Is McCain going to screw conservatives (again)?; RNC says message received?
Scroll down for updates…3:42pm Eastern… Message received? Fox: “Several sources at the RNC told FOX News that in the last 36 hours, senior McCain advisers and aides have told RNC officials that McCain ‘got the message’ last week that choosing a running mate who supports abortion rights would not be helpful.” Don’t exhale yet.
Wouldn’t put it past him. Would you? Which is why, despite all the encomiums he’s received from his Saddleback appearance, I haven’t joined the ga-ga bandwagon (and won’t).
Rich Lowry reports:
NR has learned that the McCain campaign has been calling key state GOP officials around the country the last couple of days and sounding them out about the consequences of a pro-choice VP pick. The campaign is asking about the reaction of conservative grass-roots activists to such a pick and whether a pro-choicer can be sold to them. This is an indication that the McCain campaign is serious about the possibility of a pro-choice VP nominee and that McCain leaving the door open to Tom Ridge last week may not have been merely a friendly nod to a longtime supporter.
Sound off. Guess they didn’t hear you loud enough the first go around.
Hat tip: Big A.
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Update: David Limbaugh calls it…
McCain must quit echoing the Democratic talking point that places form over substance and the illusion of bipartisanship above principle. Who says Americans “want us to work together” if that means abandoning legal protection for the innocent unborn or other inviolable principles?
Update: McRudy?!?!?!
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I’m sure MM will find a way to spin this and make McCain look like s***.
MDS.
zeroangel,
I would say that atheists in general have a warped understanding of the first amendment, and are trying to use it to take away the very rights it was intended to protect.
I would say that whether they realize it or not, they are domestic enemies of the Constitution of the United States.
Would you call such a person a “patriot”?
abstract #285:
Slam dunk, indeed.
BTW, she is no doctor. She is a med student – more like Josef Mengele School of Medicine.
Thanks b-cat!
I agree with that, it seems fair. it doesnt discriminate against anyone, and people are free to assemble as they choose.
Can the school officials pray as well? Or do they not have First Amendment Rights?
It is a wonder how so many who will tag others with the Nazi label are so into “population control” and Darwinism. They have no real understanding of the socialist poison they are importing from the Europe that they admire.
This is an unfortunate case of lumping all atheists in with the most vocal (and often annoying) of the lot.
What exactly is wrong with a “moment of silence” in schools?
What would you say to atheist parents that might say they do not want thier child led in a prayer in school (by thier teachers)? For that matter, how do we determine which prayer to use and from what religion?
fair enough
So, why doesn’t he exist in the current field? Could it be because the Republican party has lost its focus? Certainly, but why? Perhaps they’ve lost their focus because they’ve come to the realization that no matter what kind of candidate the Republican party puts forth (i.e. Nixon, Ford, Bush 1, Bush 2, McCain, etc.) that conservatives will vote for him, if only out of fear that the Democrats may win. Because the Republican Party knows conservatives will never back a Democrat, they know they must appeal more so to the moderates, those who care not to pay attention to politics and would rather watch American Idol than read a book. So, in an effort to fix the party, to force the Republicans to pick a principled candidate versus a politically expedient candidate.
Also, this is why we need a preferential voting system vice the one we have. If we could have rank-ordered the candidates, I’m sure we would have come up with someone other than McCain. Conservatives, the party’s base, were split over many different candidates, which allowed McCain to appear ahead despite the fact that most would rather stab themselves in the eye with a pencil instead of voting for him.
Going by what RedPill cited – the take of Truman and America’s founders – I don’t think you can read that into it, ZA.
It would be fair to say atheists are outside of the American tradition, but patriotism is decided by one’s attitude/actions towards one’s country.
Benedict Arnold may have been a faithful believer in some deity or other, but he turned against his nation. I suspect there were a few folks in his day who wanted nothing to do with God but who, in contrast, gave their lives for their country.
atheling:
School officials CAN pray (on thier own), they just can’t tell the students to join them.
You’re right. It is sad. McCain was never my pick and even now I have many issues with him. I was (and still am) seriously concerned that his broad tent philosophy would crash down on all of us on a variety of issues and that he’d make unpalatable compromises in the name of “working together”.
So I’m at the point where I rejoice whenever and whenever we Conservatives get any kind of victory.
For what it’s worth, I still say he should pick Gov. Sarah Palin.
redpill……you know, the separation of church and state is important for many reasons not the least of which without it we could end up in a country that was run by the taliban or another version of it.
you absolutely cannot infuse religion [which one by the way?] into government.it’s a toxic mix. do not confuse religion with morality. morality does need to be in government at all times.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
purplepeep:
I wasn’t reading into anything, I was asking his personal opinion.
atheling:
Please quote anywhere on this forum I ever advocated taking away people’s right to worship by force of law.
agreed.
I would be dishonest to not say that adding Palin would seriously make McCain more attractive as a candidate in total. She really has shown that she believes in conservative values, and really would be a good addition.
and, well…she’s easy on the eyes
Read what I excerpted from your comment again.
Hot Air is talking about McCain considering former eBay CEO Meg Whitman. She is pro-choice, I believe.
All this guessing can drive one nuts.
well, i’m out for the day. later folks!
atheling:
Ahh so, am I annoying you or do you consider me too vocal when I point out the bigotry directed toward atheists on this forum?
Send_Me@304
Perhaps we would, but there wasn’t even one other person running on the GOP ticket that could have beaten Obama. Not.Even.One.
McCain is Obama’s kryptonite [sp?]…and I think Obama is the most dangerous presidential candidate we have had in modern history. By far.….
And for what it’s worth I think McCain should choose Sarah Palin as VP too….
I would say you are spot on, RedPill. “Amendment 1″ has become so twisted, especially by the airhead leftist media, that few people understand it anymore. The idea is protect religion , not stop. It prevents Congress from establishing a state religion or denomination, e.g. “The Church Of England”.
School boards deciding they want to start the school day with prayer – a practice going back even before the nation’s inception – doesn’t involve Congress. In fact, had the founders wanted to – much less intended to – stop schools from starting the day in prayer it would have happened over 200 years ago.
I hope the people in the RNC never forget Michelle Malkin’s constant, half-cocked, unfaiir and hysterical attempts to sink the republican candidate in the face of a smooth talking socialist like Obama.
Enjoy the attention now…
Ah, I see, ZA. It just seemed extremely obvious to me the two were not mutually exclusive.
purplepeep:
Then I direct the same question I asked RedPill to you:
What would you say to atheist parents that argue a teacher in a public school is an authority figure and a government representitive; by virtue of this, they do not want such an official to coerce or force thier child to pray.
What is wrong with a “moment of silence?”
One of countless snotty snarky “Oh I’m Sooooo Superiour to the Stupids!” statements knocking our hostess.
Gee how Liberal of you!
You really dislike Michelle Malkin, don’t you.
I bet when you’re in other people’s homes you pee in the potted plants…
Man, you need to be hit over the head with an obvious stick, don’t you?
You’re a hypocrite. You whine about being “lumped” with other asshole atheists when you do the same with Christians in other threads on this forum. You did so with me.
Grow up.
Write the Campaign @ info@johnmccain.com
I told them what I though. You should too!
For the record.. No Pro life VP Pick? I write in Michelle Malkin.. I’m tried of having my formerly Conservative party watered down to someone else’s taste.
You know, I’m just as disappointed that McCain won the nomination as everyone else here, including MM.
However, I do believe that she has gone off the deep end with this. She posts every thing she can find to discredit him, and if he says or does something worthy or good, she somehow twists it to make it the opposite. I had suspected this for a while, but when I saw that she completely ignored the news that McCain was considering Eric Cantor, who is a true hard core conservative, that tells me there is unfair bias, or even MDS.
Bill – after this election, if there is an RNC, they might be even more irrelevant than they are now. The fact is they’ll be sacked if they produce a losing candidate – it won’t matter what they think. Not that it does now – most folks just don’t worry about hurting the feelings of the elite.
Sanger, is that you?
So was slavery. Didn’t make it right.
We hear that a lot from McCain and Obama followers. Do you guys share notes, or is that just coincidence?
Don’t stop now! Let’s kill the retarded people, the old people, and the disabled people, too! They’re unwanted, and such a burden.
That right ends with their body. They do NOT have the right to end another life for the sake of convenience, economics, or any reason you can imagine.
Why do you defend the right of grown men and women to murder infants? Seems like murder would be the epitome of anti-choice, since you’re taking away the right for the victim to choose.
Let’s think about it: pro-death/anti-life proponents don’t like children, pure and simple. You’ll think of any excuse for the mother to kill the baby.
Were you a mistake? I honestly hope your mother never looked at you and send, “If only I could have sucked your tiny brain out with a vacuum and puréed your lifeless body. I would be so much happier today.”
And who pays for the “quick operation?” Right, taxpayers. Same for the abortion drugs.
I’ve never heard of anyone like you, so eager to do away with babies. Even Rusty at his worst has never said anything like that. Nice anti-Christian smear, by the way. I knew you just had to get that in, huh? Just couldn’t resist a little hatred.
atheling:
All I have ever done is point out bigotry directed at atheists. I have consistently tried very hard to remain polite and civil. I can not help it if you find my reasons for being an atheist offensive. I generally find that an atheist can’t be honest without offending.
In any case, for the benefit of all here are several of my favorite atheling quotes:
Where do I “lump” all Christians together. Please quote for me anywhere I made an all-encompassing statement about Christians. My wife is Christian for goodness sake.
I “lump” bigots together, by virtue of how they act / behave.
fourstringfuror:
HOME RUN!!!
Imagine if the RNC backed Duncan Hunter the way it did Romney, Giuliani, and McCain. If only other Republican leaders actually led by saying, “Hey folks, check this guy, Duncan Hunter, out. He’s the real deal.” But hey, that would require leadership from a politician. That’s like finding virtue among rakes.
Those being? We can rehash the old arguement here, or we can just reference the old thread. Heck, I’m sure if I did some digging I could find some of your other bigoted views toward people that don’t follow your particular religion.
I think you’d have a tough time forcing a kid to pray, ZA. It’s a funny mental image.
Though it would be an excellent few moments for contrarian kids to observe silence. Those not into it just don’t take part in it.
(Actually all kids should keep their traps shut unless they’re responding to a teacher!)
Just calling them like I see them. He/she made it easy.
purplepeep:
Yes, it’s true, you might have a hard time forcing a child to do anything. But, do you see my point? Why should atheist parents have any one religion espoused in thier schools?
If it were the case the a particular school district was 3/4 Christian and 1/4 Hindu, what prayer should be used? Should they separate the children? Or is it just better to give everyone the “moment of silence” to select thier own method of talking to whichever God they want?
A “moment of silence” seems the best way IMHO.
On August 19th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, purplepeep said:
Purple- they will be if they LOSE because there were still so many idiots who couldn’t see that they were voting with their stirred up emotions rather then using the developed part of their brains.
Who will be sacked? The primary voters who elected McCain to run for president?
Do you really think the republican party will be/should be recreated in this little “lord of the flies” meets sorority house microcosm? Count me out.
Most folks should worry about the repercussions of their more or less constant trashing of the only person in a position to stop a hard core socialist, appeasing, leftist. Most folks should get a handle on their MDS and use heir brain. Most folks should have learned by now that you lose opportunities by constantly letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Most folks should understand that the country is at steak and that an Obama presidency would be an unmitigated disaster that will predominantly ALTER this country in a way that is anything but conservative.
Is it too much to ask for someone who is for border security and immigration enforcement too?
One step at a time. You know you have ZERO chance if Obama is elected. We have a fighting chance if McCain is elected. We’ll have to fight hard, but our chances of winning on this issue is better with a McCain presidency than with an Obama one.
The last time McCain told us he received the message was IRT amnesty. You know, when a massive number of American citizens made it clear that we don’t like the idea of having our sovereignty undermined and system overtaxed. So, what did he do after “receiving the message”? He took on Juan Hernandez and started pandering even harder to the open borders crowd.
To those that say we should vote for McCain vice voting our conscience with a no-vote for POTUS (or a write in), what makes you think anything he says can be trusted? As far as I can see, McCain isn’t too much better for this country than Socialist Obama.
Remember Bill Grant, many of those voters were Democrats crossing over to mess up the election. Just saying.
“The fact is they’ll be sacked if they produce a losing candidate – it won’t matter what they think.”
I was addressing the group you brought up hoping they “remember” (the RNC), Bill. It’s obvious that should McCain lose, they’ll be history. They can have memories longer than elephants to exchange reminisces of party “mavericks” with the Dukakis people whilst rocking on the porch. Machts nicht.
Yes, and those who are abstaining or voting 3rd party are playing right into their hands.
PBoilermaker #340, what was that bill that the American People forced down? Kennedy and I’m drawing a blank.
Atheling, they may be true, so McAmnesty will have his work cut out for him to “act” like a conservative. He should pull a Bush and “act” Conservative while running and switch AFTER he gets elected. Or Take a page from Arnold, he did the same thing.
Exactly.
Wow – look at this, turns out McCain is also a gambler: “Over time he (McCain) gave up the drinking bouts, but he never quite kicked the periodic yen for dice. In the past decade, he has played on Mississippi riverboats, on Indian land, in Caribbean craps pits and along the length of the Las Vegas Strip.
What kind of Christian could support this man?
Ilovemycountry:
Though I do not know it for certain, but I am inclined to believe that you think all Republicans are devout Christians and vice-versa. It’s simply not true.
McCain’s personal gambling isn’t the issue. They way in which he is attempting to destroy the Conservative voice in this country is.
Shut up and quit spamming, you fool.
What McAmensty will bring to the rest of the nation.
If he doesn’t realize that there is a war going on here, then he doesn’t deserve to serve.
send_me @332…….
Duncan Hunter…yes, I liked him a lot too. But, I still have to point out that ,sadly, the vast number of Americans right now want new and shiny. And they are sooo afraid of being even remotely perceived as a racist [Obama is banking on it]that no one in the race but McCain could have beaten Obama. And beat him he will.
Politics this year are more like a game of paper/rock/scissors than anything else….and a war hero trumps all.
We are at war after all….
And Obama does?
Bill Grant….very well said @337..
And I loved this line:
great visual…..heh heh heh
My country right or wrong, may she always be right, but my country. McCain and O’Bama . You have an avowed opponent.
No he doesn’t Atheling, but he’s a liberal and it’s expected of him, not a “conservative” or Republican. McAmnesty has Juan Hernandez on his campaign. You know, “Mexico FIrst”.
I find it amazing that people will blame those of us who ACTUALLY vote our conscience, for potentially making McCain lose the election, when the real problem is that he is trampling on some of the most important reasons why Conservatives vote for a given candidate.
What I guess we need to start realizing is just like their are Rhino Conservative candidates, there are also Rhino voters..
As far as all this atheism talk. You are confused about where your values come from, & that’s fine. Everyone has to find their way, & you may think you’ve arrived at the pinnacle of wisdom, but You’re probably going to find out you’re wrong. It does also however leave you with a credibility problem when debating things like abortion for instance. You end up stating yourself as the final authority in every debate, yet you are dust in the wind just like the rest of us. No more capable of proving whether your position is right or wrong than anyone else is.
So what I’m saying is, don’t throw that BS at Christians, because it takes as much faith to believe in man & his arrogant reliance on man made science, as it does to believe in God, & perhaps more faith to believe in mankind’s flawed wisdom.
Like it or not, we will vote our Conscience! If that means losing, well then so be it. Those of us with faith in our creator know the end of the story. & when the final chapter is written, we will be on the RIGHT side of the fence, with those who stood for what is right, not what was convenient at the moment.
As for anyone who thought baby killing was ok, & caved into those who advocate it, may God help you if you don’t have a change of heart. As for me, I will be one who votes with a clean conscience, against an enemy. Whether that enemy happens to have a GOP pin attached to his sheepskin jacket or not, I can see his wolf’s fur sticking out at the sleeves & around his neckline. I’m not voting for him just because he talks a good talk, & then all the while he turns into a werewolf when nobody’s looking. Maybe some of you blindly following McCain supporters would do well to have a little closer gander.. Every time you move your standards back to accommodate another loser, you leave yourself & the rest of us little space to stand our ground, & pretty soon we have nowhere left to stand for anything.
I’m not going to be a part of that, & no true Conservative should either.
I personally find immigration a bigger issue presently. Ending abortions will seem a little ironic if the would-be ‘victims’ are born into a destroyed America.
“pyrrhic victory” is what I was thinking in my previous comment (#358), not ironic.
Well Put Dan Lee #357
Ilovemycountry@347…
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You cannot be serious,can you?
We are voting for a president not a bishop or pastor. Good grief.
And what kind of Christian? How about a Catholic? Let me guess [and I hope I'm wrong] the original Christians aren’t really Christians according to you, right? Aren’t the same churches that frown on gambling the same ones that frown on dancing and having any sort of fun too?
See why the separation of church and state is so important? Whose church would we go by? Yours doesn’t sound like it’s much fun……
But the RNC didn’t decide who the candidate is. Republicans did. See? The time for all of this was SIX MONTHS AGO. Most reasonable people have understood that we need to circle the wagons to keep Obama out.
Purple.
So in other words, you want McCain to lose to get rid of the members of the RNC who did’t elect McCain to be the candidate. Smart…
And you will have memories of what a great country this used to be before the government took control of formally private industries and did the fantastic job government usually does with them. You can pat yourself on the back for defeating shamnasty™ while electing outright open borders and you can celebrate how you got rid of the RNC while entrenching Pelosi, Reid, Howard Dean, Move on.org, George Soros, et.al…
If you don’t think there is a huge difference between McCain and Obama there is seriously something wrong with you.
ZA, to coin a new catch-phrase: life isn’t fair. We are all exposed everyday to something or another we don’t agree with or like.
Parents should be allowed to have their children attend the school of their own choosing. That’s the argument for vouchers, home-schooling and such mattrs, if you’re going to have a public-financed school system.
I’d toss out the “moment of silence” altogether because it makes no sense (why silence? for what reason?) and people get worked up even over the “moment of silence” idea. Just allow non-believers not to join in and not to interrupt. Just as “Jehovah’s Witnesses” and some other groups don’t do the pledge of allegiance. They’re just observers.
But my thinking is if folks really want to make sure kids aren’t made to feel uncomfortable in school, they’d have algebra taken out. Bowing your head or being quiet for 30 seconds is nothing compared to dealing with binomial coefficients in Pascal’s Triangle.
On August 19th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, John Ansell said:
Firstly that is nonsense. Secondly YOU HAVE 1 of 2 choices of viable candidates; GINGRICH IS NOT RUNNING AND HE ENDORSED MCCAIN.
Bill He supports McCain but not endorsed.
Dan Lee@357…
“Like it or not, we will vote our Conscience! If that means losing, well then so be it. Those of us with faith in our creator know the end of the story. & when the final chapter is written, we will be on the RIGHT side of the fence, with those who stood for what is right, not what was convenient at the moment.”
God is the one that gave you the brain He did and He did not expect you to sit on it or remain in the dark ages.
So you will be gloating as “Rome” burns…gee, that’s swell.As long as you are “right” and all that….
And you wonder why so many people have such a poor opinion of some of the “Christians” in this country.As my very devout friend said “if it weren’t for some Christians…everyone would be one”.
It seems that many people here are like the “truthers”…and just as scary.So you have no problem with us “losing” because it seems you have absolutely no frickin’ idea what that will entail.
Have you thought about our troops?
Have you considered that we are at war and Russia isn’t playing either?
Do you have any idea what the islamists will do to you when Obama throws open the gates?
Gee, as it turned out he wasn’t.
Because you do know that they hang on every threat that comes out of this blog. This was just another cynical post taking a shot at McCain because they are the ones that get a few hundred comments rather then 30 or 40. Good for business sooooo… who cares if it helps elect Obama…
Bill Grant, there are two very good reasons we need to push McAmnesty to drop his immigration politcy: They have names, Danielle Bologna and Jamiel Shaw Sr.. I want McAmensty to look Mrs. Bologna in the eye and say that he’s still supporting the murderer that took her husband and 2 sons.
Then I want him to explain too Jamiel Shaw Sr. why he’s againg Jamiel’s law. If he’s got the balls to do that, I’ll vote for the guy. Until then, I will fight the illegal invaders with my votes. A vote for McAmensty is a vote for the invaders. Hell, he is brazen about it. Juan Hernandez, the only lobbiest McCain has left on his campaign.
Bill Grant said:
“I was addressing the group you brought up hoping they “remember” (the RNC)”
Then you shouldn’t have cited them as the ones to be feared, Bill. On November 5th 2008 these boogeymen are just as likely to be sending out their resumes as they will be vengefully purging the party of “mavericks”.
But I agree with you in part, Bill. I hope whatever the next incarnation of the RNC, it will have a very good memory.
wow, sorry for the typos in that one.
WTF?
Is that you Bill Clinton? Did you ever find out the difference between “is” and “is” is?
Now there is the insults of insults. Being compared to Clinton? Sorry Bill Grant, didn’t know you were that angry at me.
Atheling & Grant, two sock puppets peeing in the potted plants again…
(…at least its no longer on the carpet… I should be grateful for whatever tiny favors they can spare for us, the ignorant masses…)
So there will be no repercussions for trashing the republican candidate so close to the election, right purple?
And that will be a good thing, huh. Better the RNC be in disarray then the DNC. Better to enthrone Pelosi, Reid, Howard Dean, Move on.org, George Soros, et.al… Better to lose the war, etc…
Gee, I think you are going to need a few more votes then the ones coming out of this echo chamber to actually win an election. It’s fun to call for “purges” from your tree house, isn’t it?
Why are so many Republicans insisting that the GOP has a candidate in this race? All I see are Democrats and democrats as far as the eye can see. How hard is it to vote 3rd party? It’s a secret ballot! Just do it!
Have you joined FAIR yet? No? Gee, that’s harder then trying to figure out how to shoehorn McShamnasty(TM) into a sentence 92 times… but it might actually provide some direction into having an effect on immigration policy.
That is genuinely stupid and offensive to state that McCain supports that. Even more so because it is being used as an EXCUSE for not ddoing anything about the problem but ranting here and an EXCUSE for allowing a full on open borders president to be elected.
If you want to do something about the border vote for McCain who can be persuaded and join FAIR who will help push him.
lol, yeah 76 days to mount a campaign for who? and one that will garner more than 10,000 votes.
Yep, Michelle and masses of other conservatives are just ‘cynical’ and McCain hasn’t given us any reason for that… (/sarc)
Why are so many obama supporters trying to get Republicans to waste our vote on some nobody? Interesting that they have chosen this blog to do it.
I personally know a half dozen families that had to travel halfway around the world and pay in the 5 figures to Communist governments (Russia, China, and Vietnam) in order to adopt a child.
Overturning Roe v. Wade and legally requiring women to let their children come to term (which is the “natural” thing to do) does not force those women into motherhood. Women who don’t want (or can’t afford) their child can put their child up for adoption.
Rather than “making our society pay for this unwanted baby” what would really happen is that adoptive parents would be willing to pay for the privilege of being blessed with a child. A very, very wanted child.
McAmnesty’s Education Plan. It’s a failure here and it will be a failure all across America. Secure the Border and deport the invaders.
Conservatives always look down their noses at Dems because Dems don’t care who they vote for as long as the person has the D by their name. Well, congratulations Rs, you’re no different than the Dems now. The Ds have slid further and further left because in their minds, it’s anyone but an R. So they have voted for left, socialism and now Marxist. And the Rs are moving consistantly left as well.
I asked the question several months ago, just how many conservative values are you willing to throw out… I now have my answer. Just the fact that McCain is willing to consider a pro-death VP tells me he is not really pro-life.
When this country goes under, remember it is people of all stripes who have no principles who have brought it down.
You’re the frog and the heat is turning up and you’re going to be boiled, not because you’re a dumb frog, but for lack of character.
Hello, Joy,
Yes, the Liberals are peeing on the furniture again…
So sad. I just had that vase cleaned…
“Then you shouldn’t have cited them as the ones to be feared, Bill”
You’ve convinced of your point, Bill. I agree – fear the RNC!!. Everybody’s been kept in shock and awe by it’s actions so far. Why stop trembling now, I say!
Question:
Of all of the candidates who ran for President this year, which of them took a principled stand and actively promoted a Human Life Amendment to our Constitution?
I have to echo Bill Grant’s remarks and wonder also why so many “conservatives” are here complaining about McCain not being conservative enough and then in the same breath encouraging people to vote third party which might as well be called the circular file for your vote….and which will end up helping to elect someone that is beyond liberal and who will destroy this country.
And why on this blog?
But then, there are a lot of things I don’t understand starting with Rupert Murdoch’s line about Obama being “a rock star”.
Is it just me, or doesn’t it seem as if FOX news has taken a hard left lately?
On August 19th, 2008 at 7:06 pm, John Ansell said:
Another flat out lie. John McCain did not write the education plan for LA.
Well obviously it’s a failure there.
Bumper sticker sloganeering won’t do it. Voting for Gingrich wont do it. Making the only person who can stop a truly open borders candidate your personal scapegoat for everything wont do it.
martin.musculus(jr.) said:
Let the adults talk marty.
I hope he picks a rabidly pro-choice candidate, the misguided fools focusing on that issue withdraw support, and Obama ends up taking us down a path where free speech is dead, Marxism rules, and abortions are rampant.
But you all will have really stuck it to McCain.
The GOP deserves to lose with these priorities.
Yeah, that’ll fire up Conservatives. Talk down to them, woo! /sarc
Joy,
Excellent post..
They won’t listen, they’re dyed-in-the-wool Libs, regardless of the character after their name.
Lets see:
initiating ad homin fallacies — check
condesending unsupported points of argument — check
denial of candidate’s responsibility in disagreement — check
moving goal posts — check
denial of moving goal posts — unchecked
snotty attacks on a host gracious enough not to band their childish tantrums — check
whipsawing people who try to have a reasoned debate — check
six out of seven… yep, they’re Liberals alright.
I might be being too hard on them. They have to earn their pay, after all…
No. Fear the inevitable realization that the Obama presidency that has been brought to you as a product of an unfair hissy fit is truly a disaster for the country and could have been avoided by electing a decent man who genuinely cares about the USA.
Naah, just keep dittoing whatever is said here I guess. Pat yourself on the back for helping to elect a socialist, surrendering, appeasing, America resenting, disaster with a resume that consists of 143 days in the senate because you are a true conservative…
I said this is another thread, but it belongs in this one as well.
Here’s the ‘cartoon’:
A bus sitting on top a million dead babies all wearing McCain ‘green’ onsies that say “Choose Life” and the caption is R’s saying, “At least we’re not voting for Obama!”
Melvin_Udall….it’s not the GOP or American people that deserve to lose because of these tired and frankly quite trite lines, it’s the people that utter them.
And they don’t even realize that they don’t sound even one bit different from the far left nuts…….
Proves my point yet again…sadly…that the far right and the far left are the same animal. Have any of you heard of common sense and moderation?
Did you know that America is a right of center country? That other people have rights and opinions too and they actually count?