Or else what, Michelle?

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 25, 2008 11:10 AM

Quote of the morning:

“You need to celebrate what [Sen. Obama] represents even if you don’t vote for him,” Mrs. Obama says.

– Michelle Obama in an interview aired last night with black network TV One’s Roland Martin.

I need to? Really? Or else what, Michelle?

***

Or else this: Delegate says Jones called her ‘Uncle Tom.’

A black Hillary Clinton delegate on Sunday accused state Senate President Emil Jones of calling her an “Uncle Tom.”

Jones — Barack Obama’s political mentor — denied using the racially loaded slur against Chicago political consultant Delmarie Cobb, but two aldermen who said they witnessed the Saturday night exchange back up Cobb’s account.

“Last night, I was called an ‘Uncle Tom’ by Emil Jones in the lobby of the hotel, right in front of [Ald.] Freddrenna Lyle and [Ald.] Leslie Hairston and [Ald.] Latasha Thomas,” said Cobb, a member of Clinton’s Illinois Steering Committee. “I walked over to him and asked him, ‘What did you just call me?’ ”

The embarrassing flap came on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, which will open tonight with a string of Chicago speakers talking about Obama’s life story. Jones is often referred to as Obama’s “political godfather.”

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Or else…you’re children will be endangered!

Or else…our souls will be forever broken.

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  1. #419705
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:12 am, love2rumba said:

    Aren’t liberals just sweet?

    /sarc

  2. #419710
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:14 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    “You need to celebrate what [Sen. Obama] represents even if you don’t vote for him,” Mrs. Obama says.

    What exactly does The One represent?

    Quickly, someone scale Mt. Hubris and ask The One for guidance and forgiveness.

  3. #419715
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am, CantCureStupid said:

    …which will open tonight with a string of Chicago speakers talking about Obama’s life story.

    That ought to wrap up pretty early, then…

    Let’s celebrate what Mr. Obama represents; socialism, corruption, and a shockingly ignorant chunk of the electorate. Thanks, but I think I’ll pass.

  4. #419717
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am, radio relay said:

    Or else what, Michelle?

    Or else she’ll scream, “racist”!!

    Frickin’ libs never, ever get tired of that card!

  5. #419719
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am, Connie said:

    I heard Juan Williams suggest that she needs to shed the “Militant Michelle” perception during this speech. So she sheds it for an hour, then what?

  6. #419720
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:16 am, jencab said:

    Who the heck does Michelle “For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country” Obama thinks she is?!

  7. #419722
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:16 am, JT said:

    I celebrate when the Messiah loses.

  8. #419723
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:16 am, Misscheryl said:

    Michelle, I’m glad you don’t tolerate racisim, including the black kind.

  9. #419725
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:18 am, ajmontana said:

    “You need to celebrate what [Sen. Obama] represents even if you don’t vote for him,” Mrs. Obama says.

    We plan to! Nov. 5th, after he’s toast.
    Represents??? ha! good one. roflmao

  10. #419730
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:19 am, GaMidnightRider said:

    I hope people see the losers they are going to parade out at this thing. I also hope that the whole thing turns into a riot. I hope the Clinton supporters raise as much he_l as possible to create a glorious mess.

  11. #419733
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am, davidleerothmann said:

    Folks, I’d start stocking up on ammunition. I think Civil War 2 is coming down the pike, and we had better be ready for Obama’s Civilian Security Force making sure you celebrate him. The last couple of leaders to have their own non-military security force, (Stalin, Hitler, Sese-seko, Mugabe, Amin, Pol Pot, etc) haven’t turned out to be so big on the old “Freedom” thing.

  12. #419735
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Roger that JT…

    I’ll celebrate when he is back to being a community organizer never having won the Presidency… and Biden retires from politics attaining no hire office than US Senator.

  13. #419734
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am, BadIdeaGuy said:

    Barack Obama represents a political group who wants to tell me what you “need to do,” how “you should” do things, and that the more government interference is the solution to everyone’s problems.

    I can’t celebrate that.

    What else does he represent? Someone who’s eager to deride the nation that would give him the opportunity to be leader of the (somewhat) free world?

  14. #419736
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am, Marc said:

    I wonder if anyone in the MSM will ask Biden if he harbors ill will toward Michelle Obama because she is a Princeton grad. When Sam Alito was nominated for the USSC, Biden announced at the hearing that Alito was a Princeton man and he (Biden) was a street kid from working class parents who was never treated right by Princeton students and faculty. Of course, that proved to be a lie as a video surfaced of Biden speaking at Princeton and lavishing praise on Princeton University. But I just wonder if anyone will say: “Senator Biden, you said Princeton students and grads were snobs who snubbed you. Does that include Michelle Obama, who went to Princeton (and never tires of bragging about it)?

  15. #419737
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:22 am, englishqueen01 said:

    “You need to celebrate what [Sen. Obama] represents even if you don’t vote for him,” Mrs. Obama says.

    Yes. I need to celebrate a man who represents abortion on demand, up to and including infanticide.

    Yesterday at a function for my parish, a woman showed up with a Barack Obama badge on. I said, loudly enough for her to hear me, “Gee, I had no idea the Catholic Church changed its stance on abortion.”

    I will only celebrate if Obama loses.

  16. #419738
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:22 am, Flyoverman said:

    “und yu vil like it.”

    Wearing my brown shirt all week to celebrate Obama’s definition of free speech.

  17. #419740
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:22 am, jbh45 said:

    …and I thought I left behind the Chicago segregationist dems when I moved out 20 years ago.

    Good grief!

  18. #419741
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:22 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    err… Higher office

    I’m still busy cleaing my monitor.. thnx AJ.

  19. #419743
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Michelle Malkin is Hot, Michelle Obama is Not.

  20. #419744
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am, baxtrice said:

    Help me out Mrs. Obama, you want me to celebrate Socialism and Marxism, even though I don’t support it?! That’s like asking a Christian to celebrate a Satanic holy day..

    I need a stiff drink..

  21. #419745
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:29 am, RedRepub said:

    I have been interviewed by Roland Martin before at WVON Radio in Chicago. I was there to tslk about Condi Rice, but he just wanted to shout me down about Iraq. (And apparently Condi blew up the levees in New Orleans. Did you know that?)

    Anytime he didn’t have a good response to my comments, he shouted “Oh! Oh! Oh!” I don’t know how to spell the sound . It kinda sounded like heartburn.

    I really worked to hold back the “Laugh-In” jokes . (Remember the NBC show “Rowan & Martin’s Laugh In”?)

  22. #419747
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:29 am, Marshall Russ said:

    I’ll bet she’s good at a stare down. Scary.

  23. #419749
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:30 am, beenthere said:

    The expression “Uncle Tom” is not a “racially loaded slur.” It is a political criticism directed against an individual of color who is either a) conservative or perceived as such or b) considered for whatever reason to be insufficiently contemptuous of white people. The proper response is not to report a hate crime, but to do one of the following (pick one):

    * “Excuse me, I don’t know about you, but there are no Thomas Sowell books in my library.”

    * “Forgive me kind sir, but my friends will sign statements that I have never said anything nice about white people. Will your friends do the same, presuming you have any?”

    * “I don’t have to put up with that kind of trash talk, mutha’!” and punch the SOB where it really hurts.

  24. #419755
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:34 am, jbjm said:

    Celebrate what? Amnesty? Higher taxes? Late term abortions? The rising sales of tire gauges?

  25. #419757
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:36 am, iamsaved said:

    I received one of those “articles” that come through the email so frequently (source was omitted) and one comment (among many) succinctly stated
    “The [Democrat's] now have the perfect candidate because they can squash criticism by playing the race card. If you don’t like Obama, or criticize him, you are a racist. They can hide his inexperience and background by turning him into a rock star and singing change and hope. They don’t tell us what kind of change, or how it will be done, only that you should hope for the best. By keeping the hype going they don’t have to put anything of substance on the table.”

    Sounds like MO is touting this change theme without defining what the change is.

  26. #419762
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:39 am, Dan Lee said:

    I didn’t see the actual tape of this yet. Did Michelle Obama do the Jedi mind trick complete with the finger wave at the camera when she said this?

    She really is an all around bonafide creepy person..

  27. #419764
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:39 am, denver republican said:

    Here’s the best part of the original story:

    Mrs. Obama says that it’s truly humbling to be part of the next step in history, and she clearly does recognize that they are part of a historic moment.

    I think she’s confused on what “humble” means.

  28. #419766
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:39 am, ctmom said:

    She really likes to tell people what to do. Wouldn’t you like to be a fly on the wall at the Obama mansion?

  29. #419767
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:40 am, ajmontana said:

    Maybe she meant to celebrate the Big ‘O” Energy Plan….

    Big-0

  30. #419769
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:40 am, SuzEQCitizen said:

    “You need to celebrate what [Sen. Obama] represents even if you don’t vote for him,” Mrs. Obama says.

    I don’t celebrate the representaion of everything I stand against, Michelle O., you freakin’ idiot.

  31. #419770
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:41 am, sonofdy said:

    I am sure there is still room under the bus. The shocks are getting a little worn though.

  32. #419772
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:43 am, Paul Revere said:

    Celebrate that he’s a (half) black guy who can read? Is this supposed to be something no one has seen before? The democrats are treating him like the Loch Ness monster or Big Foot or the Roswell alien. Millions of black men can read! Good god democrats grate my nerves!

  33. #419773
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:43 am, riggword said:

    Michelle Malkin says:
    Quote of the morning:

    “You need to celebrate what [Sen. Obama] represents even if you don’t vote for him,” Mrs. Obama says.

    Oh no!

    Am I suppose to be scared because I don’t “Celebrate Obama”

    I wonder if Michelle also wants us to “Celebrate” Hillary’s fall?

    That I can do!

    Michelle Obama Gets Her Rant Back”

  34. #419774
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:45 am, sonofdy said:

    Vote for Obama or you are a RACIST!!!

    The message is clear, they are trying to say that to be a good person you must vote obama.

    Obama for god president 2016!!!!

  35. #419775
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:45 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Yeah, what exactly does he [The One] represent?

    Still trying to figure that one out.

  36. #419777
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:47 am, tre said:

    Lemme see here, he stands for killing babies, calling babies “punishment”, talking to our enemies, invading allies, calling the woman who raised him a “typical white woman”, identifying himself by the father who abandoned him, not helping a brother who lives on a dollar a month, raising taxes, not drilling for our own oil, gun control, and some other things with which I disagree.

    I don’t see a thing there for me to celebrate.

  37. #419779
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:47 am, MrOlympia said:

    Oh gosh, what could I post that wouldn’t get deleted? I better ZIP IT! lol

    Ok for real now….Michelle did you enjoy that kiss and hug from Joe Biden? AND yo man B Hussein kissed Mrs. Biden, how could you stand for that?

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHH thats right, as long as you and your hubby are going for the Presidency/political office, begging for money for whatever cause, or obtaining power, its ok to play like you love everyone! Its ok to put aside your BLT views that you really believe.

    “My Belle” you are not fooling me. You are full of HATE and RAGE. When your hubby loses you will probably openly aid and abett riots all over this country.

    Whether B Hussein becomes POTUS of not, you two have done more to expose who the real racists in this country are and we will only see more of it….unfortunately.

  38. #419780
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:47 am, WestCoastCoconut said:

    denver republican said:

    Here’s the best part of the original story:

    Mrs. Obama says that it’s truly humbling to be part of the next step in history, and she clearly does recognize that they are part of a historic moment.

    I think she’s confused on what “humble” means.

    I don’t think she know what the word means. Much less how to apply it.

  39. #419782
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:48 am, riggword said:

    They kept Michelle under wraps as long as they could.

    She will not be denied her fifteen months of fame.

    Can you imagine four years of Her Ranting?

    “Michelle Obama Gets Her Rant Back”

  40. #419783
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:48 am, liloleme said:

    Hey Michelle I am black and I do not and will not “celebrate” this farce. This whole thing is just “sickening”.

  41. #419784
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:48 am, Dan Lee said:

    I need..

    Thanks for knowing Michelle..

    I so heart you..

    NOT! :P

  42. #419786
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:49 am, backwoods conservative said:

    I think we’re supposed to celebrate that he represents the SST Party–Surrender, Socialism, and Taxes.

    (Hat tip to Dale in Atlanta over at Hot Air)

  43. #419788
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:50 am, NavyMom said:

    I’m getting awfully tired of this woman and her husband telling me what I “need” to do.

  44. #419791
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:51 am, mogabi said:

    Here is how I am celebrated what Obama represents:

    I raised my right hand up to about ear level and held up my index finger. Then, with a slow circular movement, I began to twirl my finger.

    That was my celebration. It didn’t last long.

  45. #419793
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:54 am, sonofdy said:
  46. #419795
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:54 am, Dan Lee said:

    The only thing I need is extra ammo to protect my family, like davidleerothmann said in post #11..

    Oh & a post card of what the White House used to look like, just in case Obama actually gets elected..

  47. #419796
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:54 am, FruNobulux said:

    davidleerothmann #11, like you obviously were, I was deeply disturbed by Obama’s civilian force, “as well funded as our military is now”, the reference to which was subsequently edited out of his Denver speech. Sounds like another Stasi or KGB to me. It was covered up quickly, and the retards that comprise the vast bulk of the MSM never picked up on it. Still, it was there, and I think it was very very revealing. Jeez, I hope this guy loses; I’d almost rather have the Crocodile Woman!

  48. #419802
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:57 am, CyberCipher said:

    Celebrate His Vacuousness? Sorry. I’d rather stay in-tune with nature.

    My collie says:

    Nature abhors a vacuum, ya’ know.

    Someone tell Ms. Obama to go ahead — play the race card. God has already promised that He will judge her, and her pastor — Rev. Wright, by the words that come out of their own mouths.

  49. #419805
    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:58 am, babbledabble said:

    Sounds like MS Bambi is as power hungry as Pelosi. What a pair! After all. Bambi is going to call on her for advice – isn’t that what he said at Saddleback?

  50. #419807
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, MrScribbler said:

    I know I shouldn’t say this — being a bitter white guy and all — but I believe blacks should be mourning the fact that “their” first presidential candidate is corrupt, inexperienced and surrounded by traitors and criminals.

    Michelle O. “needs” to grow up and wean herself from preferential treatment before she has any right to spew her nonsense.

  51. #419812
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, Jim M. said:

    Celebrate the Second Coming of Jimmy Carter?

    Let’s celebrate looking forward to 11% unemployment, 18% mortgage rates, gasoline shortages, the decimation of our military, the installation of despots in the third world like Mugabe in Zimbabwe, the incubation and hatching of a new religious fanaticism to match the birth of radical Islam, backbreaking federal taxes, and yellow stripes down our backs as the new fashion statement.

    That’s a LOT to celebrate.

  52. #419813
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    I know I shouldn’t say this — being a bitter white guy and all — but I believe blacks should be mourning the fact that “their” first presidential candidate is corrupt, inexperienced and surrounded by traitors and criminals.

    Yeah, but as we all know, liberals would never give a black conservative candidate the kudos s/he deserves.

    Look at how Obama tossed Clarence Thomas under the bus at Saddleback.

  53. #419814
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, riggword said:

    If we celebrate lack of foundational beliefs, defeatism, retreatism, socialism, Abortion, and a candidate who says that he is “A citizen of the World” America is in Trouble.

    Oh, I forgot Michelle and Barack Obama already believe that America is not only in trouble but America causes trouble for the world.

  54. #419815
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, kwyoung said:

    Obama Biden Ladeyin, Global Rockstar

    LIVE concert coming to Denver on the 2008 Deception concert tour, featuring #1 hit “Hopenchange”.

    Admission Price: FREE (but read the very fine print)

  55. #419816
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    “Last night, I was called an ‘Uncle Tom’ by Emil Jones in the lobby of the hotel, right in front of [Ald.] Freddrenna Lyle and [Ald.] Leslie Hairston and [Ald.] Latasha Thomas,” said Cobb, a member of Clinton’s Illinois Steering Committee. “I walked over to him and asked him, ‘What did you just call me?’ ”

    Sooooo…. Emil Jones has an issue with any black person voting for anyone BUT a black person?

    He sounds as racist as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to me.

    And here we are… us dopey gun-clinging, bible-reading conservatives… actually voting based on issues that affect this country and its citizens. What are we thinking???? /sarc off

  56. #419818
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I know I shouldn’t say this — being a bitter white guy and all — but I believe blacks should be mourning the fact that “their” first presidential candidate is corrupt, inexperienced and surrounded by traitors and criminals.

    He doesn’t represent me!!! I believe those who are looking at the elections objectively have already reached this conclusion. However, there are some who will vote Dem no matter how devoid of principles, values, experience, etc., that person is.

  57. #419820
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, Dan Lee said:

    No need to feel bad MrScribber..

    Have you seen the history of politics in Chicago?

    What good thing could come from therein?

  58. #419821
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, guitarplayer said:

    “You need to celebrate what [Sen. Obama] represents even if you don’t vote for him,” Mrs. Obama says.

    Mrs. Obama, what exactly does Barack represent today?

  59. #419823
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, Scooter36 said:

    or else, the rabid geriatric the GOP is trotting around as their candidate (who they don’t really like anyways)will continue the “business as usual” politics in Washington.

  60. #419826
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Continuing on this belief of Emil Jones… that Obama Supporter… since he implies that race should determine who someone votes for… should we all make decisions based on race as he does?

    Should we…

    Hire people based on race?

    Fire people based on race?

    Assist disaster victims based on race?

    Seat people on fronts or back of buses based on race?

    Clearly, that is how he thinks decisions should be made. Based on race. So, in the interest of accommodating his wishes, is this something that needs to be implemented?

    I am of course being sarcastic…

    what a jerk…

  61. #419827
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, travlinman said:

    What Michelle O. and Barack both need to do, is to take a long look in the mirror, and ask themselves how they think that they look like the majority of America.

    Not regarding skin color. But in regard to positions on the U.S. Constitution (2nd Amendment), abortions, lower taxes, less government, free markets, America’s security from terrorists, illegal immigration, patriotism, what constitutes religious expression and conversely where does the line blur toward ‘hate’ speech.

    Their particular views are to be abhorred, not celebrated. And I sure as hell will not vote for the man.

  62. #419840
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, atheling said:

    Michelle Obama is truly a liability.

    She actually makes Hillary look good, and that’s a feat of epic proportions.

  63. #419841
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    Celebrate what he represents? He’s her meal ticket to the A train society set.

    This woman is a snob!

  64. #419842
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, tre said:

    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, 30 pcs of silver
    He doesn’t represent me!!!

    30, I suppose that makes you an “Aunt Tom”. Well, wear that title with pride. Because it means you know how to think for yourself, instead of having the “Black Leaders” tell you what to think.

  65. #419843
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, walterc said:

    davidleerothmann #11,olks, I’d start stocking up on ammunition. I think Civil War 2 is coming down the pike, and we had better be ready for Obama’s Civilian Security Force making sure you celebrate him.

    Along with ammunition, survival supplies.

    If Obama wins, the security forces will come for your guns, and then your money.

    And if he is defeated, the social upheaval in New Orleans will look like a Saturday in Berkely compared to the race riots that will follow.

    Either way, 2009 is going to be a bad year (IMHO).

  66. #419844
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, martin.musculus(jr.) said:

    10 min. lunch break.

    Michelle-O, Jello-O
    Bo Bell-Ows
    Fanana-bana BO Smell-Os
    Takes all your Dough-O
    Michelle-O!

    Michelle-O, Michelle-O
    B-O Bell-Ows
    Vote 4Me! Fell-Ows
    Not Michelle-O!

    nuts, can’t finish typing in.
    Have to get back to work… just paged…

    Somebody finish for me, if you like…

  67. #419848
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, ajmontana said:

    Or else what, Michelle?

    Or else all the Kool-Aid will go to waste.

  68. #419849
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, sonofdy said:

    How dare you insult the wife of the one!!!

    Obama for God Emperor 2008

  69. #419851
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, BemusedLib said:

    I believe that — if you’re not projecting — you’ll find that MO was suggesting that what Obama represents is an America where even someone from a humble, even trying, background, can come to the cusp of the presidency (like, you know, Reagan). This in contrast to the wealthy aristocracy that produced the Bushs and McCain.

  70. #419856
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, ajmontana said:

    Celebrate?
    Oh you mean PARTY!
    Like it’s the first time in our adult lives were proud of America?
    That kind of Celebrate?

  71. #419857
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, atheling said:

    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, BemusedLib said:

    I believe that — if you’re not projecting — you’ll find that MO was suggesting that what Obama represents is an America where even someone from a humble, even trying, background, can come to the cusp of the presidency

    That would only work if Obama was truly qualified for the position.

    He is not. He is Chauncey Gardiner. And for an incompetent to rise to that level is a sad joke, and no reason to celebrate.

  72. #419858
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, Azygos said:

    Jim M

    backbreaking federal taxes,

    You mean the 50% of my paycheck they take now is not back-breaking?

  73. #419861
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, tre said:

    #68 BemusedLib

    You mean the same man who belittled the “bootstrap myth” pulled himself up by his bootstaps?

  74. #419873
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, MtsEdge said:

    What Michelle O. and Barack both need to do, is to take a long look in the mirror, and ask themselves how they think that they look like the majority of America.

    Not regarding skin color. But in regard to positions on the U.S. Constitution (2nd Amendment), abortions, lower taxes, less government, free markets, America’s security from terrorists, illegal immigration, patriotism, what constitutes religious expression and conversely where does the line blur toward ‘hate’ speech.

    Their particular views are to be abhorred, not celebrated.

    Not to mention the fact that they, like all Americans, have benefited greatly from the conservative position on each of those issues. The liberal position only works if you’re the one in power.

    Not ready to celebrate Barack, sorry. I’ll celebrate with the others on Nov. 5, when he winds up on the dust heap of history.

  75. #419874
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, guitarplayer said:

    I believe that — if you’re not projecting — you’ll find that MO was suggesting that what Obama represents is an America where even someone from a humble, even trying, background, can come to the cusp of the presidency (like, you know, Reagan). This in contrast to the wealthy aristocracy that produced the Bushs and McCain.

    You mean the same America that she herself described as a “mean place”. The same American that she’s never been proud of until Barack got the nomination. The same America that was constantly berated by her pastor. That America?

  76. #419876
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, travlinman said:

    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, BemusedLib said:
    I believe that — if you’re not projecting — you’ll find that MO was suggesting that what Obama represents is an America where even someone from a humble, even trying, background, can come to the cusp of the presidency (like, you know, Reagan). This in contrast to the wealthy aristocracy that produced the Bushs and McCain.

    I think you will find out, if you are not an idiot, that BHO did not ascend to the Senate on a shoestring. Do you expect us to believe that this supposedly poor kid fought his way out of poverty to the brink of the presidency on contributions from the little people? Do you have any idea what kind of money it takes to run for the U.S. Senate in a state as large as Illinois? Let alone the Presidency. So let’s project… the masses knew Obama and they saw that he was good. And thus they gave each of their abundance to further his ascention to the lofty place… Hogwash! He is just as beholden, if not more so, to special interests as any other candidate for national office.

  77. #419878
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, Tantor said:

    I’m guessing Obama represents closet socialism. I’m not gonna pop my champagne cork to celebrate that.

  78. #419881
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, Tuesday said:

    What’s to celebrate? Obama recpresents all the wrong ideals.

    Is it true you are infanticipating? Ok, maybe we can celebrate your pregnancy. That is, if you do not mind being saddled with a baby. . . .

  79. #419885
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, davidleerothmann said:

    And if he is defeated, the social upheaval in New Orleans will look like a Saturday in Berkely compared to the race riots that will follow.

    We are well prepared for such things down here in Texas. we may set the criminal element back a few decades if there are riots here. My family is certainly staying in the day after election day, as will many others. In Texas, we can shoot to defend our property as well as our lives.

  80. #419894
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, BemusedLib said:

    You mean the same America that she herself described as a “mean place”.

    You can love your country and still see its faults. To pretend that we don’t have faults is to be willfully blind.

    I think you will find out, if you are not an idiot, that BHO did not ascend to the Senate on a shoestring. Do you expect us to believe that this supposedly poor kid fought his way out of poverty to the brink of the presidency on contributions from the little people?

    You must be some kind of Political Scientists to have discovered that it takes money to get elected! Wow, thanks for the tip. Perhaps next you’ll remind me that, in order to make omelets, a chef must break eggs.

    What I was suggesting, though, is that the United States is a place where (don’t get all cranky about this, it’s just statistics) it’s challenging for people to rise above the social and economic station into which they were born and that race has been a special impediment since the Republic was born. Nonetheless, through grit and determination etc., Obama risen to the point where he may be able to add depth to the old saw that “anyone can grow up to president” — not just white males.

  81. #419896
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, Dan Lee said:

    Tantor said: in post #77
    I’m guessing Obama represents closet socialism. I’m not gonna pop my champagne cork to celebrate that.

    You guessed COOOOOOOOOOrrect!

    Give that poster a prize!

    You’ve just won:
    “Living under communism for Dummies.”

    We’ll all need to read that one.. As well as “Rebelling against a fascist regime for Dummies.”

    Meanwhile, Obama will be reading:

    “Ruling with an Iron Fist, for Pansy Elitists.”

  82. #419898
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:47 pm, ajmontana said:

    A couple days ago my mother said Michelle Odopeyy looked pregnant, now Rush has said the same on his radio show, maybe she can slide into the clinic there in Denver and have it taken care of instead of covering it up. :shock:
    No Odumpy/Bidet 08′

  83. #419900
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:47 pm, Phiber0p said:

    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, walterc said:

    If Obama wins, the security forces will come for your guns, and then your money.

    I can honestly say, where I live, this will come at a very hefty price to his “Security Force” I assure you they will pry mine from my cold dead fingers.

    Simper Fi’

  84. #419903
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    BemusedLib said:

    I believe that — if you’re not projecting — you’ll find that MO was suggesting that what Obama represents is an America where even someone from a humble, even trying, background, can come to the cusp of the presidency (like, you know, Reagan). This in contrast to the wealthy aristocracy that produced the Bushs and McCain.

    Ummmm…. no. That’s not it.

    Because we know that were it not for the corrupt political machine in Chicago, Obama would still be a community organizer.

    Celebrate what her represents? That would be some sort of philsophical moving target. He represents whatever he and his handlers think will get him elected. Nothing more.

    He’s a cardboard representation of someone with principles.

  85. #419904
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    LOL Dan Lee.

  86. #419905
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, Marc said:

    Barack Obama arranges for a nice earmark for the University of Chicago Hospital. Then Mrs. Obama gets a hefty raise to over $300,000.00 to a job of “diversity director”. Mrs. Obama is not a doctor or a hospital administrator or even a nurse. What on earth does the University of Chicago Hospital need to spend $300.00+ dollars on? Obviously it a nice thank you to Barack for the earmark and and a nice way of telling Barack to remember us next year also.

  87. #419907
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:51 pm, shooter said:

    “…but she says her daughters are at the heart of the reason she decided to support his desire to pursue public office — because she recognized that through politics he could make a better world for them.”

    Good grief, he couldn’t even make Chicago better.

    Terrorists, felons and infanticide?
    How, Michelle “the bitter, unhappy, mean” Obama, just HOW will that help the world?

  88. #419915
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, fluffy said:

    When I hear the word celebrate, that’s when I reach for my revolver.

  89. #419918
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, guitarplayer said:

    You can love your country and still see its faults. To pretend that we don’t have faults is to be willfully blind.

    Sure America has it’s faults. No one can deny that. But to go as far as she did and say it’s a “mean place” is completely wrong.

    What I was suggesting, though, is that the United States is a place where (don’t get all cranky about this, it’s just statistics) it’s challenging for people to rise above the social and economic station into which they were born and that race has been a special impediment since the Republic was born.

    Again, wrong. My parents came to the US in 1956. They had about $10 in their pocket, a suitcase full of clothes and didn’t even speak the language. They now own their home free and clear, both their cars, and have plenty to retire on. They could’ve had even more, but they saved to help me get a start when I moved out. So, I don’t buy that argument for a minute. Anyone born in the US has already started in a better position than my parents did. The opportunity is there for anyone to achieve whatever goals they want. They just need to get off their butts and do it.

  90. #419920
    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, Dan Lee said:

    Michelle Obama confuses “mean” with “not easily manipulated.”

  91. #419930
    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, sambo said:

    ajmontana said:
    A couple days ago my mother said Michelle Odopeyy looked pregnant, now Rush has said the same on his radio show, maybe she can slide into the clinic there in Denver and have it taken care of instead of covering it up.

    Whats the hurry. She still has a good ten or eleven months.

  92. #419932
    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, Paul-Cincy said:

    On August 25th, 2008 at 11:14 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    What exactly does The One represent?

    He represents himself. You should support whatever he says. That’s how a cult of personality works.

  93. #419933
    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, atheling said:

    On August 25th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, BemusedLib said:

    You mean the same America that she herself described as a “mean place”.

    You can love your country and still see its faults. To pretend that we don’t have faults is to be willfully blind.

    Calling your country a “mean place” is hardly constructive criticism. It’s schoolyard rhetoric.

    No one here pretends that we don’t have faults. But we also love our country. A Jesuit priest once defined love as seeing the good in the other. I have yet to find a liberal who sees any good in America. I suppose with that definition of love, we can say that the definition of hate is never seeing the good in the other. And liberals never see the good in America.

    What I was suggesting, though, is that the United States is a place where (don’t get all cranky about this, it’s just statistics) it’s challenging for people to rise above the social and economic station into which they were born and that race has been a special impediment since the Republic was born. Nonetheless, through grit and determination etc., Obama risen to the point where he may be able to add depth to the old saw that “anyone can grow up to president” — not just white males.

    You have a myopic view of the world and human nature, as well a failure to observe empirical evidence.

    Being stuck in a class or economic stratum is not restricted to “since the Republic was born”. Indeed, the Republic was established to escape that fate which predominated Europe and the rest of the world. Why do people emigrate to America? To avoid being stuck in an immobile economic or class system.

    Clarence Thomas is a perfect example of what you’re talking about. But of course, since he’s conservative, you willfully blind yourself to that fact.

  94. #419935
    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, ajmontana said:

    Birds of a feather
    No Odumpy/Bidet 08′

  95. #419936
    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, Dan Lee said:

    BemusedLib said: (#79)

    You can love your country and still see its faults. To pretend that we don’t have faults is to be willfully blind.

    What I was suggesting, though, is that the United States is a place where (don’t get all cranky about this, it’s just statistics) it’s challenging for people to rise above the social and economic station into which they were born and that race has been a special impediment since the Republic was born.

    Nonetheless, through grit and determination etc., Obama risen to the point where he may be able to add depth to the old saw that “anyone can grow up to president” — not just white males.

    This is such BS.. I grew up poor enough to have to walk with my mother a couple miles to help her bring back Powerdered milk & Government cheese for our family to survive on every week. My fornt steps/foyer were an office for local prositutes. I don’t remember hearing about Barack Obama living that way though..

    Both my parents were on disability for seperate medical conditions, & we lived off of food stamps because we had to for a while, but I was determined to take my good health, & my brain, & become reliant on God & myself as an adult. I did that.. I’m very successful now. Are you telling me that’s only because I’m white?

    Because if you are, you’re pond scum.
    I see blacks driving BMWs & Hummers here in Tennessee, so quit your lying whining BS, & vote for someone based on their performance. Be honest about something important for once in your life! Obama has no experience to speak of, & Biden was brought on to his campaign to prop him up, because he’s sinking in the polls like someone tied a millstone around his neck engraved with his accomplishments.. It was a quick & inexpensive engraving job, let me assure you..

  96. #419941
    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, travlinman said:

    …What I was suggesting, though, is that the United States is a place where (don’t get all cranky about this, it’s just statistics) it’s challenging for people to rise above the social and economic station into which they were born and that race has been a special impediment since the Republic was born. Nonetheless, through grit and determination etc., Obama risen to the point where he may be able to add depth to the old saw that “anyone can grow up to president” — not just white males.

    That old saw about growing up to be President went out the window somewhere around the end of the 19th century. When we see a person of any color work to get educated, learn their craft and rise thru the system in a nominal manner, then we will have a success story. Obama is a clean and articulate ‘Black’ man (Biden’s words, not mine) who was chosen and then groomed for a spot in national politics. He did not have to sweat for anything. To my knowledge he has never even worked at a real job in his life. How then is he the voice of the common man?

  97. #419944
    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:19 pm, travlinman said:

    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, atheling said:

    Post #92, Well said. Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas are damn good examples of non-wealthy Americans (of color, at that) who have risen from their surroundings and made good in national politics. Of course, since they are conservative, they do not count.

  98. #419945
    On August 25th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, Dan Lee said:

    travlinman wrote:
    Obama is a clean and articulate ‘Black’ man (Biden’s words, not mine) who was chosen and then groomed for a spot in national politics. He did not have to sweat for anything. To my knowledge he has never even worked at a real job in his life. How then is he the voice of the common man?

    Exactly my point. I have plenty of really good black friends. They all have real jobs, & know what it means to suffer general adversity. Obama is not worthy to walk even in the shadow of any of them..

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