broken record rhetoric over and over and over and over and over…….
Like the USA did to the German basketball team? Man, that was brutal
ACTIONS speak louder than WORDS..
J.Mc’s ACTIONS have been to reach to socialist liberals…
SO WHAT’s new with this ACTION of going for a PRO_D E A T H running mate………
Go VOTE just don’t pull for the L O T E _________
This is dead on, and why his veep choice matters so much. I’m sure that McCain doesn’t really think he’s gonna die, but he’s foolish if he thinks no one else has noticed his age.
I adore Bobby Jindal (have voted for him twice), and must say that I’m glad that he has declined the veep spot because Louisiana still desperately needs him. Once he’s done here, he’s gonna make one hell of a POTUS.
NO a pro choice vp won’t work, why? McCain’s age, the whole reason his vp pick is important is to offset his age. Whether you like him or not Romney could bring in at least two states. Cheney brought in Wyoming. I mean Romney can bring in Michigan and Utah. He will pick off the Mormon vote in States across the country, there are a lot of Mormons. Romney also isn’t humorless and he is pro life. Pennsylvania isn’t going to go automatic for Obama. Hillary proved that.
McCain doesn’t need to water down his pro life message after he did such a great job of defending it at saddleback.
Either he has convictions or he doesn’t if he picks pro choice a vp, there goes the notion, he has convictions.
Statistics say you’re wrong. They also say your are losing more supporters every year.
Oct 2007 Harris poll, Favor or oppose R.V.W.
56 percent of respondents indicated favor while 40 percent indicated opposition
I’m a lot more concerned with Health Insurance, Illegals, The price of Gas, and Taxes, than a moral issue that was decided 35 years ago.
Yes, it’s just my opinion. But I’m a lot more concerned that I can’t afford health insurance for my family, than I am about some women I don’t know going to hell for her sins.
Yeah that was quite the stomping by team USA. They are not the same team that was in Athens four years ago, the only real carry over was James who was being mocked as LaBronze James since they got spanked and settled for the bronze medal. They certainly don’t look like they are going to repeat that error this time around and are much more humble about it too and not being a bunch of cocky punks they were in Athens. Should be an all around spanking all the way to gold, kind of like I expect May and Walsh to do in volleyball since they have won in straight sets the whole way up and look unbeatable.
POTUS, SCOTUS, what the hell are you guys talking about?
In my opinion we are facing a national crisis with Obama on the ballot.
The fact so many of my fellow Americans think this community organizer, pretend law professor, junior senator is qualified scares the hell out of me.
Conservative purists need to set aside their grievances for a few months and get McCain elected.
The alternative is not acceptable.
POTUS — President of the United States
SCOTUS — Supreme Court of the United States
Lilycat #76
I share your position on this matter exactly.
That’s your prerogative, but if your foolish enough to believe that it still isn’t a huge issue to millions of voters then you are insane. Most everyone I know who is debating whether to hold their nose and vote for McCain has told me that if he gets stuck on stupid and picks a pro-abortion VP that he will lose their vote to a third party. How many millions of potential votes is he willing to lose over an issue he himself declares to be pro-life on?
Lilycat
This is about core values. I’m talking about the governments need to determine what life of a human is. This is not a religious view, but a fundamental legal question of governments power of life and death. Witness countries through history that have ignored this value. Germany, Cambodia, Russia etc,etc,etc. It is crucial we determined when life begins and ends.
I have not had any real plan to vote this year. I just cannot quite get enough trust up to vote McCain and there
is simply no way I would vote for Barack Obama. Now that McCain has finally started to sound like somone I can trust, his deciding to nominate someone that once again I could not trust to be a conservate repuclican would torpedo any last chance that he would have of gaining my vote.
A few of the things that McCain has been doing lately to gain my trust:
1) His fervent insistence that a border fence and enforcement is a top priority, even though he would eventually want to put amnesty on the table.
2) His solid support of original intent justices for the supreme court.
3) His new found credentials in understanding supply side economics.
4) His statements of choice and compitition for school vouchers.
If John McCain picks a vice president that does not echo these and other conservative values, then I will conclude that for all his bluster of being a born again conservative is nothing but the same crap Barack Obama is dishing out saying he is a uniter. End of any chance I would waste my efforts to go to a polling booth and vote this year.
A few folks have given Auggie a hard time for this comment, but he’s right of course. Neither candidate can deliver anything that they promise, because they can’t pass a law. Neither can change abortion, taxes, health care or drilling. Only Congress and the Supreme Court can do those things. McCain, however, can appoint pro-life justices which is the only way to change abortion. However, Congress can override his choices.
Yea, it’s nice to know that one candidate is pro-life because that tells us something about his values. The real power in the government is Congress, but all the focus is on POTUS. Conservatives could help their cause much more by taking control of Congress.
Well, if MCCAINUS is the POTUS he will POOPUS on CONSERVATUS whenever he gets the chance, ’cause he’s the MAVRICUS, and will SCOOTUS over a righty to put a lefty on the SCOTUS…
Now, do you get it?!?
Auggie Doggy sez:
You are correct, it is JUST your opinion…so why slam others for having a different one?
Like I told that Idle Vice chick in the last thread that ran long, I don’t care about that woman either, but I do care about her unborn, never to be born baby. And I am wrong for that? I should quit yammering on about it because it is a non-issue to you?
Problem is most conservatives will do exactly that and the party will continue it’s march to the left sanctioned by conservatives. Lesser of two evils??? No thanks, a left of center Republican will never get my vote again.
HA! Brilliant!
I have been battling this in my mind since this thread was posted. My question is this, are those of you who say I have to vote for McCain saying that my faith ( my Catholicism) must be put aside and I am to live with it? I mean no argument, but this is my main soul searching problem. I’d have to argue with extreme prejudice with anyone who questions my love of country and my concern for it’s Conservative and Judeo Christian Western based ideals and future.
Lilycat said:
Nope, the government should be against murder. I shouldn’t have the right to hire a hitman to take out my children, parents, coworkers, etc.
I truly wish I didn’t have to keep asking this, but does McCain really want my vote?
It seems that just after he does something that tells me that he wants me to vote for him, he slaps me across the face as he “reaches across the aisle”.
sigh
Well put.