Fighting back against Obama’s thugs
Here is the ad Barack Obama doesn’t want you to see. Pass it on.
I cannot stress how outrageous the Obama campaign’s attempt to silence the creators of the Ayers ad is. Mr. Hope and Change is applying Chicago-style mafia tactics to intimidate those who want to alert the nation to Obama’s troubling ties to, and longtime relationship with, the unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist. Obama’s lawyers and minions are playing hardball with TV stations that have dared to air the ad. They have the gall to champion campaign finance integrity — even as Obama has just admitted hiding payments to his Chicago cronies at ACORN. The Obama campaign can’t cite anything false or defamatory about the ad because it is accurate and truthful. This intimidation campaign is of a piece with the left-wing MoveOn effort to bully GOP donors. Remember?
I’ve just obtained the response of the group running the ads that Obama doesn’t want you to see:
American Issues Project Responds to Obama Campaign’s Efforts to Compel TV Stations, Government to Censor Ad
Obama team fails to convince stations to kill ad in spite of threats, harassment and false claims
Washington, DC – August 26, 2008 – The Barack Obama campaign has resorted to a campaign of intimidation and legal threats to convince television stations and the federal government to force off the air an ad by the American Issues Project detailing the link between Sen. Obama and remorseless domestic terrorist William Ayers.
The Obama campaign has been contacting stations running American Issues Project’s ad in an unsuccessful attempt to compel them to pull the spot. The Obama campaign also sent a letter yesterday to the Department of Justice asking the government to investigate American Issues Project, its officers, board of directors, and donors. With no success on either front, the campaign has begun running its own ad in response. Notably, this ad fails to dispute a single fact in the American Issues Project’s initial ad.
“The Obama campaign knows it can’t argue the facts of the link between Obama and Ayers, so it is instead resorting to a desperate campaign of intimidation and legal threats,” said Ed Martin, American Issues Project’s president. “The scary question this raises is if Barack Obama demonstrates this little regard for free speech from his opponents during the campaign, what could the American people expect from him as a president?”
“The tremendous amount of time, money and effort the campaign is expending to run its own ads on the Ayers controversy and dispatch its hired guns all over the country – during the Democratic convention – speaks to the fear they must have that this issue is resonating with American voters.”
American Issues Project sent a letter today to the Department of Justice responding to the Obama campaign’s claims. Key points from the letter:
AIP is organized as a qualified nonprofit corporation as that term is defined in the regulations of the Federal Election Commission (“FEC”) 11 C.F.R. §114.10. As such, AIP enjoys the protections of the provisions of the Supreme Court’s decision more than twenty years ago in FEC v. Massachusetts Citizens for Life, Inc., 589 F. Supp. 646 (D. Mass. 1984), aff’d, 769 F.2d 13 (1st Cir. 1985), aff’d, 479 U.S. 238 (1986)…
AIP complies with each and every one of the provisions outlined by the Supreme Court in the MCFL case, as well as the regulations of the FEC promulgated subsequently…
Counsel for the Obama Campaign is undoubtedly fully knowledgeable of the reporting and compliance responsibilities of qualified nonprofit corporations, such as NARAL-Pro Choice America (“NARAL”), an organization that, ironically, also claims protection as an entity described in Massachusetts Citizens for Life v. FEC…
AIP functions in exactly the same manner as NARAL and any other qualified nonprofit corporation. NARAL has made substantial independent expenditures in opposition to Sen. McCain’s presidential candidacy during the 2008 election cycle and continuing through the present time. Yet, no objection to those expenditures has been raised by the Obama campaign…
Surely we have not come to a point where the government and its agencies are used to protect presidential candidates from citizens’ speech, essentially destroying the very purpose, meaning and historical essence of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
The full text of the letter is available at: http://www.americanissuesproject.org/
The American Issues Project’s ad began airing Thursday, August 21, and will continue through the Democratic Convention. An electronic version of the ad and full documentation of all statements made are available at American Issues Project’s website: www.americanissuesproject.org.
About American Issues Project
American Issues Project is a 501(c)4 organization representing a coalition of conservative activists committed to raising important issues that deserve deeper examination given their impact on policy and politics. In accordance with federal law, American Issues Project only solicits and accepts contributions from individuals and not from any business corporation. For more information, visit: www.americanissuesproject.org.
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Spread the ad far and wide. Will they come after bloggers next?
Shut us up?
No, they can’t.
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You know, I don’t understand why they want this and other ads like it silenced either. frankly, I personally think the more it is exposed about how friendly he is with these Liberal Terrorists who like to bomb things such as the Pentagon and the Capitol, who like to kill cops and all things that represent goodness and America would actually increase his following.
Come on…we have all seen these videos of the thugs “protesting” over at the DNC. We have all heard their chantings. We all saw Alex Jones completely lose his freaking little mind, turning beet red with all his filth and bile spewing forth as he yelled and screamed at Michelle Malkin, a woman half his size, and we heard the calls for murder that accompanied it.
Does anyone think that these Liberals are appalled by the actions of Ayers? Does anyone really think that these Liberals do not agree with him that they “Didn’t do enough”? If anything, I would think it might actually improve his standing with any of these hippie freethinkers wandering around the country.
How many of them that are there today are not thinking or wishing they could do the same? how many of them are actually planning similar acts RIGHT NOW.
Now for the bigger question. How many people think that Obumble is working with them to do what they attempted back then but decided to change tactics and work at it from the inside? Grooming the perfect, clean cut looking, charismatic person to be elected only to accomplish what they could not do with force?
Sorry to sound like a Libby Conspiracy nut, but think about it. Just think about it.
Then why this tatic? Why doesn’t he just come out sue for libel and defamation? We’ll get all the facts out in an open court.
A passing acquaintance. Really?
How many acquaintances do you know who help launch political careers in their own homes?
Fox News just discussed the links between obh and Ayers. Looks like the Annenberg papers have been released and are being looked at by the press.
No, the John Kerry candidacy was irreparably harmed by lies broadcast by John Kerry and perpetuated by the MSM.
BemusedLib: If that is true they what not refute the ad instead of trying to supress speach and hide records?
You point doesn’t ad up.
BTW BemusedLib, its 2008 not 2004. Kerry is not running. Do keep up.
Care to regale us with what exactly were the ‘lies’ of the SBVT.
Or are DNC talking points all you have?
What lies? I’m still waiting for John Kerry to dispute the facts put forth just like he promised to do after the election. I do believe a million dollars is riding on that.
The ad doesn’t say they are “best buddies”, but it does call into question his relationship with Ayers over the past several years. Would you even be an “aquaintance” with someone who proudly declared war against America and who by any simple definition is a terrorist?
Your statement is so silly it really doesn’t deserve a reply…but
John took up the million dollar challenge and still hasn’t disproved one fact!
you mean that he’s trying to hide his ‘relations’ with Bill Ayers.
Who said it’s not legal to pimp around with a domestic terrorist? glad to see that you admit that if his ‘relations’ with Aryes were known it would hurt his percieved character.
Because once a lie gets rooted, it’s damn hard to dig it up. You have to hit back fast, hard, with everything you’ve got to keep it from getting planted. This ain’t pinochle.
What’s the old saying? “A lie can go halfway around the World before truth gets its pants on.”
Who was it that offered a $1 million dollar reward to anyone that could prove that anything the swiftboaters charged was a lie? You’d think if their “lies” were so obvious and numerous, and with a million bucks for motivation, someone would have nailed ‘em by now, hmmm?
On the other hand, didn’t Kerry himself promise to release some document a few years back to refute the “swiftboaters”? Still no sign of it. Maybe he just forgot.
Maybe it wasn’t seared-seared into his memory like his service in Cambodia.
tomk59
It was T. Boone Pickens. funny!
I just caught up with the Alex Jones deal.
Why is that man not in jail over this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DoxqvqjxM
Assault, terroristic threats, stalking, false imprisomment…just for starters.
The man needs a good old fashioned Texas ass kicking.
Then take it court and make lots of noise about it. The fawning MSM would be more than happy to cover the court case and make non-stop noise if Obama wins.
The only reason to use a tactic like this is if they have something to hide.
That is not true and I doubt you believe it; but that never stopped a Liberal before. I had two tours in Viet Nam -Infantry- and know at least as much about the war as that gutless, LYING CLOWN.
For his lying testimony before the HalfBrite Committee may he burn. And his defenders have my permission to hold his hand through all eternity. That would be you BemusedLib.
Yet, you’ve still haven’t pointed out where the lie is… we’re waiting with baited breath.
Let me ask again, BM.
WHAT. WERE. THE. LIES???
Who said this:
If you guessed Steve Hayes, a founder and former member of the Swift Boaters, you win a shiny nickel!
Fact is there is a lot of dispute and evidence on both sides with respect to the Swift Boat claims. Certainly enough such that it is laughable to assert with any sort of legitimacy that their allegations were proven true.
What lie?
In my opinion, the ad in question is superbly done. Flinchy has a tough road ahead.
The Democratic Convention is so thin in substance that Flinchy just cant ignore the ad and let his aura carry him through the next few weeks.
And the MSM will help poke a hole in Flinchy’s hot gas balloon by continuing to make reference to Obama’s response to the ad- in order to paint him as some kind of tough Chicago politician. But he is a milque toast. So he’ll defeat himself by whining about why a “God-sent” savior of America (thank you Chris “No Ball” Matthews) shouldn’t have to be persecuted.
The Nanny Lawyers to the rescue. I am sure the 93,000 faxes were all originals. Anyone can manufacture a fax bomb.
Sinclair is lovin it. Listening audience is up. LMAO
Keep strugglin, Flinchy. The knot in your belly is only getting tighter. Do the Democrats know Flinchy is a chain smoker? That should cost him some Messiah points among the liberal secularist cult of GoreDough-We-Are-All-Going-To-Die-For-Your-Carbon-Sins.
Headline: Flinchy Binghole Contributes To Global Warming Cuz He Smokes.
Let the unravelin begin.
If by dispute, you mean Liberals that screamed that thew SBVT were lying and were unable to prove anything they said was a lie, then you would be right.
What would it take for you to finally admit that the SBVT were telling the truth and that John Kerry was lying, Chap? And are you willing to take up our challenge to BM and tell us what the SBVT were lying about?
AGAIN, its 2008 not 2004
The lie is that he’s a good friend and close associate with Bill Ayers, and that, as such, he has endorsed violence against the U.S.
AN: I respect your service, but I respect John Kerry’s, too. That he was smeared in the service of a draft-dodging clown makes it worse.
And T Boone Pickens reneged on his deal on a cheap technicality.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/t-boone-pickens-says-no-deal/
It’s telling that Obummer is not going after McCain for “Keating”. Why? Because McCain pre-empted such an effort years ago, by repenting completely about Keating.
Conversely, Obummer and crew seem totally unprepared to deal with the obvious exposures of Rezco, Wright, & Ayers. Knowlege that such attacks would be forethecoming is part of Politics 101.
If Obummer’s *plan* was to go running directly to Government to help him “eradicate false ads off the air” as soon as they appeared, then that speaks quite poorly of his “maturity” under pressure.
On the other hand, if there was no “plan” to deal with such events, then that speaks equally poorly of Obummer’s executive skills.
I didn’t say it was a lie.
Steve Hayes, co-founder and former member of Swift Boat Veterans, did.
Liberal melt down in 3, 2, 1…
Speaking of lies…
You said “Certainly enough such that it is laughable to assert with any sort of legitimacy that their allegations were proven true.” So if it is not true, then it’s a lie.
And what was the “it” Hayes was talking about, because that seems ambiguous.
So Chap, would you believe John Kerry if he said the SBVT were telling the truth?
What a drama queen
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This has been backed up.
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The ad never claimed that obama endorsed violence against the usa. I said he had bad judgement for hanging arround with some one who did. So in fact you just lied.
Your complaining about swift boating and about the Ayres add and come up with:
That he was smeared in the service of a draft-dodging clown makes it worse.
I thinks your hurting your own cause!
I said “proven” true. Something can be not proven true (as opposed to proven not true) and still not be a lie if there is insufficient or conflicting information.
Well, considering he subsequently gave and interview that apparently corroborated Kerry’s version of the incident, I would say “it” was referring to the Swift Boater’s account of the same.
So are you saying that Obama is not a friend of Ayers and has no association with him?
If that’s true, Obama needs to sue the people that put the ad out for defamation. He’ll get plenty of press coverage and the truth will finally get out. I’m sure all the papers that the University of Illinois at Chicago has lock and key will help to clear this all up.
The link…
http://swiftvets.com/swiftvetsandpows/
Honorable men.
Honest questions.
No answers from Kerry, only attacks on these men.
Those who can’t handle the truth try to silence those who speak it.
Hit the submit button too fast:
I’m sure all the papers that the University of Illinois at Chicago has under lock and key will help to clear this all up.
Saw this ad over at Rantburg, and a few other blogs as well. Its starting to spread.
Oh, I’m so wounded, cut to core, devatstated….
OK, how’s: “get there fustest with the mostest?”
More to the point, moving rapidly and decisively — something the Republicans do well — is important in politics. I expect McCain’s team will do the same when the time arises.
It is very telling that you continue to rely on ‘it’ to make your point, yet refuse to offer any examples of the SBVT supposed lies.
And you must have missed the question I asked, since you didn’t answer it. “Would you believe John Kerry if he said the SBVT were telling the truth?”
I’m not familiar with the term. Please clarify.
Or you could just stop being a drama queen and give us some examples of the SBVT supposed lies.
And yet, all Kerry has/had to do was release his full, unexpurgated military/medical records, as he promised to the late Tim Russert, to put the “lie” to rest and he would be president today.
He never did. Oh sure, he released some selected items to a friendly press, but never the whole thing. He could have picked up a cool million to boot!
Yet he never did, and refuses to do so to this day. This denial is tacit proof that Kerry is the liar, not the Swiftboat Vets.
Why only Mr. Hayes?
Yet Bush did it. And McCain. And Dole.
So what is stopping him now? He has plenty of money and time. Doesn’t he want the satisfaction of being proven to have told the truth?
You mean the papers UC just agreed to release? You know, and we libs are just as bad as conservatives on this, sometimes things are kept secret for perfectly legitimate reasons. Cindy McCain’s tax records, anyone?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-obama-records,0,7750626.story
Guitarplayer,
The University agreed to release those docs three days ago.
If I thought Obama would be that heavy handed in dealing with the Iranians I might actually consider voting for him. I think we all know what the odds of that are.
Sorry. The quotes were from the NYTimes, http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/washington/28kerry.html?pagewanted=print
Oh please…more high drama instead of answering the question – what Lies?
I was just trying to spell it how old Nathan Bedford Forrest mighta said it.
but have they released them??? this sounds a lot like kerry’s ‘I’ll release my medical records’ and never quite getting around to it…
If there were a “perfectly legitimate reason” to keep these records then maybe they shouldn’t have been donated to a public freaking library.
Meaningless, completely inapplicable comparison, anyone?
Not sure, but Kurtz seems to have stopped yapping about it, so I assume they must not be stonewalling.
On August 26th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, BemusedLib said:
And sometimes they are kept secret for nefarious reasons. They are public records though, and should never have been held up. Who knows if they were “Bergerized” by now?
Of what consequence are Cindy McCain’s tax records? Is she running for office? If not, you have no more business seeing her tax returns than you have seeing mine, or me seeing yours. Did you ask Teresa Heinz Kerry the same question?
Ayers is obviously obama’s kind of people…who wouldn’t want to hang around with an ex-terrorist(?) wacko weather underground type of guy?
I’m sure its almost as much fun as hanging out with Dr. Zawahiri…
I first noticed the ad here in SW Ohio on USA Network this past Sunday. It’s a great ad. Brutal truth; nothing like it. After detailing Ayers’s un-American conduct, the ad draws the clear connection to Obama. How can Obama possibly explain a relationship with a terrorist that is so intimate that the terrorist helped Obama kick off his political career? Any American knows that neither Obama nor Ayers would have been involved in such a kickoff if they were mere passing acquaintances. These guys are dear friends.
yeah the press got real quiet after kerry said he’d release his records, but he never did…
Bemused & Chap,
That’s a step in the right direction.
Again, I ask, why not just take this to court? Think of the publicity Obama would get if he wins. Why resort to this tactic that 1) makes it look like he trying to hide something, 2) makes him look scared, and 3) has all the appearance of wanting to turn the government against free speech?
As for the wives of the candidates, I have to admit I’m a bit torn about the realease of tax statements by them. They’re not the ones running for office so I don’t think that they should have to.
If Hillary would have filed a separate return from Bill and Bill did not release his, the assumption here would have been that they are hiding something.
Bull, but keep repeating it and you may convince yourself.
Probably. But again, she was not the candidate then. I don’t see why she should have to.
Chap, was my question to hard. Maybe I was being unreasonable to ask you to back up the obvious BS you were spouting?
Are you even going to try to answer my question?
No. Talking about when she was running this year. I actually recall there being a of of talk about how the Clintons might do this.
I liked this comment from AT.
Quote from ItookTheRedPill:
That is the MO of communists, of which many social/democrats are IMO.
What obvious BS? I never made any claims as to the veracity of the swiftboaters accusations. I pointed out that there was clearly enough dispute and evidence about the issue that it is absurd to simply claim that what the swiftboaters said was “true.” It is a subtle, but important, distinction.
Sorry. I misunderstood.
As a former president, he should release them if only to eliminate any suspicions of wrongdoing. It would have only served to help Hillary. Should he have to release them? No. He is not the candidate.
You may consider it subtlety to say that SBVT were liars, but that is the BS is was mentioning.
And the question I asked TWICE which you have ignored TWICE is “Would you beleive the SBVT were telling the truth if John Kerry said it?”
Puts on drama queen hat: “what’s Cindy hiding? Ties to corporations that will benefit from McCain’s health care plan? Investments in overseas sweat shops? $3.5 million in Iraqi exile cash? And out of court settlement for a crime committee by John? She must be hiding something, or she would have released them.”
It’s an easy game to play. Raise suspicion and then assume that a legitimate privacy right is actually a sinister cover-up.
And I kind of think spouses should reveal — Ds and Rs — if candidates do. If there’s something nefarious going on, there’s no real line of separation between husband and wife.
Cheers
11 Dec 1968 entry in John Kerry’s diary:
The ‘action’ for his first Purple Heart occurred 2 Dec 1968.
Who’s lying?
Still cannot come up with a single example os a supposed ‘lie’ told by the SBVT.
Thank you for plainly admitting what an idiot you are, BM!
Ohhhh….I feel a set up coming on!
Yes. If John Kerry said that the swiftboater’s version of the story was completely accurate, I would believe him, and by extension, them.
You can keep saying I called them liars. But it doesn’t make it any more true by mindlessly repeating it.
I said that the veracity of their account has not been proven true. Doesn’t mean its not true, just that it hasn’t been proven.
Not a setup, Chap, a simple question. Why were you so afraid to answer it.
Oh, see Dexter’s post above for the answer. Thanks for posting that Dexter.
See, there is a way to prove the SBVT were actually telling the truth. No subtlety needed.
Give us one example.
I feel your pain, StanW. I’m not getting an answer to my question.
Don’t see what the big deal is. I’m not trying to set anyone up.
The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the – Web Reconnaissance for 08/26/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.
John “Clean the Candleabra” Kerry is a complete joke- always was and always will be. He couldn’t beat Bush but was presumed the superior “man” because of his ketchup bride’s fortune and his bicycle shorts. And he too had ZERO credentials on anything stately or remotely resembling an executive profile.
His war record will always be suspect because he doesnt know how to clean anything cept the dripping wax from his melting mug.
I don’t get the penchant to re-hash old news and take the focus off of Flinchy Binghole, the next Democratic Biggest Loser.
He is off to a flying start at the DNConvention by putting “Mike” at the mic speaking about LORD KNOWS WHAT.
And then there is Caroline Kennedy having a complete psychotic break selling out her own Dead Kennedy Papi by proclaiming that Flinchy and Uncle Safe Driver Ted were the “two men who changed her life most”.
Are you kidding me? She got picked to head the search team that belched out Joe BidenMyTime as a running mate on a ticket that hasnt even been nominated yet. Lawdy. All in a month’s work!
Notice how quiet the “His Panic” community has been during this freak show? LMAO That flushing sound is the noise they have made slinking out of the country, or losing their butts in the “Housing Crisis”, or just bein hoppin mad because BroomHildaBeast dint get coronated last spring as anticipated.
Flinchy can kiss that vote guh-bye!
Flinchy’s big problem is that because he squeaked thru the primaries giving speeches to teenagers and ripping off Marvin Gaye, he now has to fry every fish that flops all over his fomentous foppery as frontrunner.
(Did i say this out loud?) :LOL:
Bear1909 out
BL said:
I’m counting on it.
Thanks for the acknowledgement and compliment.
‘Preciate it.
Because he is not primarily interested in them being found guilty of a crime or tort, even if they are. He is interested in getting the ads pulled as soon as possible.
Yet that is exactly what you and others on the Left have done since the SBVT came into the picture.
They are liars! What they said isn’t true. What they said can’t be proven.
Yet no one has been able to prove that anything they said was a lie. Not only that, but John Kerry changed his story on three issues because of what the SBVT said. His first Purple Heart was but one of the Kerry lies the SBVT put aside.
The SBVT put out the truth and all the Left as been able to do is mindlessly repeate “LIAR”. And you are the perfect example of it!
So? Oklahoma City was 13 years ago. Are either less reprehensible because of when they happened? Ayers was simply an incompetent TM. Obama’s judgement is in question here.
Seeing as she was only six at the time of her father’s death I doubt she has much memory of him nor had he much of an opportunity to change her life.
I am trying to track down the report to see if it was released.
As I recall, the reason Kerry did not win the election is for the same reason Obama won’t – they are idiots and the more TV time, etc. they get reflects this fact. Eventually, the majority see enough to know they aren’t presidential material.
I asked you if you would accept the word of John Kerry that the SBVT were telling the truth. Are you running away from that already, Chap?
What are you talking about? I answered that above.
Yes, and when I pointed out that Kerry has in fact proven that the SBVT were telling the truth about him, you posted some unsubstantiated story about Pickens and some veterans.
The SBVT told the truth and Kerry admitted it. Now you need to admit you were wrong and move on.
Probably because it wasn’t said that way. When asked how he won so many engagements with the enemey, Nathan Bedford Forrest once replied, “Get there first with the most men”.
It has been slaughtered over the years to either intentionally make him sound like an uneducated hick, or because those who heard it and passed it on simply didn’t know any better.
From a military philosophy of “get there the first with the most men” we get people who claim it is “firstest with the mostest”. It shows an ignorance of history and one of histories greatest military commanders.
By the way, contrary to his stated philosophy of getting there the first with most men, Forrest almost always faced overwhelming odds.
Despite all that, I am not sure what it has to do with this particular thread. More ignorance I suppose?
I would tend to agree….now what do you think about Michelle (my bell) and her raise after barack became senator? and her little scheme to deny the poor treatment at her hospital?
No. You pointed out evidence which corroborates one aspect of one claim they made against Kerry. Good job. But, even taking as gospel truth that they proved Kerry lied about that one incident, that does little, if anything to substantiate any other claims made, does it?
John Kerry had a chance to go to civil court over the issue and he didn’t. Funny thing about court is, is that you have to prove your case before a jury. Depositions have a way of weeding out truth from hearsay. And, when you testify in court you’re under oath and can be cross examined by the other side. What a concept.
Aren’t we all still waiting for this?
I fail to understand why this sort of thing even shocks us anymore. The left is consistent in it’s censorship.
Of course while too busy playing the victim card and singing kumbayah, they fail to understand their own hypocrisy.
Goose. Gander. I’m all ears on this one.
Apparently they have it and sent it to Pickens. I have been trying to find if they just went ahead and released the report after being rebuffed by Pickens, but haven’t been able to find it yet.
It is much more substantial that your claim that Hayes dismissed everything the SBVT claimed by saying ‘it’.
The point here is twofold.
1) I can prove using John Kerry’s own words that several of the things the SBVT claimed were 100% true; while you can not point to a single solitary examples of anything said by the SBVT as being a lie.
2) You are too petty and too much of a liberal hack to admit you are wrong. Says a lot about your lack of character.
Free speech to liberals means you can say whatever they agree with.
The MSM won’t air the commercial, but you can bet your arse that they would if it were about McCain. Kudos to the outlets that have the integrity and courage to air it.
Again, and I will refrain from using nasty language here, I did not claim Hayes proved Kerry right or proved the swift boaters liars. I said that it was compelling evidence that the issue was still open. If you cannot grasp that please go back to school and learn how to read what is actually written instead of projecting your own biases on what you think I should have written.
Obama is part of the international socialist thug-o-cracy that contains folks like Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. Americans elect him and his radical followers at peril to us all.
By the way, I worked with a Swift Boat Vet and read what he said about Kerry. In terms of credibility and courage, the overwhelming weight of evidence goes with the astoundingly courageous river warrior. There is no question that Kerry is nothing more than a self-serving politician and a classic example of why the Democrat Party is so dangerous. If Republicans (RINOs) would stop trying to be like Democrats, the country would move to the right where individual rights are respected and government is put in its proper place.
I had to ask you a simple question three time before you were shamed into answering it. You claimed it was not possible to prove the SBVT as truth. Then I did and you still were not satisfied, nor were you able to admit that you were wrong about the issue and about the brave men of the SBVT. You even tried to claud the issue with Hayes and his ‘it’, as well as your unsubstantiated story about Pickens.
And the you have the gall to lecture me reading comprehension?
You were WRONG, Chap. I proved it using your criteria. And still you whine. My appraisial of your character was correct!