Conservatives played it coy

By see-dubya  •  August 29, 2008 11:14 PM

A while back I was seriously concerned about the possibility of a VP Lindsey Graham or a VP Joe Lieberman.

I’m still quite concerned about a Secretary of Labor Linda Chavez or a SecState Richard Armitage. But we dodged a big bullet there on the VP nomination, and I’m grateful.

I think that’s because conservatives knew instinctively that we were locked into a game of chicken with McCain, and the best strategy was to play it cool. Don’t rush to endorse, don’t slather him with money, and yet don’t shun him absolutely to the point that he gives up on us and tries to poach liberal votes instead.

As DoublePlusUndead memorably phrased it:

I haven’t decided what to do, but for those who are willing to eat the turd sandwich, why not try and at least score some condiments?

We played hard to get. And it worked. We got the condiments. Back in February I cautioned that “Have very low expectations about what is feasible here: if we can nudge him slightly right it will be quite an achievement.”

We did. Mmm, good sandwich. Well, better.

So, does this choice make me more likely to vote for McCain? Much.

But if he wants a sign in my yard, he’d better jettison Armitage and the counterproductive Juan Hernandez. (Hey, lefties…why aren’t you guys hitting McCain harder for having the prime Plamegate leaker leading his foreign policy team?)

And maybe that sign ought to look a little more like this:

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DISCLAIMER: This post does not constitute tooting my own horn; in no way do I think my post on the subject influenced this outcome in any measurable fashion. I think conservatives are just naturally savvy about these things. It’s why they do well in the private sector.

Oh, and this is purely my own opinion, written on my own time and on my own computer. So there.
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  1. #429105
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:18 pm, love2rumba said:

    If you want something worthwhile, hold out for it-never let anyone get your energies for cheap.

  2. #429107
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:18 pm, SF Bay Area Marine said:

    The GOP platform needs work.

    I think McCain heard a lot of us when we voted Romney in the Primary elections.

    Palin is a GO!

    McCain needs to CLOSE THE BOARDERS!

  3. #429108
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:19 pm, SF Bay Area Marine said:

    I meant to say, Voted for Romney in CA for the Primary election.

  4. #429112
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:21 pm, DaveC said:

    Little known fact about Sarah..

    She has gutted a moose.. and an unnamed liberal.

  5. #429113
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:21 pm, love2rumba said:

    I have an unfounded suspicion that by McCain picking Palin, he has already acknowledged he has been shafted by the illegals and their sycophants…McCain has a habit of turning on people whom he perceives as having screwed him (re:Grover Norquist faliure to endorse McCain in 2000)-this time it worked in our favor.

    Just a thought.

  6. #429116
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:24 pm, GaMidnightRider said:

    I agree See-Dubya. I just hope he will not strart this pandering to the hispanics by talking how the illegals are our brothers. I believe he is set with a good vp pick and has a chance to win the election if he does not do something stupid. The only way he will lose is if he starts the shamnesty and universal health care talk. I do not want to award law breakers nor do i want govt. in my choice of drs.
    I want FREEDOM FROM GOVT. not more FREEDOM OF GOVT.

  7. #429117
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:25 pm, love2rumba said:

    I also expect McCain to still offer a branch to the illegals from time to time, but the real energy in those efforts was deflated by the selection of Palin. Palin’s selection was a masterstroke.

  8. #429119
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:26 pm, teachem2 said:

    I think McCain finally listened to us and knew he needed to throw us a bone. What’s funny to me is watching the MSM, and even Fox, specifically O’Reilly, hearing all of the analysis of McCain choosing Palin as VP. They all think it’s nothing but trying to appeal to women, especially those who were supporting Hillary. It truly shows that they rely on identity politics because that’s what they see when they look at Palin. I’m excited because of what Palin has done in her short time as gov. and what she stands for, her values and beliefs.

  9. #429122
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:28 pm, teachem2 said:

    I believe he is set with a good vp pick and has a chance to win the election if he does not do something stupid.

    Never underestimate McCain’s ability to lose this election. I’m very energized with Palin as VP, but McCain has an unparalleled ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  10. #429132
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 pm, William Amos said:

    Just a spoonfull of Sugar makes the medicine go down….

  11. #429133
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:39 pm, Lifeofthemind said:

    love2rumba,
    Agreed. Both McCain and Bush believe that they are old fashioned Gentlemen. That is not a matter of policy. I’m sure there are Democrats who fit that description, certainly there used to be. It is not a matter simply of how a man behaves so much as how he believes he behaves. In other words it is how he believes his Father thinks he behaves. It is the code of Prescott Bush and Admiral McCain. They would be kind to women and children, they would pay a ten cent debt immediately, they would always make a guest feel welcome, they would kill you in a heart beat if they felt it was necessary. They were dinosaurs by current standards. Sometimes such men were committed to inclusion and tolerance and sometimes they were bigots but they all understood that code. The most important point in it is you do not tell a personal lie. That may get murky when it is a question in politics of whether Mr A is backing Mr B’s bill. Bush felt Linda Chavez had been economical with the truth to him and therefore she is out of his administration, no matter how much she agrees with the White House on policy. McCain is not a man I would want to promise things to and then forget.

  12. #429140
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:46 pm, bagoh20 said:

    There is plenty of talk out there today by conservatives fearing that Palin is a poor choice due to insufficient experience, although I disagree, it really is not important, because if helps McCain win, then we will dodge the real bullet on inexperience that is Obama. Winning is the only way to stop that bullet, and it’s all that matters if you are worried about inexperience. The Dems have forced that imperative on us.

  13. #429141
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:46 pm, uhangtight said:

    every time i received an email from mcain, i told him: look don’t bug me with your crap, i am not going to vote for you even though i was very involved in bush’s campaign, i am not going to help you until… i know who your VP is and until you turn on your shamnesty.

    well, i got a good VP. i am holding on to my shamnesty line and letting him know that i now feel that i don’t have to hold my nose, or ask his mom for those nose plugs she spoke of, but can actually now think of voting for someone not against someone.

    now my emails will read: okay, great choice, i am now going to vote for you and not have to hold my nose. but if you want my active involvement, $$ and time you better let me know that you have ousted juan hernandez or it is back to holding the nose.

  14. #429142
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:47 pm, Lifeofthemind said:

    McCain believes that he did not select Palin primarily because of her sex. He is no fool, he knows and welcomes the idea of exploiting the Hillary vs Obama politics. What he said was that he first was attracted to the idea of elevating Palin when he saw how she challenged corrupt Republicans in Alaska. His first target wasn’t Obama but Ted Stevens. McCain must have contempt for Stevens bordering on rage. He wants that seat to go to the Democrats in order to purify the Republican party. We can only hope that McCain can get in and craft a new majority in Congress that will take power away from Reid in the Senate and Pelosi in the House. It is a bold vision and it probably will fail but if it works this will be a different country.

  15. #429143
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:47 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    “Little known fact about Sarah..

    She has gutted a moose.. and an unnamed liberal.”

    That alone qualifies here for the VP position!

  16. #429144
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:48 pm, RetFireman said:

    I think he needs to continue to do exactly what he did today: Stand off to the side with a self-satisfied smile on his face while Sarah does all the talking. She is far more eloquent than any of the other three, and by far much easier to look at while she does it.

    if he is capable of allowing her to “Carry the Message”, he will, indeed, win over the disgruntled Hillary left-overs as well as a myriad of “Fence-Sitters” and “Moderates” whether they were for The golden Calf or not.

  17. #429147
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:52 pm, FamilyMan said:

    In the politics of food. We got a good slice of cheese on our burger with Palin. Thank you McCain/ Now jettison that bad pickle Hernandez

  18. #429149
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:53 pm, Socky said:

    How do we know McCain isn’t going to string conservatives along until he is sworn in, and then throw us to the wolves?

    What should we go on, the last eight months of his campaign, or his prior 20 years in the senate?

  19. #429150
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:53 pm, bagoh20 said:

    teachem2: “McCain has an unparalleled ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”

    Democrats are no slouches in that regard. i.e. Iraq.

  20. #429152
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:54 pm, uhangtight said:

    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:26 pm, teachem2 said:

    when it comes to experience, this is what i would say if i were mccain or palin: look, the VP is supposed to be on the job training, but the POTUS is supposed to be ready on day one for command. so far, as we see it, our ticket is POTUS ready on day one, VPOTUS in training. Where as the Dem Ticket is POTUS in training VPOTUS doing the training.

  21. #429153
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:54 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Well hell, least there’s no arugula on that sandwich.

    I bought arugula for the first time today; very sandy and had to be well washed. I personally think it would be better on a slice of pizza than served with a $50.00 plate of granola.

  22. #429155
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:56 pm, Papa Louie said:

    I just checked the MSNBC Website to see their reaction to the Palin anouncement. A few days ago they had nothing but positives things to say about Biden, but with Palin they are focusing on the negative:

    Roe v. Wade makes campaign comeback
    In response to McCain’s pick of Palin VP, Dems warn women that high court — and abortion rights — is at stake.
    (They have Palin’s picture just under this headline.)

    Palin under ethics probe

    Newsweek: Her stance on guns

    Palin praised Obama’s energy plan

    Democrats leave Denver on a high note, but there are lingering fears about their chances in November.

    That last headline makes it all worthwhile. :wink:

  23. #429157
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:57 pm, FamilyMan said:

    teachem2 said:
    ’m excited because of what Palin has done in her short time as gov. and what she stands for, her values and beliefs.

    That has bothered me all day. Thank you teachem2
    It’s not her plumbing that makes her a good choice, it’s her integrity.

  24. #429159
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:58 pm, nyc123me said:

    Still waiting to hear Palin’s stance on immigration.
    That’s the cruncher for me.

  25. #429160
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:58 pm, teachem2 said:

    bagoh20 said:
    teachem2: “McCain has an unparalleled ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”

    Democrats are no slouches in that regard. i.e. Iraq.

    Alas, that’s too true. I do think that McCain’s talent for dumb mistakes is not always deliberate as opposed to the Dems.

  26. #429162
    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:59 pm, uhangtight said:

    socky, i am sorry, but i think Palin won’t allow it, cause what i saw in here was complete integrity. that is why i am so confident, that mccain will work towards cleaning up DC. cause, that tough, strong woman will not allow him to sway..

  27. #429163
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:01 am, uhangtight said:

    sorry *in her..

  28. #429164
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:02 am, bagoh20 said:

    This is not about McCain anymore or us. It’s about the country. If McCain was half the conservative he is, or 25% of what we want, he would still be twice as good for the country as Obama. We simply must win even if he wanted to pick Juan H. for his running mate. Eye on the prize people, even if it burns.

  29. #429169
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:07 am, riggword said:

    see-dubya said,
    A while back I was seriously concerned about the possibility of a VP Lindsey Graham or a VP Joe Lieberman.

    I’m still quite concerned about a Secretary of Labor Linda Chavez or a SecState Richard Armitage. But we dodged a big bullet there on the VP nomination, and I’m grateful.

    Great point. I am now ready to support McCain wholeheartedly.

  30. #429170
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:07 am, CoffeeGuzzler said:

    Speaking of Condiments I’ll try anything that doesn’t have the name hienz on it. This is actually the 1st smart thing I’ve seen mccain do is ask Sarah Palin to be his vice. There is hope after all. Prayer does work ya know but sometimes God keeps us in suspense for a while.

  31. #429172
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:08 am, teachem2 said:

    bagoh20, to paraphrase a popular childrens’ author, it’s the difference between being dragged kicking and screaming into the lions den or walking in with your head held high. So many of us look to the POTUS (and by extension VPOTUS) to be a person who governs by closely held principles and the choice of Sarah Palin will make all the difference in the world in how we view this ticket.

  32. #429173
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:08 am, WarEagle82 said:

    I voted for Huckabee in the VA primary although I doubt I would have supported “Huck” in the November election. I just wanted to send a message to McCain that I wasn’t going to vote for a RINO in November.

    Generally speaking a VP selection can only hurt. In this case that may not apply because McCain was already so weak that a solid conservative VP pick may win back some disgruntled conservatives.

    It doesn’t help me because I believe McCain selected Palin just for that reason and I don’t think she will sway his opinion where and when it really matters. VPs don’t usually carry that much clout in an administration.

    One thing for sure, this election is not like recent elections. We have the two worst nominees that I can remember. But, I am only 47 so what do I know.

  33. #429176
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:10 am, uhangtight said:

    bagoh20, you are right. obamitler must absolutely lose this race. not because of his race, but because of his self absorption and his demagogy. he actually believes his own hype. i am the one we have been waiting for…

    omg.. help us.. this is really a hitler mentality

  34. #429181
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:21 am, FamilyMan said:

    Everybody, repeat after me
    Only a heartbeat away
    Only a heartbeat away

  35. #429182
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:23 am, uhangtight said:

    exactly family man.. just think.. only a heart beat away and we have a real conservative!!!

  36. #429185
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:24 am, FamilyMan said:

    Everyone again repeat after me
    Hold his feet to the fire
    Hold his feet to the fire

  37. #429186
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:25 am, regularguy said:

    McCain may have a resurgent conservative base with Palin’s selection, but now is the time to flood his campaign not with cash so much as with guarantees of cash when he drops the amnesty BS and drops Armitage. Out here, we untamed masses must hold his feet to the fire. The benefit of Palin’s choice will be to lure the moderate women to the fold; the leftists will never vote for McCain anyway. Therefore the conservative base and just enough moderate women must be catered to. And it’s up to us to demand it.

    That being said, any one of us out here (except for the verminous trolls) would have a far better foreign policy background than Obama, simply by virtue of our ideology and common sense. I don’t care how much foreign policy experience you have, if you’re a liberal buffoon like Biden, you’re still wrong on foreign policy. Palin’s belief system, centered on common sense and a fundamental understanding of human behavior and not wishful thinking or a natural trust of duplicitous enemies that liberals inherently have, will get her through the quick study she’ll undoubtedly have to undergo to get up to speed. No matter how much study Obama/Biden undergoes on either foreign or domestic policy, they’ll still be wrong. Palin’s life experiences in the field lend much more to her relative inexperience in foreign affairs than the sheltered background Obama and Biden claim to have, which was more leftist indocrination than anything else.

  38. #429187
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:26 am, FamilyMan said:

    Oops. Me bad. He’s already been tortured.

  39. #429188
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:27 am, Cicero said:

    I did something today that I thought I’d never do. I went to McCain’s website and donated $100.

    Maybe McCain is trainable to go conservative on the important decisions. Every time he makes a good call, I’ll throw him another fish.

  40. #429190
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:31 am, simcoe said:

    I think conservatives are just naturally savvy about these things. It’s why they do well in the private sector.

    One might also say that while the libs seem to snap the hair trigger emotional response before any intelligent thought, and then refuse to admit error even when confronted with truth, conservatives are slower, more methodical, chewing up and digesting the facts, watching for the final outcome, and then–just pull the lever.

  41. #429192
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:31 am, FamilyMan said:

    I’ve been on blogs for years and this group of Michelle”s is best spoken and well read bunch I’ve ever seen. Good job folks!!!

  42. #429196
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:38 am, bagoh20 said:

    I donated to McCain today too. Now I know what the choice is and it’s an easy one. Time to pick a side, period. Let’s do this!

  43. #429202
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:48 am, granite said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:25 am, regularguy said:

    any one of us out here (except for the verminous trolls) would have a far better foreign policy background than Obama, simply by virtue of our ideology and common sense. I don’t care how much foreign policy experience you have, if you’re a liberal buffoon like Biden, you’re still wrong on foreign policy.

    I’ve been thinking exactly the same thing today.

    Would anyone here actually be reassured if the “experienced” Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, or Jimmy Carter were the one responding to a dangerous world situation?

  44. #429203
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:52 am, uhangtight said:

    granite.. nope. as a matter of fact if the experienced of the left were responding. as i have lived through jimmy carter’s responses, i can tell you nope, positively no. no way no how nope.. nada.. no sir..rie..not at all.

    jimmy carter was the most incompetant president in my life time. he was lousy as a president and he is even more lousy as a ‘retired’ president.

    i can clearly say withoug quivocation, without hesitation.. NO>> never..

  45. #429205
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:56 am, nyc123me said:

    You sure about that now, uhangtight? *grin*

  46. #429206
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:00 am, Christian Soldier said:

    I never thought I’d be writing this : I’ve been blogging, checking “Wiki”, and writing comments almost ALL DAY on various blog sites-and e-messaging my excitement to my friends and family…!

    Last August I started reading this site and a couple of the sites from the side -bar–I didn’t even LIKE computers last year—NOW…..
    see-dubya..
    (This was written on my own computer on my own time)
    :-)

  47. #429208
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:05 am, uhangtight said:

    christian soldier.. glad you are here!

  48. #429211
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:10 am, alamedaman said:

    how about ditch Mcsame, Palin/Jindal 08

  49. #429214
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:20 am, WarEagle82 said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:52 am, uhangtight said:
    jimmy carter was the most incompetant president in my life time. he was lousy as a president and he is even more lousy as a ‘retired’ president.

    Carter may go down in history as the worst president ever, unless Obama wins. Obamaessiah could give Carter a run for that title.

    And Carter has turned out to be a truly despicable person in his retirement. When he left office I thought he was a decent human, if utterly misguided and incompetent. Now, I don’t see how I could hold him in any lower regard. But, I am sure he will demonstrate how with his next book or speech.

  50. #429216
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:21 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Okay, that ticket gets me back in the GOP.

    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:10 am, alamedaman said:
    how about ditch Mcsame, Palin/Jindal 08

  51. #429219
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:24 am, RetFireman said:

    You know what? We have all learned more about Palin in the last 13 hours than anyone has learned about The Golden Calf in the last 13 months!

  52. #429223
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:33 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Oh, that is sooo not helping Michelle’s children!

  53. #429227
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:51 am, bj1126 said:

    I still maintain that it was the McCain campaign playing us and the media for free press during the Democrat convention. I don’t think he had any real notion to choose Lieberman or Ridge or any of the other pro choice quasi liberal candidates they talked about.

    However what better way to get people talking and the media paying attention than to send out the idea that McCain might be sticking it to conservatives again? Their campaign has been exceedingly savvy the past couple months. I absolutely believe it possible that they would do this just for that purpose.

  54. #429232
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:08 am, RetFireman said:

    I refuse to be that cynical, nor do I belive that McCain and the rest of the Party will be treating us as the Dems treat their side.

  55. #429236
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:15 am, Send_Me said:

    I haven’t decided what to do, but for those who are willing to eat the turd sandwich, why not try and at least score some condiments?

    This reminds me of two other sayings: “You can’t polish a turd.” And, “The best indicator of future performance is past and present performance.” I’m still going to abstain from eating the “turd sandwich” and write in either Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson in the hopes of getting a good steak instead. (I’ll never be so hungry as to eat a turd.)

  56. #429244
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:32 am, allrsn said:

    I agree ed, I love the palin pick! but I still worry about McCain. Yet we have influenced him twice now, maybe just maybe he will be a good pres.

  57. #429245
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:35 am, Bill Grant said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:15 am, Send_Me said:

    …and write in either Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson in the hopes of getting a good steak instead.

    1) they are not running so they will get the grand total of 1 vote.

    2) they have endorsed McCain.

  58. #429247
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:38 am, Send_Me said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:35 am, Bill Grant said:
    1) they are not running so they will get the grand total of 1 vote.
    2) they have endorsed McCain.

    Well, it still beats eating a turd, yes?
    “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” ~John Quincy Adams

  59. #429253
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:21 am, atheling said:

    McCain may have a resurgent conservative base with Palin’s selection, but now is the time to flood his campaign not with cash so much as with guarantees of cash when he drops the amnesty BS and drops Armitage. Out here, we untamed masses must hold his feet to the fire

    .

    We need to build the fence first.

    Gotta stop the bleeding before anything else.

  60. #429255
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:30 am, atheling said:

    “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” ~John Quincy Adams

    Yeah, and I bet he never dreamed that a candidate as clueless as Obama would appear, and that there would be so many equally clueless Americans who would vote for him.

    Be as innocent as doves, but as cunning as serpents.

  61. #429260
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:27 am, Republican (By Default) said:

    I second that, see-dubya… well… ‘cept for the part about the sandwich.

  62. #429269
    On August 30th, 2008 at 6:57 am, Jaded said:

    I donated to the RNC yesterday for the first time in over 2 years….that is how excited I am by this pick. I think they will be able to look at yesterday as a big day for money and correlate the two :-0 Give Conservatives a conservative and you get money give us conservatives in liberal clothing and you get PUBLIC FINANCING.

  63. #429276
    On August 30th, 2008 at 8:21 am, Jaded said:

    that should be liberals in consevative clothing…..did not have my caffeine yet!

  64. #429279
    On August 30th, 2008 at 8:31 am, Flyoverman said:

    The MSM is paniced and has lost ALL objectivity. All I hear from them is risky, not experinced blah, blah, blah….

    What is they do not see or will not report is that all of this nation’s, conservatives, who have been sitting around listlessly, have grabbed their guns, sharpened their knives, and are racing headlong ino the fight for the White House. I can honestly say I have not felt or seen this since Reagan. Whooot.

    Be afraid libs, be very afraid. Determined conservatives and angry women are coming.

  65. #429280
    On August 30th, 2008 at 8:37 am, hadsil said:

    I didn’t see how McCain could do it, but he did. How could he 1) Get conservatives to want to vote for him and publicly praise him 2) Not upset the non-conservative Republicans who gave him the nomination 3) Halt the Obama momentum and 4) Woo the alienated Hillary voters?
    Oh, he’s good!

  66. #429281
    On August 30th, 2008 at 8:42 am, zorro said:

    Good to see you back see-dubya.

    Palin was a very good choice. Being so use to Juan sticking his thumb in our eyes, this selection actually surprised me. But I am going to wait and see what the convention brings us. I want to hear about the border issue, taxes, freedom of political speech, the War on Terror and Gitmo.

    PS – I will remain registered as “no party affiliation”. Maybe, after two terms of Palin/Jindal I might switch back to “Republican”.

  67. #429282
    On August 30th, 2008 at 8:46 am, ex-expat said:

    Hate to be a spoiler, but isn’t the shot from the video clip on the other post, the one showing Palin ready to shoot bogus?

    I too wear glasses and have also used a rifle with a scope. I have also had to remove my glasses before sighting the target through the scope, otherwise the target would just be a blur.

  68. #429284
    On August 30th, 2008 at 8:52 am, Lindsay said:

    Flyoverman said:

    Determined conservatives and angry women are coming.

    Yes,Flyover, and I am both.

    Exciting times for the GOP—it has been a long time coming. Watching the media play this “lack of experience” meme is telling me that is all they can think of for a negative spin. There is a bolt of energy in the GOP I have not seen since 2000.

  69. #429287
    On August 30th, 2008 at 8:59 am, corona said:

    Reality check – when has a VP nominee ever been shown to have materially affected the Presidential election?

  70. #429291
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:06 am, walterc said:

    My thinking is that, if the left thinks she’s a bad choice, she’s the right choice.

    In listening to FOX last night, every liberal comment was about why she is a bad choice. If she were really that bad of a choice they would be exploiting her faults rather than complaining. Colmes in particular seems way pissed that she’s on the ticket.

  71. #429292
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:07 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    There is an awful lot of yapping about Governor Palin not having experience by an awful lot of people who do not impress me. I believe it was Billy Crystal getting into Mort Kondracke’s remark that the Governor lacked experience: Appearing on 60 minutes and attending Washington DC cocktail partys is the Beltway’s definition of experience, not necessarily the rest of America’s definition. Bob Beckel of the Left has slammed her as making Dan Quayle looking Jeffersonian.

    Governor Palin impresses me. Bob Beckel, Mort Kondracke and a lot of talking heads of the Left do not. When these life long political operatives talk of experience it reminds me more of Long Criminal Record than anything positive.

    Of course Joe Biden rides the Amtrak Train twice a day, that is experience. So we can offer him a job as a car cleaner. I tried to watch Chris, the Tingle, Matthew’s take on the situation. The remote control balked.

    Just another bitter American clinging to my God and guns (gas guzzling, global warming pick-up truck too!)

  72. #429293
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:10 am, Vince said:

    ex-expat #67
    No you do not have to remove your glasses to shot a scoped rifle. The scope has sight adjustments as well as windage adjustments.

  73. #429294
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:11 am, beenthere said:

    I like Sarah. I really, really do. But it appears to me that too many people are treating her like the anti-Obama, the person who will lead conservatives out of the wilderness and back to the true faith. People, she’s a human being and a politician. Let’s get real. Last time I looked McCain is still in charge, more than even in fact, and I have serious doubts he will change a single one of his unappetizing positions. The man is a formidable campaigner (it looks like everyone left and right underestimated him in that regard), but I don’t trust him.

    Sometime very soon (if it hasn’t happened already), the following will take place:

    “My friend Sarah,” a beaming John McCain said as he walked into the room accompanied by a person she had never met before, “I want you to meet my little friend Juan Hernandez. He will explain why this country needs millions and millions of his buddies with dubious driving skills and lusting for welfare bennies to, ahem, keep the price of lettuce down and maybe — you’re going to love this — a tiny percentage will vote Republican and then we will be the majority party forever. Isn’t that just swell?!”

    And then Sarah will know how it’s done in the beltway and yes, she will sit down and take notes.

  74. #429295
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:11 am, Vince said:

    sorry “shoot” not “shot”.

  75. #429296
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:12 am, backwoods conservative said:

    The good news is McCain picked the kind of running mate conservatives wanted him to pick. The bad news is the Republican party fielded the kind of Presidential candidate who would make that a surprise to us.

  76. #429297
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:13 am, sonofdy said:

    While normaly the vp pick does not affect the election, it may do this time since the liberals are busy (at least at huffpo) demanding that she go back to her house and take care of her kids. I guess they think a womans place is in the home. You women have got to get back in your place. How dare you do things like run for national office. /dnc activist mode off.

  77. #429298
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:14 am, NC BLUE said:

    Governor Palin will appeal to a wide range of voters-strong family values, pro life, gun toter, hockey player, fisherman, fiscal conservative, anti pork barrel spending. Pelosi wants a bog ol personal jet to jet her family and friends around. Palin gets rid of the state plane to save $$$. Having said all that McCain is the kind of guy who is at a party where everyone is having a great time and he slips a turd into the punch bowl for kicks.

  78. #429299
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:15 am, ex-expat said:

    I find it rich, the comment in this morning’s WAPO from Debbie Dingell, wife of Rep. (D) Dingell, who has attacked Palin’s nomination as “pandering”.

  79. #429301
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:17 am, jangar said:

    On August 29th, 2008 at 11:52 pm, FamilyMan said:
    In the politics of food. We got a good slice of cheese on our burger with Palin. Thank you McCain/ Now jettison that bad pickle Hernandez

    Don’t forget the rotten onion Armitage too…pick ‘em off and toss ‘em out the window.

  80. #429302
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:18 am, sonofdy said:

    #67 ex-pat, also its an M-16 or M4. Both hardly kick at all. You can literaly put your nose to the charging handle to keep a good consistant sight picture, which I do. So you could remove your glasses or leave them on, it wouldn’t matter.

  81. #429303
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:19 am, Vince said:

    You know, some of you anti-McCain people are really getting tedious! In order to sustain good health and to be successful and motivated in life, you must keep the negative, cynical and just all around poo-poo influences out of your life and that’s why I have to get away from this site every now and then.

    Please, don’t tell me you are being realistic. I know you won’t vote for McCain even if your Mom was on the ticket.

    If the shoe fits, wear it!

  82. #429304
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:19 am, ex-expat said:

    To Vince.

    So in all these years I was laboring (shooting) under a misconception. But that asisde, wouldn’t/isn’t your vision/concentration affected by stuff in your peripheral vision by not having your eye firmly in the scope sight: i.e., shooting with glasses on?

  83. #429305
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:20 am, sonofdy said:

    Oh the left is going to slime this woman like nothing you have seen. She is going to affect the election simply because of the way she is going to be treated. The lefts smartest move would be to simply shut up about her. But they can seem to do that about anything.

  84. #429306
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:22 am, ex-expat said:

    Sonofdy:

    That could explain much. The gun I have used was a 30-06 semi auotmatic, which needs to be held very firmly.

  85. #429307
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:22 am, tiredofit08 said:

    We should make it a daily thing to ping McCain…yea we love your VP pick but you need to dump Juan Hernandez and Armitage or you may not get my vote…better yet make it a Monday morning and Friday afternoon routine…

  86. #429308
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:23 am, Vince said:

    ex-expat – see # 80

  87. #429309
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:25 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 8:59 am, corona said:

    Reality check – when has a VP nominee ever been shown to have materially affected the Presidential election?

    The only one I can think of is 1960 when Lyndon Johnson’s machine guaranteed Texas to Kennedy. As always LBJ was able to bring out the graveyard and never was vote.

    But this pick is more for the Conservative base of the Party right at the moment. Many of the usual Party workers and contributors have been sitting on their hands and wallets. This has reminded me a lot of 1992. So we ended up with our first BabyDaddy, Miss Hillary and the insults to Tammy Wynette.
    [Reverence and a tear inserted here]

    Just another bitter American clinging to my God and guns (gas guzzling, global warming pick-up truck too!)

  88. #429311
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:26 am, happyscrapper said:

    Another Vice President who likes to hunt and shoot? Wait until the libs pick up on that comparison to Cheney! Ha! I have been thinking ahead four years. McCain is not running for a second term. Palin is the logical candidate for President in four years. By that time, she will have more experience AND people will know her and probably love her. Thus, in four years, we could have a strong conservative, Christian, NRA member President of the United States. What a dream! Please, God, let it come true.

  89. #429314
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:30 am, sonofdy said:

    ex-expat. I understand, i wouldn’t wear my glasses for that either. Its a risk wearing them to shoot an m203 as well. I have seen a guy break his nose shooting an m203.

  90. #429315
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:30 am, Vince said:

    happyscrapper:
    It’s positive, uplifting really neato people like you that makes me come back to this site time after time. Even you name has “happy” in it!

  91. #429318
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:36 am, happyscrapper said:

    Vince…Thanks for the compliment! I am new on this blog, just got in a couple weeks ago. Interesting that one of the trolls wrote a nasty note directed to me and referred to me as “happys crapper”. I just thanked him for the funny comment.

  92. #429320
    On August 30th, 2008 at 9:38 am, PatriotRider said:

    ex-expat said:

    Do what it takes to hit the target and practice, practice, practice. If it works better for you to take the eyeglasses off then do it. For us who need them to see clearly in the distance (find the target) it’s more fluid to leave them on while shooting.

  93. #429339
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:02 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Oh, and this is purely my own opinion, written on my own time and on my own computer. So there.

    Did you get some stupid email from lgm about your inability to have an original thought? HMMMMM? LOL

    Palin/Jindal O8 or Jindal/Palin O8 works for me. We could win some seats back as well. Shoot, I would send some money in for that ticket!!

  94. #429340
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:02 am, happyscrapper said:

    I just wanted to go off topic for a minute to say…I think the commenters on this blog are the most insightful, common sense, well educated, well spoken people in the country. I know there are a lot of good folks out there and this group represents the very best of them. I have been reading this blog and the comments for a very long time and they make my day, every day. Not only are they thoughtful, but also witty and sometimes downright hilarious! (like when one commenter said they’d better not publish nude photos of Joe Biden!) I laugh, I cry, I love being with people who have the same value system and beliefs as I do. There are occasional disagreements, as in all families. But the bottom line is, Michelle Malkin is a national treasure and you are all the jewels!

  95. #429349
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:10 am, CW4_KGP said:

    #55, Enough condiments can make it palatable. If you toss that vote as a protest, expect 4 years of a virtual buffet of turds, with everything from organically raised turds to turds and arugula ala carte….Fred the man or Duncan would have been good choices, I am sure….but giving them your vote in essence is one that “THE ONE” does not have to overcome. Think. Think. Think. Do you want “THE ONE” and Saint Oprah dictating where this country is going for the next 4 years? We need adult supervision and leadership, and “THE ONE” is not that at all.

  96. #429352
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:11 am, backwoods conservative said:

    Thanks for the kind words, happyscrapper. This a nice community to be a part of. Welcome aboard!

    I remember choosing not sign up the first time Michelle opened registration. I couldn’t think of anything I would have to say. I’ve found my voice since then and I’m grateful for a place to use it. I’ve made some really good friends along the way as well.

  97. #429362
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am, CW4_KGP said:

    #93, while the tickey described could work, it’s not the cards we are dealt. Let’s play those cards, and take the win now. There is a future….and the pot will only get bigger.

    This can give the conservatives time to develop new talent and fill in their resumes – people like Jindal and Palin and quite a few others, and position ourselves for the next generation of Pelosis’, Boxers, Gregoires, and all the rest…Hillary will be the next Ted Kennedy in 2012…and her ideas will be just as wrong then.

    Let’s take what we have, work to make it the best, and build for tomorrow!

  98. #429363
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am, CW4_KGP said:

    oops, TICKET, not tickey.

  99. #429368
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:20 am, TMoney said:

    As stated before, I’m voting for the VP in this election. Palin’s record, so far as I’ve heard, works for me.

    IMPEACH MCCAIN! (I’m nothing close to a fan of his).

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