Bristol Palin chooses life. Now leave her alone.
Photoshop: David Lunde
The Palin family values the sanctity of life. They talk the talk and walk the walk. It is driving the Left absolutely insane beyond the farthest reaches of unhingedness. Now comes the news that 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant. “News” that wouldn’t be news but for the nutroots P.D.S. conspiracy theories that won’t die.
The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.
Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin’s five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
The official family statement on the McCain website:
“We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.
“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”
What will the bottom-feeders do next? Investigate their dating history? Hound them during their pre-natal visits a la Alan Colmes?
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We know what Obama and company think she should have done. Remember?
“Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old,” he said. “I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.
One ticket sees this as a blessing. The other sees it as a curse. Could the core differences between the two be any starker?
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Ed Morrissey shares his experience: “We have walked in the Palins’ shoes.”
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Well, Omu and sausage have checked in as well. Once lgm and POS make an appearance, we will have the complete collection on one thread.
Perhaps a bumper sticker on Michelle’s car:
“Our two daughters survived their mother’s womb.”
OK, that’s pretty harsh, but after all, isn’t that what this debate is about?
Well it would have if – like using a condom – she had followed the directions…
Birth control – isn’t it a family matter and not a Federal government issue? The nanny state is everywhere.
BemusedLIB
Forget it. This situation calls for EVEN more abstinence-only education and it has NO bearing whatsoever on the responsibility of liberals, except that a 17-year-old is setting an example for many of the liberals over the age of 50.
On September 1st, 2008 at 2:27 pm, nero said:
Wow, nero, you’ve convinced me. I guess I should begin educating my kids to safely and responsibly indulge in every sort of controversial or evil behavior that they are likely to encounter. How naive of me to think that, with God’s help, I could discipline, encourage, and inspire my children to lead noble and virtuous lives.
Strange, you don’t have the brains to differentiate between an adult who makes speeches while campaigning for her husband and a 17 year old who has been silent.
Strange, how you libtards come out of the woodwork with your prissy, hypocritical, and puritanical condemnation on this thread, but completely are silent on the vicious slander your ilk have been slinging against Gov. Palin and her Downs Syndrome baby.
You people have no credibility whatsoever. I don’t know how you all sleep at night.
atheling, I don’t think Michelle’s blog is limited to conservatives but she does expect the liberals here to have a certian amount of respect. I know how hard it must be for them but I’ll agree with you.
“Faux News Alert”
Due to GUSTAV there is a shortage of Wahhhhhhhhbulances in the United States.
Trolls Libs and Dems are highly advised to Hang in There for at least 4 days.
Once things calm down and are back to normal Help will head your way.
In the mean time..
NOT DRINKING ANY MORE KOOL-AID IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED.
film at 11:00
Ms. Pallin has regard for human life and that is good but she is not totally pro-life. If she were, she’d have more respect for wildlife and other animals that share the planet with us. She has zero and is cold hearted in this regard.
I do not think this is something to be proud of, for either Democrat or Republican.
I am a conservative but I am a humane conservative.
My mom was, too. She supported the Humane Society and felt with hunting animals “don’t have a chance”.
Not all conservatives get thrilled with an idea of a hunter in office. Many of us find it very barbaric and mean and indicative of something missing in one’s character.
Palin’s daughter isn’t involved in the campaign. Michelle Obama is right in the thick of it. There is a difference.
Michelle – please see comment #172.
I think it’s way over the line and am asking you to ban nero.
Thxs.
Are you insulting Obama’s grandmother?
Soliel:
Uh, do you eat meat? The animals Ms. Palin hunts have a better chance than those in a stockyard.
Think about it.
The human condition is very plain to see. Scripture says all have sinned and fallen short of the Lord.
It says ALL not just children.
The Good News is not that we sin, but that we have a forgiving Father who loved us enough to do something about that sin. There is not a single child of God who has not disappointed Him, but His love for that child is measured by the Cross. He took the punishment for our sin so that we might have life.
Are we any different from Palin’s daughter? Much in need of all God has for us in Christ.
#123 dakine said:
I thought the Kos Kidz, Andrew Sullivan and others were trying to make “Governor Palin faked having her daughter’s baby” an issue? There’s nothing like jumping the shark right before a very real situation presents itself.
It has as much as relevance as Alexander Hamilton being conceived out of wedlock. Both are examples of success stories born from difficult situations. Hopefully, Bristol Palin’s baby will experience the same in life.
More specifically, I believe others here were pointing out the hypocrisy by some libs in pointing fingers at Governor Palin’s daughter, when their own candidate is the product of a similar experience.
Personally, I love moral equivalence, when used properly. Baby Palin and Barack Obama’s “out of wedlock” conception status shares an equivalence, no? For some on the left to point fingers at one VP candidate’s daughter while ignoring the fact that their own Presidential candidate shares the same experience isn’t moral equivalence, it’s hypocrisy.
Soliel, I don’t think Sarah is pro-life…..she is anit-abortion, a big differance. A lot of us are for the death penality for rapist/killers but against killing innocent unborn.
On September 1st, 2008 at 2:29 pm, nero said:
Son, I hope you are just trying to bait us, otherwise you are in perdition. I pray for your soul…
You know, I am outnumbered here, so sometimes I miss one. But, because you asked politely:
Barak has never supported terrorism. I’m unsure what unmedicated corner of your mind came up with the idea that he supports terrorism, but please, take a pill.
There are plenty of shady financial dealings to go around, but I’m just as happy not to discuss Obama’s back yard or John McCain’s million-dollar land swaps for campaign contributors.
Obama has never called anyone a racist or attacked anyone on the basis of race. He is free to call them as he sees them.
Obama’s experience trumps Miss Congeniality’s by a long shot. But, since this was a major arrow in McCain’s quiver, I am happy to see it taken off the table.
I’m not sure where the lying thing comes from. Both campaigns have been pretty honest from the start, though, with a little flip-flopping on the McCain side.
Obama has been the object of more personal attacks than any other candidate in this race. From the flag pin bs to the madrassa rumors, he is the object of an unrelenting campaign of lies and distortion. You call off your side’s attack dogs — not the McCain campaign, but the Jerome Corsis et al — and I’ll call for moderation on Kos.
Cheers.
It is, she will be back Tuesday.
according to message sent from her blackberry… she be havin fun.
Wow, this site is full of broad brushes today!
I’m the fifty year old mother of four, married for a gazillion years.
My eldest son, 28, is proudly serving on the USS Teddy Roosevelt, about to be deployed at the end of next month. He graduated from Clemson University with a degree in Astrophysics. He is a Nuke.
My next son is 23, and was a high school football standout, pursued by several colleges and offered full ride scholarships. He decided against playing college ball and college altogether (much to my dismay) and has been a fireman for five years. He is about to go to Iraq as a private contractor.
My next child is almost eighteen. She is an AP/Honors high school senior, graduating early due to being an overachiever and having enough credits to graduate. She also happens to be the mother of an incredibly beautiful 5 and one half month old.
We financially support our grandson and he is on absolutely no public assistance, although he is qualified for it due to his circumstances.
Yes, my daughter made a bad decision in becoming sexually active. No, those are not our family values. Yes, she was on birth control and the situation arose from a three year relationship.
I am not ashamed of my daughter nor am I ashamed of my grandson. My daughter goes to school with several girls who are using the local abortion clinic for birth control. I am far more ashamed for those girls and for their enabling parents than I am for my daughter, who chose life for her son.
So some of you need to take that broad brush you are painting with and put it…away.
Hmmmm…I seem to recall in one of those glowing tributes to B. Hussein Obama something about his less than auspicious conception. His mother was not married to his father at conception. She was three months pregnant with Barry when she and her man tied the knot.
AG and atheling, what about Hippie at comment #169?
#133 BrianNY said:
Name one Republican presidential election that was similar to an episode of ‘Desperate Housewives’
Thanks, aj, and I’m glad she’s having fun!
Then I take it you’re a vegetarian? Nothing is less humane than the way they slaughter food animals. I know it pains you to think of it, but it’s a dog eats cat world. Every predator survives by killing and eating something else, whether it’s a spider, a tiger, or a human. Hunting is no less humane than any other way of killing, and a hell of a lot more humane than the way abortionists kill babies.
Because we have standards to strive for. The Lib mind doesn’t have to meet any standard because they want nothing in the way of their freedom. I suppose you feel better because you can’t fail. You may have anarchist leanings that can never be realized in defined social structure. Conservatives have set their personal standard as a guide. What is your guide sport?
Nobody said it wasn’t embarrassing. Let’s also remember that it isn’t Palin getting pregnant at 17. None of this means that Palin’s views on the issue are wrong or that she should change her values, morals and personal beliefs. I know this is hard for liberals to understand, but it is responsible to own your mistakes vice running from them and making excuses. Correct me if I am wrong, but did the Palin’s release a statement blaming anything but Bristol for Bristol’s pregnancy? Did they say that it wasn’t her fault? All I read was that they acknowledged the severity of the situation and were standing by their daughter despite the fact that she made a mistake in judgement. How does that equate to an abandonment of Conservative values?
Arguing that people can’t make mistakes and still have values is wrong on so many levels it is funny that you seem to be pushing it. That would require absolute perfection…an unattainable goal.
You might be surprised to hear this, but I don’t see a problem with what you just wrote above regarding what you tell your kids. Note, however, that you used the abstinence only argument yourself and the birth control as a caveat in the event they screwed up and knew it. You were able to use both arguments without being mutually exclusive.
However, teaching kids that “sex will happen anyway” gives them an open door to exploit the loophole.
I’d love the left to point out one attack we did against Barry O’s children. We consider them out of bounds.
Shame the left has no shame to do the same.
BemusedLIB
Unfortunately for liberals, those studies fail to ask the following:
a) Do you REMOVE contraception during intercourse
b) Do you read the directions before use?
I guess it kind of debunks your theory
We’ve been through this many times before. Biden, Boxer, Clinton, Kerry all those wonderful, peace-loving liberal democrats voted FOR the war and to amend the War Powers Act.
Democrats in Congress led by Reid and Pelosi and democrats from previous terms who can’t say NO because it might hurt someone’s feelings.
As far as I’m concerned, you BOTH were irresponsible.
Gay marriage is wrong, gays raising children are wrong, and I have entirely secular arguments that can prove any point that a liberal can come up with.
Now, I don’t suppose liberals bloggers can leave republican teenage girls alone for a change? Or do I need to elaborate on why I think they spend time doing so?
I’ll be praying for your children, bemusedlib. You can be sure of that. I’ll include Ms. Palin as well.
It happens on EVERY single conservative blog. They just can’t help themselves. All they accomplish is making fools of themselves.
Ordinary Coloradoan said,
[I fixed it, btw] OC, I take it you don’t remember the Bush girl’s fake ID stories? Gosh, that’s something new, a college coed with a fake ID. Never heard it when Chelsea was in school…d’ya think Clinton’s daughter didn’t? If she did, we’ll never know. Just depends on the side of the aisle they’re on! Disgusting, but true! GOP children are never off the “victim list” to the left.
So, you don’t want to be taken seriously on this blog, eh?
Roger that.
As a liberal I read the daily kos blog and was not disgusted but intrigued at first, the Palin pregnancy is very strange indeed with many unanswered questions, the biggest of which is why in the world would she fly 8 hours home to Alaska after her water broke? After that initial quizzical reaction I realized, its none of my damn business. I totally agree this is a private matter and has no bearing whatsoever as to how Palin will govern. I hope all sides drop the matter all together and allow the Palin family privacy in this matter. What we should focus on is the policies she and Mccain will try to implement, and what if any views on foreign policy she holds.
Ok, care to detail his executive experience?
Did you just fall into your “moral equivalency” trap?
But yeah, out of line.
The stark contrast is between the party of life vs the party of murder. Baby killers will forever live in my mind from those american communists who smeared our troops returning from Vietnam.
Gustav now a Category 1 hurricane. Over at dailykos, a Category 90. They are imploding.
The Iraq War? Good grief Libby, where does that fit in?
While I do oppose National Health Insurance I do support National Boot Retrieval Insurance.Yes, National Boot Retrieval Insurance paid for by a tax on Liberals- say a 15% surcharge on any income tax they may pay or take them to the blood bank and start pumping. Or both.
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Hey Obama-What to see Bitter?
Look at your wife.
WE SHOULD BE CIVIL-WE CONSERVATIVES?
Not a chance.
William Amos said Umm Obama said he will continue the war in Afghanistan and even considers attack Pakistan. So why are you giving him a free pass ?
I hear crickets chirping. Anyone else out there?
What truly is embarrassing about this whole situation is that McCain decided to go ahead with this pick as VP. Oh, us conservatives must really be excited now, unfortunately, now we have to muster up even more pseudo excitement and pretend to want to defend the actions of a VP, exactly what you don’t want from a VP candidate.
VP’s can sink you, but they will hardly ever help you. By listening to so many on here, you would have thought, Palin was the last surviving woman conservative that wasn’t a DC insider.
I am faced more and more with the realization that whether I am here or on a liberal blog, the site is filled with hacks that will go down swinging backing up their party over principles any day of the week.
Palin’s daughter chooses life over death, great! She made a mistake and is accepting it, great! But all of this means we conservatives now get to be drug through the mud as well. This makes a hypocrite of all of us when you preach family values and good parenting skills and the need for this country to get its bearings back and then this happens. Her daughter is not a responsible young women. If she were 25, things would be a little different. But this is a direct reflection on Palin’s parenting skills and ability to control her household.
Yes, I am glad at the decisions following the revelation (except for the getting married part, nothing like following one bad decision with another), but the political realm is not the place for Palin and for trashing conservatism a little more.
If you ask me, this is another knife in conservatism that McCain so loves to do.
Me and my wife had a baby at 17, that was 21 years ago. Now he is in college about to graduate. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. You north east liberals piss me off. So what is the perfect age for you liberals to have a baby. I see people thirty years old that are disasters as parents. I suspect that the way she was raised that her and her husband and new baby will have a great life. I didn’t turn out so bad either, money in the bank and 5000 acres. Oh by the way, my other son was homeschooled and also now in college at 17.
Gee, BO, what took you so long? Needed that rumor to churn a little more, huh?
He’s shocked, SHOCKED I say.
I tried to get BemusedLib to think critically about Obama for a change, but yeah…crickets.
Doesn’t fit the narrative to question Obama on anything.
You’re right Obama doesn’t have much executive experience, sans running a very effective campaign organization. Care to detail Mccains? Or detail what Palin did in office as Mayor?
Is it ok if we don’t take you seriously?
The sound of silence…
The difference you fail to see here is that we are acknowledging this isn’t the best thing to happen, however, we are also compassionate enough to forgive.
It’s not a matter of principles, it’s a matter of realizing one’s mistakes and not condemning them for life.
That is the difference. Sorry to say, liberals don’t think the same way.
My favorite versions was uttered by Bob dole, I believe during a debate: “You hafta talk the walk.”
And that’s about how I feel regarding many comments here and reaction from the deranged left: you people are confused. You want to dictate (to one extreme or the other) the personal lives of others. You make judgments without being there, simply because you know how all people should live.
I say all of you who are criticizing the Palins for this — and believe it should make her leave the race — are “talking the walk.”
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
And found wanting in charity and human decency.
Keep in mind the fact that Donut sees this site as an equivalent to sites like Huffpo and DKos.
That should tell you all you need to know.
I can’t get over the comments coming from our trolls on this thread. I guess nobody remembers some of their mistakes as a young teenager. All I can say is at least Bristol Palin is taking responsibility for this unplanned pregnancy by choosing life instead of murder. To include myself I quote a great man and my personal savior, “Let he without sin cast the first stone.”
Freemind…care to read?
And here is Obama’s very thin resume:
Absolutely. Further, can you imagine the buzz on this site were a Democrat to announce his/her teen daughter was pregnant and keeping the baby? I have a hard time imagining the decision to “choose life” would receive the rousing applause Bristol is receiving (save your hyperbolic statements about Democrats never choosing life. That’s 1) not true and 2) a diversionary tactic from the question at hand). I imagine there would be a lot more calling into question of parenting skills, the Democrat’s (and Democrats’) values and the direction of the country. Just a hunch.
So, let me get this straight. Teen pregnancy is good if the teen is of means, bad if she isn’t? Interesting take. I stand by the idea that teen pregnancy is a problem no matter what the class of the impregnated girl.
Exactly my thought. I’m certainly more excited about hearing the thoughts of Sarah Palin than I was before. The debates just got a whole lot more interesting!
That bit in bold must be a typo. Because I’m sure that, on a site where prying into and judging every aspect of Obama’s life (including his use of gherkins in tuna salad, for pete’s sake) is standard process, scrutiny of every detail of every candidate’s life is fully encouraged!
As for the idea that the mainstream media is attacking “a kid” by reporting this story…It seems less invasive than, say, literally poking around the home of two children (one left brain damaged in an accident) to prove that they were not deserving of the life saving subsidized medical care they received. I’m just saying — there wasn’t much outcry here against that. When did everyone become so concerned about protecting “the kids?”
This is not the michellemalkin.com that I knew.
Aside from experience, or lack thereof, may we have a comparison of the useful accomplishments of the Anointed ONE (aside from writing two autobiographical books and perenially running political campaigns) and Palin, please.
And we already know Palin has accomplished distracting the MSM(and infecting it with PDS) from its undivided attention to the Obamessiah since she’s been nominated.
Wow, that post was a smorgasbord of analytical errors. Where does one begin to critique?
Ms Palin made an error in judgment that will be of great impact on her young life. Her parents , for sure, taught her right from wrong and all that comes with wishing a happy and safe life for their children. It didn’t happen, She’s pregnant. Now, the choices have been made to keep the baby and the father marry his child’s mother. None of you know the dynamics of those choices, but many have decided to type here that it may have been forced on him, but I doubt it. Many of you think that is juicy because you think that we social and political conservatives are now getting pie in our faces. Well, sorry chumps. We know that we as humans are fallible and always fall short. That is God’s decision to give us choice. But, we are seeing the correct, honorable and moral actions that will now occur. You who espouse the secular believe in free sex and no abstinence and no ethics will never comprehend those facts. So find something else to show your complete ignorance and hatred on. I will be one who will, loudly and overtly if needed, defend the Palin family.
EHHH! Wrong. He has a campaign manager to do that. Truth is, his executive experience consists of running the Annenberg Challenge, and I can see why you wouldn’t want to bring that up.
To bad Mary Jo never had a chance to have a baby. On top of that you Dems and libtards hoist her killer up as some kind of saint at the DNC.
barf.
Obama himself has come out and said Bristol is off limits, and reminded everyone his mother was single when she got pregnant with him at 18. Obama is the candidate, Bristol is not. I’ll give him kudos for this.
Executive experience is a BS issue. George Bush had an MBA and was a governor, and his administration has been a mess of incompetence and false morves…Iraq, Katrina, budget overruns, etc. Clinton was a governor for ten years and his first year was a mess, as well. McCain has no more executive experience than Obama.
The hired help makes the trains run on time — Chief of Staff and the cabinet officials. The President determines the direction the train is going. That’s what’s impotant.
Palin is the successful governor of a small state whose budget is 80% funded by oil royalties. She has no experience at all with issues and ideas beyond the far-flung borders of Alaska, and it shows in the way that she’s presented not as a competent leader, but as shorthand for the same old conservative ideals that even I can name and a sop to women whom McCain desperately needs. She ain’t ready for prime time.
x2, Obama gets credit when credit is due.
Interesting theory by tech blogger John Dvorak:
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=22954
Hey Doh NUT,
Apparently you don’t have children. They are a roll of the dice and when they get to be near-adults they start thinking they have it all figured out. Some make stupid decisions because God gave them and us free wills. But then I would suppose that you wouldn’t understand since you a perfect and have made good choices every time. Hey, do me a favor and walk on water for us.
Well, after reading all the comments in this thread, I’ve come to a conclusion:
Palin was the best choice McCain could have made. I’ve never seen the left running sooooo scared!
McCain/Palin 08′
Now leave her alone.
Golden post.
Neither is Obama, based on your assessment of what constitutes “ready for prime time”.
You do realize you just shot yourself in the foot, right?
On September 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm, Donut44 said:
Nice try, lib. Now go back to Kos.
And niether is your Big O. But then he is at the top of your ticket, she is not.
HAHAHA this is hilarious. This pick will prove to be the death knell for the conservative movement once Palin is fully vetted. Another gem from an interview in 2006:
HAHAHAHAHA
I agree. Intellectual dishonesty reached a new level in that one.
There must be an accademic name for his form of dicourse. I need to find my old LOGIC 101 text book. I think he broke all the rules.
OK, you can insult Alaska and Palin all you want (regardsless of the fact that she is in charge of a $6.6 billion budget and thousands of employees — Barack – none of the above), but who else in this country, liberal or conservative has an 80% approval rating?
Huh?
OK, I think I see where this was going but what a rube!
See what I mean? The lower they go, the more vicious they get, the easier the conservatives will win.
I love it!
Bring it On!
Real nice Patriot and certainly something I would expect from our liberal friends, but I have come to see that it is the case here and in nature in general. When faced with a chance to talk, you would rather denegrate because you have no persuasive ability to reason or talk. First a play on words with my name (that is a new one and extremely 8 year oldish), then broad assumptions about who I am (again, nothing of substance), and then just a total random pretending that I am making myself better than everyone else (total unsubstantiated by my post).
I have no need to do in kind, but I will explain again. I am pleased with the families choices and decisions and yes, we have all made mistakes. But these mistakes do not exonerate me from taking responsibility for them, including the repercussions. If we conservatives are going to preach something, why would then invite the criticism of “hypocrite” by having this pop up?
Stay on topic Patriot, I have nothing to do with this, unless you don’t want to respond to my words.
I am 32, live in Conroe, TX with my wife of 5 years and our young daughter. I do not speak from extreme experience nor from perfection, but instead from a concerned, conservative American who is sick and tired of demanding more from the people, but getting less from our leaders.
Principles first, party is a way distant 53rd.
“Behold, children are a gift of the Lord, The fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, so are the children of one’s youth. How blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them; They will not be ashamed when they speak with their enemies in the gate.” ~Psalm 127:3-5
We frequently remind ourselves of this verse during times like this. I wonder though, why don’t we read other verses like these?
“Daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you: Do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires.” Song of Solomon 8:4 (it only had to be said three times in this book)
“A wise son makes a father glad, but a foolish son is a grief to his mother.” ~Proverbs 10:1
“A wise son makes a father glad, but a foolish man despises his mother.” ~Proverbs 15:20
“He who sires a fool does so to his sorrow, and the father of a fool has no joy.” ~Proverbs 17:21
“A foolish son is a grief to his father and bitterness to her who bore him.” ~Proverbs 17:25
“Discipline your son while there is hope, and do not desire his death.” ~Proverbs 19:18
A child is a blessing only if the parents use their home to raise and train their sons to be godly Men and daughters to be godly Women. Otherwise, they grow up to be little hellions, to the dismay and bafflement of many. As for me, as a warrior, I don’t want a quiver of crooked arrows.
AlohaGuy said: Is it ok if we don’t take you seriously?
#142 bemused lib said:
I didn’t know that. What is abstinence-only’s failure rate?
Striking your partisan comments for the purpose of clarity, are you saying that the highlighting of various liberal irresponsibilities has now been rendered hollow by Bristol Palin’s out of wedlock pregnancy? By that logic, shouldn’t your arguments here ring hollow since I don’t have a bastard child?
Oh, and it’s “the” young Ms. Palin’s…not “the the” young Ms. Palin’s.
Oh, and it’s charges “of” “liberal irresponsibility”…not charges “or” “liberal irresponsibility.
Oh, and it’s “as” well, not “was” well.
You know, like dakine says…moral equivalence.
How does this make me a lib? Because I question why McCain would choose a controversial VP pick that goes against conservative core values???
No, because you say things like this.
What core conservative values has Sarah Palin gone against?
Seriously.
BlameAmericaLast, I agree and I am all for forgiving, but not to drag this into the political realm. While so many on here want to castigate me for my comments, which is fine, I am amazed that so many on here, but wanting to forgive, think this is good for McCain and good for Palin and her family.
Have you seen the MSM rip people apart? Is this really where we want this poor girl and her family? And how long before McCain throws her under the bus with the others?
It is my observation that McCain isn’t the candidate throwing folks under the bus.
You must not be reading the same things I am reading. Who here said a 17 year old getting pregnant out of wedlock is admirable?
I see a lot of people praising Bristol’s (and her family’s) handling of the situation, but none that take pride in the fact that it happened in the first place.
And now they’re going to think how wonderful they were to drum this up. Which means they will continue with this sort of crap, just to see what sticks, forever.
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Responsibility after the poor choice of having sex out of wedlock should always be praised as a good thing.
Anyone who criticizes this or try’s to distort it into blame on the sexual education chosen, or the abilities of the parents, has already lost the argument.
Then to further embarrass themselves by trying to make this a testament to the apocrypha of conservatives just enforces my belief that Liberals are for anything that destroys, and against anything that is constructive. Take abortion for example, that’s what I call destruction!
Omu
I’m waiting to hear where you found your social standards. You must some. Where did they come from?
Yes, in fact the MSM rips people apart all the time. Right now, the NYT has this headline on the front page:
“Palin’s Teen Daughter Is Pregnant; New G.O.P. Tumult” followed by a picture showing her holding Trig.
I guess you can say this is where the NYT’s wants her and her family — and to embarrass them to the fullest extent. So much for privacy and leaving the “children” alone. Would they have done this to Chelsea Clinton? No way! She is still being protected (read: off limits) and she’s in her late 20’s. Far beyond “childhood”.
McCain isn’t the type to throw anyone under the bus. He would never do that.
Libs (NYT falls into this category), have no arguments, so they resort to fabrications and distortions as proven by the picture associated with the headline.
If this thread is any indication, conservatives are unscathed by this announcement. Instead, it confirms the steadfastness of conservatives in the face of adversity.
BlameAmericaLast
One thing you left out of the Obama write up earlier …
He was technically “elected” to the Senate in 2004 but he did not actually “win” the election …
He was way behind in the polls when mysteriously a judge “unsealed” the details from his opponents messy divorce which contained various accusations in both directions of sexual indiscretions resulting in his Republican opponent being forced to withdraw from the election …
In other words … just over 2 weeks before election day there was Chicago political skullduggery by a judge which meant that Obama was now “unopposed” for the Senate seat …
Just thought you might like to know “the rest of the story” … with apologies to Paul Harvey …
Late to this thread, heard the news on the radio, couldn’t wait to see what our resident liberals had to say. They didn’t disappoint, they are salivating over this as if it proves their pre-conceived notions about Conservatives. The fact is that Conservatives believe in trying to live up to a certain set of values, we realize that some will make mistakes, but that doesn’t mean that we should abandon those values. The Liberals believe that whatever feels good is okay, and therein lies the problem with that mindset, there are no values to live up to. Jesus knew we were imperfect, but that’s okay, as long as we don’t abandon the quest to reach for perfection.
On September 1st, 2008 at 3:32 pm, Donut44 said:
Well, your comment reads like the kind of thing that a lib would post… not an obvious idiot lib like we usually see, but one who is insidiously attempting to torpedo McCain/Palin.
Name a VP candidate pick who wouldn’t have been controversial… who wouldn’t have been lib-fodder… who wouldn’t be related to someone who made a mistake. Obama and Biden are tainted with way more controversy, and yet they skate. It burns me up. I gave up on the Republican party a long time ago. My hope is that this beltway-outsider, seemingly principled and conservative Palin, will re-innergize the conservative movement. Maybe she is the spark to reignite the grassroots to reform the Republican Party. Palin’s candidacy has certainly excited me.
You make it sound like McCain picking her is a supreme disaster. I strongly disagree.
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