GOP platform fight over shamnesty euphemisms
The good news: There are Republicans battling proactively to stamp out open-borders euphemisms like “comprehensive immigration reform.”
The bad news: There are Republicans battling defensively to keep open-borders euphemisms for shamnesty in the GOP vocabulary. And they’re on the side of Hispandering John McCain. And they won.
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The pandering to La Raza is what makes me sick.
Do they have plans yet on incorporating the Indians and Chinese into their “one race” as well? That’s over 2 billion people they are leaving out if not.
Or, do they just want the Anglo-Saxons gone?
Oops. That wasn’t politically correct….
We do not need amnesty. Secure the border NOW. Or are these guys getting paid by the cartels?
Like that scam artist T.Boone said about he and McAmnesty… “We are too old and won’t have to worry about it.”
McAmnesty just wants to be president, he doesn’t care about this country.
My wife and I play the game “spot the white person” when we are driving here in Southern California… it is not easy to do.
I just need to keep telling myself “Obama is much worse! Obama is much worse!” or else I will not be able to vote for McCain. As it stands now, it pains me to think of voting for McCain even though I KNOW that Obama is much worse.
I am sick of RINOS trying to sell America to Mexico.
They’re on the beach in shorts and wing-tip shoes…
gee whiz rob, pin the tale on the cracker is fun at birthday parties also.
Your party has abandoned you. Amnesty and global warming have become GOP planks.
Vote Libertarian.
After much debate the amendment was not adopted and the language will remain as, “We oppose amnesty” without a mention of comprehensive immigration reform.
Did I miss something.. This is what they will say.
English the “accepted” language instead of :
English the “OFFICIAL” language>>>>
We need a NEW PARTY>>>>>>>>>
lol Aloha guy, don’t forget the dark socks.
Why wont these politicians pander to AMERICANS for a change???
Another option come November. Vote McCain to block Obama, and as soon as McCain wins, impeach him for treason – it is our Constitutional Right and our DUTY as Americans to do so.
And why in the hell does D.C. have delegates?
The r Party is now-according to MY OFFICIAL language
the DHIMMI party!!!!!
Fox news reports approx. 600 illegals have been taken into custody in Mississippi – to the cheers of the other workers at the plant.
Feel The Pain Of Voting McCain!
The knife at your throat is cap and trade, the one in your back is amnesty.
Sorry, just can’t do it.
Politicians know a significant number of the electorate want secured borders, but they do next to nothing to make it happen, just window dressing.
I always challenge my liberal friends who believe in amnesty or open borders. I ask them to define how many immigrants (legal and illegal) are too many? They can never define it. I then ask… Then how do you know we’re not past that point already? “Racist” is about the only answer I get.
nObama … Reluctanly McCain…
So say my bumper stickers and seeing a post like this is no surprise to any of us.
Michelle! May we have the phones number with which to shut down the system at the Re-dhimmi-can Convention?
One reason I refiled my voters registration from R to NPA after the disaster Florida presidential primary. The Republican Party needs to die, die, die!
These worthless low life dirty dealing back stabbing lying crapweasels in the RNC continue to slap conservative principles, the rule of law, and those of us that believe in them in the face repeatedly. I also read they are going to offer a plank to their platform to pander to those that believe in Gorebull Warming too. Like the Republican Party’s brand isn’t considered toxic now they go for suicide.
If the RNC thinks that “We oppose amnesty” is sufficient they are totally wrong and they didn’t pay enough attention to the 12,000 suggestions they received. Essentially it says nothing!! “We will not grant amnesty” is what the majority of Americans want to hear. Their whine about this being a “nation of immigrants” is just as empty.
Secure the border and enforce existing Federal laws–how hard is that???
Is this a surprise?
McCain and the moderate republicans deserve everthing they will get this November. I hope they enjoy being the minority for the next FORTY years or so.
I’m with you Patriot, I’d rather be waterboarded than vote for that old fool, McCain.
Great. That equates to about another 60,000 who’ll give up and go back home.
Right. Bring back the Whigs!!!
I was talking to fellow conservative Catholics at my school today about immigration. We are all against illegal immigration, but it is much better than an onslaught of barbarian Muslim immigration.
This is the truth: If we didn’t have Central American Catholic illegals, we would have exponentially the number of Muslim immigrants than we have now because of our clueless government that makes it so easy for Muslims to come here legally.
I didn’t really think about this until Debbie Schlussel’s post: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/08/good_news_after.html
If the white persons didn’t abort their own unborn then they would not be so rare…
I’m afraid it is.
They’re on a roll right now. If the GOP pursues this track, they’ll kill us all!
Not an Anglo-Saxon but a Celt. Am I safe?
BALONEY! McCain has NOT backed away from his reward of citizenship for illegal aliens approach. He merely added the word ‘first’ to the secure the borders part. That is nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on a Titanic boondoggle of a comprehensive immigration bill. He says so on this Hannity video.
McCain’s ideology is in full swing in California. Bank of America required my fingerprints (my driver license photo ID and credit cards were insufficient) to cash a $35 check drawn on the account of one of their own branch customers. If I had been an illegal alien, I could have opened my own BofA account (no social security number required) and avoided being finger printed while cashing the same check.
Knee high.
I still can’t figure out why both parties are intent on hispandering.
If McCain wins, we will have comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty for illegals). I can’t bring myself to vote for Hussein so I will have to bring my barf bag to the polling booth.
Me neither. This Zogby poll shows what Americans, both Republicans and Democrats, want: a little LAW ENFORCEMENT, not amnesty.
You know John McCain?
Nothing can hold back the Mexican invasion I am afraid… I hope to retire and just find a corner of North America that hasn’t yet been destroyed and try to stay out of the way…
In addition to this (noted above) the LPGA now requires English.
Um….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUDGjchVNtM
Pardon me and I will take my punishment accordingly but….. those who won are bastards!
What a COS His amnesty is a farce…
OMG we are reduced to this.
The sotbs are leaving most of the other non socialists are acclimating all we need to do is keep on keeping on. They are learning their lesson, don’t want to be an American, go home. Now its time to focus on the real adversary the communist, err democrat party. Where ever you see America faltering just look around for the socialist/communist influence and there it is, every time.
It all comes down to this – tougher language equals strong principles that the GOP is willing to uphold. Weak language makes it easier to change your position when its politically expedient.
Why does the GOP insist on turning itself into a copy of the Dems??? They seem to be working really hard at it.
Well, McCain’s pandering to illegal aliens has definitely caused THIS ANGLO-SAXON to emigrate from the GOP!
I won’t be voting for McCain this year and McCain-Kennedy is one of the top 10 reasons.
If there is no room in the “big tent” for Anglos I’ll gladly go elsewhere.
Rob, try northern Idaho. I think you’ll find quite a few of those “white people” you’re looking for. A few of them might even share your oft-stated views on “non-white people”.
I’m surprised that a wareagle would take flight that easily. Handling McCain is a can do situation, handling the obamastapo, well that’s a different story altogether. Hey you can make your choice and I wont mind but do you really think we should bring you back in, count on you to fight to the end if that’s the way you feel? I will say thanks but no thanks we need dependable people, people who are not afraid of getting stuck at the Alamo, Corregidor, the Afghan/Pakistan border areas those sort of places. So figure out what kind of American you are so you don’t get in the way of the rest of us. I sure am glad Washington didn’t run from a fight as quickly as that we would not be arguing about it right now.
It is nice to know you are paying attention! Thanks!!
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Hey dakine, got any points to make that discount Robs post, naw, didn’t think so. Look dude, there is more to life than smoking, dakine. Besides the enemies we face will cut your fuckin head off for drug use, pull it out while you still can. You want to live free, free to do dakine as you want then get on the ball, fool.
No worries Rob. You’re pretty predictable on these sorts of issues, so it’s not to difficult to keep track of you.
Gabe, you are way, way, way out there in left (or should that be right) field brah. Hard to believe folks actually let you teach their kids.
Deleted. Aw well no doubt dakine saw it. Talkin about head chopping is bad, seein head chopping is worse bein head chopped is the pinnacle. But nevermind we are bigger than that, We are Americans and bigger than that( huff, puff, condemn… fart) well, at least I hope we are, in the future. I say censoring the truth to delicately beat our enemies will land us six feet under.
Politicians, presidents included, have been selling US citizenship for years, not that selling America should not boil any patriotic American’s blood.
What is wrong with those people? DO they have a tin ear, are they really that detached from our conservative base and reality?
The problem is what can we do?
Fight them, and Obama wins, and it gets far worse for more quickly.
Simply witholding our votes and money won’t work – it has the same result.
We need to tear down the Country Club and Rockefeller Republicans, and replae them wiht grass roots real conservatives.
But how do we do that wthout giving everythign away quickly (OPBama) or a bit less quickly (McAmnesty)?
You’d think they learned last summer when we hammered them in Congress.
Just who do they think they are?
If you can handle the truth…
Amnesty is one more step on The Road to Socialism USA.
So, of course the Democrat[ic Socialist] candidates support it.
Why does McCain? Because he is a trojan horse. He also supports Socialist AGW taxes. And he likes to attack the “Ulta-Right” by calling them “Agents of Intolerance”.
Do you know who stands with us? Do you know Who Was the Only Presidential Candidate to commit to Sessions’ 15 Point Plan?
McCain Is A Trojan Horse Democrat.
He is the Republican most responsible for the advancement of the liberal agenda. The destination is the same with either McCain or Obama, the speed we go over the cliff is the difference.
What’s the likelihood of anyone who has been called names for wanting the gov’t to actually enforce the laws, to vote for those jamming amnesty down our throats?
McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Leiberman. Leadership like this I can do without.
Carbon taxes, constitutional rights for Gitmo detainees and amnesty for illegal aliens await us no matter who wins.
I will not participate in the dissolution of my country.
A Trojan horse only works with the element of surprise. A Trojan horse that is known is not a Trojan horse any longer.
McCain: Tough On Bin Laden; Afraid of Schlafly and Malkin
They just couldn’t force themsleves to say the words “illegal immigration,” instead, making the statement that the Republicans believe in the rule of law, or enforcement of federal laws.
Just..can’t..seem…to kick…the…political…correctness bug…ugh!!
Yes, we do welcome LAWFUL immigration, but we OPPOSE ILLEGAL immigration! If that makes me xenophobic, then I’m a xenophobe!!!
Amnesty, lying about amnesty and ridiculing those of us opposed to amnesty is just likely to cost McCain the election. Senator McCain obviously does NOT know how much he has offended those of us of Mexican Heritage-NOT MEXICANS- Who NOT favor amnesty, DO NOT list ourselves as Hispanic and sure as hell do NOT vote as one bloc.
Yes I know what the polls say: Bull. People who are into identity politics are going to vote Democrat period.
John McCain rubbing our noses with his smart alec mouth and pandering to the Democrats is pretty much what cost George Bush 1 the Presidency. BroBama scares me enough to even vote for the snake oil salesman. Any man who would throw his own aged grandmother under the bus is REALLY bad.
And as soon as this election is over all of us need to get busy and drive the RINOs out to pasture.
Amen!
Dang, that’s a pretty good analysis from a Neanderthal! I guess they grow em smart in Arizona.
tgusa,
Oh, but this trojan horse is very sneaky.
He used a stalking horse (Thompson) in SC to grab a win over Huckabee.
He used both a stalking horse (Guiliani) and Democrat cross-overs in FL to grab a win over Romney.
He told his supporters to vote for Huckabee to prevent a loss to Romney in WV, and in the process added fuel to the fire for Mormons who don’t like Huckabee.
He cut a back-room deal on February 6th offering the VP slot to Romney in return for Romney quitting and trying to make Huckabee quit.
He told us at CPAC that he “got it”.
He might have stolen the Washington state primary.
He spoke at Fallwell’s Liberty University in order to win VA primary, but he never apologized for his 2000 “Agents of Intolerance” remarks.
He backed out of a February 28th CNN debate and refused (for a second time) to participate in a Values Voter Debate.
He courted an endorsement by Hagee (away from Huckabee) just to win the Texas primary, then later threw Hagee under the bus.
He has not cared one iota about the grassroots who voted in large numbers for Huckabee even long after Huckabee left the race.
If McCain wants to prove that he is not a trojan horse, he needs to pick a VP who has a solid pro-life record (Huckabee), a commitment to Session’s Immigration plan (Huckabee), a commitment to Energy Independence (Huckabee), a commitment to 1-man-1-woman marriage (Huckabee), and in the event of ascencion to the Presidency, a commitment to Justices in the mold of Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito (Huckabee).
ITookTheRedPill,
You are absolutely right on all of your points and as I said, we all know it. I know it’s a terrible thing to say but don’t believe everything a pol says or even what he has attempted in the past. I have seen more bs in my lifetime that I don’t even begin to worry until it actually reaches congress. Lets deal with what we know, lets shape the debate, lets not remove ourselves from it, that aint the true America way and you know it. You want to be remembered as a leader or as a follower, ok so lead we’re with ya.
Except for the huckabee parts, you think McCains a lib, cmon!
Huck reminds me of my mom’s pastor of the past twenty years, Rick Warren, nice guy but too condescending for me.
I don’t care if a Third Political Party isn’t a viable option now. We should still form one and get it going.
The Conservative American Party!
The Democratic party platform on Immigration:
The Republican platform is “We oppose amnesty”. Where do you see that in the democrat platform?
I don’t care if the volcano is hot, I am going to swim in the lava.
Folks, ya gotta lean hard on your local politicians. You don’t like the platform? Talk to your local RNC party head. Join a local Republican club. Go to your local precinct meetings on election day. We have the power to change our party if we are willing to do something other than gripe on a blog site. This is American, dammit! Call and write your local representatives. Show up at their “townhall meetings”. Ask embarrassing questions. Write critical letters to the editor of your local paper. Lots of them. Make some noise!! This is OUR country. We have the power to make a difference.
I’ll get off my soapbox now.
Comprehensive immigration reform and being a party that follows the rule of law is oxymoronic. But then perhaps McSwish and company think moronic means smart.
Don’t forget the plaid Bermuda shorts.
I thought the “never McCain” business was over. I’d rather have someone guarding the door that will let a few slip through than someone that takes the door off the hinges and walks away. If BO gets in, all education will be bilingual by the end of his second term. That’s right. Second term. Because the 40 million new citizens will be voting for him because he gave amnesty to them and their extended families they brought over afterwards.
So go ahead and stay home or vote third party. You might want to pick up a Berlitz course on Spanish and get used to tortillas, though.
So are all you third party fans happy that you agree with Hillary?
The Republicans like the Democrats are a conspiracy. They put their own party ahead of the people and the country. Most of what they do in not even in the constitution. But we are the saps who keep putting them in office.
I do the exact smae thing. I never ever get an answer, even on blogs. They simply ignore the question and call me names. IMHO, it is suicidal not to answer the question, becasue we are taking a huge risk wihtout considering the consequences or at a minimum understanidng the end game. I assume the end of mass immigration to these fools is when people from 3rd world countries no longer find it advantageous to immigrate here (ie when our standard of living is no higher than their own). That is the only natural end to this madness. And that is also suicide for the future of America.
DAMN!!! Every time I get to the point of saying YES to OL’ JUAN, he or the RNC go out of their way to convince me I am WRONG… Obviously 70% of the AMERICAN PEOPLES opinion does not count… They have less than 70 days to turn me into a MC CAIN supporter… My question is do they even CARE???
Check out the Constitution Party. The nominee is Pastor Chuck Baldwin. He is a true conservative.
I love that! Should be our new motto.
“Pander to Americans For a Change.”
What an idiotic remark. Perhaps you should stop being a party shill and go do a little research before equating Independents to HRC. How ridiculous. Pastor Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party makes Mcamensty look like a socialist. So how does that in any way make me an HRC supporter? I am looking for a conservative (and mcamensty IS NOT a conservative) to support rather than voting party lines. Lord.
Now, on the euphamism topic. This euphamism crap is getting old. It is a page right out of the communist/democrat party playbook. Rename something, soften it, and say it enough times and the sheople will eventually believe it. That is how we got “comprehensive immigraiton reform” (aka amnesty)and “migrant” (aka illegal alien). It is bad enough we have to deal with the libs constantly using these tactics, but now the gop is doing it. The 2 party system no longer serves a useful function and must be broken.
Even better, how about the GOP spend more time developing a euphamism for enforcement and deportation, rather than amnesty.
I wish people still read the platform statements. I mean people in general.
Everything is a sound byte, and that’s what sells.
No, idiotic is voting for a candidate that has NO CHANCE of winning when a candidate you agree with for the most part loses to a guy that you never agree with. Of course, you may not get a chance to correct that mistake in 2012 or even complain about it because the left is tolerant of everything except an opposing point of view.
When your kids start to act up do you walk away and say you’ll just get new ones? The only chance is to do as TxSkirt says. Take back our party.
What a terrible comparison. The gop party is nothing like a person’s child. To equate them is ridiculous. The gop has abandoned most of the principles it once stood upon. The amnesty crap from mccain was the last straw for me. They spend like liberals, support affirmative action and diversity nonsense, grew the size of government 4 fold, supported amensty, etc. If you are ok with that, then fine. That is like continuing to go to a church where the preacher has strayed from the word of god. And if you think you can change the party direction, I ask you how? They haven’t listened to us up to this point and never will.
And voting for a candiate that represents your own beliefs is what this country is all about and what the founders intended. So I guess they too were “idiotic”? Look, I have explained my rationale over and over on this board. I will vote for mcamensty when he denounces any and all amnesty programs and takes up enforcement. In other words, I will never ever vote for the guy. The gop drift leftward will ocntinue as long as we validate that strategy by supporting them. I have voted LOTE past few elections and has gottne us nowhere. It is time to move one. I came to this conclusion after much thought. It was not impetuous on my part. Obummer sux, sure. But mcamensty is only slightly better. That is my opinion.
I was merely pointing out that you third party fans have the same point of view as the Dems. How many times have I read here that you will never vote for McCain? You know what, that’s one thing you have in common with all those crazies in Denver.
Also, I don’t know where you would get that a simple quote parroting your “independent” stance accuses you of being an HRC supporter. Personally, I could give a rat’s rectum who you vote for because when we’re both in the re-education camps, at least I’ll know I did everything possible to try to prevent it.
i join the chorus, which is worse, odumbo or mcamnesty. today saw the arrest of 600 illegals in mississippi, doing jobs only a member of the electrical workers union would want. maybe that will wake the MIDDLE CLASS worker up enough to have the union thugs not worry about secret vs nonsecret ballots, and start them to worrying if they will have a job by next year.
Well, if you feel the rnc still represents you then ok. If not, and you still vote for them, I ask you once again, how do you plan to change their platfrom back to conservative stance when you continue to vote for them regardless? “Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a differnet outcome is the definition of insanity” comes to mind. Nevermind. I am done with this conversation. We will not change one anohter’s minds and frankly we probably agree on most other subjects, just not this one. I have been down this road with others here, and came to the conclusion, we agree to disagree. And for the record, I was a republican for many many years. But they have strayed to far from the ranch for my tastes.
It shares my ideals and values. I support it financially. When it strays, I need to punish it until it straightens up. Right now I have the GOP in time out. Sounds like a child to me.
The dollar speaks louder than I can. I’ve told them when they called and responded to each of their mailers in writing. I’m sure they keep a history of donations and can see my dissatisfaction. Until they are replaced by a party that is more than a niche player. Last election, the Constitution Party had less than a third of the voters that Nader did. Did those 143,000 votes count? Did they have any impact or was it just a waste of time and effort?
You have the right to vote for whomever you choose, that is your right. Our founders left plenty of things up to the individual. You can wear a tutu in Times Square for all I care. The founders intended for you to be able to do that as well. That doesn’t make you any less of an idiot for doing so, though. I just prefer my vote to count for something. Vote for Baldwin or whatever candidate you feel best reflects your values. Just know that it’s going to affect the outcome about the same as the guy that writes in PeeWee Herman.
Just remember that the RNC runs on money, not votes. I’ve read a great many of your posts, and yes, we agree on most things. Of course, you can intelligently argue with a conservative and at the end agree to disagree. With a liberal, you become the object of hate.
john deaux, you are absolutely right, money is the key. i have had thirty emails from the senate rnc mouthpiece mckonnel begging for money. i told them 2 years ago to remove my name until they man up and start voting for republican values. could it be they are feeling a pinch the lobbyists can’t fix.
On August 27th, 2008 at 8:22 am, TxSkirt said:
Here Here!
On August 27th, 2008 at 10:31 am, John Deaux said:
Here here again!
You have fallen into the “sunk cost” trap. At some point, it is best to cut your losses and move on. I agree completely on the $ statement. That is all these scum carreer pols care about frankly. However, 2 points come to mind. 1) it is big $ from powerful individuals that drive the vast majority of donations. Many of those are business owners (or their lobbyists) who directly or indirectly profit from the cheap illeagl alien labor. Not liekly they will demand amensty (”regularization”) be dropped from the platform. Our little $100 donations won’t sway the platform. 2) Donastion to the party have been down for a while, especailly after the shamensty fiasco. Has it changed their minds yet? Have they gotten the message yet? When do we say they will never get he message? in 4 more years? 10?
All I am saying is both parties have been bought and paid for. Sure, they throw a bone here and there but that is it. These peopel are not statesmen. Loss of votes is what these guys understand. The $ will always flow from the big $ guys becasue they call the shots and determine the platform. I know Baldwin can’t win. But maybe, just maybe, if enough conservatioves voted for a conservative 3rd party guy,who if he can garner 10% even, will make the party leadership (which is that open borders moron martinez FL) open their eyes and change for the better. It may not work that way, but I just don’t see how supporting their platfroms by voting for their candidates does anyhting other than allow them to ignore us even more. Afterall, they will get your vote no matter what they do.
Weary Citizen:
I’ve said this before elsewhere. We have only two viable choices for the White House. Neither are in the party you propose.
One of those candidates will never listen to you. His party is diametrically opposed to everything you support. The other candidate and his party actually support some of what you believe in, though not all. They occasionally listen to you. As a citizen, it’s your duty to vote and keep the pressure up on whoever is in power. Your chances of success lay with the one who occasionally listens.
Your name suggests part of the problem here. You don’t want to work. You’re “weary” of it all. So you want to vote for someone who you think won’t require you to maintain diligence and awareness. That’s lazy. That’s not how a Republic works.
Lazy? Screw you. I propose the problem is people (check that, smart*sses) like you who keep the 2 party sytem stranglehold going. I am willing to work to get a 3rd party, with conservative values up and running, which is MUCH more difficult, while party freaking hacks like you just want to vote for the guy wiht an “r” beside his name. Then withhold donations to make your opinion heard. So come agian on the lazy, “my friend”. Look in the mirror to see lazy party hack. You know what. Now I am p*ssed. I was civil. And I have even came to understand some like bill grant and even John deaux (though i disagree), but you are an *ss. I will vote for who I want jerk off. Like it or not. And it certianly will NEVER be for your centris tcandidate. Jesus christ. I am done with this BS thread. It is peopel liek you that drive more away form the stinking party.
All very good points that are completely ignored by most
conservativesrepublicans.Well said, WC.
That’s exactly what the capitulation party said about Iraq. That’s also what a lot of patriots said following every British victory of the Revolution, of which there were plenty. We all know how that ended.
Perservere.
“Difficult” is a understatement. You’ve got about 60 days to accomplish that. Mission Impossible, I’d say.
Go ahead with your delusions. Like the left, you live in a dream world. Many of us here live in reality, and we understand the parameters we must work with.
Just the other day it looked like the MDS was in remission.