DNC Dispatch: The Planned Parenthood protest; Update: Vid added
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DENVER — I attended the abortion protest at the new Planned Parenthood mega-facility here in Denver this morning.
The pro-abortion presence was measly. I counted about seven or eight demonstrators who tried to compensate for their low numbers with their loud mouths.
The ignorance of the pro-abort activists is, frankly, astonishing. This woman, Elaine Brower of NY, stood with the small gaggle of pro-Planned Parenthood cheerleaders attacking pro-lifers as racists.
But when asked whether the barbaric eugenics legacy of Planned Parenthood godmother Margaret Sanger bothered her, she told me: “No, I don’t believe that. That’s made up. This has nothing to do with black people.”
Speaking of which: All of the pro-abortion activists I saw were white. Meanwhile, across the street from Planned Parenthood’s palace, I spoke with black and Hispanic mothers who had very strong feelings about abortion. They weren’t there to take part in the protests. They were there because Planned Parenthood had the disgustingly bad taste to build their bloody business right next to a large park and playground. It’s Martin Luther King Jr. Park — and it was filled this morning with families watching their sons practice football:
One of the moms, Priscilla, was angry about the construction of the clinic right across from her neighborhood park and said bluntly: “I don’t want a f**king abortion clinic in my neighborhood!” A Hispanic mother added: “It’s against the Catholic Church.” Someone tell Joe Biden. And another black mother of three I spoke to while sitting in her minivan, when asked about her views on abortion, told me simply: “I don’t believe in it.”
But our tax dollars pay for it.
And you’re a woman-hating racist if you oppose it.
And if you want to make your views known at the DNC, you better be quiet about it.
The People’s Press Collective, an impressive group of Denver-area bloggers who have united to provide multimedia coverage of the circus, caught a Democrat clean-up crew quickly dispatched to scrub away pro-life chalk messages left on the sidewalk at the Pepsi Center yesterday:
The message they didn’t want the public to see:
“True change ends abortion.”
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Stay tuned here, at Hot Air, and at the People’s Press Collective for more video.
Update: Here’s vid of the protest. Some of my interview with Priscilla, one of the moms angered by Planned Parenthood’s presence, begins at around 5:39:
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“True change ends abortion.”… Yeah, I guess it does.
Thanks for saving the best for last.
I wonder how many of the supporters have been in an abortion clinic. I wonder how many of them have seen a woman right after she has had an abortion.
I have. Before driving a truck, I was a heat and air man for years after getting out of the military. I had a service call to what was listed as a “womens clinic”. While I was looking around, escorted, they were bringing a woman out of the “procedure room”. I was quickly shuttled off to the staff lounge.
But not before I saw the womans face. The look of pain, the realization of what she had just done… It was something that will live with me till my dying days.
I had to get out. Smoke a cigerette and try and clear my head. Try and get myself under control again so I could go back and conduct myself as a professional. Outside, in the staff smoking area they had had some concrete poured recently. One of the employees had taken a stick and inscribed in it, “Jesus, protect us from your followers”. That was the straw that broke the camels back. Loaded my tools and left.
I’m sure many of you have seen things you wish you could forget. The look of pain, the look of final understanding on that young woman’s face is something that no matter how hard I try, I can’t get it out of my mind.
As far as I am concerned, everyone who supports abortion should be faced with such a look. Seeing a woman immediately after the procedure is done is something that may change a few minds.
Twofoot, that was a vivid story you just related. Thank you for sharing with us.
Hey, it’s one of the few times in my adult life I have wept when my children weren’t involved. It’s one story I will tell to anyone who will listen in hopes of changing a mind. Or at least planting a seed that will one day lead to a change of mind.
So true, Twofoot. I only wish more people understood that with abortion, there really are 2 involved: the mother and her child. Abortion impacts both forever.
I say good for these people protesting! I hope more show up.
As with many things, liberals want:
1. Abortion, but they don’t want to see it.
2. Military protection of the nation, but they don’t want to see it.
3. God to save them one day, but they don’t want to see it.
I’m sure there are many more things they want, but don’t want to have to see it.
If we, the U.S. taxpayers must support this murder, than I want every pregnant mother to look at a high resolution sonogram of that soon not to be child.
To paraphrase Mrs. Obama. For first time in my life, I am ashamed of my country.
Why am i always forced to pay for stupid peoples actions. I am so tired of being responsible for people who refuse to be responsible for their own actions.
She had to be from NY… Ugh.
That woman from NY looks like she belongs behind a counter slicing cheap deli meat. Think I’m gonna get ill.
Typical.
If it goes against abortion, it’s “made up.”
Here’s the proof of Margaret Sanger’s love of eugenics, via her own account of speaking with the KKK.
Or this:
Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble.
But keep saying PP is all about helping women.
Right. To paraphrase the woman above: I don’t believe that. It’s made up. Planned Parenthood has nothing to do with helping women.
We may never see the reversal of this hideous law, and we may not see the end of partial birth abortions anytime soon – but, would mandatory notification to perspective fathers of the pending procedure, along with a bill for services rendered by the clinic have any in-your-face effect? If he doesn’t pay the bill at least it would mess up his credit for a long time. Or, how about the mother having to disclose the name of the father if the mother is under the age of consent? If the mother is 16 and the father is 20, he should face jail. Believe that was tried somewhere in the midwest but never heard the outcome.
atheling Re: “Thomas Jefferson: Bill for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers 2:545″.
I applaud you for quoting Jefferson!, so please don’t get me wrong when I remind you that this argument has also been used by the left (unsuccessfully, fortunately)to attempt to de-fund the war effort among other things… so caution is urged.
IMHO,the funding of this practice by taxpayers is legitimate as long as abortion is the law of the land so it is the law & not the funding that needs to be addressed.
GaMidnightRider—
Your post at #10 got me thinking. I abhor the idea of paying for others’ irresponsibility as well, particularly when it involves something so polarizing and ethical. I think abortion is wrong, period. Trying to convince someone with a liberal viewpoint about it is pointless. If Roe v. Wade must stand, I think some stipulations should be placed upon it:
1) Patients must pay out of pocket for the procedure. It amazes me that parents will pay for their teenage daughters to get boob jobs, or that the average woman has no problem shelling out their own money for botox injections, but these same people expect you and me to pay for their abortion(s). Maybe some of the women who use abortion as a form of birth control would think more deeply about it if it was going to cost some major bucks. And as heartless as it sounds, yes, I believe even in extreme cases like rape, they should have to pay out of pocket.
2. Anyone under the age of 18 must have signed parental consent before the procedure can be performed.Doesn’t it seem a bit odd that anyone under 18 must have parental permission to go on a school field trip, but not to have a potentially hazardous medical procedure performed on them?
3. Any woman who enters a clinic to have an abortion performed must first be required to receive orientation about it from the clinic staff. The patient should have to view an ultrasound and/or listen to or read detailed information about the operation itself, and about the development of the baby in terms of weeks or months, so they can see that it IS a living being (not some kind of benign tumor) being removed from their body.
4. Women who enter the clinic to have an abortion performed must agree to some sort of short-term counseling before or afterward. If I file for bankruptcy, I must complete some sort of financial counseling session before the debt can be officially discharged. Why not expect something similar for an act that is likely to have a more profound (certainly emotional) impact on a person who is being held to accountability for future transgressions or misfortune?
All of these would make abortion less convenient, but still allow the “pro-choice” crowd to keep their sacrament legal. I put pro-choice in quotes because my honest opinion is that it is a misnomer— one of the people involved in the procedure has no choice. It’s a shame some people don’t get that.
Strike future from no. 4 above… should have been past. Hands got ahead of the brain…
Watching that video of those guys cleaning the pro-life messages off the sidewalk, couldn’t help but think also of the chi-coms cleaning off the incriminating web pages that showed the ages of those chinese gymnasts to be younger than they claimed.
This is always how it is with the left—the truth must be scrubbed out.
Whoa. I totally disagree. Whether it’s the law of the land or not, if it violates a person’s conscience it is still wrong to make him pay for it. You can invoke legaleze till you’re blue in the face, but no one should be obligated to support something just because it’s legal.
And the fact that people have used this argument in support of something you don’t agree with does not mean I or others cannot use it.
Slavery was legal. Does that mean I would have had to subsidize it with my tax dollars? Would you?
So much of what some people believe is willful ignorance to anything that may oppose their preconceived notions of truth. The sad thing is that this habit knows no political ideology, religion, or position.
Excellent coverage Michelle.
Yes, it is. And American Bishops need to grow a pair and begin to act when so called Catholic politicians actively promote state funded abortion. Abortion is bad enough when people use their own money. I do not want my tax dollars to fund the killing.
thats exactly what they wanted to do. they’re just being faithful to the evolutionary/eugenics vision of their founder, that disgusting racist piece of trash margaret sanger.
they usually build their abortion chambers in neighborhoods with a large population of minorities….
Saying that abortions are funded by tax dollars is a big lie. Federal tax dollars are not allowed to go towards abortion. Period. Planned Parenthood gets tax monies because of Title X, a program that allows families in need to receive health care and birth control at reduced or no cost. None of that money is allowed to support an abortion.
As for building a Planned Parenthood facility near a park, who cares. Maybe it will serve as a reminder to soccer moms to get a mammogram.
By the way, all the abortion is bad for women stuff is bunk.
EQ, that is an unbiased source. See if you can find something that argues the opposite that isn’t from a Christian or anti-choice source. I would be glad to read it over.
atheling, re; #19.
Your point(s) are well taken. We both agree that abortion is wrong. I believe that it should be illegal & it is the law that need to be changed. The fact that we are asked to pay for it against our beliefs is wrong, but no more wrong than paying to support those who willfully don’t contribute to society(which also leads to more abortions). It is the law & not he funding that offends me.
and of course planned parenthood, being so moral, would NEVER use those funds to support abortion. bet you think ACORN uses their money to help the poor people of color too!!
are you just a liar, or stupid? its much worse for the baby. not that you would care about that. how come people like you are so desperate to see babies killed?
the funding, my bad
Here comes, Rusty, champion of babykilling.
Your asinine denial that abortion doesn’t hurt women is more proof that you hate women as well as babies.
You’re a lying murderer.
to the left killing babies is their holy communion, and they defend it at all costs!!
guess they’re just making sacrifices to their dark god of evolution, darwin.
Oh, atheling, you silly, silly dummy.
Enjoy fighting that war in Iraq without the tax dollars of the super-majority of Americans who want us out of the Middle East.
And it’s a moot point anyways. Family planning clinics are not allowed to use that money on abortions. One could rasonably surmise that somewhere down the line, someone broke the rules. And those people should be held accountable. But if you think PP is going to risk their Title X money, hundreds of millions of dollars, then you’re out of your tree.
And I hate women, Atheling? A non-partisan study concluded that the theory that women suffer from psychological effects after abortion is false. I don’t hate women. I hate people who ignore data when that data undermines one of their points.
Stupid double blockquote. Argh.
MM, if you are at the rally Monday with Alveda King and Archbishop Chaput, I will be there with my brother Knights of Columbus. Stop and say hello.
And Randy, come work as a volunteer for Project Rachel. You’ll see you are utterly and completely WRONG, if you have the courage to face the results of your liberal disregard for human life.
If you have the courage to face the peopel reaping the consequences of your ambitions, come and meet and help the woment that are experiencing the physical, emotional and spiritual trauma that elective abortion inflicts.
It is a form of post truama stress disorder. It exists, it is seriuous, and like other forms of PTSD< ignoring it or claiming it doesnt exist can have fatal consequences for those suffering from it.
http://www.noparh.org/
The National Office of Post-Abortion Reconciliation and Healing
A non-profit aiding women caught by post-abortion trauma for over 18 years.
There are links there to the regional Project Rachel centers, or else one can contact the local Catholic diocese or local Catholic Charities to put you in touch with The Rachels.
Only the right and the Church seem to be insterested in helping the victims.
You and other hard leftists seem only interested in denying they even exist.
Randy and others, with those cold responses, who apparently don;t care what happens to women that have aboprtions, as long as you get to score political points by baby killing, I have to wonder:
Where is your “liberal compassion” for these women now?
ANSWER THE QUESTION. I bet you dodge again, you gutless killer of innocents.
I’d rather be a fool than a murderer, Rusty.
And that is exactly what you are. Your rabid support of murdering babies makes you a murderer.
Mission accomplished.
The only difference between Red China during the Olympics and the DNC convention is that the media will be safe from persecution.
But everyone else with a thought of free speech will go into the isolation cages.
Hi Rusty a poem for you:
A Great Loss
Jessica
Abortion is not murder. A 12 week fetus is not a person. A 12 week fetus has no higher level mental function. People who support abortion are not supporting murder.
lgm back to play?
Lets try 13 weeks
Lets try 15 weeds
Lets try 1 weeks when brain activity can be found.
When does death occur?
Your on a very very slippery slop legally and socially.
A fetus is alive, undeniably. ANd if left along will almost certianly be a person. So why do you arbitrarily draw the line at 12 weeks? It he or she any less alive before or after that point?
LGM, given your statement, you must believe its also OK to terminate witn active measures the life of anyone that no longer has higher mental functions.
I guess you feel comfortable being in there with Megele and Hitler in your lack of respect for defenseless life, abortion, euthanasia, etc.
Thanks for letting us see clearly where you stand — firmly wiht the culture of death that arbitrarily destroys life.
On August 23rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm, lgm said:”Abortion is not murder. A 12 week fetus is not a person. A 12 week fetus has no higher level mental function”.
Higher level mental function??? You make this too easy.
Wow, Pee Wee, you’re sharp today. Bored with cleaning litter boxes?
Come on atheling…can’t leave low lying fruit like that and not expect someone to reach out and snatch it.
And I gleefully clean litter boxes for my little ones.
So does that mean we can kill mentally retarded people, lgm?
Be careful…
In Texas you apparently can.
lgm
At what level do measure intelligence before you can murder someone? What is retardation? Would you say it’s when they can’t interact with fellow humans at the level you want. Or the level the government wants. Dangerous place lgm
There are lots of slippery slopes in life. There are fully conscious people near the end of life who refuse “heroic” medical care because it would not improve their quality of life. Hospitals and families have to figure out how to walk on this slippery slope that might lead to euthanasia.
God gave us intelligence. Let’s use it. The question is not whether the fetus is alive, but whether it is a person.
“The pro-abortion presence was measly. I counted about seven or eight demonstrators who tried to compensate for their low numbers with their loud mouths.”
Nothing new here. Each year at the Walk for Life in San Francisco, a much smaller counter-protest group, a real cream of the crop of San Fran activists, shows up and they bring their stupid chants and coathangers.
lgm
You really need ask that question? When are they human. GEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are us.
“Abortion is not murder. A 12 week fetus is not a person. A 12 week fetus has no higher level mental function. People who support abortion are not supporting murder.”
Then why do they cringe so when shown a photo of an abort “fetus”. After all it is just a standard medical procedure and a bunch of cells right?
lgm, re: ” The question is not whether the fetus is alive, but whether it is a person.”
I kinnda feel the same way about you…
Now Now brooklyn red. Be nice.
Don’t worry FamilyMan, lgm is tougher than that…
lgm, please, don’t be so cryptic.
Simply parrot Herr Hitler’s theories and policies on why certain undesirables must be exterminated – for that is the foundation of your ideology.
Don’t be shy, now.
atheling, don’t worry. I forwarded the higher brain function thing to PETA… he won’t be gettin any for a while.
lgm and others
What it human? Lets try when group of chemicals are combined to form a human double helix that when combined with another unique double helix that has the potential to grow to be an observer of the total gestalt of the universe and reflect on that observation with a totally unique perspective.
Sorry 10 cups of coffee!!!!!!!
FamilyMan re “…to be an observer of the total gestalt of the universe and reflect on that observation with a totally unique perspective…”
The unique perspective, part is exactly why they are killed… commies HATE unique perspective.
TRUE TRUE brooklyn red Why is this so hard to understand?
I would think this is an important distinction.
Where is lgm? Did he go to the PETA site to find out how frogs and humans are the same?
and die. It’s the same social problem.
FamilyMan, re: “Where is lgm?” Hahaha!
lgm is just a drive by, welcome to da hood.
This is why I love abortion threads. I just KNOW that if I try hard enough, I will convince you that my side is right. And if you try super hard, you might convince me too.
Or not.
chapoutier, if you need convincing bout right & wrong it don’t say much bout yo mama. word.
Hey brooklyn, did you notice on the other thread where Goldwater Knight dissed you and your peeps? He basically said that people from the Bronx and Brooklyn are too stupid to be trusted to elect members of Congress.
I wouldn’t take that.
My mama is probably anti-choice. Not sure. Never talked about it. But I would thank you to leave her out of the discussion.
brooklyn red
Are you doing YOMAMMA’S now?
You must be racist/sarc
Sorry bout yo mamma, but as far as “Bronx and Brooklyn are too stupid to be trusted to elect members of Congress.” – Towns, Clinton, Schumer, Spitzer, Bloomberg, Wrangel… yeah pretty f’n stoopid… GN is right. Now back to yo mama… she didn’t leave you in a planed parenthood dumpster, now did she…
On August 23rd, 2008 at 8:22 pm, FamilyMan said:brooklyn red
Are you doing YOMAMMA’S now?
Well when it comes to abortion it’s all about yo mama, now isn’t it.
Touche!
chap, chap? awwww come back, I am sorry about the yo mama thing…
Pretty obviously, no. But that which had the potential to eventually grow into me didn’t have the capacity for either awareness or opinion one way or the other.
And what is is about your Brooklyn brethren that you feel makes the vast majority of them inherently stupid? And why were you apparently so fortunate to avoid it?
Sorry, feeding the critters.
“And what is is about your Brooklyn brethren that you feel makes the vast majority of them inherently stupid? And why were you apparently so fortunate to avoid it?”
Easy that. I wasn’t raised here, I didn’t grow up drinking the public school cool-aid. My mother didn’t abort me & my father stuck around to raise me…
so what part of Clinton , Schumer & Wrangel did you not understand???
And yet you try to claim its heritage as your own? “Fort Greene in da house?” Such regional jingoism is usually reserved for those actually born, bred and proud of the particular place.
I understand you do not think them good public servants. Hardly a universal opinion.
The APA is hardly an unbiased source.
Go to post-abortion sites and tell them there emotions are all “bunk.”
I used to respect you, Rusty, but saying that abortion is a-okay for women is beyond the pale.
Many, many, many, many women have had abortions and suffered. Including a few on this board.
You’re spitting in their faces.
And until you recognize that, I don’t give a crap what you think.
Abortion SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. PERIOD.
Anyone who supports it – including you – is evil and ignorant.
And will one day have to answer for it.
The thing here is I have a concern chap’s gonna take his new kittens and bake them into a pie. I don’t think you can put it past him.
A sterling paradigm of literary eloquence; your words flow like sh*t through a goose man.
Only if they do something REALLY bad. Like meow or something.
A sterling paradigm of a retort. Utterly vacuous.
This is just one of the stories that Rusty claims is “bunk”:
Or this one:
Or this one:
Or this one:
Or this study, that links abortion to women’s violent deaths.
But of course, because a pro-lifer found these stories, they’re all bunk and made up.
None of these women are really dead. I’m sure Rusty will be more than happy to contact their families and tell them their deaths were all a figment of their imagination…
I think I’m going to go around and start saying all the anti-war folks post-war trauma stories are made up, too. Let’s see how far that goes.
Give me a break.
I’ll find more stories, too. But – of course – they’ll be dismissed. Nothing can stand in the way of abortion…especially not fact and the harm to women.
Only women who can’t have abortions are tragedies. Women who have abortions, die from them, or kill themselves afterward are all myths…
If you think that a majority of Americans are evil and ignorant then maybe this isn’t the right country for you.
“And yet you try to claim its heritage as your own? “Fort Greene in da house?” Such regional jingoism is usually reserved for those actually born, bred and proud of the particular place.”
Chap, old chap, 30+ yrs & spilled blood make it mine. Tell me otherwise. Hope that you never really face a jury, you just don’t have what it takes to connect… I am born and raised NY. You don’t seem so proud about your upbringing…
Go to afterabortion.com, which is a neutral site giving women a place to discuss the aftermath of their abortions. Real cheery place, that.
But no – no trouble there. Getting an abortion is no different than a day at the salon, right?
please explain how funded by tax dollars is a lie whey you yourself say they are funded by tax monies???
Wow what could be a better example of the lefts twisted logic.
So am I. Lewis County IN DA HOUSE!
And what does “spilled blood” have to do with anything? Did you scrape your knee defending Flatbush Ave from the invading Cobble Hill hordes?
They are not allowed to use any federal money to fund their abortion practices. That money must be spent on other services that they offer.
Well you show no mental function, therefore aborting your essense is not murder??
Twisted lefty logic at play?
lgm is at least capable of typing sentences. If you can find a 12 week fetus that can do that I will support legislation to ban abortion.
When are we human? What makes us human? DNA. Our DNA becoumes uniquely human at conception.
Here’s another study, including research from the University of Minnesota’s Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Department.
Or from the book Unprotected, the chapter entitled “Kelly’s Summer Vacation”, which outlines the negative affections of abortion.
But, once again, it’ll be dismissed as biased.
Of course, the fact the APA (the source of Rusty’s study) has been in favor of abortion since 1969…means they’re unbiased?
Got it.
S T U P I D
This person can make his/her own choice.
A baby cannot make a choice.
Twisted leftie logic again.
Hey, lgm? Should we kill all babies which are unable to make a choice because they are unable make a choice??? ummmm
Our DNA exists in every skin cell we flake off, in every hair that falls from our head. Are those things then clones?
If abortion is allowed for women, should also be allowed for men. If a woman confronts a man and says that she is pregnant and he will have to support the baby, he should be allowed to go to court, show that it would be too much of a financial burden or simply say he does not want the responsibility, then the court dissolves him as the father and he has no responsibility for the child….only fair.
The trauma patient has no higher mental function.
Guess that means they’re not human, either, and killing them is not murder.
All of you who support this show your true colors time and again: Haters of women and children.
I wouldn’t be proud of that.
No, I think a man who doesn’t want the child should be able to force the woman to have an abortion.
That’s the only fair way to do this.
/sarcasm
So we have to look human to be considered thus?
You know what he means, so don’t try to obfuscate the argument.
An unborn child is human. Not a whale, not a chicken, not a lizard. Human. With his own DNA, own heart, own brain, own body.
But anything that gets in the way of abortion is an inconvenient truth and will be ignored.
Heaven help any women you might get pregnant fellas, she’s pretty much screwed.
Chap, you should know that under advice of counsel I can not answer that question… so I do not recommend that you represent the people either. But if you insist, I could forward your resume to my peeps at DANY. But really, real estate might be the way for you to go.
This presentation thing seems to escape you… & Lewis county??? I thought they paved that under with love canal… but I don’t get out much anymore.
Facile. There are three year olds who can’t do that. Does that mean they are not human persons?