Bristol Palin chooses life. Now leave her alone.


Photoshop: David Lunde
The Palin family values the sanctity of life. They talk the talk and walk the walk. It is driving the Left absolutely insane beyond the farthest reaches of unhingedness. Now comes the news that 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant. “News” that wouldn’t be news but for the nutroots P.D.S. conspiracy theories that won’t die.
The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.
Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin’s five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
The official family statement on the McCain website:
“We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.
“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”
What will the bottom-feeders do next? Investigate their dating history? Hound them during their pre-natal visits a la Alan Colmes?
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We know what Obama and company think she should have done. Remember?
“Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old,” he said. “I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.
One ticket sees this as a blessing. The other sees it as a curse. Could the core differences between the two be any starker?
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Ed Morrissey shares his experience: “We have walked in the Palins’ shoes.”
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Soliel, I don’t think Sarah is pro-life…..she is anit-abortion, a big differance. A lot of us are for the death penality for rapist/killers but against killing innocent unborn.
On September 1st, 2008 at 2:29 pm, nero said:
Son, I hope you are just trying to bait us, otherwise you are in perdition. I pray for your soul…
You know, I am outnumbered here, so sometimes I miss one. But, because you asked politely:
Barak has never supported terrorism. I’m unsure what unmedicated corner of your mind came up with the idea that he supports terrorism, but please, take a pill.
There are plenty of shady financial dealings to go around, but I’m just as happy not to discuss Obama’s back yard or John McCain’s million-dollar land swaps for campaign contributors.
Obama has never called anyone a racist or attacked anyone on the basis of race. He is free to call them as he sees them.
Obama’s experience trumps Miss Congeniality’s by a long shot. But, since this was a major arrow in McCain’s quiver, I am happy to see it taken off the table.
I’m not sure where the lying thing comes from. Both campaigns have been pretty honest from the start, though, with a little flip-flopping on the McCain side.
Obama has been the object of more personal attacks than any other candidate in this race. From the flag pin bs to the madrassa rumors, he is the object of an unrelenting campaign of lies and distortion. You call off your side’s attack dogs — not the McCain campaign, but the Jerome Corsis et al — and I’ll call for moderation on Kos.
Cheers.
It is, she will be back Tuesday.
according to message sent from her blackberry… she be havin fun.
Wow, this site is full of broad brushes today!
I’m the fifty year old mother of four, married for a gazillion years.
My eldest son, 28, is proudly serving on the USS Teddy Roosevelt, about to be deployed at the end of next month. He graduated from Clemson University with a degree in Astrophysics. He is a Nuke.
My next son is 23, and was a high school football standout, pursued by several colleges and offered full ride scholarships. He decided against playing college ball and college altogether (much to my dismay) and has been a fireman for five years. He is about to go to Iraq as a private contractor.
My next child is almost eighteen. She is an AP/Honors high school senior, graduating early due to being an overachiever and having enough credits to graduate. She also happens to be the mother of an incredibly beautiful 5 and one half month old.
We financially support our grandson and he is on absolutely no public assistance, although he is qualified for it due to his circumstances.
Yes, my daughter made a bad decision in becoming sexually active. No, those are not our family values. Yes, she was on birth control and the situation arose from a three year relationship.
I am not ashamed of my daughter nor am I ashamed of my grandson. My daughter goes to school with several girls who are using the local abortion clinic for birth control. I am far more ashamed for those girls and for their enabling parents than I am for my daughter, who chose life for her son.
So some of you need to take that broad brush you are painting with and put it…away.
Hmmmm…I seem to recall in one of those glowing tributes to B. Hussein Obama something about his less than auspicious conception. His mother was not married to his father at conception. She was three months pregnant with Barry when she and her man tied the knot.
AG and atheling, what about Hippie at comment #169?
#133 BrianNY said:
Name one Republican presidential election that was similar to an episode of ‘Desperate Housewives’
Thanks, aj, and I’m glad she’s having fun!
Then I take it you’re a vegetarian? Nothing is less humane than the way they slaughter food animals. I know it pains you to think of it, but it’s a dog eats cat world. Every predator survives by killing and eating something else, whether it’s a spider, a tiger, or a human. Hunting is no less humane than any other way of killing, and a hell of a lot more humane than the way abortionists kill babies.
Because we have standards to strive for. The Lib mind doesn’t have to meet any standard because they want nothing in the way of their freedom. I suppose you feel better because you can’t fail. You may have anarchist leanings that can never be realized in defined social structure. Conservatives have set their personal standard as a guide. What is your guide sport?
Nobody said it wasn’t embarrassing. Let’s also remember that it isn’t Palin getting pregnant at 17. None of this means that Palin’s views on the issue are wrong or that she should change her values, morals and personal beliefs. I know this is hard for liberals to understand, but it is responsible to own your mistakes vice running from them and making excuses. Correct me if I am wrong, but did the Palin’s release a statement blaming anything but Bristol for Bristol’s pregnancy? Did they say that it wasn’t her fault? All I read was that they acknowledged the severity of the situation and were standing by their daughter despite the fact that she made a mistake in judgement. How does that equate to an abandonment of Conservative values?
Arguing that people can’t make mistakes and still have values is wrong on so many levels it is funny that you seem to be pushing it. That would require absolute perfection…an unattainable goal.
You might be surprised to hear this, but I don’t see a problem with what you just wrote above regarding what you tell your kids. Note, however, that you used the abstinence only argument yourself and the birth control as a caveat in the event they screwed up and knew it. You were able to use both arguments without being mutually exclusive.
However, teaching kids that “sex will happen anyway” gives them an open door to exploit the loophole.
I’d love the left to point out one attack we did against Barry O’s children. We consider them out of bounds.
Shame the left has no shame to do the same.
BemusedLIB
Unfortunately for liberals, those studies fail to ask the following:
a) Do you REMOVE contraception during intercourse
b) Do you read the directions before use?
I guess it kind of debunks your theory
We’ve been through this many times before. Biden, Boxer, Clinton, Kerry all those wonderful, peace-loving liberal democrats voted FOR the war and to amend the War Powers Act.
Democrats in Congress led by Reid and Pelosi and democrats from previous terms who can’t say NO because it might hurt someone’s feelings.
As far as I’m concerned, you BOTH were irresponsible.
Gay marriage is wrong, gays raising children are wrong, and I have entirely secular arguments that can prove any point that a liberal can come up with.
Now, I don’t suppose liberals bloggers can leave republican teenage girls alone for a change? Or do I need to elaborate on why I think they spend time doing so?
I’ll be praying for your children, bemusedlib. You can be sure of that. I’ll include Ms. Palin as well.
It happens on EVERY single conservative blog. They just can’t help themselves. All they accomplish is making fools of themselves.
Ordinary Coloradoan said,
[I fixed it, btw] OC, I take it you don’t remember the Bush girl’s fake ID stories? Gosh, that’s something new, a college coed with a fake ID. Never heard it when Chelsea was in school…d’ya think Clinton’s daughter didn’t? If she did, we’ll never know. Just depends on the side of the aisle they’re on! Disgusting, but true! GOP children are never off the “victim list” to the left.
So, you don’t want to be taken seriously on this blog, eh?
Roger that.
As a liberal I read the daily kos blog and was not disgusted but intrigued at first, the Palin pregnancy is very strange indeed with many unanswered questions, the biggest of which is why in the world would she fly 8 hours home to Alaska after her water broke? After that initial quizzical reaction I realized, its none of my damn business. I totally agree this is a private matter and has no bearing whatsoever as to how Palin will govern. I hope all sides drop the matter all together and allow the Palin family privacy in this matter. What we should focus on is the policies she and Mccain will try to implement, and what if any views on foreign policy she holds.
Ok, care to detail his executive experience?
Did you just fall into your “moral equivalency” trap?
But yeah, out of line.
The stark contrast is between the party of life vs the party of murder. Baby killers will forever live in my mind from those american communists who smeared our troops returning from Vietnam.
Gustav now a Category 1 hurricane. Over at dailykos, a Category 90. They are imploding.
The Iraq War? Good grief Libby, where does that fit in?
While I do oppose National Health Insurance I do support National Boot Retrieval Insurance.Yes, National Boot Retrieval Insurance paid for by a tax on Liberals- say a 15% surcharge on any income tax they may pay or take them to the blood bank and start pumping. Or both.
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Hey Obama-What to see Bitter?
Look at your wife.
WE SHOULD BE CIVIL-WE CONSERVATIVES?
Not a chance.
William Amos said Umm Obama said he will continue the war in Afghanistan and even considers attack Pakistan. So why are you giving him a free pass ?
I hear crickets chirping. Anyone else out there?
What truly is embarrassing about this whole situation is that McCain decided to go ahead with this pick as VP. Oh, us conservatives must really be excited now, unfortunately, now we have to muster up even more pseudo excitement and pretend to want to defend the actions of a VP, exactly what you don’t want from a VP candidate.
VP’s can sink you, but they will hardly ever help you. By listening to so many on here, you would have thought, Palin was the last surviving woman conservative that wasn’t a DC insider.
I am faced more and more with the realization that whether I am here or on a liberal blog, the site is filled with hacks that will go down swinging backing up their party over principles any day of the week.
Palin’s daughter chooses life over death, great! She made a mistake and is accepting it, great! But all of this means we conservatives now get to be drug through the mud as well. This makes a hypocrite of all of us when you preach family values and good parenting skills and the need for this country to get its bearings back and then this happens. Her daughter is not a responsible young women. If she were 25, things would be a little different. But this is a direct reflection on Palin’s parenting skills and ability to control her household.
Yes, I am glad at the decisions following the revelation (except for the getting married part, nothing like following one bad decision with another), but the political realm is not the place for Palin and for trashing conservatism a little more.
If you ask me, this is another knife in conservatism that McCain so loves to do.
Me and my wife had a baby at 17, that was 21 years ago. Now he is in college about to graduate. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. You north east liberals piss me off. So what is the perfect age for you liberals to have a baby. I see people thirty years old that are disasters as parents. I suspect that the way she was raised that her and her husband and new baby will have a great life. I didn’t turn out so bad either, money in the bank and 5000 acres. Oh by the way, my other son was homeschooled and also now in college at 17.
Gee, BO, what took you so long? Needed that rumor to churn a little more, huh?
He’s shocked, SHOCKED I say.
I tried to get BemusedLib to think critically about Obama for a change, but yeah…crickets.
Doesn’t fit the narrative to question Obama on anything.
You’re right Obama doesn’t have much executive experience, sans running a very effective campaign organization. Care to detail Mccains? Or detail what Palin did in office as Mayor?
Is it ok if we don’t take you seriously?
The sound of silence…
The difference you fail to see here is that we are acknowledging this isn’t the best thing to happen, however, we are also compassionate enough to forgive.
It’s not a matter of principles, it’s a matter of realizing one’s mistakes and not condemning them for life.
That is the difference. Sorry to say, liberals don’t think the same way.
My favorite versions was uttered by Bob dole, I believe during a debate: “You hafta talk the walk.”
And that’s about how I feel regarding many comments here and reaction from the deranged left: you people are confused. You want to dictate (to one extreme or the other) the personal lives of others. You make judgments without being there, simply because you know how all people should live.
I say all of you who are criticizing the Palins for this — and believe it should make her leave the race — are “talking the walk.”
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
And found wanting in charity and human decency.
Keep in mind the fact that Donut sees this site as an equivalent to sites like Huffpo and DKos.
That should tell you all you need to know.
I can’t get over the comments coming from our trolls on this thread. I guess nobody remembers some of their mistakes as a young teenager. All I can say is at least Bristol Palin is taking responsibility for this unplanned pregnancy by choosing life instead of murder. To include myself I quote a great man and my personal savior, “Let he without sin cast the first stone.”
Freemind…care to read?
And here is Obama’s very thin resume:
Absolutely. Further, can you imagine the buzz on this site were a Democrat to announce his/her teen daughter was pregnant and keeping the baby? I have a hard time imagining the decision to “choose life” would receive the rousing applause Bristol is receiving (save your hyperbolic statements about Democrats never choosing life. That’s 1) not true and 2) a diversionary tactic from the question at hand). I imagine there would be a lot more calling into question of parenting skills, the Democrat’s (and Democrats’) values and the direction of the country. Just a hunch.
So, let me get this straight. Teen pregnancy is good if the teen is of means, bad if she isn’t? Interesting take. I stand by the idea that teen pregnancy is a problem no matter what the class of the impregnated girl.
Exactly my thought. I’m certainly more excited about hearing the thoughts of Sarah Palin than I was before. The debates just got a whole lot more interesting!
That bit in bold must be a typo. Because I’m sure that, on a site where prying into and judging every aspect of Obama’s life (including his use of gherkins in tuna salad, for pete’s sake) is standard process, scrutiny of every detail of every candidate’s life is fully encouraged!
As for the idea that the mainstream media is attacking “a kid” by reporting this story…It seems less invasive than, say, literally poking around the home of two children (one left brain damaged in an accident) to prove that they were not deserving of the life saving subsidized medical care they received. I’m just saying — there wasn’t much outcry here against that. When did everyone become so concerned about protecting “the kids?”
This is not the michellemalkin.com that I knew.
Aside from experience, or lack thereof, may we have a comparison of the useful accomplishments of the Anointed ONE (aside from writing two autobiographical books and perenially running political campaigns) and Palin, please.
And we already know Palin has accomplished distracting the MSM(and infecting it with PDS) from its undivided attention to the Obamessiah since she’s been nominated.
Wow, that post was a smorgasbord of analytical errors. Where does one begin to critique?
Ms Palin made an error in judgment that will be of great impact on her young life. Her parents , for sure, taught her right from wrong and all that comes with wishing a happy and safe life for their children. It didn’t happen, She’s pregnant. Now, the choices have been made to keep the baby and the father marry his child’s mother. None of you know the dynamics of those choices, but many have decided to type here that it may have been forced on him, but I doubt it. Many of you think that is juicy because you think that we social and political conservatives are now getting pie in our faces. Well, sorry chumps. We know that we as humans are fallible and always fall short. That is God’s decision to give us choice. But, we are seeing the correct, honorable and moral actions that will now occur. You who espouse the secular believe in free sex and no abstinence and no ethics will never comprehend those facts. So find something else to show your complete ignorance and hatred on. I will be one who will, loudly and overtly if needed, defend the Palin family.
EHHH! Wrong. He has a campaign manager to do that. Truth is, his executive experience consists of running the Annenberg Challenge, and I can see why you wouldn’t want to bring that up.
To bad Mary Jo never had a chance to have a baby. On top of that you Dems and libtards hoist her killer up as some kind of saint at the DNC.
barf.
Obama himself has come out and said Bristol is off limits, and reminded everyone his mother was single when she got pregnant with him at 18. Obama is the candidate, Bristol is not. I’ll give him kudos for this.
Executive experience is a BS issue. George Bush had an MBA and was a governor, and his administration has been a mess of incompetence and false morves…Iraq, Katrina, budget overruns, etc. Clinton was a governor for ten years and his first year was a mess, as well. McCain has no more executive experience than Obama.
The hired help makes the trains run on time — Chief of Staff and the cabinet officials. The President determines the direction the train is going. That’s what’s impotant.
Palin is the successful governor of a small state whose budget is 80% funded by oil royalties. She has no experience at all with issues and ideas beyond the far-flung borders of Alaska, and it shows in the way that she’s presented not as a competent leader, but as shorthand for the same old conservative ideals that even I can name and a sop to women whom McCain desperately needs. She ain’t ready for prime time.
x2, Obama gets credit when credit is due.
Interesting theory by tech blogger John Dvorak:
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=22954
Hey Doh NUT,
Apparently you don’t have children. They are a roll of the dice and when they get to be near-adults they start thinking they have it all figured out. Some make stupid decisions because God gave them and us free wills. But then I would suppose that you wouldn’t understand since you a perfect and have made good choices every time. Hey, do me a favor and walk on water for us.
Well, after reading all the comments in this thread, I’ve come to a conclusion:
Palin was the best choice McCain could have made. I’ve never seen the left running sooooo scared!
McCain/Palin 08′
Now leave her alone.
Golden post.
Neither is Obama, based on your assessment of what constitutes “ready for prime time”.
You do realize you just shot yourself in the foot, right?
On September 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm, Donut44 said:
Nice try, lib. Now go back to Kos.
And niether is your Big O. But then he is at the top of your ticket, she is not.
HAHAHA this is hilarious. This pick will prove to be the death knell for the conservative movement once Palin is fully vetted. Another gem from an interview in 2006:
HAHAHAHAHA
I agree. Intellectual dishonesty reached a new level in that one.
There must be an accademic name for his form of dicourse. I need to find my old LOGIC 101 text book. I think he broke all the rules.
OK, you can insult Alaska and Palin all you want (regardsless of the fact that she is in charge of a $6.6 billion budget and thousands of employees — Barack – none of the above), but who else in this country, liberal or conservative has an 80% approval rating?
Huh?
OK, I think I see where this was going but what a rube!
See what I mean? The lower they go, the more vicious they get, the easier the conservatives will win.
I love it!
Bring it On!
Real nice Patriot and certainly something I would expect from our liberal friends, but I have come to see that it is the case here and in nature in general. When faced with a chance to talk, you would rather denegrate because you have no persuasive ability to reason or talk. First a play on words with my name (that is a new one and extremely 8 year oldish), then broad assumptions about who I am (again, nothing of substance), and then just a total random pretending that I am making myself better than everyone else (total unsubstantiated by my post).
I have no need to do in kind, but I will explain again. I am pleased with the families choices and decisions and yes, we have all made mistakes. But these mistakes do not exonerate me from taking responsibility for them, including the repercussions. If we conservatives are going to preach something, why would then invite the criticism of “hypocrite” by having this pop up?
Stay on topic Patriot, I have nothing to do with this, unless you don’t want to respond to my words.
I am 32, live in Conroe, TX with my wife of 5 years and our young daughter. I do not speak from extreme experience nor from perfection, but instead from a concerned, conservative American who is sick and tired of demanding more from the people, but getting less from our leaders.
Principles first, party is a way distant 53rd.
“Behold, children are a gift of the Lord, The fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, so are the children of one’s youth. How blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them; They will not be ashamed when they speak with their enemies in the gate.” ~Psalm 127:3-5
We frequently remind ourselves of this verse during times like this. I wonder though, why don’t we read other verses like these?
“Daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you: Do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires.” Song of Solomon 8:4 (it only had to be said three times in this book)
“A wise son makes a father glad, but a foolish son is a grief to his mother.” ~Proverbs 10:1
“A wise son makes a father glad, but a foolish man despises his mother.” ~Proverbs 15:20
“He who sires a fool does so to his sorrow, and the father of a fool has no joy.” ~Proverbs 17:21
“A foolish son is a grief to his father and bitterness to her who bore him.” ~Proverbs 17:25
“Discipline your son while there is hope, and do not desire his death.” ~Proverbs 19:18
A child is a blessing only if the parents use their home to raise and train their sons to be godly Men and daughters to be godly Women. Otherwise, they grow up to be little hellions, to the dismay and bafflement of many. As for me, as a warrior, I don’t want a quiver of crooked arrows.
AlohaGuy said: Is it ok if we don’t take you seriously?
#142 bemused lib said:
I didn’t know that. What is abstinence-only’s failure rate?
Striking your partisan comments for the purpose of clarity, are you saying that the highlighting of various liberal irresponsibilities has now been rendered hollow by Bristol Palin’s out of wedlock pregnancy? By that logic, shouldn’t your arguments here ring hollow since I don’t have a bastard child?
Oh, and it’s “the” young Ms. Palin’s…not “the the” young Ms. Palin’s.
Oh, and it’s charges “of” “liberal irresponsibility”…not charges “or” “liberal irresponsibility.
Oh, and it’s “as” well, not “was” well.
You know, like dakine says…moral equivalence.
How does this make me a lib? Because I question why McCain would choose a controversial VP pick that goes against conservative core values???
No, because you say things like this.
What core conservative values has Sarah Palin gone against?
Seriously.
BlameAmericaLast, I agree and I am all for forgiving, but not to drag this into the political realm. While so many on here want to castigate me for my comments, which is fine, I am amazed that so many on here, but wanting to forgive, think this is good for McCain and good for Palin and her family.
Have you seen the MSM rip people apart? Is this really where we want this poor girl and her family? And how long before McCain throws her under the bus with the others?
It is my observation that McCain isn’t the candidate throwing folks under the bus.
You must not be reading the same things I am reading. Who here said a 17 year old getting pregnant out of wedlock is admirable?
I see a lot of people praising Bristol’s (and her family’s) handling of the situation, but none that take pride in the fact that it happened in the first place.
And now they’re going to think how wonderful they were to drum this up. Which means they will continue with this sort of crap, just to see what sticks, forever.
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Responsibility after the poor choice of having sex out of wedlock should always be praised as a good thing.
Anyone who criticizes this or try’s to distort it into blame on the sexual education chosen, or the abilities of the parents, has already lost the argument.
Then to further embarrass themselves by trying to make this a testament to the apocrypha of conservatives just enforces my belief that Liberals are for anything that destroys, and against anything that is constructive. Take abortion for example, that’s what I call destruction!
Omu
I’m waiting to hear where you found your social standards. You must some. Where did they come from?
Yes, in fact the MSM rips people apart all the time. Right now, the NYT has this headline on the front page:
“Palin’s Teen Daughter Is Pregnant; New G.O.P. Tumult” followed by a picture showing her holding Trig.
I guess you can say this is where the NYT’s wants her and her family — and to embarrass them to the fullest extent. So much for privacy and leaving the “children” alone. Would they have done this to Chelsea Clinton? No way! She is still being protected (read: off limits) and she’s in her late 20′s. Far beyond “childhood”.
McCain isn’t the type to throw anyone under the bus. He would never do that.
Libs (NYT falls into this category), have no arguments, so they resort to fabrications and distortions as proven by the picture associated with the headline.
If this thread is any indication, conservatives are unscathed by this announcement. Instead, it confirms the steadfastness of conservatives in the face of adversity.
BlameAmericaLast
One thing you left out of the Obama write up earlier …
He was technically “elected” to the Senate in 2004 but he did not actually “win” the election …
He was way behind in the polls when mysteriously a judge “unsealed” the details from his opponents messy divorce which contained various accusations in both directions of sexual indiscretions resulting in his Republican opponent being forced to withdraw from the election …
In other words … just over 2 weeks before election day there was Chicago political skullduggery by a judge which meant that Obama was now “unopposed” for the Senate seat …
Just thought you might like to know “the rest of the story” … with apologies to Paul Harvey …
Late to this thread, heard the news on the radio, couldn’t wait to see what our resident liberals had to say. They didn’t disappoint, they are salivating over this as if it proves their pre-conceived notions about Conservatives. The fact is that Conservatives believe in trying to live up to a certain set of values, we realize that some will make mistakes, but that doesn’t mean that we should abandon those values. The Liberals believe that whatever feels good is okay, and therein lies the problem with that mindset, there are no values to live up to. Jesus knew we were imperfect, but that’s okay, as long as we don’t abandon the quest to reach for perfection.
On September 1st, 2008 at 3:32 pm, Donut44 said:
Well, your comment reads like the kind of thing that a lib would post… not an obvious idiot lib like we usually see, but one who is insidiously attempting to torpedo McCain/Palin.
Name a VP candidate pick who wouldn’t have been controversial… who wouldn’t have been lib-fodder… who wouldn’t be related to someone who made a mistake. Obama and Biden are tainted with way more controversy, and yet they skate. It burns me up. I gave up on the Republican party a long time ago. My hope is that this beltway-outsider, seemingly principled and conservative Palin, will re-innergize the conservative movement. Maybe she is the spark to reignite the grassroots to reform the Republican Party. Palin’s candidacy has certainly excited me.
You make it sound like McCain picking her is a supreme disaster. I strongly disagree.
It appears the comment has been removed and I see no further comments from that delinquent.
I am not in favor of abstinence only sex-ed, but I really don’t think that is an issue here. This is at the core an anecdotal story about one girl’s mistake that she is instead turning into a blessing by choosing life.
I admire McCain more and more. He knew about this and still chose the best candidate for the country, and I do not think he will be throwing Palin under the bus any time soon.
Boilermaker, when I said I don’t see how this is good for McCain or the family, I didn’t mean her daughter’s decision(s).
I mean I don’t see how making Palin the VP candidate can be good for McCain or Palin and her family. Palin is going to be ripped apart and worst of all, so will her family. I predict in a week and a half, she will no longer be the VP.
As for not thinking McCain will throw people under the bus, he has done it repeatedly in this campaign so far and will continue. Phil Gramm was the latest, but they have thrown several state GOPs under the bus, a few prominent staffers and I am sure more.
DesertLover…
Thanks! I did forget about that. Funny how those “sealed” records mysteriously become unsealed, huh?
I recall right before the 2000 presidential election same thing happened to GWB when his “sealed” records on his drunk driving issue were mysteriously unsealed the weekend before the election by a Democrat-appointed “judge”.
No politics were involved.
Yeah, thanks for the reminder.
So, you want to compare resumes?
First let let me tell you that my impression from reading your post is that Palin shouldn’t have been the “pick”. Why? Because her daughter isn’t pure as the driven snow? So that makes Sarah a poor parent and therefore not an example of true conservatism? Tell me what Palin has done to prove she is a closet liberal. You can’t. Nobody is perfect (so no, I did not expect you to walk across the Gulf and extinguish Gustav.)but I believe choosing Palin as a running mate was a stunning and brilliant move.
And so, I’m a 50+ born again Christian former United States Marine biker that owns guns, hunts, works for a living, thinks on my own, husband to one wife for 29 years, father to two grown children with one grandson and loves to eat donuts for breakfast.
No doubt Jet, you are right, but again, I can’t see how an issue like this is something the GOP needs or wants and certainly not an issue that is good for conservatives. Can I be wrong? Of course. My wife seems to think that this can be a strong selling point (and she is obviously more right then me
somemost of the time).As for torpedoing McCain, he can do that himself well enough and just because someone attacks McCain, it does not make them a liberal. It might not make them a republican, but certainly not a liberal. I can not, nor will I try to speak for anyone on this board, but I do know I am far more conservative than McCain is or wants to be.
BTW Donut, Sarah Palin and John McCain are big girls and boys and can decide how this is good for their families. Your job is to choose whether or not you want them to lead this country. If you don’t like this ticket I can assure you you wont like the Socialist version.
You really predict she will step down?
I imagine people will lose interest in this fairly quickly… it’s not terribly interesting as scandals go. Honestly, if this were a male candidate no one would be talking about him stepping down over his daughter’s pregnancy. I hate to go there, but it’s true.
Beautiful feint within a feint.
Sucker the scumbags, letting them speculate about the Maternity of the youngster Trigg Palin. Once the gutter speculation has had time to propagate throughout the ‘Scumosphere’, reveal that even Senator McCain knew of the Expectant new Mom in the Palin Family.
I guess even scumosphere math can’t call Young Master Trigg anything but Sarah’s child and Bristol’s little brother.
FWIT – Sounds like an average American Family, with issues best handled by the ‘Family’, NOT The Village.
People who live in glass houses…..How many Dems failed to face the consequences of their actions until it was jammed down their throats and they we’re NOT 17; Spitzer and call girls, Clinton and Monica & etc, Jessie Jackson plus love child, Edwards and Hunter. The list goes on and on. If it is done by a conservative or a republican it’s a crime; done by a liberal or dem, it’s a trend. These whinny adults expect children to behave better than they do inspite of the fact that they have created a social cesspool of amoral values under the banner of tolerance. Since the discussion has sunk to this level, it is clear that the dems really have no important issues to debate and prefer the use of character assassination for a platform.
Patriot, I do not want to compare resumes, and was merely giving my description to let you know who I am and that I am not some wolf in sheeps clothing since your entire post in response to mine was nothing but a personal attack on me. Which is a sign that you do not want to talk, but instead want to come out swinging. So, I merely wanted to invite you to swing away and I promise to let you hit me (given your resume, I am sure I couldn’t block it even if I tried).
The mere fact that the actions done by the daughter are against the “family values” object of a conservative agenda does not now automatically make Palin a liberal and I sure don’t recall implying she is one. However, it would be glaring contradiction. I never said anything with the word “perfect” in it, but this is hardly like she was caught cheating on a spelling test in school. This is a reflection on her as a parent (does not send her to parent hell or anything even close of course) and on her family, and I bet you would feel the same. From a personal stand point, this does not make her family a bad family or her a bad person, but politics, especially a presidential campaign is not the place for her. And it is unrealistic and unacceptable that conservatives have to have this as well.
On September 1st, 2008 at 4:10 pm, Donut44 said:
Donut, I apologize for calling you a lib. I shouldn’t have jumped the gun like that. I understand your concern about Palin, but I really think she is a wonderful VP pick. I do not trust McCain as a Senator or President. Let’s hope that Palin can keep him straight.
I normally wouldn’t troll for libs regarding my repeated question of where do your standards come from, but this goes to the core of our differences. I set my standards as high as possible. I’ve failed countless times and keep trying. The highest standard as an ideal are there for the betterment of myself and my culture. Why would your set the lower or relative to you convenience.
No biggie, it is obvious from many of the responses to my post(s), I didn’t explain what I was saying very well.
So you would say that her place is in the home and not the White House?
Dude, I don’t know what you would consider qualifications to be a bona fide conservative choice for VP but I can tell you I like her better than Romney.
Oh, and I promise, no more personal attacks. But I will tell you when I think you are being ignorant.
OK let’s not condemn Sarah Palin’s daughter, who didn’t choose to be in the public eye. At the same time, maybe we can refrain from condemning those who get aids by making essentially the same mistake.
(claps hands) Over here, brah. Please direct your questions to the chair.
Hi Gertrude! Ummm yea, that would be the moral equivalent. What a marooon!
You are a mental giant, lgm.
You might want to brush up on your anatomy. I don’t believe HIV enters the body through the eye…unless you’re pioneering some new positions.
If the KOS and its ilk don’t leave conservative children alone they are going to end up either beaten to a pulp or their families will be “fair game.” And of course we need to start a conversation about liberals families. I wonder what Nancy Pelosi’s family is up too. Nice of her to supply photos of them all when she was sworn in as speaker. I wonder if ole’ Nancy would be pissed off if they became, “fair game” – like her son – is he still getting paid $180,000 a year from Info USA? And of course BO has a brother, a Muslim brother, living in a hut – lets see whats up with BO’s bro. And Michelle seemed a bit touchy about her kids – I bet they learned some terrible things about the USA – maybe we can get them on video repeating the hate USA filth they heard from their parents and their godfather and pastor. Bet she would be upset. But they thoe kids are fair game. Harry Reid’s son worked for Ms. Clinton’s campaign – will he be paid and other workers get shafted – was he paid more than other more qualified minorities? The drive by media families are el primo fair game of course. And then there are the KOS trash. Their families surely are “fair game.” You can bet some are in trouble with the law with such “loving” parents. The only way to stop this madness is to treat the liberals to a dose of their own medicine. We have nuclear weapons to keep the commies from using theirs. Nuke a few liberal families and then KOS will crawl back under its rock or maybe a few will meet with misfortune from some Democrat thugs. Either way we will keep our families safe.
Lol, fair enough, then I must commend you for restraint, because I am sure I have crossed that line already.
If my two choices have to be between Palin and Romney, then I chose her as well. But I am still just amazed that this is the last surviving female conservative on the planet (exageration of course, and bad spelling). I just don’t understand why invite this type of controversy and why Palin would subject her family to this.
Here’s a fair story from TIME magazine, of all places.