Palin for America: A true conservative: “She knows when to stand up and doesn’t let anyone tell her to sit down”

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 29, 2008 11:03 AM

Scroll down for updates…vid of the announcement at HA

The announcement from Dayton will start any minute. There’s a new rock star in town. Conservatives are full of Hope that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will bring much-needed Change to McCain Republicanism.

Catch the fever.

I’m starting a new thread and kicking off discussion with this YouTube ad from Palin supporters.

Yes, I’m impressed. Very impressed.

Flashback: You go, girl: Alaska GOP Gov. will sue Bush administration over polar bear listing

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The official statement from McCain:

U.S. Senator John McCain today announced that he has selected Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to be his running mate and to serve as his vice president.

Governor Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president. She has brought Republicans and Democrats together within her Administration and has a record of delivering on the change and reform that we need in Washington.

Governor Palin has challenged the influence of the big oil companies while fighting for the development of new energy resources. She leads a state that matters to every one of us – Alaska has significant energy resources and she has been a leader in the fight to make America energy independent.

In Alaska, Governor Palin challenged a corrupt system and passed a landmark ethics reform bill. She has actually used her veto and cut budgetary spending. She put a stop to the “bridge to nowhere” that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.

As the head of Alaska’s National Guard and as the mother of a soldier herself, Governor Palin understands what it takes to lead our nation and she understands the importance of supporting our troops.

Governor Palin has the record of reform and bipartisanship that others can only speak of. Her experience in shaking up the status quo is exactly what is needed in Washington today.

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The ACU raves:

CONSERVATIVES HAIL MCCAIN VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICK

(Minneapolis, MN) – David Keene, Chairman of the American Conservative Union, has issued the following statement on Republican Presidential Candidate John McCain’s pick of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate.

“The selection of Governor Palin is great news for conservatives, for the party and for the country. Her dedication to principle, her courage both before and after her election as Governor of Alaska and her personal qualities make her a perfect choice for Vice President. I predict any conservatives who have been lukewarm thus far in their support of the McCain candidacy will work their hearts out between now and November for the McCain – Palin ticket.”

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Jennifer Rubin at PJM:

…Palin will argue that in fact Obama has no more experience than she does, and that Palin has the advantage of sharing McCain’s views (and thus being right) on the surge, Russian ambitions, and meetings with state terror sponsors. The VP debate against Biden may be dicey, but the McCain camp knows full well that a vice-presidential debate isn’t going to make or break their candidate. In short, McCain is hoping that Palin is good enough on this score for a number two pick against a Democratic ticket headed by a man with virtually the same meager national security credentials.

As to the second, Palin has much to offer McCain. On a non-political level few can doubt her Q-factor. (She will be the first former beauty queen to run on a national ticket.) The daughter of a teacher and mother of five, she has an ebullient personality and an excellent TV presence. The Right will be entranced : a pro-life hunter with a passion for domestic energy development? And in the battle for “change” she has the record of reform and the identity of a complete Washington outsider. Finally, as a lifelong NRA member, an outdoorswoman, and a western governor she may provide extra help in mountain and western states such as Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico which are certain to be in play.

On the policy front, Palin can make the case that the Democratic program of higher taxes, more spending, and a government takeover of health care is a proven loser. She will argue that she can bring practical experience from as far outside the Beltway as one can get. And, of course, the presence of a woman on the ticket creates instantaneous excitement and puts into play Clinton voters looking for a new champion.

The pick also tells us something about McCain: he thinks he can win. He was not willing to rock the boat with his conservative base. He can use Palin on offense to make a run at women voters and on defense to blunt the populist attacks from the Democrats. And it shows he understands the need to generate enthusiasm and “newness” in his own campaign.

Ed Morrissey: Change conservatives can believe in!

LifeNews has an excellent overview of Palin’s staunch, pro-life activism.

James Pethokoukis sends the 10 Things You Didn’t Know About Sarah Palin:

. Sarah Louise Palin (nee Heath) was born Feb., 1964, in Sandpoint, Idaho. Her family moved to Alaska when Sarah was an infant. Her father, Chuck, is a retired schoolteacher.

2. She attended Wasilla High School where she played point guard on the state champion basketball team. Her nickname was “Sarah Barracuda.”

3. Palin graduated in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a degree in journalism. She worked briefly as a sports reporter in Anchorage.

4. She refers to her husband, Todd, as the “First Dude.” He’s worked as a commercial fisherman and as a production operator on the North Slope for BP. He enjoys snowmobiling and has won the Tesoro Iron Dog, billed as the world’s longest snowmobile race, four times.

5. Palin and her husband have five children, Bristol, Piper, Track, Willow, and Trig. Trig, born in 2008, has been diagnosed with Down syndrome. Her son Track joined the army in 2007.

6. Her favorite meal is moose stew.

7. She comes from a family of outdoor enthusiasts. Her parents, Chuck and Sally Heath, enjoy hunting and fishing, and have both completed marathons.

8. Palin was named Miss Wasilla in 1984 and was a runner-up for Miss Alaska. In 1996 she was elected mayor of Wasilla.

9. She’s a lifetime NRA member and enjoys hunting, fishing, and snowmobiling.

10. Elected in 2006, she’s Alaska’s first female governor and the youngest governor elected in the state.
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12:22pm Eastern. McCain: It is with great pride and gratitude that I tell you that I have the right partner for those who value their responsibilities over their privileges, someone who has fought corruption, stopped government from wasting taxpayers’ money…someone with executive experience, who has shown great tenacity and skill in tackling tough problems, especially our dependence on foreign oil, someone with strong principles, a fighting spirit, and deep compassion, someone who grew up in a decent, hard-working middle-class family…

Good stuff: “She knows when to stand up and doesn’t let anyone tell her to sit down…She’s exactly who I need, she’s exactly who this country needs…”

Really good.

The next vice president of the United States, Gov. Sarah Palin of the great state of Alaska.

Huge roar of applause. Huge.

Obama-Biden has to be in full snit-fit mode.

And Hillary must be experiencing a schadenfreude-licious moment right now.

It’s McCain’s birthday and the Palins’ 20th anniversary today.

12:44pm Eastern. Palin gives props to Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton. “The women of America aren’t finished yet…We can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all!”

Palin coopts the Hope and Change mantra. Sweet.

Audience coopts “Yes, we can!” Sweet.

God bless America!

For real.

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  1. #901
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:26 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Me thinks in the military it’s called “getting outflanked.” But we’ll see, the libs and Obama are scrambling. Bet you wish you assh*les didn’t ditch Hillary now. There is a bond between women that crosses party lines you will find.

  2. #902
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:27 am, Trollman said:

    freemind25 said:

    LOL…this is hilarious. Yea she will fire up the base, but the base is alot smaller than it used to be. Maybe 20% of the country tops.

    The reason why the base is so small is because Republicans have been corrupt and no longer stand for conservative ideals. She is a conservative and will increase the size of the base, just look at people’s response on this site.

    freemind25 said:

    Obama has been in the national spot light for nearly 4 years and people STILL claim they don’t know who he is. We are expected to find out all of Palin’s views in two short months???

    That is because Obama does everything he can to hide who he really is. Not so with Palin. With just her speech yesterday, I already know far more about her guiding principles than I do about Obama’s.

  3. #903
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:30 am, mojoe said:

    Big difference between a strong woman like Palin and a shrill harpy a la Hillary or Bela Pelosi.

    McCain/Palin in a landslide.

  4. #904
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:32 am, CO2 Producer said:

    History will be made no matter who wins now.

  5. #905
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:32 am, Jimmie said:

    Pretty good comment session, Someone may have said this?….but the MSN and old Byden being what they are are going to have to tell her to “SIT DOWN”…I can’t wait…will be wounderfull…..

  6. #906
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:32 am, dj said:

    freemind25 said:

    Obama has been in the national spot light for nearly 4 years and people STILL claim they don’t know who he is. We are expected to find out all of Palin’s views in two short months???

    Actually, we DO know who he is and it is terrifying. Why doesn’t it bother you that he fraternizes with terrorists and haters? That he has buddies like Rezko? That he is THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR of them all??? If what is known about your little friend BO doesn’t scare the hell out of you, your opinion is meaningless, as you obviously have the same poor judgment (to say the very least) as B. HUSSEIN O.

  7. #907
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:37 am, Lockstein13 said:

    One may say they “know where a candidate stands on all of the issues,” but seeing as how many of those stands are just plain wrong, that’s just another nail in The Obamboozler’s campaign coffin.

    And…I can only imagine his “work across the aisle in the Senate” included the trips across the hall to get to the bathroom. “Puffed-up resume” fake claims of activity and accomplishments only serve to underline the charlatan that is The Obamboozler.

  8. #908
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:46 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Hmmm, let’s see how excited those Hillary supporters are for Obama, shall we?

  9. #909
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:48 am, freemind25 said:

    LOL the more I see a lack of a cognitive argument for Palin on any issue other than social issues and energy the more confident I am this election will be a landslide. Mccain is 72 years old the actuarial odds of him passing in the next few years is nothing to sneeze at. Ask yourself, is she prepared to go toe to toe with Vladimir Putin? Does she know anything about the situation in Georgia? Pakistan? Iran? Iraq? Maybe she does, so far I haven’t seen it. The unabashed support for her without knowing her views on these issues are laughable. I thought that terrorism was the most important issue of our times. I thought Russia is ready to refight the Cold War. Shouldn’t you find out how well versed she is on these issues before offering full throated support. Oh, and the more you mention Wright, Ayers, him being a radical, the more confident I am Obama will win this election. It reeks of desperation.

  10. #910
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:49 am, RetFireman said:

    So, ‘m having trouble getting back to sleep, decided to go slumming into Unholy Lands in places like Democratic Underground to see what types of filth are being said over there. I know, I know…I was most definately a “Pilgrim in an unholy land”, but I have seen bodies and brains smeared on the pavement and worse in my career, so I figured that I could handle it. What I found there was both interesting and beyond disgusting. Thought I would share some of it for your perusal and discussion.

    The first one I find to be very telling. It seems that the things these “Caring and tolerant” Liberals are saying are really turning off their “base”. McCain’s choice just may have been even better than he thought she was. It appears as though the common Dem and basic Liberal is getting quite an education in those that they are aligning themselves with, and are going to find out that everything they have been told about Conservatives and Republicans are nothing more than filthy lies told by these types. Check it out:

    B2G (293 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author’s profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-29-08 04:05 PM
    Original message
    Today, I am ashamed to be a DU member

    Advertisements [?]
    I’ve been here a long time. Not a prolific poster, but a prolific reader. And from what I’ve read today, I don’t belong here anymore.

    Women being bashed for their right to choose having a family and a career with the support of their spouse.

    Women being called sluts, bimbos and brood mares.

    Women having their appearance dissected and witchhunts for compromising photos.

    Innocent young girls being slandered with rumors & innuendos.

    Enough. I want to win. But I don’t want to win this way. And if you do, then I don’t want any part of it.

    Wow…just how many more like this person are there?

    busymom (901 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author’s profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-29-08 04:08 PM
    Response to Original message
    2. I know…It’s ridiculous!

    I feel exactly the same way! It is such a turn off.

    Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author’s profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-29-08 04:08 PM
    Response to Original message
    3. What? You’re putting humanity before party?

    What’s gotten into you?

    (To be clear, I agree with you right down the line.)

    So, what got her to make this statement? Apparently they are claiming that she was never pregnant and that her new-born is actually her daughters and that she lied about the whole thing, for one:

    Boz (951 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author’s profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-30-08 12:13 AM
    Response to Reply #3
    9. The Mona Lisa Smile, and the body language of the photo composition

    It may very well have been this photo that made her come up with the “cover story” when she found out the truth.

    I even question the downs syndrome angle at this point, photos I have seen of the child point to Inuit anthropology and coloring more than downs syndrome.

    Questioning whether or not she is lying about her child having DS? Excuse me? Or maybe it was something like this:

    libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author’s profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-30-08 12:43 AM
    Response to Reply #32
    36. Her junk is fair game since she insists that MY junk is HER fair game. n/t

    Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author’s profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-30-08 08:23 AM
    Response to Original message
    4. A vice presedent he can f**k. Who said republicans don’t have new ideas.

    Husb2Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author’s profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-29-08 09:40 PM
    Response to Reply #3
    4. Oh goodie …. just what we need

    A slutty librarian.

    Actually, she **does** look like the porno lead character who we’re to see as mousy because she wears her hair up and has glasses. If she goes to remove her glasses ……. watch out!

    ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author’s profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-29-08 08:40 PM
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    9. There are questions about whether the child is even hers. Updated at 11:40 PM

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph…

    riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-30-08 01:54 AM
    Response to Reply #8
    13. Supposedly, they’re named after towns in Alaska.

    ‘Track’ supposedly is for where the child was conceived. On a running track? A track machine? A copy of Road and Track?

    Either way- EEWW.

    Believe me when I say there are much worse that I can’t even think to share or re-post here. There is also a great deal of editting going on. I am not sure whether to encourage folks to go see for themselves or not…that is your own choice but if you do, be prepared to be left with the worst taste in your mouth given to you by people that for years have claimed to be “Champions For Women’s Rights” and tolerant, non-judgemental, non-sexist and any number of other terms. Yup, from the people that brought you Political Correctness, this is how they treat a woman who is not, “One Of US”.

    Sorry about the length of the post. The editing of the language was mine…they do no such thing.

  11. #911
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:50 am, mojoe said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:25 am, freemind25 said:
    Although I guess you could say running a campaign is executive experience. How has Obama fared with that?

    Pretty damned lousy I’d say.

    How many retractions?
    -”No Experience…um, congrats, historic pick, blah, blah, blah!”

    His Sermon in the Temple of Narcissus and it’s MSM toungebath interrupted by McCain’s blockbuster pick.

    His campaign wasn’t ready for this. And combined with the inevitable bounce from the convention (and the newly energized conservative base), methinks it’s coming to twilight time for Obama’s 15 minutes.

    His desperate thrashings will increasingly show women that what democrats say and what democrats do, are polar opposites.

  12. #912
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:58 am, fmfnavydoc said:

    Read this over at Patterico – when she a member of the ethics council in AK, and resigned in protest over the conduct of members of the council that were part of the machine, she wrote an editorial that stated “the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom is the lipstick”. She was also know as “Sarah Barracuda” due to he competitiveness on the B-ball court, and her approach to clearing out corruption in city government.

    This does not sound like a person that you want to lie to or steal from at any time…

  13. #913
    On August 30th, 2008 at 10:58 am, PercyJ said:

    freemind25 said:
    As for executive experience, I guess Palin is more experienced than Mccain than, as he has 0 executive experience. Although I guess you could say running a campaign is executive experience. How has Obama fared with that?

    Uhmm.. John McCain’s military service more than qualifies. It’s called leading people. Where has Obama or Biden actually done any leading of people.

  14. #914
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:05 am, sandyb said:

    BTW, how are Doprah’s ratings faring lately?

  15. #915
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:08 am, NC BLUE said:

    RetFireman—the truth shall set you free. The Dems trashed Hillary, Geraldine Ferraro and others and their supporters aren’t going to forget it. They are pouring gasoline on an open fire. They scream about negative ads, but what you posted is who they really are. Makes you want to take a shower. God bless Governor Palin and her family, all of who will be trashed by the left.

  16. #916
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:14 am, freemind25 said:

    NCBLUE…hmmmm…so its ok to trash a man (Obama) but a women cannot be. That is the definition of sexism. Shouldn’t she be held to the same standards as any other candidate??? Republicans trashed Obama as unfit to lead, an America hating, arugala eating, snob. That was perfectly fine. Switch the gender and all of a sudden that is out of bounds?

  17. #917
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:16 am, rambler said:

    Thanks RetFireman,
    I love seeing these dems exposed for what they truely are.
    Obama’s parting of the Red Sea turned out to be only low tide.
    So much for BO’s non negative campaign.

  18. #918
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:19 am, PercyJ said:

    freemind25 said:

    Republicans trashed Obama as unfit to lead, an America hating, arugala eating, snob

    Telling the Truth is not trashing someone.

  19. #919
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:20 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    freemind25 said:

    LOL the more I see a lack of a cognitive argument for Palin on any issue other than social issues and energy the more confident I am this election will be a landslide.

    Wow, you’re one of those intellectually superior guys aren’t you? How the hell do you figure the more Ayers and Wright are brought up the more people will vote for Obama? As for foreign policy experience Obama is relying on Biden for that; a guy who suffered from a brain aneurysm. You really going to present an argument that centers around McCain dies 3 weeks into office? The ‘what if’ premise of your argument is weak dude. Show me a smoking gun.

  20. #920
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:20 am, RetFireman said:

    When asked about Iraq a few months ago she said she doesn’t have time to think about it too much, she is too focused on her state. She just destroyed Mccain’s argument that Obama is not ready to lead. Also, he destroyed his argument he puts country first. He put party and getting elected first.

    Are you serious? of course you must be, seeing as how you are voting for a Socialist who is so knowledgable about world events and Foreign Affairs that he has pledged to gut the military, end R&D for weapons and pull out all our missiles whether Russia does the same or not.

    But let’s just look at what this little quote of yours says:

    When asked about Iraq a few months ago she said she doesn’t have time to think about it too much, she is too focused on her state. She just destroyed Mccain’s argument that Obama is not ready to lead. Also, he destroyed his argument he puts country first. He put party and getting elected first.

    Why how DARE she put the workings of the State she is Governor of over those of the Nation when she has nothing to do with how the country is run. Sounds to me like a responsible Governor, instead of what the Dem governors were attempting to do…which actually was against the Constitution. However, she also has a son who enlisted in the Army and is about to be deployed to Iraq in a few days. Do you REALLY think that she is not knowledgable about what is going on in Iraq? Then again, you are being either completely dishonest, or you are just quoting off your Lib sites which have NOT shown the entire quote she made concerning that statement. In that statement she also stated she was looking for dates of withdrawl etc. You kow…the same thing Dems are asking for. So actually, she is more in line with them on the subject than the Republicans. Why don’t you do yourself a favor and get the info yourself instead of relying on proven frauds and liars like the DU and Kos and HuffPo.

    How does making her his VP candidate put party and self first? how does it not put country first? She is an educated, well rounded, smart woman who has nothing but what is best for her local area, state and country in mind. Please provide the proof that demonstrates she is only thinking of herself and not her constituents in anything she has done in her political life. If she cares that much about the constituents of the town she was mayor of, (regardless of population, still more than either Dem candidate had done…even Hill-Dawg) and then cares that much for the citizens of the state she governs, one that borders two foreign countries, one of which is attemptong to begin a new Cold War and is making movements such as could lead to a Nuclear Showdown and potential third world war, and again, something more than what the Dem Candidates, and even Hill-Dawg cannot lay claim to doing, how can you possibly make the statement or come to the conclusion that she will not put her entire effort into becoming a strong, knowledgable, efficient and even popular Vice President who would put her country first.

    Even the sexist claims you Lefties are making concerning how she should be “home raising her children and taking care of her family” eludes to the fact that she is putting her country first.

    You and all the rest of the Dems have made some of the weakest, mist biased and feckless arguments against her as the VP nominee that I think has ever been made. Even her speech yesterday was intelligent, well spoken and completely devoid of “Umm’s” and “Ahh’s” that are so prevalent in both The Golden Calf’s and Biden’s speeches.

    If the things you guys are listing as reasons not to have her as Vice President are the best you can come up with, then you most certainly should NOT be voting for “Big Ears/Big Mouth `08″, because each and every one of them could be said for your guys…only more so.

  21. #921
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:20 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    With the announcement of Sarah Palin, there is much weeping and gnashing of teeth in the world of Demoncrats.

    Thank God that John McCain chose to listen to the growing roar from conservatives.

    Patriotic Americans who happen to be Republicans, Independents, or Democrats (but not Demoncratic Socialist Communists) will come out in large numbers to vote joyfully for the ticket with Sarah Palin on it.

    To quote the third Indiana Jones movie (the last crusade), John McCain has “chosen wisely”.

  22. #922
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:28 am, rambler said:

    “THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PITBULL AND A HOCKY MOM IS THE LIPSTICK”
    I want THAT on a bumper sticker.

  23. #923
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:31 am, RetFireman said:

    freemind25 said:
    As for executive experience, I guess Palin is more experienced than Mccain than, as he has 0 executive experience. Although I guess you could say running a campaign is executive experience. How has Obama fared with that?

    McCain was an officer in the Navy, as well as a fighter pilot. If you really do not know how that equates into experience in leadership, I would like you to do some research into what it means to be an officer in any branch of the military, much less a fighter pilot.

    What, exactly, constitutes leadership experience for either Obama or Biden? Anything? Bueller? being a Senator is hardly leadership, and being a Senator for less than one term is even less. And do not even start thrashing McCain about his leadership in the military, because that is the ONLY thing kerry ran his campaign on four years ago that all you Lefties were doing flips and twists about. McCain actually finished his service and didn’t whine about getting let out after 3 months for a splinter, nor did he chase down and shoot an unarmed teen-ager in the back.

    As for her executive experience, again even mayor of a small town is better than anything with Dem has done. Add to that running an HONEST campaign for Governor of a state that is heavily populated with men, outnumbering women 20-1, shows that she is trusted and can get things done. She is a widely popular governor as well, with upwards of 80% approval ratings. Hell, she does all that and still has time to be with her family…something that Obama admittedly does NOT do, with his own children stating on record that they go upwards of ten weeks at a time without seeing their father. She also sees her children as a “Blessing” and not the “Punishment” MichelleO would not wish on her own children. If that is MichelleO’s view of a potential grandchild, how does she feel about her own children?

  24. #924
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:40 am, RetFireman said:

    I might add that even after his capture by those poor, put-upon, fellow Socialists and Communists known as the Viet-Cong, McCain even took a leadership role there instead of rolling over and giving up.

    And I challenge you to find “questionable’ friendships in palin’s background. It is not as if she will be found to have Socialists, race-baiting preachers, admitted terrorist bombers and cop killers and other associated honor students in her address book under ‘Friends, Mentors and People I Admire”.

    If you can’t choose your friends well and your perception of character is as good as Obama’s, I really doubt you can be trusted with Foreign Affairs decisions and diplomacy.

    Could someone remind the Peanut Gallery of The Golden Calf’s statements on Ahmadinijad and Iran? I think those alone can show that his ability to gauge people and their characteristics have not improved any, let alone his ability to understand the dangers we face and who this country can trust.

    I just don’t see Sarah sitting down for a friendly, non-judgemental chat over coffee with an Islamic Dictator who has stated it is his destiny to bring about the next Caliphate.

    And if you do not know what needs to happen in order to bring that about, you have no business questioning wither McCain OR Palin’s qualifications in Foreign affairs.

  25. #925
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:41 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Obama on children: “Punishment”

    Palin on her child with Down’s Syndrome: “A blessing from God”

    And freemind will not engage my arguments especially about the significance of the “woman vote.” So I’m calling this one a paper tiger.

  26. #926
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am, TXRose said:

    Well, here we go. Now we will see just how completely and utterly ignorant the
    left truly can be. Someone needs to tell them to go bone up on their basic biology.
    Apparently the baby with Down Syndrome is supposed to belong to her teenaged
    daughter and not to Sarah Palin? It is my understanding that it is far more usual
    for an “older” Mother to give birth to a Down Syndrome baby than a teenager.
    Besides…that old ploy of the Mother taking credit for her daughter’s out of wedlock (how’s that for an old term?) baby went away in what? the 1970s at the
    latest. There are A LOT of teenage Mothers nowadays and I don’t see some
    elaborate cover up here.
    I do think we are going to see the Lefts true colors displayed for everyone who will see to see in these next two months.

  27. #927
    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:59 am, radio relay said:

    I just don’t see Sarah sitting down for a friendly, non-judgemental chat over coffee with an Islamic Dictator who has stated it is his destiny to bring about the next Caliphate.

    I don’t see her sitting down for a “friendly” chat with Joe Biden, either. Can’t wait for the debate!

    BTW John McCain was captured by the North Vietnamese, not the Viet Cong.

  28. #928
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, Trollman said:

    freemind25, please show me a Palin quote that is anywhere near as stupid as Obama’s [first] take on Iran being a tiny country and no real threat?

    You know, cuz a tiny country, even if it did develop nukes, is still a tiny country and therefore no threat to us. If a tiny country is no threat to us, then how can Obama claim that Osama is a threat to us that needs to be taken out? He isn’t even a tiny country!

    Uhh… ummm… uh…

  29. #929
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, farmgal said:

    I’m actually excited to pull the lever for McCain/Palin,even though in lib Wa state my vote doesn’t count much.What a refreshing change to have a normal person running and not another elitist snob from Harvard.Someone who does know the working class people and the fact her son is in the military as mine is also she will serve our armed forces well,and is proud of her country,unlike Barry and Michelle.I tell you I’m so sick of their trashing our country I hope he’s thrown out on his ear.

  30. #930
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, TXRose said:

    Have talked to several friends this morning who swear that BHO is trying to figure
    out how to dump JB for HRC. They haven’t said this is a joke, but probably is.
    However, as I said on another thread, I would be that this conversation has taken
    place in the last 24 hours.
    Where’s that Obama post convention bounce now?

  31. #931
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, navywife91 said:

    Retfireman

    I’d like to second your responses to that “guy” (not feeding troll). We are truly fortunate to have educated, not strictly emotional, people on this blog. The posts you pasted here are disgusting and I wouldn’t want to read the ones you can’t post. Losers.

  32. #932
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, RetFireman said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am, TXRose said:

    the conspiracy theory that they are coming up with on this issue is far more convoluted than this. They are basing this theory on a picture someone posted, claiming it was of their family a few months before the birth, showing the eldest daughter in a tight shirt and she has a bit of “baby-fat” around her middle, and that Sarah “never looked pregnant” and how they kept the pregnancy quiet until just before the birth.

    The picture is more likely from 2006, based on the ages of the children in the picture. They are also claiming that she is faking the fact that her child has DS and is using it as a ploy to get elected, claiming the child looks more “eskimo” than he does DS so obviously that is the truth.

    They are claiming that the doctor was unethical and should be brought up on charges for even suggesting that the amniotic test be given, and she is a horrible person for placing her unborn child at risk for having the test.

    As for the teen-age daughter, they claim she was not in school “due to mono” just before the birth so obviously it was the reason she was not seen…she was very pregnant and having the child.

    They are calling for medical records, insurance records and anything else to prove the child is not Sarah’s, but indeed her grandshild.

    When anyone brings up just how wrong such a conspiracy theory is, they are basically shouted down, told that “anything is on the table”, that she is a Republican and obviously is not beyond the pale for doing something like this, etc.

    I am telling you, disgusting does not go far enough in describing what they are saying.

    How scared and desperate are they to come up with something like this?

    Someone also posted a really, really bad photoshop picture of the cover of Vogue magazine where someone had placed her face on the body of a really skinny model and claimed it was Sarah at 7 months pregnant, thus obviously he is her daughter’s child. They are just that sick.

    Like I said, I can’t recommend people following over there to read for yourself, but were you to do so, I can guarantee you will never look at another Liberal or Democrat the same way again, even if they are members of your own family.

    BTW John McCain was captured by the North Vietnamese, not the Viet Cong.

  33. #933
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Wow, finally something you Malkinites and us Obama supporters can agree with. We are both happy with Palin as the VP pick. Watch the polls in the next month…you will find that this was an incredibly poor choice.

  34. #934
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, RetFireman said:

    ooops…Didn’t finish my thought:

    BTW John McCain was captured by the North Vietnamese, not the Viet Cong.

    My mistake. I apologize for the mis-naming of the bastards (read admirers of John Kerry who loved what he stood for so much they placed his picture in a museum thanking him for what he did for their ’cause’) that captured him

  35. #935
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, RetFireman said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Wow, finally something you Malkinites and us Obama supporters can agree with. We are both happy with Palin as the VP pick. Watch the polls in the next month…you will find that this was an incredibly poor choice.

    Oh, we will be watching…and laughing. not sure if you have been paying attention the last 24 hours and have noticed just how fired up his pick made us, and how enthusiastic people have become about voting for McCain/Palin.

    Then again, you should remember that denial is not just a river in Egypt. You seem to be steeped in it, and your comment shows your fear.

  36. #936
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, sandyb said:

    Might I remind all those who are rooting for McCain’s survival or demise regarding his age that his mother is still alive and coherent. Didn’t she say she’d vote for him but hold her nose? Hope Sarah changes her attitude.

  37. #937
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, PercyJ said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    We are both happy with Palin Obama as the VP Democrat pick. Watch the polls in the next month…you will find that this was an incredibly poor choice.

    Fixed it for ya

  38. #938
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, Trollman said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    Watch the polls in the next month…you will find that this was an incredibly poor choice.

    Yeah, uh-huh. Michelle Malkin & the rest of us were all going to vote for McCain, but now that he picked Palin as his running mate, we are all demoralized.

  39. #939
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    Wow, finally something you Malkinites and us Obama supporters can agree with. We are both happy with Palin as the VP pick. Watch the polls in the next month…you will find that this was an incredibly poor choice.

    Wow where can I get your magic 8 ball dude? Lol.

  40. #940
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, PatriotRider said:

    Thankfully, TOS doesn’t get to tell us how we should feel. Thankfully the DimocRats don’t get to tell us who has or has not enough experience to do the job. Thankfully the polls are usually wrong. Thank God we live in the United States of America where the PEOPLE still choose who we want to lead us. And I don’t think we are ready for a Socialist as a president but we are ready to elect a ticket with a woman as VP. Personally I’d prefer to flip the ticket but this is a start.

  41. #941
    On August 30th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    Wow, finally something you Malkinites and us Obama supporters can agree with. We are both happy with Palin as the VP pick. Watch the polls in the next month…you will find that this was an incredibly poor choice.

    Obama currently leads by thirteen points among women while McCain leads by six among men. Among white women, the candidates are essentially even while McCain holds a substantial lead among white men

    McCain 3% to 4% of women voters to come over to his side to win. Now, Otherside, make the case that McCain can’t get 3% to 4% of those votes with Palin on the ticket. Go Ahead, I really want to hear your analysis as to why you just won the election.

  42. #942
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, freemind25 said:

    You know, cuz a tiny country, even if it did develop nukes, is still a tiny country and therefore no threat to us. If a tiny country is no threat to us, then how can Obama claim that Osama is a threat to us that needs to be taken out? He isn’t even a tiny country!

    Do you pride your self on being ignorant or are you simply misinformed. What Obama REALLY said was Iran was a tiny country compared to the Soviet Union. He said the Soviet Union was an existential threat to the US, what with an arsenal of thousands of Nuclear weapons and an army to rival the US. Iran is a country without a single nuclear weapon and an army a tiny fraction of the size of the US. If the US were to fight Iran we would destroy them in about the same time it took to take over Iraq, maybe a couple more days. We talked to the Soviet Union, so why can’t we talk to Iran? We have power over them. Iran is like the little kid in class who talks tough but the second you confront them they wimper away in fear. What the Repubs are doing is pumping them up to be a big bad threat to us. If we wanted we could wipe away any nuclear reactors they have in one fell swoop.

  43. #943
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, RetFireman said:

    I particularly like the way the Dems are quoting the latest poll as if it accurately reflects what happened yesterday.

    All the latest polls cover is up to Wednesday, before Odumbo spoke and most certainly before Sarah was picked.

    I am waiting until next week’s polls. The Golden Calf got the usual bump…nothing extravagant mind you…just about where it always is after the convention, and that’s all. Remember, following his pick of Biden, he actually LOST points and put McCain in the lead.

    Now we are going to be going into the RNC, we have Palin as the pick for Rep. VP whish has arguably been greeted with enthusiasm from Republicans as well as disenfranchised Hill-Dawg supporters PLUS it completely obliterated The Golden Calf from the news the day after his speech going into the weekend prior to the RNC.

    If the Left wants to believe that Obama/Biden will still be in the lead come this time next week, then I think they need to get a new supplier.

  44. #944
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Chirp, chirp, cricket, chirp…

  45. #945
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, RetFireman said:

    Actually, let me put it this way:

    The Dems and Liberals are saying McCain screwed up and Sarah Palin is a mistake. What should that be telling everyone?

  46. #946
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, RetFireman said:

    You really do not understand the Political, Ideological and Theological differences between dealing with Iran and dealing with The Soviets? Really???

  47. #947
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, rooster said:

    Change, change….yes we can, change, change…hows that for change in Washington all you Barry Odumbo Hussein supporters.
    I do believe this is exactly what most Americans want, real change. Not Odumbos….just words…..speeches, US of KKKA, God Bless America, no, no, no God _amn America. Can’t wait for Jeremiahs book tour in October to remind us of Odumbos mentor of 20 years.
    I was one of McCain’s maverick voters, he changed that with this awesome pick of Palin.
    YEEEEEHAWWWWWW!
    Change, yes we did!!!

  48. #948
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm, freemind25 said:

    You really do not understand the Political, Ideological and Theological differences between dealing with Iran and dealing with The Soviets? Really???

    Yes, there are huge differences between the two countries. The Soviet Union was intent on spreading its communist ideology across the globe. Iran has no such ambitions. It just wants the world to recognize it as a world power. Now please answer this question. In comparison to the threat we faced with the Soviet Union, is the Iran an equal foe?

  49. #949
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, Biker_George said:

    Iran has no such ambitions. It just wants the world to recognize it as a world power
    Freemind25 you forgot the part where Iran wants to nuke Israel. But in your mind that is ok cause there just a free loving counrty that just wants a little love and understanding

  50. #950
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, rambler said:

    The only thing a Obama/Biden ticket has to say is that they are not BUSH. So what! The rest is simply a snow-job. The dems don’t believe that the general public is smart enough to see through to the truth. Palin doesn’t come across as a phony. Knowing when life begins is not above her pay grade.
    Obama was so involved in putting himself first that he failed to notice what the country needed. The dems will continue to show how petty they are with these attacks on Palin’s family. I don’t see Palin whinning about the attacks like Obama. She will stand up as the strong woman she is. She won’t be hiding behind McCain or her husband. MO needed to take responsibility for her comments, instead she slithered back to hubby and complained about how mean everyone was being.
    I’m looking forward to not having lawyers in the White House!

  51. #951
    On August 30th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, farmgal said:

    #824 I used to listen to Michael Savage,but in recent days he has lost it.First he said the whole Russia thing is Georgia’s fault and now this.I personally think it’s refreshing that she is an outsider.I also think he is a bit too egocentrical and don’t like the way he treats his guests.He’s so rude to even his own people that call him up I just couldn’t take it anymore.

  52. #952
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, RetFireman said:

    The Soviets, for all their faults, had a major difference over Iran and it’s “leaders”. That major difference is that they FEARED DEATH! they were actually concerned with what would happen to them were we to actually commit to a Nuclear War. They cared about their citizenry and cared about breathing, what the results would be to the land they lived on and farmed, etc.

    Contrast that with the fundamental beliefs of the Islamists who are in charge of Iran; from the Ayatollahs right on down to the evil midget (no offense to Little People meant) Ahmadinejad who not only do not fear death, but if they were to die for the cause of their moon god, that would be the greatest thing possible, guaranteeing them all sorts of fabulous prizes once the get sent on to meet him.

    This is what makes dealing with that “small little country” INCREDIBLY dangerous.

    Add to that the very statements of Ahmadiniblahblahblah such as:

    “As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map…”

    “Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm.”

    He and his cabinet have also pledged themselves to working towards bringing about the return of the Mahdi, who will come “At the End Of Days, as well as establishing the New Caliphate in Washington D.C.

    This is a far more dangerous and real threat than the Soviet union ever was. there were no “Eternal Sexit Rewards” to be handed out to the Politburo following a nuclear war with the U.S. and subsequent annihilation of Russia. Ahmadenijad, however, believes fully that he will be rewarded eternally by his moon god for bringing about the “End of Days”, destroying Israel in a “Ball of Fire”, and has absolutely no fear of his or anyone else’s death.

    What reasoning can be done with anyone who has no fear of reprisals or even death?

    If this is a concept that is just too difficult for you do understand, than it would be best that you just not comment on it, for every time you do so, you only expose your ignorance and more to all readers.

  53. #953
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, RetFireman said:

    By the way…here is a list of all the fun and games those “Tolerant and Peace Loving Liberals” have planned for next week.

    Brilliant masterminds I tells ya!

    http://protestrnc2008.org/event/2008/08/14/list/all/all

  54. #954
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, Paul-Cincy said:

    I admire Palin. I respect her, I trust her. Some say that’s not important, as long as certain policies are put in place. No, I want someone I can look to, as a person, not just a policy maker.

    Some say, Clinton’s policies were good, I don’t care who he had sex with. Being serviced by an intern, what greater breach of trust is there. Yes there was perjury too.

    I don’t admire Obama. I admire Palin. So far she’s a plus for me.

  55. #955
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, Snowfire said:

    I’m 60 years old. In my entire life I’ve never made a political contribution, had a bumper sticker on my car, or a political sign in my yard. Now, I have made a contribution to the McCain/Palin campaign and my bumper sticker and yard sign should arrive in a week or so. I’m delighted with Palin and with McCain more than previously.

    My husband just read on another blog, “So she’s a hunter, huh? Now, we know who is going to find bin Ladin.”

  56. #956
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, Sidana said:

    Yes, there are huge differences between the two countries. The Soviet Union was intent on spreading its communist ideology across the globe. Iran has no such ambitions. It just wants the world to recognize it as a world power. Now please answer this question. In comparison to the threat we faced with the Soviet Union, is the Iran an equal foe?

    LOLOLOLOLOL Honey. . they want YOUR conversion or DEATH.

    “just want to be recognized as a world power”…and the death and destruction of every Jew on the planet, as well as YOUR conversion or Death.

    They SAY THIS. why can’t you listen? I don’t know why I ask. You folks never got it during the Soviet Regime either.

  57. #957
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, Soliel said:

    Pallin is a big supporter of the aerial wolf hunt in Alaska. This wolf hunt has been voted down THREE times by Alaskans but Pallin, ignoring the wishes of her own people, has not respected their wishes. I guess there is just too much big game money.

    She will probably do the same thing to anything we vote for…simply ignore it for her own personal wishes/gain. I am guessing they will ingore our wishes regarding immigration…both of them have already done so, ignored the wishes of their own consituents.

    Look, I am no Obama fan at all…but I am not the only conservative who does not care for politicians who a)ignore the will of the people and b) like to kill for fun. It’s not noble at all and to me, it shows a deep character flaw.

    Why do conservatives consistently make themselves out to be callous and cruel? Leftists are wrong on many issues…but conservatives could use a little changing, too. Hunting is cruel and selfish…I will not vote for anyone who partakes of this.

  58. #958
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, PercyJ said:

    Soliel said:

    She will probably do the same thing to anything we vote for…simply ignore it for her own personal wishes/gain. I am guessing they will ingore our wishes regarding immigration…both of them have already done so, ignored the wishes of their own consituents.

    Yet she has a 80% approval rating from her constituents. You are grasping at straws.

  59. #959
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, PercyJ said:

    Soliel said:

    Why do conservatives consistently make themselves out to be callous and cruel? Leftists are wrong on many issues…but conservatives could use a little changing, too. Hunting is cruel and selfish…I will not vote for anyone who partakes of this.

    I also hope you are a vegetarian if you are going to spout off on this issue. Because it is awfully hypocritical of you if you buy meat in the grocery store and not condone someone else hunting for theirs.

  60. #960
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, rooster said:

    Thank you for the great veep pick McPain, now can we talk about our borders and this invasion taking place in our country?

  61. #961
    On August 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pm, Biker_George said:

    Dose any one know the have the link to PUMA? Most of the talking heads say that the HRC voters will not back McCain/Paliun. Just want to take a look into there blog!

  62. #962
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, Rob said:
    Hunting is cruel and selfish…I will not vote for anyone who partakes of this.</blockquote>

    I sure would like to try some of that moose stew now. I will bet that is some GOOD eating!

  63. #963
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, Send_Me said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 6:20 am, dhalls said:
    Say after me everyone…”Conservatives united can never be defeated!”

    Keep telling yourself that, especially during either McCain or Obama’s inauguration. Why have so many forgotten all of McCain’s ills now that he’s chosen a conservative woman to be his “backup quarterback?”

  64. #964
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, Rob said:

    Pallin is a big supporter of the aerial wolf hunt in Alaska

    I would also like to try some wolf stew!

    MEAT…. mmmmmmmmm

  65. #965
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm, RetFireman said:

    I don’t know…I really like these pictures.

  66. #966
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:16 pm, Trollman said:

    freemind25 said:

    He said the Soviet Union was an existential threat to the US, what with an arsenal of thousands of Nuclear weapons and an army to rival the US. Iran is a country without a single nuclear weapon and an army a tiny fraction of the size of the US. If the US were to fight Iran we would destroy them in about the same time it took to take over Iraq, maybe a couple more days. We talked to the Soviet Union, so why can’t we talk to Iran? We have power over them. Iran is like the little kid in class who talks tough but the second you confront them they wimper away in fear. What the Repubs are doing is pumping them up to be a big bad threat to us. If we wanted we could wipe away any nuclear reactors they have in one fell swoop.

    Perhaps you (and Obama) are unaware that Iran sits atop a narrow piece of water called the Strait of Hormuz?

    You know, this small area where much of the oil that is used by the world (including America) comes through? Oil from places like Saudi Arabia…

    Even though Iran is tiny, they could easily shut that down, cutting off the world’s oil supply.

    No oil = no economy

    And if taking on a country is no problem, why are we still fighting in Iraq & Afghanistan years later? There is a lot more to war than “We big, we win”.

    Furthermore, they want the power to dominate all of the other Middle Eastern countries, taking control of the world’s oil. Which is why, if we had followed Obama’s advice and retreated from Iraq before stabilizing it, Iran would take over and hold even more control over the world’s oil supply.

    And yes, they are determined to get their hands on a nuke. Unlike the Soviet Union, who we could deter through reason & force, these people are religious fanatics who do not care about death – which is why they fightt with suicide bombers.

  67. #967
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:34 pm, TXRose said:

    Biker_George, I don’t know the Puma site but I was on another site of women for
    Hillary and all they could talk about was having Sarah’s back so she didn’t get treated
    like they perceived Hillary being treated. They also talked about voting for the ticket
    because they certainly weren’t going to vote for BO/JB.
    Soleil……I don’t condone putting wolves back when there is a good reason for them
    to be gone from the area. I also don’t condone overpopulation by a species because
    some lefty thinks hunting is cruel…so is starvation of that species or cannibalism by
    that species because there isn’t enough food. Also, there is nothing wrong with
    hunting when you are going to eat your kill. One of my brothers in law is an hunter
    and they do consume what he kills and also donate a large part to the church pantry for people in need.
    To not thin out wild animals for a more quality life for them is ignorance. To not
    thin our forests is ignorance and we are paying for that ignorance with soooo much monies spent on forest fires when it could go to feed the hungry.
    rant/off

  68. #968
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, RetFireman said:

    Well…it appears freemind25 was dazzled with facts and has no more ridiculous liberal lies and half-truths fueled by emotions to respond with. Shocker

  69. #969
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm, atheling said:

    Biker George:

    Here’s one.

  70. #970
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, RetFireman said:

    P.U.M.A site just for you. Man…hell really does hath no fury.

  71. #971
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:47 pm, GrayLoess said:

    Leftists are wrong on many issues…but conservatives could use a little changing, too. Hunting is cruel and selfish…I will not vote for anyone who partakes of this.

    Controlling game animal populations through hunting is an important part of responsible wildlife management.

    Allowing wildlife to slowly die from starvation because of unchecked reproduction is what would really be cruel and selfish.

    Idiot.

  72. #972
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:49 pm, TXRose said:
  73. #973
    On August 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm, TXRose said:

    I once worked with a dem who wouldn’t attend the Fort Worth Fat Stock Show
    and Rodeo because it was “cruel to animals.” Yet she would not spay or neuter
    her pets and contributed to so many unwanted animals that an entire litter of
    kittens from her cat had to be put to sleep and she became incensed when a
    woman at the humane society told her this wasn’t her personal dumping ground
    for her unwanted animals. Sounded kind of like what abortion clinics are for
    clueless and terribly cruel leftist women. Abortion clinics where you can get
    unwanted babies “put down” just like your extra dogs and cats!!!

  74. #974
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, TXRose said:

    Just saw on Moderate Voice that there is an anti Palin site about gay rights that
    tries to portray itself as a conservative site. When they followed the thing all the
    way back…..obamadefense.com.
    And so it begins. Why can’t they crawl out of the woodwork and stand up and fight
    like men (and women)?

  75. #975
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, RetFireman said:
  76. #976
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:03 pm, RetFireman said:

    That site was mentioned on another thread. They actually have upwards of five different smear sites they have come out with.

    Just another prime example of hypocrisy from the Liberals. ‘Do as we dictate, not as we do”.

    If it comes from a Liberal in any way, shape, or form, you can rest assured there is not an ounce of honesty anywhere to be found with it.

  77. #977
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, RetFireman said:

    I say we take this thread all the way to 1K

  78. #978
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:09 pm, TXRose said:

    I’m with you RetFireman…will that be one for the records and get our Michelle
    kudos?
    On that last site you posted there is a link to one called the real Obama. Ran it off
    for an undecided friend of mine. I love her but she really is wishy washy. She knows that I think that about her.

  79. #979
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:16 pm, RetFireman said:

    I just read a comment from some hysterical “woman” complaining that she is terrified about what would happen if she became pregnant again and was “forced” to keep a baby she didn’t want and could not afford.

    Is it really so difficult to understand the concept that if you cannot afford the consequences of an action, then you should take ANY and all precautions to guarantee that said consequence does not happen.

    In this day and age, there are a myriad of forms of birth control available. Is there really a reason for any unwanted pregnancies other than just pure laziness?

    Was abortion really supposed to be used as yet another form of birth control for those too lazy to take proper precautions?

    I really would hate to think it was, and personally feel that anyone who actually considers abortion to be just that has serious mental issues. I know women who have had abortions, for varied reasons, and not a single one of them are comfortable with what happened, they all were traumatized emotionally by it and would never go through them again.

    As a male, i honestly don’t feel I have much of a say in the matter, because let’s face it…a woman is the one who has to live with whatever decision she makes for the rest of her llife…guys can actually never even know about it…although I do have my opinion. Also, having three daughters, i hipe to God i am never forced to come face to face with my convictions, not for me, but because it would mean one of them were to be having a child way too early.

    This, however, has been a big issue in every elections, and should people actually come to the point where they refuse to vote for an incredibly qualified candidate simply on this one issue does a great injustice to all the other issues that the person can do some really good with.

    I just want to know one thing from the pro-deathers:

    At what point do they think that a soul enters the body?

    If, in fact, they even believe in a soul.

    Me? I cannot imagine a body that does not have a soul at any point until they draw their final breath. I seriously just can’t picture one leaping in at the last minute before birth.

    Also, if a murderer can be charged with double homicide for killing a woman who is pregnant, then how can that same pregnancy be considered “Just Tissue” if there was an abortion involved instead?

    I know, WAAAAAY OT, but I got on a rant.

  80. #980
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, rambler said:

    Liberals cherry pick through all kinds of issues making their arguments weak and resorting to slurs and name calling to win. Their Denver convention was a total show of just how important they feel global warming is; while they wasted electricity, kept their SUVs running and to private planes home. They have been too stupid to even recognize their own hypocrisy. Any mudslinging at Palin will say more about their despiration than it will say about her. I’m sure she’ll handle it with grace and strength.

  81. #981
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, edelweiss said:

    Why McCain should never become President:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26426721/

    Why Palin should not become VP at this time:
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/13001.html

    Palin has NO international experience. I bet she can’t even find Pristina (Kosova) on a map.

    I (F, 24) defintely know much more about world affairs than Palin. Also she is a creationist….berrrk!!!

  82. #982
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, rfjjulie said:

    As the left continually spews hate they will only prove their playground tacticts the rest of left in grade school. I have faith in the American people to do the right thing for our Country. Me thinks they (the left) doth protest too much! I am so glad we actually have a choice with VP Palin.

  83. #983
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, greenLibertarian said:

    I only wish it were Palin/McCain, or Palin/Malkin :)

    Some ‘experienced’ presidents, including JC and GWB, are among the worst, so I think we shouldn’t disparage Ms. Palin’s lack of some types of experience – she’s got the right stuff.

  84. #984
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, RetFireman said:

    Hunting is cruel and selfish…I will not vote for anyone who partakes of this.

    Then I take it that it has been a very long time since you have voted in a Presidential election.

  85. #985
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, RetFireman said:

    Palin has NO international experience. I bet she can’t even find Pristina (Kosova) on a map.

    I (F, 24) defintely know much more about world affairs than Palin. Also she is a creationist….berrrk!!!

    And you base this on what? your opinion? Your “gut feeling” Tell us, oh wise and learned 24 yo female…just what have you done and accomplished in your many years that makes you moore qualified and far superior in knowledge than a woman who has been mayor as well as Governor of the largest state in the Nation that just happens to border two foreign countries, one of which we were in a Cold War with for over 50 years?

    It is pompous, egotistical, self-righteous little poo-butts like yourself that give the rest of us laughs for weeks on end.

    Now, get off your mom’s computer and head to work. Those fries aren’t going to cook themselves.

  86. #986
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, RetFireman said:

    And please, one more thiing…tell us what International experience Obama, who is running for President, not Vice President, has? Any? No? Didn’t think so.

  87. #987
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, rfjjulie said:

    To edelweiss, you link to politico “I think she is the most inexperienced person on a major party ticket in modern history,” said presidential historian Matthew Dallek.” as a reason Palin is unexperienced? You have got to be kidding. The Messiah has even less. Are you sure you are qualified to vote if all your information comes from politico and pmsnbc? Detox from the koolaid.

  88. #988
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    The amazing thing about this is there are two main battle ground states MI and PA. Obama has the lead in both those states due to women votes only. Can anyone guess how that’ll pan out now?

  89. #989
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Retfirman, I am new but love and agree with your posts! Thank you for the sanity.

  90. #990
    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm, atheling said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, edelweiss said:

    Palin has NO international experience. I bet she can’t even find Pristina (Kosova) on a map.

    I (F, 24) defintely know much more about world affairs than Palin. Also she is a creationist….berrrk!!!

    What an arrogant twit you are.

    You can’t even spell correctly and you claim some kind of superiority over someone almost twice your age, and who has executive experience?

    Your “knowledge” about world affairs consists of nothing but libtard newspeak. Your sense of ethics and morals is even worse. At least Gov. Palin is a reformer who is not afraid to confront internal corruption – something that you libtards scrupulously avoid on every level.

    Get fitted for that burkah yet?

  91. #991
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, RetFireman said:
  92. #992
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, mojoe said:

    The thread that would. not. die.

    I’m loving the panic in the voices (and writings) on the left.

    Obama and Biden are soooo Thursday’s news.

  93. #993
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, mojoe said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm,

    edelweiss said:

    Palin has NO international experience. I bet she can’t even find Pristina (Kosova) on a map.

    I (F, 24) defintely know much more about world affairs than Palin. Also she is a creationist….berrrkBirrrkenstocks!!!

    Fixed that for ya.

  94. #994
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, cicerokid said:

    I just read a comment from some hysterical “woman” complaining that she is terrified about what would happen if she became pregnant again and was “forced” to keep a baby she didn’t want and could not afford.

    Is it really so difficult to understand the concept that if you cannot afford the consequences of an action, then you should take ANY and all precautions to guarantee that said consequence does not happen.

    Mexico City just legalized abortion. With the new open border policy…

  95. #995
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pm, Biker_George said:

    Hey Guys
    just left the< PUMA web and let me day one thing never, never, never piss these people off, OMG there going after BO like the witch hunts off old!!!

    Some of them are even throwing money at McCain God you gotta love it!

  96. #996
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pm, navywife91 said:

    I guess there is just too much big game money.

    Big Oil
    Big Tobacco
    Big Game? Now, I’ve heard it all.

  97. #997
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, Biker_George said:

    correction “say one thing”

  98. #998
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, ajmontana said:

    The trolls are stretching,lying, grasping at straws and still crying like babies that we just slam dunked em.
    “No Bump for you!”
    boo hoo hoo…. rofl. :lol:
    aahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahah

  99. #999
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, edelweiss said:

    On August 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm, atheling said:

    What an arrogant twit you are.

    You can’t even spell correctly and you claim some kind of superiority over someone almost twice your age, and who has executive experience?

    Your “knowledge” about world affairs consists of nothing but libtard newspeak. Your sense of ethics and morals is even worse. At least Gov. Palin is a reformer who is not afraid to confront internal corruption – something that you libtards scrupulously avoid on every level.

    Get fitted for that burkah yet?

    atheling: I checked my post. I don’t see any typo. You probably don’t know that the original name of Kosovo in Albanian is Kosova. Obviously you have never been overseas. Well time for you to apply for a passport. I give you the appropriate link: http://travel.state.gov/passport

  100. #1000
    On August 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, navywife91 said:

    Hey Guys
    just left the< PUMA web and let me day one thing never, never, never piss these people off, OMG there going after BO like the witch hunts off old!!!

    Some of them are even throwing money at McCain God you gotta love it!

    BG,
    I just watched an interview on Fox and Ellis Henican (big lib) basically accused Greg Jarret of “lying” about the fact the a Dem female told him that she was voting for McCain because of Palin. Henican said she was the “only woman in America”. They are definitely in denial.

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