Proposition 8 will be another battle which I think we will win, but again it is still just a battle. The Gay lobby are like terrorists, in that they will not give up their agenda. Proposition 8 is just one front of the war.

Some of the other fronts are judicial rulings, public schools, mass marketing on TV and blockbuster movies, etc. All designed to destroy the nuclear family of one man and one woman.

In the public schools, students are taught that homosexuality is natural (how they reconcile that position with Darwinism I’m not sure). The most popular song our youth is listening today is “I kissed a girl.” Catchy tune, and easy to memorize lyrics.

It is a war that the enemy does not admit defeat and the enemy will attack on all fronts at the same time.

In a few years after proposition 8 passes (assumption), the gay lobby will submit a counter proposition. Amendments to the California constitution can be put forth by any advocacy group.

Time is on the gay lobby side. When the present generation of children with today’s agenda driven public education propaganda reach voting age, how will they vote?

lgm said:

California is not bad. They’ve spent the past five years raising standards and putting in tougher testing.

Raising standards and tougher testing is a good start but they still have to perform to meet the higher goals. According to this source California has been declining, not improving, over the past 4 years:

The yearly rankings of state education standings shows that states that allow in massive numbers of illegal aliens feel the effect directly in their education system. The 2005-2006 findings, a survey by Morgan Quitno Press, looks at hundreds of public school systems in all 50 states.

Out of the bottom five states, 4 of them have massive numbers of illegal aliens.

46. California
47. Nevada
48. New Mexico
49. Mississippi
50. Arizona

Of particular note is the decline of these 4 states over the past 4 years as they were flooded with the largest influx of illegal aliens ever.

Prop. 8 is the high profile ballot measure on the California ballot this November that would overrule the state supreme court’s decision earlier this year upholding the constitutional right to gay marriage.

At the time Proposition 8 was circulated for signatures, the California State Supreme Court had not issued their atrocious ruling. Proposition 8 is an amendment to the State Constitution to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman. In fact, until the State Supreme Court decision, the ballot description was going to say exactly that. However, the State Attorney General’s Office (AG is Jerry Brown, didn’t we get enough of him in the 70s??) changed the ballot description so that it says that Propostion 8 will eliminate the “right” of same sex couples to marry.

When Proposition 61 was on the ballot, I posted pro Proposition 61 signs on my front lawn which were eventually stolen, as were those of many other supporters of that proposition. I am expecting the same to occur this year. And the opponents of Proposition 8 would likely claim that they are more “tolerant” of opposing viewpoints.

Should Proposition 8 pass (and I’m becoming more confident that it will), there will be a legal tangle regarding those same sex couples who were “married” because the State Supreme Court didn’t have the sense and the patience to delay their ruling until after the November election.

Mississippi is at the bottom, right next to a bunch of other red states that under-fund education.

Under former Gov. Ernie Fletcher, Republican, KY increased spending on eduction by 25% every year and with no results; according to KET, test scores remained virtually flat for every year spending increased. Now, despite his campaign promises to improve education in KY with more funding, under Democrat Gov. Steve Beshear, education spending has been CUT by ~12.5% and local school and college systems are scrambling to reduce their budgets to avoid mass teacher lay-offs. So much for blue/red state Democrats’ ideas and promises on improving education!

Don’t they have more job-related, education-related problems to worry about?

And aren’t teachers wondering why the deep-in-debt CTA keeps pouring their hard-earned dues money down the political drain instead of spending it on, I dunno, teacher/educational needs?

But, when they get card-check, they become flush with cash when those currently nonunion schools finally come into the fold.

To my knowledge, no one forces shareholders to invest in a particular company.

And the CTA adds insult to injury by assessing the union dues of its members to pay for a particular cause. As in ’05 when they bankrupted themselves to defeat the measure I mentioned in #6 above, they tacked an extra $60 onto the dues to pay for their political pursuits. The BAD teachers reaped the rewards paid for by all the GOOD teachers.
I hate unions.

Companies can donate, why not unions?

Companies do not force their employees to contribute to political campaigns under the guise of dues-/membership fees; unions do, and will often retaliate against non-compliant members who fail to “contribute” with the loss of employment-/certain benefits or privileges.

A union is a private organization, like a company. Companies can donate, why not unions?

Because California is not a right-to-work state. To my knowledge, no one forces shareholders to invest in a particular company. If you disagree with the causes and politicians supported by say, AT&T, you are free to dump your stock and buy into Sprint instead.

California is not bad. They’ve spent the past five years raising standards and putting in tougher testing

These results are because of No Child Left Behind. This IS working, for all the bad press it gets.

That’s why California education is at the bottom of the 50 states.

Mississippi is at the bottom, right next to a bunch of other red states that under-fund education. California is not bad. They’ve spent the past five years raising standards and putting in tougher testing.

sonofdy said (@29):

Unions should be about employee and employer relations. When they start political actions like this, they are out side thier bounds and should be shut down.

A union is a private organization, like a company. Companies can donate, why not unions?