Not-lifelong-Republican John Lott addresses Obama’s gun rights record
Obama knows he’s weak on guns. Real weak. He’s setting up a bunch of “lifelong Republicans” and astroturf Zumbos* like the American Hunters’ Arms Are For Hugging to vouch for him, but he’s not fooling anybody who doesn’t want to be fooled.
Least of all a former-liberal scholar named John Lott, who knows quite a bit about the social science of the Second Amendment and zeroes in on the candidate’s evasions:
A candidate questionnaire shows that Mr. Obama supported a ban on handguns in 1996. In 1998, he backed a ban on the sale of all semiautomatic guns (a ban that would encompass the vast majority of guns sold in the U.S.) In 2004, he advocated banning gun sales within five miles of a school or park (essentially a ban on all guns sold in almost all the states). Possibly, even more importantly, he served on the board of the Joyce Foundation, probably the largest private funder of anti-gun and pro-ban groups and research in the country.
The Obama campaign “flatly denied” the 1996 statement supporting a ban on handguns, blaming it instead on a staffer from his state senate race who they said had incorrectly filled out the candidate questionnaire. But the Politico obtained a copy of the statement and found Mr. Obama’s own handwritten notes on it indicating that he had personally checked and corrected answers.
Me, I’m waiting for the inevitable shooting-related Obama photo-op somewhere that will prove he’s really a common, well-grounded fellow who knows his breech from his muzzle. What will it be? Duck hunting? Skeet? Rimfire rifles with the Boy Scouts? Whatever it is, the photoshoppers are gearing up…
And whatever it is, I hope the injuries are minimal.
*haven’t heard the term “Zumbo”? Here you go.
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UPDATE: Commenters are speculating on what that inevitable pro-2nd Amendment photo-op might look like. The See-Dubya graphics department offers this artist’s conception of Obama’s trip to the range, where he’s coached in the shooting sports by “a guy who lives in his neighborhood” named Bill Ayers.
See, you’ve got to dress just right to go shooting with Bill Ayers–and evoke exactly the right radical-chic image:
Artist’s gleeful conception.
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Anyone fooled by obama on this issue needs thier head read.
Myself having a degree in economics, John Lott is one of my favorites.
Oh, I can see it now, Obama photo-op at the range:
“No Barry, it’s the pointy end that goes toward the target. . .no, it won’t fire unless you release the safety. . .now, stop crying, it won’t hurt you and, besides, this will be over in a minute. . .just a couple of pictures. . .stop sniveling. . .Oh for God’s sake ‘Let’s have the stand-in’”.
I’m waiting on “Can I get me a huntin license here?”*
*Words uttered by former Presidential candidate John Kerry, who by the way, served in Vietnam, with Jane Fonda.
Maybe Obama will get a photo-op in a tank and upon exit will express what a good time he had duck hunting.
I bet that Michelle O. can handle an AK…
I just got an image of a 120mm ap round hitting a duck.
I can’t wait for the picture of Obama curiously holding a gun, with his pinky in the upright position, asking someone “which way do you point this”…inevitably ending with him shooting off his toe.
Go Palin!!
see-dubya said:
I bet it would look a lot like that Zarqawi video. You know, where he tries to videotape himself shooting a gun, but can’t figure out how to fire it? Or when he hands it to his buddy, who grabs the hot end and has to drop it.
I can see it now: OBAMA – MAN OF ACTION!
(Shows Obama with ripped up shirt and headband firing a machine gun, kicking in cave doors, looking for Obama, er, I mean Osama, shouting “ENOUGH!”)
Thank you prendad, that was good (o:
http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/
Two of my favorite books by Dr. Lott
More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun-Control Laws
The Bias Against Guns: Why Almost Everything You’ve Heard About Gun Control Is Wrong
I buy them as sets and pass them around to people who may be open to the subject.
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Just another bitter American clinging to my God and guns (gas guzzling, global warming pick-up truck too!)
Geez, you guys are hilarious this morning!
Trollman–
Takbir!
As for the Man of Action pose…he could audition for his STRIKE FORCE.
BTW, I went to the NRA museum gift shop a while ago with Old Shootin’ Buddy, and they weren’t selling Dr. Lott’s book. They said people weren’t buying it fast enough. Darn shame.
Hey see-dub, good to see you again. Keep bringing us good stuff on gun ownership. I sometimes feel it is the only reason liberals have not completely taken over the country.
They gotta fear us gun-clingers. I mean gun-slingers.
Can we have VP candidate and lifelong member of the NRA respond to this silliness…..Me thinks it would be a fine example of her killer instincts.
Can someone let everyone know ahead of time before B. HUSSIEN goes to the range. We need to warn the people so that they can evacuate the area before he starts shooting. LOL
Obama has flat-out lied on his support for gun owners. The thing that stands out most in my mind is support for the DC gun ban until the Supreme Court overturned. He then said that he didn’t support it. Anyone who hasn’t read it, I strong recommend the book More Guns, Less Crime that ArizonaNeanderthal linked to at #10. It was enough for a friend to change his position on gun control. It is filled with facts (you know, those things liberals hate and want to silence) and studies that prove gun control does not work.
Let me get this strait.
Obama wants to restrict US citizens the right to own guns and as commander-in-chief will have under his control the strongest military in the history of the world.
No sarcastic remark needed here. GEEEES!!!
Dubbs, you think Obama firing a gun would look anything like this?
The left’s desire to ban various types of guns infringes upon MY RIGHT TO CHOOSE!!
Thanks Goldwater
Good way to start the day.
see-dubya and a gun thread. My day is complete. Great stuff!
O-brahma (my new pet name as he is full of bull) promised Planned Parenthood he would sign a national bill into law for abortion on demand for any reason. That would circumvent the states rights now wouldn’t it? Here is why this disturbs me. What could he do to the second ammendment? Just a thought.
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Is that how it should read?
I would really fear for anyone around the Obamessiah should he decide to demonstrate his shooting abilities but, then again he does have a unique ability to only shoot himself in the foot lately.
The NRA has had the scoop out on how the Obamessiah has worked tirelessly to take guns out of the hands of law bidding citizens for a while now. Like most Marxist/Communist/Socialist liberals they will only feel safe once the 2nd Amendment is erased and only their personal security details, the Obamessiah’s Civilian National Security Forces and of course the criminals (did I just repeat myself?) will be the only ones with guns.
Nothing in the constitution about choosing madchef
The only footage of Oblahblah shooting will be shooting himself in the foot over his duplicitous actions. He’s a gun-grabber is the purest form of socialist dictator since Stalin.
My twelve year old grandson never did that! His rifle is a 1903 Springfield.
In my experience, the vast majority of anti-gun people I have talked with, have never fired, nor even handled a gun, nor been in the military.
These self-professed “experts” base their arguments entirely on what they have read in newspapers, or been told as “fact” by other anti-second amendment clowns…we all know how objective those sources are, no?.
Google search home invasion statistics of those countries that have banned guns.
GW, ROFL. he wife and I are in tears. THANKS!
GK-
The video of these 90 pound Arabs shooting a Winchester .458 Magnum (an elephant gun for those of you who don’t know) cracks me up!!! Having fired this calibre rifle alot, several things come to mind…headaches, blurred vision, and massive hematomas! Ahh, good times…good times…
Obama mentioned this issue in his acceptance speech. He said, more or less: “We can protect the second amendment and keep AK47s out of the hands of criminals.”
Duck hunting gone bad-aka Oh No, not again!
Obama will loose because he is not conservative.
McCain will win because he finally put a conservative on the ticket!
Obama scared of Guns,
Sarah kills animals with them!!!!!!
Sarah Palin More Like Elizabeth Dole than Hillary Clinton.
BO can go duck hunting with his VP choice Joe Bidet-N. Bidet-N can accidently shoot the god of BO who will miraculously be unharmed, and BO can feed thousands with just a few ducks he shoots.He can then deliver the Sermon of the Wetlands to his followers.
” There is no god but BO.
Destroy your enemy and show no mercy.
Guns are for criminals only – the honest shall live in fear.
Criminals are the true innocents – they only vote for democrats and are therefore redeemed.
Conservatives and thought provoking books shall be cast into the fire.
The white devils owe us Folks reparations – screw the 300,000 white soldiers who died to end slavery and the deaths of 300,000 Confederates as punishment isn’t enough.
Black women abort your babies!
Black youth go to school long enough to learn to hate Amerikkka and that you will always be victims – but do not learn to read, and do not finish school or graduate.
Remember to give credit to Satan – he was the inspiration of my great teacher Saul Alinsky.
And finally, speak not my middle name nor mention my ears on pain of hell fire.”
We only get the grape Kool-aid laced with cyanide if he is elected. That shall be his communion.
Remember, BO STINKS!
see-dubya:
What’s with the disclaimer? Did I miss something? Do you need us to go and beat somebody up for you? (Notice I said “us” not “me”)
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fixed it for you.
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Guns are not a big deal for me, but protecting the right of gun owners to own them is. God loves warriors. Fire at will (figuratively) at Obama and Biden.
After Obama’s bowling fiasco, I wonder what will happen when Obama and Biden arrange for their inevitable hunting photo op. Can you see Obama dressed up like Elmer Fudd?
Exit question: who will accidentally take out whom? Obama may want to be careful that the Dems don’t use it as a way to get Hillary back on the ticket.
AHHHHH…. I do LOVE the smell of gun powder in the morning…
If Obama Hussein is elected, he will do everything he can possibly do to take everyone’s guns away. Keep plenty of ammo in stock and keep paying your N.R.A. dues.
On August 30th, 2008 at 10:15 am, FamilyMan said: #24
“Nothing in the constitution about choosing madchef”
No, but it does say it “shall not be infringed”. Ban various types of firearms is an infringment!
On August 30th, 2008 at 10:09 am, guitarplayer said:
You could have put the period elsewhere in your sentence and said it all.
Obama mentioned this issue in his acceptance speech. He said, more or less: “We can protect the second amendment and keep AK47s out of the hands of criminals.”
Idiot. AK47’s are a Title III weapon and are therefore illegal to possess in most states already. The states that do allow them to be possessed allow that a $200 tax stamp is required, along with a letter from the chief law enforcement officer of your place of residence, a thorough criminal records check, and federal application form to BATFE.
Are you (or Obama) so stupid you think a criminal is going to bother with the laws? That’s why they are CRIMINALS!
But not for long, he’s on record as planning to dismember significant parts of it. How else can he pay for his
civilian surveillance corpsdepartment of peace and kumbayaWatching Goldwaters video it recalled a memory back in my high school years. This story is before warning labels which of course made us all safer./sarc A fifteen year old friend and I were out in the sticks riding an old water pumper dune buggy. He brought his fathers gun with him and had to show off his skills. The trigger was pulled and the recoil pushed him over a 40 foot cliff. The father sued the gun company under some premise. He lost because the defendant proved the father failed to give proper instruction to his son. Once a year I like to remind him of his young stupidity. The sad part of the story is he’s now an anti-gun advocate because of the above incident.
Palin has them scampering in desperation again today. 2 days in a row, with 66 days left!
The video of these 90 pound Arabs shooting a Winchester .458 Magnum (an elephant gun for those of you who don’t know) cracks me up!!! Having fired this calibre rifle alot, several things come to mind…headaches, blurred vision, and massive hematomas! Ahh, good times…good times…
Actually, it was a .577 Nitro, but whose counting:) Funny stuff!
Morning lgm
Yet he come from Chicago which has done neither. They have stripped their citizens of the right to self defense and won’t even try to rein in the gangs. Those AK-47s of which he speaks are semi-automatic rifles and except for looks little different then the millions of hunting rifles and shotguns so many millions of us use. And those rifles and shotguns are what the Beloved calls assault weapons and he wishes to ban.
The Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 as proposed by Splash and Dash Kennedy, and now supported by the Anointed One, would ban all semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, magazines over ten round capacity and almost all hunting bullets.
Despite the lies to the contrary the Kennedy Assault Weapon Ban would ban ‘Cop Killer Bullets” which would have meant almost all center fire rifle rounds. They could not get enough votes to go that far, but Barack Hussein Obama would. The Chosen One, He Who Has Come
His Self also called for a ban on Concealed Carry Laws and almost all hand guns.
“We can protect the Second Amendment” rings hollow.
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Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Should Be A Convenience Store And Not A Federal Agency.
Bitter American here. Back to the burka ladies.
see-dubya, the photoshop is awesome. That is how my mind has always seen Obama. Very good.
Why do I get a vision of:
Duck Season
Rabbit Season
Duck Season
Rabbit Season
Rabbit Season
Duck Season Fire……
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Silly wabbit can’t have my guns. Duck!
If Barack does man up and go hunting this fall, who do you think will win? The Crips or the Bloods?
The NRA has already placed the hypocrisy cross-hairs on Barry’s dubious claims of gun support. In fact, checking Barry’s official campaign Web site, his gun stance is rather weak both in terms of support and in detail.
Once Barry and Biden’s anti-gun (don’t want people to be able to defend themselves) attitudes are widely known, I think their media-assisted status will turn to doo-doo, it’s natural state, very quickly.
I’d love to see that photo-op of BHO… as clueless as most libs are about firearms, I picture Katie, John, and Brian out there ready to catch all the actions as Obama makes his first kill with a .177 rifle while mushroom hunting.
If he shoots anything like he bowls, at least he can’t hurt anyone with a gun like that. I’m sure that’s what one of his handlers will have foreseen— that and the fact that a rifle with any recoil at all would send his skinny little behind flying.
“Obama” definition:
Criminal = Lawful gun owner.
lgm is a sociopathic panderer of misinformation. Obama is as anti-gun as they come, and a true disgrace to anyone attempting to call themselves a Constitutional lawyer.
When I see Obama championing the cause of fighting against the illegal tyranny being imposed in Chicago, D.C., NYC, and San Fran and allowing the citizens there to use their second amendment right to own and bear arms for their own defense then I will retract my statement about Obama. Because he will never take my guns except from my cold dead hands.
I found the video of him practicing. Warning-DNC trying to keep this covered up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_jnERTCWPE
Bad Ron, bad boy/semi-sarc.
His handlers have already prepared a statement for him so he can pre-empt the bad press this fall. He will be saying: “contrary to popular belief, I can hit the broad side of a barn!”
Sorry GK…I posted before seeing yours.
Dang…and I thought I got the scoop.
Only some of the choen few will be allowed weapons. Just ask Rosie “O”
Obama was recently invited to go on a hunting trip. Fortunately, the camera crews followed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5AUk8bvzPo&feature=related
#57
Ron, if that was a direct quote from Obama, you left out a few dozen “uh’s.”
Be a cold day in hell before I relinquish my Mossburg 20 gauge or my Ruger 9mm, or any of the others that are on the “wish list”.
Took my step-son out shooting with turkey loads one afternoon. He had the bruises on his shoulder for a week, and a smile that lasted longer than that.
I think Obama will use the term “living constitution”, which to me is saying no constitution at all. The law of the land is there to protect us from the abusive nature of government and was designed to be difficult to change. To hell with activist jurist. Good reason to vote for McCain.
Or even the Gun Grabbing Senator Dianne Feinstein, CCW permit holder as a Special Person.
Poll: How many here have a gun permit from both Kalifornia and Washington DC?
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison could not get a DC permit. I wonder what the difference was? It eludes me.
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Liberals are Peace Loving people who just want to be fair to all. LOVE
This weeks movie is
Michelle Get Your Gun with Ethel Merman.
#61 David, he doesn’t uh and er during prepared statements, just when he is “winging it”.
The uh’s would come if the press ask him “what kind of a barn can you hit the broadside of?”
Well, uh..er..well you know I have seen uh big barns and er uh little barns and uh…I could probably uh er shoot all of uh uh….. uh John McCains houses if uh er he uh knew where they all uh uh were. uhhhhhhh…….next question please.
sociopathic panderer of misinformation
lgm=spm
not QUITE a gun P-shop with Barack..
but close enough for kicks is the Picture of him with Che..
Ron About uh’s and er’s
Years ago I suffered from the same malady. That was before I developed my core values. It was used as a device to pander to my friends. I was only 23 at that time but Obama should have his values nailed down by now. The MSM now call Obama’s habit as “thoughtful consideration”. I call it a sign of no principles.
# 47 Arizona N.
WHERE can we purchase that SHIRT?!
As to the B Hussein O’s. statement :
B.Hussein O.:
With YOUR Anti – 2nd amendment programs–the ONLY ONES WITH AK47s will BE the CRIMINALS!!!!!
That was too funny GW.
Bruce #46
Not to argue the point, but a .577 Nitro Express is a double rifle, and that clown is shooting a single bbl bolt action rifle. Having worked in the ammo manufacturing sector, and loaded (and shot) ammunition for everything up to .600 Nitro Express, I can say I’ve never seen a bolt action rifle for a cartridge that large, that doesn’t have a muzzlebrake to reduce recoil.
Black Shirt
White Shirt
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Can’t we all just get along? NO?
Yes I know, I am obsessing. You can bet on it. What in the hell happened to my country? Who are these young people doing nothing? I do wish I was there. Yet I would lose but I would not stand around looking befuddled. Orchidectomys for them all.
lgm,
HAHHHAHHAAAHHHAAAAAHHHHAAAAAA
You have to try hard to out do your other idiotic rantings (thinking the latest OJ comments). Tell us oh supreme one, how do you get criminals to obey laws they have decided to ignore? Pass yet more laws making it harder form us to own guns?
:little Johnny in the back raises his hand and jumps up and down
“I know, I know!!! We can make murder illegal and we will not have to worry about any guns!!”
Good for you Johnny, now you to can be a liberal, idiot math teacher!
That’s right…make a law against it and you are guaranteed that no one will ever do it again.
Bloody brilliant.
Just like he did in Chicago. You can walk around and chit-chat with the residents and all is well. No wait, that’s Iraq, sorry, Obama’s old hood is still too dangerous.
BO, with a gun? There ought to be a law!
Don’t forget, that Joe Biden is also one of the most rabid anti-gunners in the Senate. I’m really hoping the 2A comes up in the VP debates, ‘cuz Sarah! is gonna wipe the floor with old Joe on that one.
And having Sarah!, an NRA Life Member in the White House oughta help keep McCain in line, as his 2A record ain’t exactly stellar (although infinitely better than that of The Chosen One). I’m sure she won’t just be standing by quietly if Johnny tries to sign some bill outlawing gun shows, as he is want to do.
On August 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, right_on said:
Bruce #46
Not to argue the point, but a .577 Nitro Express is a double rifle, and that clown is shooting a single bbl bolt action rifle. Having worked in the ammo manufacturing sector, and loaded (and shot) ammunition for everything up to .600 Nitro Express, I can say I’ve never seen a bolt action rifle for a cartridge that large, that doesn’t have a muzzlebrake to reduce recoil.
That’s what it was identified as in the video, right-on. I load my own and have for years too, but the industry has come up with crazier things than a bolt action .577 before. Who would have thought there’d be a bolt action .50mg?
Not arguing, man – just sayin that’s what it was ID’d as.
Perfect! Great capture of the essence of Che Guevara Chic! Viva Revolucion!
This is the Obama’s duck huntin’ photo-op which you await . . . enter ramBO . . .
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w110/pitmangraphics/ramBO.jpg
I live in So Cal. If we all gave up our guns the only ones left with guns would be the gang bangers. Many of the illegal. Almost everyday we have innocence bystanders killed because of drive by shootings. Maybe we could outlaw cars as well as guns and that will solve the problem.
As far as I am concerned, any politician who votes on any of our basic rights should be recalled, impeached, or voted out of office.
When politicians go into office for the sole purpose of modifying our rights, they are only there to inhibit. They are not there to “protect” us. That is the job of police, fire, military, etc. NOT the politician.
Everyone should enjoy the freedoms we instill. Ms. Malkin and we are enjoying both Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Press right now. Right now.
I have no problem for anyone here to file for a gun license for concealed weapons. I have no problem for anyone here going to get a handgun, assult rifle, or even and M-79 grenade launcher. You do have the right to own these and can file to get the paperwork.
That’s not true at all and you know it.
You are leaving out all the neighborhood unlicensed pharmaceutical agents, the petty thugs and purse snatchers, the ex-cons, the FFA (Future Felons of America) ad various other wonderful members and contributors to society of their ilk.
Saying that only the gang-bangers would have guns is just plain wrong.
Oh…and I would bet more than a fair number of Residentially Challenged Urban Nomads as well.
Uh-huh. And how is Obama going to do that without imposing a police state? We have anywhere between 12 to 30 million people who have managed to be smuggled or smuggle themselves into the US illegally. Likewise, how many tons of weed, blow and heroin get smuggled into the US daily?* You don’t think those same cartels would move to smuggle weapons too?
Tell you what, when Obama can shut down the drug cartels, or at least keep them from shipping drugs here and keep people from entering the US illegally and maintain American liberties, I’ll believe his BS about stopping criminals from getting AKs while maintaining our liberties. Till I see that, it’s all a bunch of lies and demagoguery in an effort to impose fascist gun control policy.
* The Drug War is an epic waste of time and taxpayer money, but my point still stands
I just bought another gun today. It’s my right.
And maybe Obama thinks I’m some redneck living in denial, but I have a Master’s in Mathematics and work for NASA.
Still clinging, though.
…let’s settle this like gentlemen…Sarah Palin and smokin’ joe on the field of honor ( or dishonor, depending on your party affiliation) AR 15s at ten paces…
When you swallow this crap, does your mind still manage to tell you that it tastes like grape KoolAid?
He can say anything he likes, but his past actions are indicative of his future goals.
ROFL!!! That really made my day!
Speaking of Obama-pansy, I loved what Mark Steyn said about Obama getting physical:
Sarah Palin is a heck of a lot more dynamic than Obama. Hunter, hockey player, pilot, basketball player, marathon runner – this woman rocks! Steyn calls her not just “all American”, but “hyper American“!
Yes Obama did say that…here is the problem…too many of your liberal brethren have a view of firearm owners in which we are equated to criminals who are or should be locked up for committing obvious crimes. I have found that attitude infuriating…and some of you in Democratic party still wonder why we gave control of Congress to Republicans?
” On August 30th, 2008 at 10:03 am, see-dubya said:
BTW, I went to the NRA museum gift shop a while ago with Old Shootin’ Buddy, and they weren’t selling Dr. Lott’s book. They said people weren’t buying it fast enough. Darn shame. ”
All Lotts books are on the “SAF Book List” at http://saf.org Also available at the SAF table at Puyallup Wa Washington Arms Collectors shows for locals. They sell well, and rightly so. bk425