Obama threatens TV stations airing Ayers ad
The Obama campaign is giving a glimpse of the future for conservative free speech. They’re trying to sic the Justice Department on TV stations, many of them Sinclair Broadcasting stations, that are airing the independent ad on Obama and Bill Ayers.
Feel the chill in the air?
Barack Obama is striking back fiercely and swiftly to stamp out an ad that links him to a 1960s radical, eager to demonstrate a far more aggressive response to attacks than John Kerry did when faced with the 2004 “Swift Boat” campaign.
Obama not only aired a response ad to the spot linking him to William Ayers, but he sought to block stations the commercial by warning station managers and asking the Justice Department to intervene. The campaign also planned to compel advertisers to pressure stations that continue to air the anti-Obama commercial.
It’s the type of going-for-the-jugular approach to politics many Democrats complain that Kerry lacked and that Republicans exploit.
Obama’s target is an ad by the conservative American Issues Project, a nonprofit group that questions Obama’s ties to Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground organization that took credit for a series of bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol four decades ago. ..
… Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama supporters have inundated stations that are airing the ad, many of them owned by Sinclair Communications, with 93,000 e-mails. He called the ad false, despicable and outrageous.
“Other stations that follow Sinclair’s lead should expect a similar response from people who don’t want the political discourse cheapened with these false, negative attacks,” Vietor said.
Bullying You Can Believe In.
Related: “New Obama ad: Why is McCain trying to distract us with that unrepentant terrorist I’m friends with?”
Related: Obama responds to Ayers.
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Typical liberal BS.
His association with Ayers is germane and heavy handed attempts to hide that association will not help his case.
Clean? Perhaps not so much Mr. Obama.
Clean and Jerk indeed.
Let’s see BO doesn’t believe in free speech, unless you believe in him?
Where the hell is Bush’s DOJ, what a fraud Bush was and is.
This is scary folks, very scary…a revolution on the horizon.
As far as the email campaign, I support this in the same way I supported (in principle) MM’s right to pressure Dunkin Donuts into taking off the Rachel Ray ad. The station can choose to make the choice that they feel will best meet the needs of the station.
As far as bringing in the DOJ, if the station is doing something wrong, they should be brought to light. If not, then what do they have to fear?
Some call it “bullying.” Others call it “effective and legal pressure.” That’s the American way, right?
And this is the politics of change? The new way of politics?
Ummm, ok
They are airing that ad in my tv market. It is effective.
The ad will take on a life of its own via the internet, bullying or no bullying. The PUMAS have posted a good ad by the Texas Republicans.
The bullying will just drive more traffic to the ad — unintended consequences.
The O camp really doesn’t think things through too well. The concept of “second and third order effects” is a new one to them, he.
Really? If “in principle” means you put that down in writing in a quote somewhere, I’d love to see it. If you did, good on ya. Otherwise, I’m skeptical based on how slanted I’ve seen your comments here are.
Bringing in the DOJ though… on what grounds? If even part of it isn’t true, then file suit. If it’s factual and just unflattering, then using your position in the Senate to squelch free speech is pretty damning.
Calling on the DoJ to investigate is brownshirt behavior and should send a chill down any proponent of free speech. Or do you see something the rest of us don’t see in the Obama/Ayers add that is illegal and not free speech?
Defending his relationship with a questionable person is one thing, Ayers is beyond questionable. This should bring more attention to Obambi’s America hate.
Good or bad for McCain? Can’t say.
I do see that it helps Barry though, because as long as he is able to keep McCain’s attacks on the front burner he doesn’t have to address real issues that he should be talking about, issues that affect the nation. Just keep’em looking over here.
The game of distraction goes on. Nothing up this sleeve, nothing up this sleeve, nothing between my ears.
Here.
Again, if they aren’t doing anything wrong, then surely there is nothing to fear, right? There shouldn;t be any “chilling” effect on otherwise legal speech. At least that is the justification I get whenever warrantless wiretapping is brought up.
You’re a funny man to attempt to seriously compare listening to phone calls from suspected terrorists overseas making calls to US numbers from overseas with the DoJ being called in by a Senator to investigate a free speech advertisement. Can I have some of what your smoking or did they hand all the rest of that out to the guy with the foil cape at the mint in Denver?
I’m calling it right now, and really, someone please transcribe this:
If Obama loses, it will be because he was Ayers’d (just like the only reason Kerry lost was because he was Swift Boated! The ONLY REASON was because of those lying ‘Nam vets!).
That’s why (to paraphrase the article) it’s so awesome!!!! of Father BO to respond with the shot at the jugular that that wuss Kerry was so afraid to do! Since, the only reason his predecessor lost, was some unfair ads by a 527!! GO BO!!!! plz txt me @ 3 nxt time u have a scoop
(to paraphrase the article).
IMHO the McCain camp is definitely winning the ad wars. Theirs have more punch. The One’s sound whiney by comparison. Trying to coerce stations to pull ads is not “pro-active”, it’s an act of desperation.
The One had to open the door re: “houses”. He should reap what he sows.
Here’s the Texas Republican one:
http://www.texasgop.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Obama_Commercial“>
My argument is not about the terrorist whose phone is wiretapped. My argument is about the non-terrorist who has reason to fear their phone may be wire tapped. I always here from people on this board…”I’m not doing anything wrong, why should I care?”
So if the Ayers ads aren’t breaking any laws why should the group putting them out care if the DOJ chooses to look into them? They will be totally vindicated, right?
Assuming they are seeing the same ad I am then yes. Still a desperate and police state type tactic on his part, and a chilling look into the future of those who might oppose “the One”.
As scary as it is man, you are probably right. We will have to fight these people eventually. I had that thought for the first time ever yesterday watching the videos of the protestors in Denver.
It may not be revolution. It may be that some regions of the country will be fighting for their independence from the US.
This Obama Ayers thing is the
“Never-Ending Gobstopper” of the Obama saga.
For that matter so is Rezko, Michelle Obama, His history, His World Citizen…..
What do you call using legal pressure to squelch the first amendment rights of US citizens? You could say brownshirts but Hitlers magistrates did the same thing so blackshirts apply too. What should be done about a group or groups like that, I wonder if rico applies.
If Obama loses it will be because we are all bigots and racists.
You have learned the power of the liberalside of the force well young padiwan.
You’re missing the point entirely.
Plus, making false accusations to the DOJ with the express intent to intimidate is a gross waste and abuse of taxpayer resources, not too mention beyond sleezy.
I’m not a McCain fan; I disagree with him on many issues, but Obama is downright frightening.
The methodical “scrubbing” of any and all dissenting opinions from blogs the O team has any influence over that are any less than complete cheerleading,
the shameless use of the Race card,
the refusal to be forthright about his past, and now, threats and intimidate when efforts to “control the message” fail.
So…to turn your logic around, if Obama’s association with Ayers meant he did nothing wrong and doesn’t point to a lack of judgment, then he should have nothing to fear with the ads going forward…if it’s “no big deal”, right?
Last time I checked, freedom of speech was still a pretty important value cherished by many in this country.
I already know I’m a bigot. Lindsay Graham said I was.
Absolutely good on ya then, thank you for the link. I agree 100%.
About the free speech effects… how many times have you been able to contact the DOJ to demand an investigation into someone? Also, if the information is not accurate, what’s the DOJ’s interest? Shouldn’t it be a civil matter?
There is a difference between a “false” accusation and one that is a debatable issue. One can bring a lawsuit. One may ultimately lose that lawsuit, but it doesn’t mean that there was not a colorable argument or that the suit was brought in bad faith.
What will Obama do if they don’t stop?
Well, blow up the stations what else?
Obama, Ayers, Dohrn of One Accord:
So…to turn your logic around, if Obama’s association with Ayers meant he did nothing wrong and doesn’t point to a lack of judgment, then he should have nothing to fear with the ads going forward…if it’s “no big deal”, right?If those ads are legal, let them run. I made no value judgment as to the ad itself. I find many ads scurrilous and distasteful, but I don’t think they should be pulled.
If the campaign is claiming violation of a federal statute over which the DOJ has jurisdiction then it is a matter for them. The DOJ can then decide whether or not there is a case.
Name me one federal statute that this ad violates?
/crickets
I stand by my brownshirt statement and second the waste of our taxpayer dollars statement.
Fixed that for you..
From what I’ve seen, they’ve made no specific claim as to what Federal statute may have been violated… just demanded an investigation (fishing expedition).
McCain should air a national ad highlighting Obama’s attempt to manipulate the DOJ to do his bidding, all while explaining that the cover-up involved a longstanding friendship with a known, unrepentant terrorist. Whamo! Two birds with one stone. And what an effective ad it would be…
Amen
“Obama not only aired a response ad to the spot linking him to William Ayers, but he sought to block stations the commercial by warning station managers and asking the Justice Department to intervene. The campaign also planned to compel advertisers to pressure stations that continue to air the anti-Obama commercial.”
Obamastapo. You’ve seen the salute.
You know what I like about Obama? You run an ad against him and his response gives you a couple more points to hammer him on. He sure is a good sport. Literally, the candidate that keeps on giving.
On August 26th, 2008 at 12:30 am, chapoutier said:
Right, because lawyers work for free.
Obama is abusing his position to squash knowledge of his unsavory associate.
I am not an election law expert nor an FCC expert. I suspect Obama has many of both working for him. But surely if it does not violate a law, the group airing them should have no concerns, right?
WTF: What’s the complaint to the DOJ? WTF?!
Why should this be any different from any other aspect of our judicial system in which the vindicated have to pay for their own defense?
On August 26th, 2008 at 1:08 am, chapoutier said:
You are missing (or ignoring) the point. You asked ‘why should they care?’. They should care because they federal law enforcement knocking on their door. Innocent or not, the legal bills and headaches add up.
Again, Senator Obama associates with evil people, and wants to squash that information. He is abusing his office.
You are right. Legal bills and headaches add up regardless of what you do if what you are doing something that could potentially subject you to legal liability. You seem so confident that they are not violating the law. Why? Do you know what law the Obama campaign is citing? And if you do, what makes you an expert on said law?
This guy is such an empty suit. He complains that McCain won’t talk about the issues, but he won’t either because he knows he’ll lose on the issues. Classic Clinton playbook though: ignore; deny; attack the person raising the issue. Anything but an honest discussion.
It doesn’t matter if you are breaking the law, in a gray area, or in a coma. Investigators from the government arrive, and they are there to help. Almost as much fun as a root canal.
Government agencies like problems. Dealing with problems is their raison d’etre. They are not in the business of working themselves out of a job.
This reminds me of, during the Clinton years, how certain folks would find that they were being audited by the IRS. If we follow Chapoutier’s logic, what did those folks have to fear, if they did their taxes correctly?
Oh, it also reminds me of the nutty Scientologists (oops, $cientologists), who use lawsuits to harass, not to actually win, the intent is to tie their enemies up, burden them with legal feels, and intimidate them into silence.
I hope McCain’s folks air an ad like this:
“After an independent group aired an ad questioning Senator Obama’s friendship with William Ayers, his campaign orchestrated an attempt to bombard the stations with email, and attempted to get the Justice Department involved. Obama’s spokesman threatened “Other stations that follow Sinclair’s lead should expect a similar response”
Why? Why would you do that, Senator Obama?
What are you trying to hide?”
Obama supports free speech, as long as he likes it.
If elected it will be worse.
Really? I doubt that there are very many here who are ok with the government snooping on their phone calls with no warrants or oversight.
Far too many comments to read through all of them, but most of them are great. However, this battle has already been won. The SCOTUS has determined that Political Speach can include lies, innuendo, falsehoods, and any other piece of garbage and be protected speech. Too bad, BO.
Why should anyone be surprised by this response? This is how Socialists and Communists operate. They shut down opposition, shut down discourse etc. All one need do is look at the last two weeks in China, where the Reds not only denied people the opportunity to protest in the area that the government itself had declared to be used for just that event, but even went so far as to inprison people…like two old ladies…for even asking for permission to do so.
This is exactly what you will get with the so-called “Fairness Doctrine”. Anything that will be against Fearless Leader will be squashed, people silenced and don;t be surprised if there are prison sentaces for those having anything to do with speaking out against The Prolitariat…otherwise known as the Obama Administration.
This goes far beyond anything that the Liberal Trolls here can excuse away. it is a very clear and concise look into the Obama Administration…and a prime example of the fact that it is the Liberals who are doing and advocate doing exactly what they accuse the bush administration, Republicans and Conservatives of doing.
Exactly who is it that will be removing your constitutional Rights? Not the Right, that’s for damn sure. Never did, never will.
Its called coercive force. “Continue and bad things will happen”. Also called a threat, intimidation. Its even worse when it is perpetrated by someone who has risen to the status that Obama has.
Bottom line: Obama is acting like the Black Theology street thug that he really is. Disgusting and yes, scary for the future of America.
There is only one solution to this. McCain needs to get tough and produce the ad himself. That way there will be no posible violation of McCain-Feingold, and Obama would look completely ridiculous if he tries to silence it.
Interesting that you bring up censorship. Just recently started blogging on craigslist about illegal immigration, (there is a comment about the Sinclair group in here, I am not completely off-topic) and it seems that there WAS some collective effort by a “La Raza” type group, flagging for the deletion of any post that had the words illegal, alien, or ICE, etc. I say WAS because after some of us became hip to this we started flooding the site with information about illegal immigration AND the First Amendment AND the terms of use of the site itself.
Liberals…humff…think they are supporting the rights of one group by taking away the rights of another group.
Although, in the case of Sinclair Communications, if the shareholders make their wishes known by threatening to pull their funds, well, that is just the free-market at work, sorry about that.
I sent this email to Sinclair Broadcasting Group after reading that Barack Obama is asking the DOJ to stop Sinclair from broadcasting the ad paid for by the group American Issues Project which discusses Obama’s association with domestic terrorist William Ayers.
Please DO NOT GIVE IN to the Liberal Left and remove the AIP Ad from running all over the country. People need to hear about Obama’s longtime connection to Ayers and many other questionable affiliations. This ad is not illegal, if it were, then wouldn’t Obama’s Lawyers be suing Mr. Freddoso and Mr. Corsi for libel? These are the facts. Let them be heard!
Tell Sinclair your feelings on this issue.
Sinclair Broadcasting Group contact is on: http://www.sbgi.net/contact/contact.shtml
Watch the TV Ad at American Issues Project
http://www.americanissuesproject.org/
CL is notorious for the Liberals comandeering the forums. If there is anything there that even hints at conservative or Republican, they flag the daylights out of it. Their goal, apparently, is to present itself as the true voice of America, showing that obviously Liberals are the majority, as well as quashing any and all opposing views.
I used to try to participate over there, but just got plain tired of everything being flagged. I even got into a flagging war, and for about two weeks, there was absolutely no posts in the Politics section, it got that stupid.
Their policy on flagging may work for some things, but on the whole, it is an incredibly stupid website. heck, they wouldn’t even let me ask questions about breeding my Golden Retriever.
But if you need a hooker…
Once the convention has confirmed Obama and Biden, McCain would be smart to turn up the heat on them. Let the public know about Ayers and Wright, plus what speaking errors that he’s made. Of course, there will always be people who will vote Democrat, even if it was a Stalin/Pol Pot ticket. They are lost. Keep the pressure on, and keep asking him to debate.
Funny you should mention it…
http://www.luoamerican.com/baldilocks/2008/08/day-dreaming.html
(BTW, thanks for posting baldilocks’ website, MM.)
This very subject formed the basis for an episode of “Boston Legal,” so I know it must be true.
What I don’t understand is this: How can BHO be such a Constitutional scholar yet not know he doesn’t have a leg to stand on?
No surprise from the ObamaMessiah Gestapo. You must silence the opposition!
As far as chaps theory that:
1) this isn’t a serious attempt to stop a wrong, or to seek redress of having been wronged. This is a fishing expedition to sic the Justice Department – with unlimited funds – on a group that should be protected under the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution.
2) Can I start suing you chapoutier? No real reason, I just want to start filing lawsuits against you until I drive you broke and silence your internet presence because you can’t afford to get online anymore.
Plus, if I can find a friendly judge, I can get your house (do you have a house?), your car (do you have a car?)), and force you into bankruptcy.
with regards to your red herring about comparing it to the perfectly legal foreign enemy intelligence intercepts – I’m glad you show such support for terrorists. We can send that to the DoJ too, and have them do an investigation. There’s actually more to back up that investigation than there is the one that The One is trying to foist off as legitimate.
So is this the purpose of Obama’s “civilian national security force” that is “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military?
I will donate some money to McCain or to a worthy 501(c)3 very soon to help get the message out against Obama. Money is the way we get our message out we should all do more than just blog if we are serious about beating Obama.
BHO ‘denounced’ the terrorist acts of Bill Ayers …. and many governments denounced the terrorist attack on us on September 11, 2001, like Syria, Iran, PLO, Cuba, North Korea, Libya, etc. Why, even the Taliban in Afghanistan denounced bin Laden’s attack on us — mid stride carrying water for al Qaida there. BHO seems to be becoming a professional denouncer these days.
Brownshirts rush in. What’s next? Will we be force to present the “Obama Salute” when he’s within eyesight or they’ll sic Alex Jones on us?
Hopefully someone has this documented. It would make another great ad for the McCain folks.
In response to:
On August 26th, 2008 at 1:06 am, chapoutier said:
Let’s use simple logic and reverse your premise. If the ad does not violate federal law, then the DOJ has no need to investigate! This is clearly an attempt to intimidate stations from running the ad. Obama is he one who should take your advice to heart and ignore anything that is a non-truth.
Well, ya know…with the kind of crowd that hangs around that kind of site, they may have misunderstood what you meant.
Anyone who doesn’t think this means dissenters under Obama won’t be dragged off for re-education…raise your hands.
‘Cause this tells me otherwise.
Dances,
Excellent point. I am so glad that BHO’s dubious associations are finally being called into question. This story just confirms for me once again, that while I have serious disputes with John McCain, he is by far the better of these two choices. It’s time to grow up and realize that for now at least in America, it is a two-party system, for better or for worse. I’ll work to get good conservatives into Congress and keep my thoughts on our brave Military as I touch the computer screen for McCain in November. The alternative is just too frightening.
As I mentioned in another post, it’s not that he even cares about “winning”. It’s about intimidation. The fear that the DOJ is going to show up, want all the records, look into everything, add a lot of unwanted scrutiny. The “win” is scaring other stations so that they won’t follow the same path. It’s a page out of the playbook of $cientology. Ya know, the “religion” of Tom Cruise and John Travolta.
I agree with #31, there is an ad here somewhere of Obama’s attempt to stop Free Speech.
I still don’t understand what Obama feels is false about the Ad? Its illegal to make negative ads about a world event that happened when you were <10? I don’t think so. Its the unbelievably poor judgement you have shown as an adult.
And haven’t CNN & FOX already refused to air it, but on what grounds? Right now I love Sinclair Broadcasting and the increased support from Free Speech loving Americans will far outweigh any non-support from the nutroots.
In Hamlet “the lady doth protest too much”. To understand power politics, read Shakespeare.
Chap said:
Why is there this tendency to spreak about right and wrong when the tactic is to drain the opposition of financial resources.
I’d find it logical you’d air an attack ad when all its message is 100% correct; factual.
A law firm can bury their opponent with paper work, causing them to capitulate. These people are lawyers using the same tactics.
Old joke: If you have a lawyer, Hitler, and Stalin and a gun with only two bullets, what do you do?
Answer: Shoot the Lawyer twice.
Welcome to Chicago politics; silence the messenger if you don’t like the message. If BO wins – the Chicago political machine controls the White House.
Baby Oblabla is becoming Stalinesque in his media stature, first created by them and now using them with lethal effectiveness.
The Ayers ad doesn’t violate any law. It asks justifiable questions about what people know about Barack Obama. His response has been telling. Instead of being honest and forthright, he’s used the political tactics that he’s learned from the Daly machine in Chicago. New politics? Reaching across the aisle? Consensus building? I’m waiting to see what’s in those records of his and Ayers dealings on the Annenberg board together, but even if that were harmless, his approach to questioning is anti-Democratic and totally unacceptable for someone who wants to be president. And, BO, I don’t care how many homes McCain’s wife owns. I do care that you want to exploit that to your advantage like a good post-modern pol.
BO’s reaction leads me to believe that the Ayers association may be on target enough to strike a nerve in the Obama camp.
igm, I don’t know how you got a second account (Wellsy), but it’s the same old crap that outed you.
On August 26th, 2008 at 8:24 am, rambler said:
Welcome to Chicago politics; silence the messenger if you don’t like the message. If BO wins – the Chicago political machine controls the White House.
After sepnding twenty years in that great city, I can’t think of anything that would be more frightening…
This is probably going to backfire on Oblahblah. The stations may still air the ad on their commentary segments: “This is the ad that Obama’s referring to the DoJ”, and make a big deal about the action itself. This will draw attention to the ad via other channels. The whole thing is going to expose Comrade Obama for what he is.
The democrats believe in the 1st amendment, just not the version in the Bill of Rights.
this is just the beginning…not even President and he’s trying to control everything…look out all you “change” advocates, you may get far more than you asked for…
Your right Bruce. How did he do that?
The One can’t handle the truth!
The One is consumed with himself.
The One? sheesh more like #2.
MAN… I sure love it, when a plan comes together…
Hey- you know, my radio Internet site has been down for a couple day’s now, so no Laura or Rush…HMMMMMMMMMM…
What the hell is going on with Fox News?
When was limiting free speech their thing?
Didn’t their reporter, Griff Jenkins wanted to know what the lib protesters outside the DNC were about and got trampled? He was declaring ‘free speech’ yet the network is limiting it.
I bet that OBAMABInlaDEN admire China more than any other nation.
The one decides what the truth is.
Obama for god emperor 2008!!!
Obama and his thought control machine make communism look like the epitome of an open society. This guy is really dangerous.
Tho doth protest too much Sir.But keep it up it makes you look innocent as a lamb.
My only question is why did he wait so long to show us what he really really wants?
wait…how do I turn that sarcasm off again?
Oh yeah….
/sarc
Wasn’t it Khrushchev that said’ Russia didn’t have to fight the US, we would take down the flag and give it to Russia. This election looks like we are at that point now.
Precisely. Calling in the DOJ gives the appearance of legitimacy to the Obama complaint. Of course, it could backfire and make even more people aware of the controversy.
You also have the “when did you stop beating your wife, Senator?” effect, wherein the accused is put on a false defensive and has to waste time defending a non issue (like the typical and reflexive liberal “racist,” “bigot,” “sexist” accusations.
I made a small addition to the following (italics):
Just to make sure the message gets out.
I know, it is a rhetorical question, but we all know what he is trying to hide. Let’s have more Wright, Rezko and Ayers ads! You can be sure that the Democrats are not going to pull any punches. We can’t wait until after the election, when it is too late, to get the full Obama story out.
Why?
For the very same reason we needed the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth: to force the media to cover what they would normally bury because of their demonstrated liberal slant.
The Bush/TANG issue was covered for nearly a year (from about February 04, if I recall correctly), but the Swifties and O’Neil’s book “Unfit for Command” had to overcome a media blackout that only ended with well placed ads near the beginning of October.
BO is trying to use the power of the Federal Government to silence critics AND HE ISN’T EVEN IN CONTROL OF DOJ! What horrors will BO unleash on us if he becomes president? Will Gitmo be re-opened for Americans who criticize him or even worse reveal factual information about him? Don’t say, “BO has big ears,” or it’s off to jail for you. Does BO have any friends that don’t hate America and are loyal to the Constitution? When will he start wearing a red beret with the star? BO stinks worse than the Clintons.
Those who can’t handle the truth…
…try to silence those who speak it.
Here is the starkest example of the difference between conservatives and Leftists. If Bush had carried Chris Matthews or the New York Times editors off to Gitmo, I would have thrown my body under the bus to stop it. I’d have taken up arms in the streets to protect the speech of people I strongly disagree with.
When B Hussein pulls the plug on Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News, the Left will cheer.
On August 26th, 2008 at 12:40 am, backwoods conservative said:
Ohhhh, did you send him a nasty-gram, too!? (I did!)
I love what Jason said in one of his videos:
The truth hurts, doesn’t it Barry?
Yep. The left won’t be happy until all of us are rounded up and imprisoned or, preferably, dead.
If you don’t support Obama you’re a racist.
If you don’t support Hillary you’re a sexist.
And if you don’t support a McCain/Romney ticket you’re a bigot.
All three statements are equally stupid.
Only god emperor obamas approved speech only please. You may not say anything the one, god emperor obama (pbuh) disapproves of. Thanks.