ABC reporter throttled in Denver…by police
Something’s definitely wrong with this picture.
An ABC News reporter gets throttled by Denver police outside a hotel for taping Dem senators schmoozing with fatcats.
But nothing happens to these unhinged nutballs? (Related interview at PJM Political.)
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The thing that disturbs me is that the Cop says “Just shut it off” referring to the camera (watch again near the end.)
If his action is justified, he should have no reason to be afraid of the camera.
When police start trying to hide their actions, there’s cause for concern by citizens..
No that offends our sense of reason and offends any traditional definition of strong.
Actualy I based it on information freely available here and everywhere on the net, if you can stop being a patrisan hack and open your eyes.
Which would result in said persons arrest. You were half way there. Either way the intent was to SHUT UP OBAMAS POLITICAL ENEMIES!!!
So much for free speech.
That’s what I say after each of your posts.
NO I am not kidding! Prove that Cop wasn’t working for Obama!!!
And to mj and chappy, I must say that it’s refreshing to see libs waiting for evidence before jumping to any conclusions and demanding firings, heads on platters, etc. before the evidence has been decided (anyone remember Tom Delay or Karl Rove??). That’s a new direction for y’all. Keep it up.
Try thinking out of the obama approved box you have enslaved your mind to.
If you do not understand what is inherently and logically wrong with that statement, I see no point in discussing anything further with you.
Which is a paper tiger; McCain-Feingold is restricted to 527s not 501(c)4
Obama’s character can be called into question this way.
Looks like that’ll happen from what alamb says.
Reading the comments of some of the folks hear, you gotta admit that the circumstances surrounding this are very suspicious. I want to know who told the cops to arrest the reporter. It could’ve been someone from the DNC at the hotel, or it could’ve been some overzealous bellhop.
With all that’s been going with the Obama campaign telling supporters to try and get Stanley Kurtz taken off the air and them writing the DoJ to get the ad taken off the air, it does raise suspicions with me. I’m not ready to jump on the DNC just yet without some more proof.
Anyway, gotta run and take care of my dog.
I think that cop was so fat and ugly he must of been working for Obama. Dunkin’ Donuts gets sold out when this cop drives through.
A 501(c)(4) can’t act like a 527 and escape scrutiny just because it filed as a 501(c)(4).
Now you’re being beyond silly. Find me one post anywhere, where I have said that this man should be silenced for simply doing his job. I have actually condemned the actions of the officers, unless there’s more to the story, like some type of law violation.
The truth of the matter is, there’s no evidence that these officer acted on the orders of the Obama campaign, and that the reporter did nothing wrong. If the reporter was doing nothing wrong, and workers for Obama ordered the cops to violate the law, I’m woman enough to get on this board and condemn the actions.
Are you big enough to take back your baseless allegations if the Obama campaign was uninvolved, or the reporter did something illegal?
lol. Next thing you’ll know is they will want evidence on global warming…
I see, thats why all those liberal 501(C)(4)’s were included in the obamas demand.
oh wait…..
I never said he wasn’t picking and choosing.
Oh well; if that’s what they WERE doing, it sounds like a work-around.
What…only Dems are allowed to rely on those little technicalities to avoid criminal justice?
As is the case with most LEO’s, Denver cops lean pretty decidedly right. Odds heavily favor this simply being a case of overzealous law enforecement rather than some sort of ridiculous consipiracy to subvert the 1st amendment. In fact, cops generally speaking aren’t big fans of the media in general, so that may have played into this as well. Some of you need to get out of the basement a little more and maybe refresh your perspective with a dose of the real world. Kind of embarrassing guys. MM is simply playing to her schtick with the demagoguery and trying to generate traffic, so she gets a pass. radio and others, however, are simply out of their minds.
From your lips to God’s ears, sambo!
I’m consistent, see. I talk badly about the fringe on the Left, and the fringe on the Right. Feel free to lump me in with all liberals, if it makes it easier for you to debate, but it’s pretty lazy.
Actualy i am kind of glad to have the budding dictator exposed this way.
So I take it you’ll have more of a problem with dakine 117 comments.
OK, mj, I’ll bite: How are you with the Obama campaign’s juggernaut before the DOJ on the Ayers thing?
Oooooh…”facts”.
Chapoutier, my friend, scold dakine, please.
Dang…ABC is really having a rough time with their reporters at that thing. Those peacenicks are just too violent.
Like Obama, I pick and choose.
And while we’re on the issue of free speech and open debate,
try this on for size.
At least you have a sense of humor about your own hypocrisy.
I’ll give you that.
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I had a rather long rant on the 8/26/08 thread, but long story short I disagree with his tactics. He’s simply working the system, and doing nothing illegal, but I think it looks bad and like he’s hiding something.
I think he should continue to make his own ads explaining his minimal relationship with Ayers, but not shut down the Right’s Ad. Moreover, I think he should turn the tables and smear McCain with every negative association he’s had over the years.
Looks Like this situation was way above those officers’ pay grade.
A 501(c)4 can do what it wants if it’s a socially conscious act for the public good.
MoveOn does it quite a bit.
The kids need new shoes ya know.
Geez…now, maybe the video did not show everything, but from what I saw, there was still a good 8′ of sidewalk space left AFTER the cameraman and the reporter stood there, on the phone. I fail to see how either of them or even both combined were blocking the sidewalk.
Add to that the pure endangerment of the reporter’s life as the cop pushed him into oncoming traffic…which is CLEARLY against the law, this guy has a HUGE case against the Denver Police.
I won’t even get into the stuff Cigar-Boy (Clinton supporter?) and the others did. This was truly one hell of a disgusting performance…ESPECIALLY after the cops turned their backs on that violent whack-job Jones after Pony-tail man made a complaint concerning the battery he sustainned when that fat tub-o-crap pushed him and there is a VERY clear bias that seems to be occurring in that city.
Add Denver to the list of cities that I will not be moving to.
My brother is a cop, and I support them in damn near everything…but these guys were just wrong. You won’t hear anything about it though. I hate to be this cynical, but the reporter was white.
The problem is this isn’t just an “association.” This isn’t a, “Hey, I’m Bill Ayers, nice to meet you” at a cocktail party deal.
Ayers and Obama worked together - closely. Indeed, Obama’s career as a politician was basically under Ayer’s watchful eye.
But, I forget.
Ayers hates America. Obama will destroy America. It’s a match made in heaven and who are we to question the Messiah’s judgment.
She wants some 24’s for her whip, too.
Rims are expensive.
Where the hell do you get that idea?
501(c)(4)s can engage in limited campaigning, but it cannot be the primary purpose of that entity. The question becomes 1) whether or not the ad it put out is campaigning (I think it pretty obviously is) and 2) if so is the campaigning the primary purpose. Not sure what kind of test (whether fact and circumstances or some sort of expenditure test) is used. if that is the case, its status would be revoked. I think they can reclassify an entity to fit whatever its actual activities are.
The question with respect to individual donors is if they are coordinating with the McCain camp to circumvent the campaign finance laws through the use of the 501(c)(4).
But we are way OT.
Purdue, you disagree with my generalization regarding cops? Obviously, you’re correct in implying that I wasn’t being factual, but do you disagree?
No excessive force, HOWEVER, it was clearly an assault under the color of authority (which is a crime, at least in CA.)
The assaulting officer should be cited by the local DA’s office, and held to account. There was no reason for the officer to lay hands on the reporter unless he was defending himself, or affecting an arrest.
In my old department, an officer doing what I just viewed would, at the minimum, be given time off without pay, and have a reprimand placed in his personnel jacket. Not very professional in MHO.
hahaha. you all are wrong. These cops were just trying to help the reporter to his knee’s so he would be in the correct position to say Obama-hu-akbar!
It’s there tho I don’t think it made the front page.
LINK
Just giving you red meat to see what you’d say. Interesting though.
The worst is yet to come out about this. These two handed out 100 million together. Ayers appointed Obama as the president of this association (over the 100 m). Then Ayers goes to schools to help them ‘apply’ for a grant. He ‘cunsults with them on ‘how’ they spend the money. If the school agree’s to the way to spend it (with companies he’s affiliated with)…they get the grant. If they want to go by computers at Walmart, they don’t.
This is the typical scam the liberals make their money off of. The deversity training works exactly the same way.
Typical liberal!
Run away and hide if you can’t dispute a point made….
Sorry, should have picked up on the sarcasm.
What dopey hotel wants this kind of publicity? A manager politely escorting the reporter off-property if he’s trespassing would have been enough. Even with that, hotels have areas they think of as “open to the public” (lobby, bars, restaurants) and they hope people will come there. It’s odd they would try and get this guy outside.
Chap - Pick and choose? I know you think it’s humorous, but you have now made your entire belief system a joke.
Oh yeah, that ABC producer looks really threatening. Somebody call the FBI!!!
This is the thing I hate about cops. Some of them have no judgment except sheer stupidity. This cop was probably bullied as a child.
Why is that exactly? Is MM a “joke” because she picks and chooses to highlight stories that best support her viewpoints?
As far as I know, Obama’s campaign is not preventing anyone from bringing similar charges or investigations against Soros or MoveOn or whatever group. Now THAT would be hypocrisy.
Nice picture. Welcome to Zimbabwe and have a nice day.
How far did your eighth grade teacher get which word definitions?
Whatever you’re calling “hypocrisy”, that aint it!
Yet another stupid, liberal kid without a clue trying to hang with the big boys
Don’t choke me bro!
You’re right about what the “P” stands for. Whether I agree or disagree with your stereotypical view of cops has no bearing on this discussion.
I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy in this thread regarding generalizations. I found it to be mildly amusing.
Even more amusing is the fact that in this thread alone, you have righties AND lefties both bashing cops in general terms over the same incident.
AND he gets indignant when people (justifiably, IMO) say that they loathe lawyers.
Chapoutier, using your legal expertise to crush dissenting arguments based solely on ideology (regardless of merit) doesn’t enhance your integrity.
Michelle, her “ghost blogger” husband and (most of) the rest of us can call a spade a spade, be it Liberal or Conservative. Can you? Your ability to look past ideology and do so is in question now thanks to your “pick and choose” comment (at least, for me it is).
Than again, who cares what MM’s blog posters think of your integrity, right?
Then again.
My bad.
Michell Malkin blogs about anyone of any stripe who is guilty of hypocrisy, notice the posts that call McShame on the carpet. And in any that are revealing flaws in Obama that McShame is also guilty of, she makes a note of it.
More class and integrity in her little toe than you have in your whole being.
I like to think so. Just off the top of my head on this board I recall being very disappointed with Obama for opting out of public financing and saying he was absurd for claiming that the little comment he made a few weeks ago about how other presidents “didn’t look like him” or whatever wasn’t about race.
Are you talking about Obama’s or mine? I absolutely agree that going after the AIP does not increase Obama’s integrity. It helps him win an election.
And which “pick and choose” comment was the one that put MY integrity into question? The one where I quite seriously pointed out that of course the Obama campaign (as we all do to a certain extent) is going to pick and choose. Or was it the one where I was making a freaking joke?
Actually, I care what a good number of posters on here think of my integrity.
God, I was not calling into question Michelle’s integrity.
Whatever. Lets just get back on topic. This is tiresome.
PBoilermaker - I have a friend who is an attorney and a D and we go round and round over politics. He’s beginning to lean right… finally… but to highlight the way lawyers think, this story sums it up quite nicely (or ugly as the case may be)
I was talking to him about a case that thoroughly disgusted me in Arizona. It concerned two German brothers who came to the states and made a pact, that whoever married first would take out an insurance policy on the wife and murder her and they would split the money.
So the one brother gets married, takes out the insurance policy, and stabs his wife 67 times.
Here’s where the lawyer comes in… He actually argued that his client shouldn’t get the death penalty because the only reason the man stabbed his wife so many times was that she struggled too much. I’m not kidding, I couldn’t make this up.
Well, how do you think my attorney friend responded? With horror and shock like any normal person would? Of course not!
Instead he launched into the points of law that make the lawyers argument a GOOD ONE…
Why was that cop smoking a cigar while cuffing the reporter? WTF? So clearly the cops in Denver are in the dems pocket. Compromised for the price of a cigar? Probably a Cuban cigar too.
So why isn’t ABC going ballistic about this? Are they so far in the tank for the dems that they don’t even mind when it’s them on the recieving end?
Just a taste, MSM, and what is to come when your worshipped politicians finally have total power. One of the first things will be to muffle you; dictating who, what, where and when. Like sheep welcoming the wolves to the fold, it shows sheer stupidity on the MSM’s part.
Chap sorta reminds me of Tony in the last episode of the Sopranos when Dr. Melfi realizes he’s using therapy sessions to hone his sociopathic skills.
What I don’t get is the Right hates ABC; so why wouldn’t they rejoice a bit when Buford T. Justice puts a metrosexual journalist in a choke hold, with a cuban hanging out his mouth!
Good point.
I probably should have chosen my words better. We have seen worse by the men and women in blue, but I’m not defending their actions. This looks over the top, and I’m sure a full investigation will tell more of the story.
I don’t care who you are. The second sentence in GK’s last take is damned funny.
Showed these vids to my Dad…34 year California Highway Patrol Veteran. His response…”the officers over reacted.”
He feels this is nothing more than unprofessional behavior by tired, annoyed officers…I have to agree.
FLY NAVY!
Dubito Ergo Cogito
Cogito Ergo Sum
Joy, that is seriously a horrid story.
The dissociation of your lawyer friend in describing the tactical advantage of using that defense is, to put it lightly, disturbing.
Answer to GK’s:
What I don’t get is the Right hates ABC; so why wouldn’t they rejoice a bit when Buford T. Justice puts a metrosexual journalist in a choke hold, with a cuban hanging out his mouth!
BECAUSE>>>>WRONG IS WRONG!! PUBLIC sidewalk====== Free speech area…..
That would be GK’s #160 statement…..
PBoilermaker - Yeup, seriously disturbing. That was one of the most shocking moments of our friendship.
Many times I’ve questioned if I wanted to remain friends with him. But he has changed and grown a lot over time and he credits our talks with a lot of it, so at least I feel I’m helping in a small way.
And he sees how Conservative ideas help his family far more than Leftist ones. He has a wife and 4 children now. He’s beginning to see how indoctrinated he got in law school (UCLA) and is taking a long look at his belief system.
Thanks, mistressjustice #128, I appreciate your sharing. Sorry for my long absence…I had to actually do some work today.
One of the many things that really continue to amaze me is the number of ordinary democrats who continue to fall for the liberals cover-up of who is running their party.
Many decent people who still call themselves democrat would tear their hair out if they knew the truth.
Michelle you and all the others on here keep working because as our voice gets a wider audience, the cover-up gets more difficult for the liberals.
And that is a good thing!
#168, who controls your party? Corporations? The Chinese govt? R. Murdoch?
Good question. Ask this again tomorrow after McCain announces his VP choice.
Ok mistressjustice I got your context on post #161. thanks
Let us ask Brett Bursey if the sidewalk is a Free Speech Zone. I wonder what he might say now that even the press has been arrested?