The GOP platform: Putting face-saving above principle
Let’s recap, for a moment, what the GOP has been up to while the DNC circus has been carrying on in Denver.
You’ve got the RNC running ads targeting open-borders Hispanic voters by touting John McCain as a stronger shamnesty supporter than Barack Obama.
You’ve got McCain foolishly promoting an endorsement from open-borders reggaeton star Daddy Yankee.
You’ve got GOP platform conferees refusing to combat pro-illegal immigration euphemisms.
And now, you’ve got those platform writers throwing in the towel on drilling in ANWR in order to save face for John McCain, who’s on the same side as Barack Obama and the Democrat Party on this issue:
Republicans are putting John McCain’s presidential prospects above their wish to drill for oil in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Members of the GOP platform committee voted Wednesday to stick with an energy plank that doesn’t mention drilling in the refuge, saying it would only highlight an area where they differ with the Arizona senator. McCain opposes drilling in that protected land, and some committee members said they would rather bring him around on the issue once he’s in the White House than widen their disagreement now.
“He’s not there yet,” said delegate Jeff Grossman of Oregon. “Prudence would dictate that we leave the text as it is until our candidate catches up with us.”
Delegates endorsed expanded drilling generally, both offshore and in Alaska, North Dakota and Montana, and declared that the Alaskan refuge should not be put off limits to the oil industry permanently.
McCain doesn’t have to follow the platform and it’s unclear whether he will give it much weight; presidential candidates often don’t. But the 112-member committee working on the statement of party principles in Minneapolis is trying not to stray too far from McCain’s views, while also satisfying the conservative base.
Wait, that’s not all. You’ve got the GOP adding global warming to the Republican platform and bragging about its greening:
The National Republican Party for the first time is expected to acknowledge global warming in its 2008 GOP Platform, according to a draft of the document.
“Increased atmospheric carbon has a warming effect on the earth,” the document said. “While the scope and long term consequences of this warming effect are the subject of ongoing research, we believe the United States should take measured and reasonable steps today.”
Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the party’s presumptive presidential nominee, is a strong proponent of
tackling global warming and has co-authored legislation to address the issue.In the GOP’s 2004 platform, the term “global warming” was completely absent.
NRO’s Stephen Spruiell has more on the straddle.
Your Republican Party: Bringing you the capitulation you deserve.
I know: No points for me.
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In the meantime, immigration raids in Iowa and Mississippi are apparently making the illegals think twice about sticking around. They are reportedly sneaking across the border in droves…OUT of the USA! If Obummer wins, or McPander doesn’t change his tune, all the recent good work will be for naught.
Me too. That’s funny. I haven’t has the heart either.
That’s not funny!
One can only hope that the RNC has taken a few hints from the DNC and is fibbing until after the election…but then I woke up from my nap. Disgraceful.
MM, thanks for the posts that are keeping the pressure on McCain.
All here please consider however, regardless of whether or not you plan to vote for the aforementioned, there’s still a congress that must not become ‘filibuster proof’. Talk about screwed….
My wife said the same thing last night. McCain needs to pick a Veep that is more conservative than he is, so he should pick Hillary.
Not a flyer, a black shoe. I just love the MH-53E.
Again…not funny!
Blame my wife Navywife
I thought it was funny John. Scary, but very funny.
OK, how did we let this happen???
Just when I think I may be able vote for this RINO……WTF???? now this…
I”m afraid ALOHA GUY is going to be right about HILLARY for VP, but…. She will be McCain’s pick………
To me, this seems like a total “throw-away” line and is as meaningless as the GOP needs it to be.
Everyone’s been complaining about aerosol cans since I was a little girl. This, to me, sounds like a dinky little pat on the head, rather than real capitulation.
I can’t get my VS panties too much in a bunch over it.
LOL. I missed that. I admit, I generally have mis-spellings in my posts. It is the obvious mis-use that gets to me.
Michelle, there is an easy way to put an end to McCain.
Before allowing him to become the Republican nominee, require him to provide a legally sworn deposition that his relationship with Vicki Iseman was not inappropriate in any way.
Then, if he is caught lying, he would be guilty of perjury.
Do it now, or the Democrats will use it to bring him down later.
It should be a simple thing for McCain to do. If he hesitates, there is a reason why. In the wake of the John Edwards scandal, we cannot nominate McCain without this assurance from him. If he did have an affair, and tried to “nunce” his answer by saying that it wasn’t “romantic”, then he needs to step down.
Note that Elliot Spitzer’s affair wasn’t “romantic”, either, but it was certainly inappropriate, and he stepped down.
The way John McCain answered the Vicki Iseman question makes me strongly suspect that he did in fact have an affair and he was giving a nuanced answer.
Don’t nominate a trojan horse!
The only way I would vote for McAmnesty is if John R. Bolton (UN straight shooter) were his VP choice.
Actually, I think I will vote for him and hope he will run in 2012. Either that or write in Barry Goldwater.
McAmnesty and the Obamessiah are both class warfare, anti-capitalists. One will just push us down the road to ruin faster. I would rather 4 years of pain associated with lots of Ds that might make the country wake up, instead of 12 years that we might not recover from.
Uh…what?
McSwish may have first learned about capitulation when he promise to give the COMMUNISTS “military information” in exchange for special hospital care not ordinarily available to U.S. prisoners, but he also made numerous anti-war radio broadcasts. Before the Generals of this blog get all military, this admission came from the man ready to be the CIC. You want McSwish to capitulate, show him your camera, he was long before been the poster boy for the photo-opt.
Oh, before I get your hup, two, three, four, about what I don’t know please note: Article V of the Code of Conduct is very specific in declaring that U.S. military personnel are required to avoid answering questions to the utmost of their ability and to make no oral or written statements disloyal to the United States and its allies or harmful to their cause. Any violation of this code is considered collaborating with the enemy.
McGlobal should have checked with Newt about the flack he would receive for going green. Newt still has lumps over it.
pb, since he was booted from hot air he’s been here, aren’t we lucky.
We have the natural resouces in this country to become 100% Energy Independent.
There is unanimous support for the “all of the above” approach of the American Energy Act.
Who doesn’t want us to drill for our own oil? The current oil exporters.
Most people know that the #1 oil exporter is Saudi Arabia.
Most people do not know who the #2 oil exporter is…
…Russia.
Putin is using oil revenues to rebuild a Cold War Empire.
That is all the more reason we should be drilling in ANWR…it strengthens America at the same time it weakens Russia (by lowering global oil prices).
So, why exactly is John McCain opposed to drilling in ANWR?
Who’s side is John McCain on? Ours or theirs?
John McCain, Was Your Relationship with Vicki Iseman “Inappropriate”?
Yes, indeed.
ajmontana,
Seek the truth and speak the truth. If you bury your head in the sand, we all lose.
Those who can’t handle the truth try to silence those who speak it.
As usual, McShame doesn’t get it.
At least these people finally do.
“One worker caught in Monday’s sweep at the plant said fellow workers applauded as immigrants were taken into custody. Federal officials said a tip from a union member prompted them to start investigating several years ago.”
Here is the story.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080827/D92QIKFG0.html
PBoilermaker,
I suppose you’d prefer an “October Surprise” and a President Obama?
McCain’s saying that he did not have a “romantic” relationship with Ms. Iseman was like Bill Clinton saying that he did not have “sexual relations” with that woman, Ms. Lewinski. Both were career politician “nuanced” answers.
Vet him properly before the nomination.
If we don’t, then we have no right to complain later when the Democrats corner him on this.
McCain’s personal relationship problems are the least of his problems.
I haven’t heard anyone here defend him on them, either.
That little “I suppose you’d prefer a President Obama” line is brilliant. If you want people to take you seriously, stop acting like a child.
This is what happens when your Political Party Loses it’s very Soul. We already know they lost their Spine a few years ago..
Hell what’s next?? a Pro-Abortion VP Candidate?? errr quite possible.
Acrapweasel #182, I already link that story in my #82 post. Not trying to say “beat you to it” just letting you know that the link I provided also has a comment section and you should see some of those comments. Here’s a hint, “You’re all acting like a bunch of racist”.
Who is this Red Pillian? And whatever is this person trying to say? And why do they seem so angry and urgent about it?
I don’t get it, sorry.
I by all means sir am not trying to silence you nor did I say so. Thank you very much.
adding, now will go back to ignoring you.
I think we’re being a little short-sighted here. After all, it’s continual capitulation to the liberal-left that made the GOP what it is today.
He just graduated from the “Biff Tannen School of Debate”.
Why, it is a principled conservative who is going to vote his conscience with a third party vote. I think the Whigs.
Global warming “All the science is in” AlGore
The nature of science is that all the science is never in.
Is McCain trying to make me stay home from the election? Leave my brain at the entrance to the voting booth.
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESS!!!!!!!!!!!
PBoilermaker,
We can’t ignore the Iseman issue. Why not? Because with the Dems losing Spitzer and Edwards this year, they will hit McCain hard on this issue. If he did have an inappropriate relationship, and tried to cover it up, than he is no better than John Edwards.
OT
I case you haven’t heard.
Police arrest reporter at DNC convention on public sidewalk.
Just sent a letter to the RNC telling them i have removed the John Mccain signs from my yard and have changed my voter registration to indepenent. Think i will call Bob Barrs campaogn and see if they would like my yard for signs.
I knew it was only a matter of time before the GOP let me down again. Why is it when they are finally succeeding, that is when they start to pull back?! This is why the base is so frustrated with our elected officials. We may support McCain in the election, but that does not mean we have to agree with his every position.
Ron Rockstar,
Thank you for calling me a principled conservative. I am a Reagan Republican. John McCain is no Reagan Republican. In fact, Ronald and Nancy Reagan shunned John McCain when McCain had an adulterous affair with Cindy while John was still married to his first wife (who just so happened to work in the Reagan administration).
Third party vote? I’m not there yet, but McCain is pushing me dangerously close. I am a “Values Voter”, and I will not vote for a ticket containing not one, but two, candidates who gave us the finger by chosing not to attend the Values Voter Debate.
Let me guess, it only cost Barack 20 million to get her to say that?
P.U.M.A.M.A
Kudos to Hillary Clinton. She gets an A+ from the time of her brilliant speech last night to this ACCLAMATION. I have beat up on her for years. Hillary was my 4th favorite choice when the primaries started behind Biden, Edwards, and Obama 3rd. She has put party and country ahead of herself. You have the ball to run with Senator Obama. Let’s take the White House. Yes we can!!!
I don’t think we need to talk about ANWR now. Offshore and shale reserves would easily power America for over 100 years. There’s plenty of time to tap ANWR later.
Why talk about the more-contested ANWR when our other oil reserves are more of a slam-dunk with voters?
I have to admit that I hardly read these “we’re screwed 08″ stories. Not because they’re not important, but because the reality is that our next President will be either Barack Obama or John McCain.
I have the right and responsibility to vote, and I will not in any fashion help Obama win.
WOW WOW WOW, A good Democrat?
I know john great for us here in cal.
there are a few of em….. lol a very small few, and not a whole bunch from here especially.
Red Pill, I’m there with you buddy. I like to think that I am a principled conservative but I also have a firm enough grasp on reality to realize that we have a two party system, and voting for anyone other than those two parties is just going to be throwing my vote down the toilet. If Senator McCain loses the election it is not going to be because I gave my vote to someone else. It’s tempting to a point. I think my vote for Ross Perot got me Clinton. I am not going to “principle” myself into a President Obama.
As Michelle said months ago, the stupid party strikes again.
We suffered through the Carter years and made it, we will suffer through the Obama/McCain years and will probably make it as well. It matters not to me which of these losers win…
We’re Screwed O8
Someone said Juan was old and that we had to vote for VP. Said poster was too polite to wish Juan ill. That’s not what some people I’ve talked to have said. They’re upset and don’t care if they’re rude or not. The words “stroke out” come up frequently and visions of Romney in the WH come next. Juan is too traitorous to keep, but we at least have to get him elected.
Yeah, it’s cruel, but look what he thinks of us.
I bet she gets booted from the Party, AJ. HA HA HA
Do you really want to understand why?
It’s because socialist influences “own” the Democrat[ic Socialist] Party and some of the Republican Party, including John McCain.
It’s because the four candidates who gave the finger to the Values Voter Debate (McCain, Thompson, Giuliani, and Romney) conspired to give McCain the nomination. (Thompson and Giuliani as “stalking horses” in SC and FL, Romney joining forces on February 6th in return for the VP slot). They were also assisted by Democrat crossovers and very questionable practices in Washington State. McCain “used” people left and right, like courting the endorsement of Pastor John Hagee five days before the Texas primary, then throwing him under the bus after winning the primary.
During the Olympics, did you ever tell the underdog to quit? No.
Then why did the RNC try to make Reagan quit in 1976 and try to make Huckabee quite in 2008?
McCain is not a choice. He is an echo of the choice made in closed-door back-room deals. He is a trojan horse.
I am reluctant to vote third party, but if McCain gives us the finger again with his VP choice, I will vote third party because Values Voters are America’s largest voting block, and there has never been a better time for a third party candidate to win. Barack can take the far left, McCain can take the center, and we will win with the far right (the biggest of the three groups).
The advantage of drilling in ANWR is the oil could be online in a short period of time 1.5 to 2 yrs compared to offshore and shale…5 plus yrs. Point is… DRILL AND DRILL NOW! EVERYWHERE WE CAN. The wind will still be around when we run out of oil.
Sure it does. If not, you wouldn’t be at a political blog commenting at #141
I am one of the 30,000+ “scientists” who signed the petition stating that there is no credible scientific evidence to support the hypothesis that human activity has anything to do with the warming climate. I signed it because there is no credible scientific evidence ….
If you read the IPCC report very carefully you see there is plenty of evidence that the earth’s climate has been warming since about 1500 AD, and at the same rate (i.e. it hasn’t been warming any faster with the increased use of fossil fuels). There have been a few years when there was a slight cooling trend for a few years and then it started warming again – we just may be in such a trend now. It could get warmer again in a few years – or it could continue to cool. It is kind of like the economy: you don’t know if you are in a recession currently, you have to wait and look back at the data.
I can’t believe the RNC caved on this issue.
what time is Bubba speaking?
I wonder if his speech will be as lame as Hilldebeasts… yawn… buh bye loser. lmao
How many times do you think he’ll bite his lip? I’m guessing at least 25.
How can he be a maverick in a party that is designed around him? Wouldn’t that make everyone else the ‘maverick’?
I really don’t understand where the term ‘maverick’ came from. It should be liberal Republican instead of ‘maverick’.
The Golden Calf actually LOST ground after picking Biden as his running mate, and instead of capitalizing on that and all the other things that is going along with the Democrats falling apart, he is continuing to try and lose the election by becoming the second Democrat running for the Highest Office.
This just doesn’t make sense. The country is starved for true Conservative leadership, and all he can do in continue to pander to the so-called middle, as well as pandering to people who don’t even have the right to vote in the first place.
If he does win, it is becoming clear that it is because of an “Anyone but Obama” vote and not for anything he has personally done or said.
So much for a 2 party system.
Well Said Retfireman.
Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus has a song about global warming on her new CD. The lyrics are pretty amusing.
I have said it a thousand times here and elsewere. McCain-Kenndy and McCain-Feingold are two of the biggest reasons I will NOT vote for McCain. I am not getting suckered by another faux-conservative offered up by the GOP this year. I have learned my lesson.
McCain doesn’t get it! And therefore he won’t GET my vote.
When conservatives stay home and cast a vote for POTUS… I wonder if that will tell the RNC anything. Their $$$ gathering is already drying up.
You’re right RetFireman, but he won’t see it. He’ll think America loves him and supports all his policies. And he’ll think he really put the screws to the conservatives. Which, of course, will be true.
Staying home won’t tell them anything, only voting third party and write-in will. Then they’ll know we showed up but wanted someone who wouldn’t throw 90% of our values under the bus.
I was just wondering if any of you saw the attack on Michelle posted on freedomfolks.com yesterday? Why is this not newsworthy?
wise man will be very disappointed, my friend.
Can I just say how much John McCain sucks? John McCain and the new Republicans suck. I refuse to throw my support behind the Democrat lite party. The Republican party today is no different than the Democrat party 10 years ago.
IF McCain gets my vote, he’ll be lucky.
Yet another reason not to vote for these clowns.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
How about this one?
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
No but there are independents.
I will very likely be voting for Alan Keyes, by write-in if necessary.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
They already are, compliments of George W. Bush.
And the Democrats STILL don’t acknowledge him.
What EVER!
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
… and cut ‘n run.
I’d vote for them otherwise.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
You crack me up! You are trying to stay “hip” aren’t you?
Thanks for the link.
I looked into this. Truther. No vote from me.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Keyes ‘08
Thanks, Krieger.
this has been bothering me for a looong time, and I’ve let it slide out of politeness.
Oh and also this one:
to: in a direction
too: also
two: the number 2
Also very annoying.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Joy, for whom should we vote for?
I don’t care about John McCain’s sex life any more than I cared about Bill Clinton’s.
What I DO care about is the decision to lie under oath about it. If, as the libs in the media (and I) say, sex isn’t a big deal, then why lie about it under oath?
It’s a distraction from the real issue, which is the ridiculous liberalism we’re doomed to suffer until you LOTE people grow a spine and stop voting for Democrats and Republicans.
Have you noticed just how many of you there are????? If you were to get with the rest of us, there would be a chance of stopping this, and stopping it NOW.
Unfortunately, it’s going to take either four years of Oblahma marxism or eight to twelve years of Republicans liberalism to get to the point where America has had enough – BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING THIS CHOICE.
This is what we are faced with until you decide you care enough to take a stand.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
In my opinion, Alan Keyes or Fred Thompson are excellent choices. Guys like Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin seem to want to hang with the “Truther” crowd, so they’re off my list.
I’ve chosen Keyes for the time being. Seems we only disagree on one issue: the war on drugs, which is a stupid waste of money in addition to being unconstitutional (illegal).
Still, he’s the closest you can get to actually voting for the perfect conservative (Federalist) candidate right now.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
love2rumba – Someone more conservative than McCain so they get the hint. Too bad conservatives couldn’t unite behind someone other than McCain months ago. At this point, it’s probably too late. My write-in will be for Mitt Romney.
But I will… not… vote… McCain. No I won’t.
Hey joy …thanks for the response.
I will still wait until McCain’s vP pick is announced, and then decide.
I am most concerned about what Supreme Court we will get, and see what is our best option actually is apart from self- immolation
love2rumba – You have far more confidence than I that he will choose conservative SC Justices. I don’t think he will since they would overturn his pet McCain/Feingold. And I also don’t think he will because he isn’t a conservative. He’s already stated Roberts is too conservative. And he likes one of the lefty ones, who I can’t remember at this moment.
Conservative justices from McCain? No way, no how. I don’t care what he says. The only people he hasn’t pandered to are conservatives. But I understand and respect your POV.
I also believe the GOP has already self-immolated… and I won’t follow them. I call it the boiling-frog-in-the-pot syndrome. The GOP and McCain are fully cooked.
I just left this email on the McCain for President campaign website:
You know, it’s interesting….with all the knowledge of Obama’s elitism and McCain’s continued pushing of amesty and no drilling in ANWR or the OCS I really believe that this election will show the absolute lowest turnout in political history! Do you think that the GOP can possibly get any lower then they currently are? The GOP platform looks so much like the DNC platform that nobody can tell the difference in the two parties anymore. Is it worth the trouble to begin a party with an actual spine? The DNC doesn’t have one and neither does the GOP. How about actually showing a real difference to America in order to convince them to vote for McCain? I’ve voted a straight GOP ticket since I was able to vote before the end of the Vietnam war. I don’t think I can do that any more if the GOP won’t grow some testes and prove that they really care about this country. Are you willing to do that or are you just whacking off?
Joy my “confidence” about McCain appointing conservative SC judges is at best that he will do so because he will otherwise lose his big opportunity to “play president” if he screws conservatives with an a ticket that reduces this race to two sets of Democrats, and the hope that because of his age he will just be gone one way or another by the start of the second term, leaving an opportunity for us conservatives to have a better voice for what we believe in a span of 4 years.
However, if McCain picks Lieberman, Ridge, Pawlenty or some other RINO for VP and by his current acts continues to give us the middle finger, the real debate will be which choice does conservatism the most damage…putting up with BO for 4 years, hunkering down as best as possible from that damage guaranteed, or putting up with McCain for 4-8 years, and then have another McCain as our standard bearer after he is gone and conservatism being put out of commission for probably 12-20 years…the damage to conservatism from that will be far more horrendous than anything Bend Over can do us,simply because of the increased opportunities for more liberal programs to be inserted whether they come from an “R” label or a “D” label for it gives the prick liberals what they want: to see conservatism, economic and social, emasculated…and removed from the body politic as a joke.
When I did vote for Ross Perot in 1992, it was because I already knew then that What McCain represents now was represented then by the RINO father of the current President; that current Prsident having given us better than which we as conservatives wanted than we ever would have gotten as conservatives if we just stayed the course and vote for REagans ex-vice president “the lesser of two evils”
Crap is crap when it is poured in your cereal bowl, and no one in their right mind will eat it, why would the real world be diffrent?
George HW Bush was properly punished as was Dole…if anyone on this site really believes that with George HW Bush, or “Lets make a deal Bob Dole” would have gotten the US Supreme Court in its current more conservative -minus that damn Anthony Kennedy -configuration, I’d like them to demonstrate how having a RINO in the Whitehouse will get us a better SC…with more Anthony Kennedys and David Souters…. I’d like to see the hard evidence for that point of view.
At this point, however, I will wait until the last minute before deciding my course of action.
On August 27th, 2008 at 10:29 pm, Joy said:
It would be fantastic if you could provide a link to where he said that. I wasn’t able to find any such statement. I am sure you will be able to verify it though.
All I came up with was this:
Bill Grant – My bad – He said Alito was the one who was too conservative, not Roberts. I apologize for mixing them up. Robert Novak corroberates. The two in his article plus the real person who made the claim makes three witnesses to his comments.
I hope you enjoyed typing the rest of your drivel, because I didn’t read it. I have more respect for Stupid Boy, because at least he admits McCain is “A worthless piece of Crap” although he is still voting for him. You refuse to see anything wrong with your boy McCain. You’re no different the the b. Hussein groupies who can’t see anything wrong with him either. You’re a total hypocrite, and a senseless one at that.
Go talk to someone else.
Bill, The only problem with your quote about who McCain would pick for SCJs is his earlier statements on Alito…and as far as I am concerned there is little functional difference between Alito and Roberts…and without meaty assurances to the contrary, that is picking a VP candidate who would pick another Alito or Roberts, McCain’s statement is just talk….I for one need to see where the meat is in his later statments for SCJs.
AS for anyone from the People For The American Way, they would never go along with anyone or their policies, unless he/she were a Democrat..that is how lock-step the libs are. They’ll literally vote for an actual “stuffed shirt”, if someone puts a Democrat label on it.
I will hold my breath for (apparently) another two days. Regardless of the outcome, I respect your points as you have made them.
OK, well he has promised to appoint judges like Alito as well. See above.
No need to apologize for that.
Yes, you seem proud that you bury your head in the sand in the face of things you don’t want to see.
Classy.
How would you know? Every time I post something you inform me that you didn’t read it. Have you gotten this far?
Gee, nothing hysterical about that response. Why not just call me a baby tosser again?
If I am so “senseless” how come you haven’t been able to refute what I have written? Oh, because you don’t read it. So you came to the conclusion that I am “senseless” because the stuff I post is somehow “senseless”, and you know this even though you don’t read it. Is that supposed to persuade me that you are “sensible”?
In terms of Obama groupies I am suspicious that you are actually one, providing a caricature of a reflexive, dogmatic hysterical, nutball for your fellow Kos kids to laugh at
But you always provide such scintillating dialog! Always so logically congruent and beautifully composed. I can almost hear your clever rebuttals as they echo off the walls of your double wide clear across the continent.
Oh, once again:
He voted for Alito. Did he say something bad about him? I don’t know. He denies it:
“I don’t recall a conversation where I would have said that,” McCain said, adding he’s repeatedly said at town meetings, “We’re going to have justices like Roberts and Alito.”
But I honestly do not know either way.
Yes, the VP will be important, but at this point we have his statements at Wake Forest University, his statements at the Conservative Political Action Conference, his statements at Saddleback Community Church, his statements at town hall meetings, yada, yada, yada… etc,
This seriously isn’t directed at you love2rumba, but at this point it just doesn’t matter to many reading this. They are going to ignore the above and pounce on the next off the cuff remark or endorsement by “Daddy Yankee” as proof that it is all a sham because that is what they want to believe. (And the echoes confirm it.)
McCain could do the I am going to nominate the Alito clone dance flawlessly and it would be fine and dandy until the Juan Hernandez straw man gets tossed out… Then we are right back at step one.
Will Romney do? He has been pilloried here as a RINO as well. (Lets face it, he could pick Alito and some would think that it wouldn’t guarantee someone like Alito.)
I would prefer a genuine stuffed shirt to smug and plugs.
Thank you. Same here.
There they go again…
Just when McCain is positioned to pull ahead, given the underwhelming response to the Dems convention, the RNC intends to do everything they can to sabotage their own candidate. For some reason, they insist on acting like liberals under the delusional belief that it will somehow help.
Rather than contrasting McCain and Obama, they’re blurring any distinction between the two. Just when I’m about ready to vote for McCain, they have to pull this kind of s _ _ t!
None of this makes me happy. But Obama would be an absolute disaster, that would take decades to recover from.
McCain must pick a conservative VP. Then we can fight him on the BS global warming and amnesty.
We also must work over the RNC on the issues the next four years. Individually contribute to true conservatives and not the RNC and they should start to get the message.
You are one smart lady. I know I am sticking myself into this ridiculous argument again, but I just can’t see how anyone can continue to perpetuate the 2 party system. “It’s all we got so we must vote for one of the 2″. Then have the nerve to call us capitulators. Capitulating is accpeting LOTE again and not pusuing the break up of this 2 party strangelhold. I respect their right to vote for 1 of the 2 parties, but it should be because they agree with the platfrom (at least on the issues they care about) not because “it is all we have”.
BTW, joy, did you also used to post over at the FAIR blog? Just curious.
Don’t do this to me. I just got myself talked into voting for McNut. Of course, he could seal the deal with a good VP pick.
Help me out here. Where do you find he is a “truther”? Maybe I am missing it altogehter, but I haven’t seen him say he beleives all that conspiracy nonsense. Is it because his loose association with Ron Paul? I belive Baldwin is a Constitutionalist. I am in agreement with vitually all of his views. The man is far and away more conservative than mccain. I admit though, it is the immigration stance that attracted me. But if it turns out he is a conspriracy nut, I may have to rethink my postion. Until then, he will get my vote in November.
On August 28th, 2008 at 10:00 am, Weary Citizen said:
Well, this is a start:
Pastor Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party’s candidate for president, snagged his nomination in part because of his connections and friendship to Ron Paul, and his promise to carry on the rEVOLution. That makes it all the more disturbing when we see video of Baldwin indulging in 9/11 kookery. In this video, he first makes clear that he doesn’t trust the conclusions of the Warren Commission, then speculates about the Twin Towers. (How this squares with his first post-9/11 theory, that God punished us by sending attackers, is a mystery to me.)
I don’t know whether there was any kind of an inside apparatus involved in this or not… If there’s duplicity involved in some kind of conspiracy, then let’s find out who it is and prosecute whoever’s involved.
There is more.. video too at the link about the swirling conspiricies that surround us; The guy is a moonbat.
Everyone I know has decided to vote for Chuck Baldwin.
The Republican Party is no longer the party of any principal except capitulation and bending over for the New World Order.