Bristol Palin chooses life. Now leave her alone.

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 1, 2008 01:22 PM


Photoshop: David Lunde

The Palin family values the sanctity of life. They talk the talk and walk the walk. It is driving the Left absolutely insane beyond the farthest reaches of unhingedness. Now comes the news that 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant. “News” that wouldn’t be news but for the nutroots P.D.S. conspiracy theories that won’t die.

NYPost:

The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin’s five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

The official family statement on the McCain website:

“We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.

“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”

What will the bottom-feeders do next? Investigate their dating history? Hound them during their pre-natal visits a la Alan Colmes?

***

We know what Obama and company think she should have done. Remember?

“Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old,” he said. “I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.

One ticket sees this as a blessing. The other sees it as a curse. Could the core differences between the two be any starker?

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Ed Morrissey shares his experience: “We have walked in the Palins’ shoes.”

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  1. #301
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    I just don’t understand why invite this type of controversy and why Palin would subject her family to this.

    As was stated earlier, they are able to make their own difficult decisions, much like you are able to make yours.

    Let’s give the Palin family the benefit of the doubt. Do you honestly think her family didn’t have any input on the decision?

  2. #302
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm, Bill Grant said:

    ” Now leave her alone.”

    It isn’t going to be that easy. I’m afraid.

  3. #303
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm, hayroller15 said:

    Me and my wife had a baby at 17, that was 21 years ago. Now he is in college about to graduate. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. You north east liberals piss me off. So what is the perfect age for you liberals to have a baby. I see people thirty years old that are disasters as parents. I suspect that the way she was raised that her and her husband and new baby will have a great life. I didn’t turn out so bad either, money in the bank and 5000 acres. Oh by the way, my other son was homeschooled and also now in college at 17.

    All that needs to be remembered Hayroller is that ALL on the left see no problem with a baby outside the womb, having a scissors jammed into the back of its head, having its brains sucked out and being thrown away like a piece of trash.

    …are the same ones now who are oh-so-concerned over a young woman who is pregnant and has decided to keep the baby.

    Every single one on the left supports the above practice, shown by their support of Obama who voted three times to allow the practice to continue.

  4. #304
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:48 pm, PatriotRider said:

    Donut44 said:I just don’t understand why invite this type of controversy and why Palin would subject her family to this.

    Not to sound too idealistic but perhaps for the greater common good and from a servant’s heart she feels the sacrifice is worth it.

  5. #305
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm, Donut44 said:

    Let’s give the Palin family the benefit of the doubt. Do you honestly think her family didn’t have any input on the decision?

    I am not sure any of us can fathom the true measure of the MSM’s hatred and contempt for republicans and anything that they can turn into a “christian right” hypocracy. Sure, we see it and we think we can be prepared, but I am not sure we can. So, yes, I do believe she consulted with her family and I do hope they are shielded from this as much as possible.

    I don’t dispute they are grown ups and can make their own decisions. However, the presidency is not exactly a do what ever makes you feel good type of position. I am just not real sure this was the best move for the party, but again, I am wrong often and hopefully will be here as well.

  6. #306
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm, Silkyinfamous said:

    The majority of teenagers who do have abortions are poor and without a responsible partner.I don’t believe that when a woman has an abortion she feels good about it. I believe it is a lifetime of pain and what if’s.

    Have you seen Barack Obama go after Bristol? No. He told the press to shut up and I am sure he means it. Attacking Obama after his message like that is petty and becoming quite sad on what the press can go after him for.

    Time for y’all to leave this story alone too.

  7. #307
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 3:21 pm, BemusedLib said:

    Palin is the successful governor of a small state whose budget is 80% funded by oil royalties. She has no experience at all with issues and ideas beyond the far-flung borders of Alaska, and it shows in the way that she’s presented not as a competent leader, but as shorthand for the same old conservative ideals that even I can name and a sop to women whom McCain desperately needs. She ain’t ready for prime time.

    Small state, big oil and far flung.

    I would take her over the lop-eared dweeb who would meet with any number of our enemies unconditionally.

    I bet she also knows how many states there are in the union, as opposed to many on the left that think Alaska is a small state.

  8. #308
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm, liberty3 said:

    The dialogue about Bristol Palin will pass, but the contrast between Palin and Obama regarding the “problem” – according to Obama – should remain part of the political discussion. Obama’s statement is a perfect example of the left’s dislike for life – beginning it or ending it.

    BTW, where is Obama’s grandmother? Why haven’t we heard from her or see her or any other of his relatives at the Dem’s convention? Betcha Grandma has a lot to say—negative probably—wonder where he put her!!!

  9. #309
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm, flmom said:

    Donut

    Maybe John McCain felt she was the best person for the job and that the fact her daughter is pregnant wouldn’t be an issue from that standpoint.
    In my view, it doesn’t diminish Sarah Palin, it just makes her even more human.

  10. #310
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm, love2rumba said:

    Obama’s experience trumps Miss Congeniality’s by a long shot. But, since this was a major arrow in McCain’s quiver, I am happy to see it taken off the table.

    That’s a crock of sh$t, Bemused Lib The Presidency is an executive position, not a legislative position.

    Obama even as a Senator has not put out one piece of his own legislation; his appeal has been vibrant only in regards to see how many different things he can be to different people, and for those people never being able to see the real Obama. That strategy has not panned out for Obama as even you can see.

    Sarah Palin has been an effective uncorrupt governor from the git go. I’d rather have someone that effective that early, than one who has been in so long they should have been removed eons ago. This gives Palin a selling point over even McCain himself-she knows how to run the executive branch already.

  11. #311
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:07 pm, Sidana said:

    If the KOS and its ilk don’t leave conservative children alone they are going to end up either beaten to a pulp or their families will be “fair game.”

    No. We Can’t do to their children what they continually do to Conservative leaders children.

    That is not somewhere that we need to go. As frustrating as this is, that is never a real option.

    The problem is.. that for some reason Liberals see having high standards and values as equating never making a mistake. It doesn’t. We all do.

    The real hypocrites demanding perfection in imperfect men and women ARE liberals.

    There is plenty of room for forgiveness and better actions in our group. Especially toward people’s children.

  12. #312
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm, Silkyinfamous said:

    liberty3 said:
    Obama’s statement is a perfect example of the left’s dislike for life – beginning it or ending it.

    Sometimes I just don’t understand. How does given someone a right to have an abortion make a whole group of people blood thristy murderers. Seriously, if you’re so against unnecessary murders, why don’t you ban guns, cigarettes, and alcohol. Oh thats right. You’re the party of free enterprise and limited government involvement. So do this, anything that has been known to cause someone harm or what would cause a pre-mature death, ban it.

    You won’t.
    You can’t.

    Just like you can never stop a women’s Choice to Choose.

  13. #313
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm, Sidana said:

    Obama’s experience trumps Miss Congeniality’s by a long shot.

    Please, enlighten me. What are his qualifications again?

    I guess some time at Harvard, but that didn’t mean much in president Bush’s case for you to respect him.. so Harvard point out the door.

    He was a lawyer, but as I understand it, performed at a sub-par level, writing books about himself, and not the briefs he should have been turning in.

    Someone decided I think a few years ago that he should make this path to the presidency, seeing the country ripe for strife in the wake of Hillary Clinton.

    So they managed to get rid of ALL of his opponents in his first election. Not a precisely “illegal” way of doing things, but definitely made him appear more cowardly in my eyes.

    Then he became a junior senator. What has he really don’t since then? Run for president. and NOT THE WORK he was elected for. Ever.

    Soo.. he hasn’t really accomplished anything of worth that I can see other than being a black man running for office.

    If that is what you are holding up, I got a woman with time making EXECUTIVE decisions.

    Even your VP choice doesn’t have that.

  14. #314
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm, love2rumba said:

    Moreover lets do a little historical examination here:

    Hypothesis: Given the choice between an individual who has served (honorably) as a US Senator (e.g. MCCain, Biden and Obama) vs. someone who served (honorably) as a State Governor (e.g. Palin), the historical evidence for great decisive leadership in the Oval Office is slanted toward the person who served (honorably) as a state Governor in the 20th Century.

    Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan
    are commonly referred to for decisive executive excellence whether one agrees with their policies or not…the only serious aberrrations to this were Jimmy Carter(naive as heck, which is always possible) and Bill Clinton (very crooked).

    Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Baines Johnson were all US Seantors and at best mediocre to poor leaders when the crap hit the fan (re: Korea, Bay of Pigs, and Vietnam respectively).

    The fact that the McCain-Palin ticket has executive experience between them, and the Obama-Biden ticket is composed of two (crooked) US Senators only and devoid of executive experience, favors the McCain-Palin ticket

  15. #315
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm, DesertLover said:

    Bemused Lib

    To repeat myself … Alaska is bordered by Russia (53 miles across the Bering Straits) and Canada … The new Pipeline she negotiated comes across Canada … so you think that happened without talking and negotiating with the country of Canada? … is that not a foreign policy negotiation? … any Alaskan border issue is basically a foreign policy issue …

  16. #316
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm, love2rumba said:

    Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan

    All the above served in a Governor’s Mansion before becoming President…BTW

  17. #317
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm, Duke of Pronia said:

    Michelle (or anyone else who knows), is there an e-mail addy we can send letters of support to Mrs. Palin? I am going to go to Mr. McCain’s website and send him an e-mail supporting his choice for VP, but I think it would be helpful for Mrs. Palin to know that, even in the midst of the tempest, she has a lot of support among the grass roots. If this has been posted upthread, I apologize, but I am just getting in from work. Thanks.

  18. #318
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm, navywife91 said:

    Like I said before, we need a troll filter. I’m so glad that nero has been dismissed…finally. I am also going to commend Obama for his statement about Bristol Palin, but he cannot lump his wife into that “off limits” area. When Brisol makes speeches and gets involved in the campaign, like Michelle O., maybe I’ll change my mind.

  19. #319
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm, JamieD said:

    Very good point Desertlover. I had not even considered the negotiations that must have taken place when implementing the gas pipeline.

    Executive Experience trumps 2 legislators any day.

  20. #320
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm, navywife91 said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm, DesertLover said:
    Bemused Lib

    To repeat myself … Alaska is bordered by Russia (53 miles across the Bering Straits) and Canada … The new Pipeline she negotiated comes across Canada … so you think that happened without talking and negotiating with the country of Canada? … is that not a foreign policy negotiation? … any Alaskan border issue is basically a foreign policy issue …

    Desertlover meet brick wall.

    BTW Blib: I got your message up there. Although I think the comments about names wasn’t the most intelligent way to make an argument, I don’t know his heart and therefore cannot call him a racist. I’ve heard plenty of black and hispanic comedians make fun of “creative” names and I don’t think they’re racist or self-loathing types. You need to be careful about calling people racist because it’s like crying wolf. When a real one comes around (and there are lots in many different colors), your credibility might be diminished.

  21. #321
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm, tettes said:

    #275 – the contents of your post do not match up with the reporting:

    1) Obama was ahead in the polls before his democratic opponent bowed out in 2004. You said he was behind.

    2) The court records were not “mysteriously” released. Media in Chicago sued to have the records revealed, and the Ryan family did not appeal when a judge agreed.

    3) Obama was “elected” but didn’t “win” the seat?!? I think I know what you mean, but it makes no sense, especially considering the accusations you make to back your point are apparently not based in fact.

    All of the reporting on this issue is right here, but I have a feeling many of you will choose to believe whatever suits you:

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/25/il.ryan/

  22. #322
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:30 pm, navywife91 said:

    All the above served in a Governor’s Mansion before becoming President…BTW

    I’m beginning to wonder why some of us here are trying so hard to convince the libs that infested this thread (with a couple exceptions). Facts don’t matter. That’s why we have people talking about killing animals and the Pledge of Allegiance instead of the topic listed.

  23. #323
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm, sandyb said:

    #36On September 1st, 2008 at 1:39 pm, Jim M. said:
    Gee, wasn’t The One conceived out of wedlock? Did I get that wrong?

    Game, set, match.

    Re The One’s father’s babymaking habits, Rush said he makes Bill Clinton’s dad look conservative. I believe the Obama offspring count (Barack and his Hutpeep’s bros and sis’s) is up to eight, but they’re still looking.

  24. #324
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:49 pm, BemusedLib said:
    Obama’s experience trumps Miss Congeniality’s by a long shot.

    Yooo betcha Lib! While Governor Palin was stuck in Alaska running the largest state in the country, B. Hussein Obama was… was… um… ‘gaining experience’.

    When it comes to avoiding responsibility Obama’s your man!

    As an Illinois state senator B. Hussain Obama voted “present” effectively sidestepping the issue, nearly 130 times.

    Unfortunately the U.S. Senate doesn’t have the option to vote “Present” so he just avoided voting all together. By November 2007 he amassed an enviable percentage of actually voting 20% of the time.

    He even canceled a campaign trip to Rock Hill SC so he could return to Washington and cast “crucial votes in the Senate concerning the ongoing war in Iraq” and still didn’t cast a vote.

    What a guy! You can’t buy experience like that, unless you’re George Soros

  25. #325
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pm, Rob said:

    Soo.. he hasn’t really accomplished anything of worth that I can see other than being a black man running for office.

    THAT is very true. But Palin is where she is because she is a woman.

    Both as good a reason as any I guess to successful in politics.

    Being a white male with experience and a great war record helped Duke Cunningham go far….

  26. #326
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm, JamieD said:

    All of the reporting on this issue is right here, but I have a feeling many of you will choose to believe whatever suits you:

    How presumptuous! From what I’ve seen on this thread (you know, ACTUAL data), most would welcome the presentation of facts.

    However, that said, Obama did get ALL of his competition disqualified from the race by objecting to their petition signatures. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but that’s not “winning” because the voters did not get to decide. The only competition came AFTER Obama was unopposed and this came from an outsider. I hardly call that winning, although technically he did win.

  27. #327
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:51 pm, orlandocajun said:

    “The Palin family values the sanctity of life. They talk the talk and walk the walk. It is driving the Left absolutely insane beyond the farthest reaches of unhingedness.”

    What’s the bad news?

  28. #328
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:37 pm, BemusedLib said:

    Queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef…Note to NavyWife91: Now I’m calling someone racist. Not because he doesn’t support Obama, but because he is.

    Who ya talkin’ about Befuddled?

  29. #329
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm, Omu said:

    As an Illinois state senator B. Hussain Obama voted “present” effectively sidestepping the issue, nearly 130 times.

    Unfortunately the U.S. Senate doesn’t have the option to vote “Present” so he just avoided voting all together. By November 2007 he amassed an enviable percentage of actually voting 20% of the time.

    He even canceled a campaign trip to Rock Hill SC so he could return to Washington and cast “crucial votes in the Senate concerning the ongoing war in Iraq” and still didn’t cast a vote.

    I’m guessing you can’t back any of this up?

    In any case, Palin wasn’t even governor of Alaska when McCain started his campaign for the nomination. She wasn’t even in office. If you want to class anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-environment opinions as experience then go ahead, but under the typical definition of the word, Obama has much, much more experience than Mrs. Palin does.

  30. #330
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:57 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Abortion and Marxists

    Where are all the Kos Democrats Communists now?

    Marxists are the most rabidly pro-Abortion members of the Democrat[ic Socialist] Party.

    I’ve been having an interesting “conversation” with a Marxist in the comments of one of my posts.

    This is most certainly a battle of good vs. evil.

    And good will win this November.

  31. #331
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm, Omu said:
    If you want to class anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-environment opinions as experience then go ahead, but under the typical definition of the word, Obama has much, much more experience than Mrs. Palin does.

    Please, at least try to make a coherent argument to support your position.

  32. #332
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm, sandyb said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:14 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Bristol making a mistake in judgement doesn’t equate to an abandonment of principle for conservatives. I thought you were smarter than that.

    Just for fun, using your rationale, Obama can’t EVER argue:

    -Against terrorism
    -Against shady political/financial dealings
    -Against racism
    -Against a lack of experience
    -Against lying
    -Against personal attacks

    The list goes on and on.

    Speaking of The One and terrorism, heard Jon Voight (at the RNC) on Cavuto earlier and he said there’s way more to come about the Ayers/o-BAMMA relationship now that the Annenberg papers are coming out. Wonder if he knows something we don’t? I’ll bet most of the truly damaging stuff was shredded long before reporters got to see it.

  33. #333
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:08 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    A Random Idiot said:

    Obama has much, much more experience than Mrs. Palin does.

    Then why does he never talk about his experience?

  34. #334
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm, sandyb said:
    Speaking of The One and terrorism, heard Jon Voight (at the RNC) on Cavuto earlier and he said there’s way more to come about the Ayers/o-BAMMA relationship now that the Annenberg papers are coming out. Wonder if he knows something we don’t? I’ll bet most of the truly damaging stuff was shredded long before reporters got to see it.

    Interesting. It’s a shame that Obama’s established association with a known, unrepentant terrorist isn’t seen as damaging based on extant facts.

    If a conservative counted domestic terrorists among his/her friends and benefactors, it would (conveniently) be a bad thing.

  35. #335
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm, rooster said:

    So, let me get this straight. Teen pregnancy is good if the teen is of means, bad if she isn’t? Interesting take. I stand by the idea that teen pregnancy is a problem no matter what the class of the impregnated girl.

    Since the 60′s, and the lefts score on enslaving the typical black community by providing my money for their care by having multiple babies before graduation is a problem with people of little or no means to care for a child. Generations have learned and been taught to abuse the taxpayers of America, with the help of the democrap party. So, in this sense, yes it is much less of a burden for a family with the means to support a child, than for one from the south side of chi-town or detroit who may think of it as a way of making a living without working!
    But, you are absolutely right that it is a shame that it is becoming so normal for us to watch kids have babies, regardless of income.
    If you are offended nyk….den bin ich aber froh!

  36. #336
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:12 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:02 pm, atheling said:
    Where is 30 Pieces?

    I’ve noticed that she hasn’t been around since the announcement of McCain’s VP.

    Just wondering.

    Hi atheling,

    I’m around… stalking essentially. BTW, loving the Palin pick.

  37. #337
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:12 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    The Same Idiot said:

    She wasn’t even in office.

    Wrong as two boys kissing. Sarah Palin was the incumbent mayor of Wasilla.

    You see, Sarah Palin was an elected community leader. B. Who’s He Obama was an unelected community agitator–a shakedown artist.

  38. #338
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:26 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm, Omu said:

    I’m guessing you can’t back any of this up?

    In any case, Palin wasn’t even governor of Alaska when McCain started his campaign for the nomination. She wasn’t even in office.

    B. Hussein Obama’s voting record (or lack there of) is a matter of public embarrassment record. Look it up.

    By the way, Governor Pain was sworn in to run the largest state in the union and become the commander in chief of the only National Guard unit on permanent active duty on December 4, 2006.

    John McCain announced his run for President on April 25, 2007

    Please go be wrong somewhere else.

    ktnxbye

  39. #339
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm, Ron said:

    Unbelievable that Bristol’s pregnancy is being used as ammunition for sex education, and aimed explicitly at her mother’s opposition to all but abstinence education. See, they say. Abstinence doesn’t work. Guess what? Neither do condoms (infrequently used by teen-agers and not infallible), and neither does free and easy abortion (a murder, not a choice.)

  40. #340
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    evangalical’s and neo’s since the day they had Regan pick Bush sr.

    AlohaGuy said: Is it ok if we don’t take you seriously?

    You should take me seriously we have an 8.5 trillion deficit. Is that the republican platform. Are you saying that is conservative? I hope not. You watch the dollar crash when this election is over.

    This thread is about Bristol Palin and leaving her alone, and you’re babbling about “evangalical’s” and “Regan” and the deficit. In answer to your question, no, a huge deficit isn’t isn’t conservative, neither is it the topic.

  41. #341
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    LGM

    OK let’s not condemn Sarah Palin’s daughter, who didn’t choose to be in the public eye. At the same time, maybe we can refrain from condemning those who get aids by making essentially the same mistake.

    I don’t think we should condemn anyone, LGM. Mercy and generosity are much more important.

  42. #342
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm, love2rumba said:

    That’s why we have people talking about killing animals and the Pledge of Allegiance instead of the topic listed.

    True navywife91, I just enjoy seeing libs writhe in their own untruths. I find it amusing.

  43. #343
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, Omu said:

    Wrong as two boys kissing.

    Homophobic bigotry on a right wing blog? Never!

    Sarah Palin was the incumbent mayor of Wasilla.

    Wasilla is a tiny, tiny town. It’s not even in the top 100 towns in Alaska and that’s saying something. Do you honestly think being the mayor of a town in Alaska with barely 6000 inhabitants is enough experience to be VP? No, you don’t. But because Palin hates gays and the environment and because she’s anti-choice, you’re going to defend her anyway.

    Barack Obama was a lawyer for many years before he gave up his well-paid job to become a community organiser. Then he spent 8 years in the Illinois senate, and was then elected to the Senate in Washington where he pushed for greater responsibility in the spending of federal funds. He also made official visits to the middle east and Europe and helped create legislation relating to nuclear terrorism and the environment. It’s obvious to anyone that Obama has much, much more experience. But because he doesn’t hate gay people, doesn’t scorn the poor and refuses to condemn women who seek to choose, you’re going to attack him.

    What a sorry lot you are!

  44. #344
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm, Dan Lee said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:11 pm, dakine said:

    Dan Lee, other than having a highly unoriginal and derivative blog, not sure what you problem is brah.

    I bet my blog gets a lot more readers than your does.. Well that is if you had the smarts to actually run one.. When you have a blog of your own then you can possibly come back & talk about it with some authority.

    As of right now you do very little to add to the value of the country or the political process. Being a troll doesn’t really count..

  45. #345
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:02 pm, JamieD said:

    OMU:

    Prove that “Obama was a lawyer for many years before he gave up his well-paid job to become a community organiser organizer”.

    Although he has a law degree, I am not aware that he spent anytime other than a summer job as a researcher, or as Obama’s book puts it: in the “Secretarial pool”.

    And as far as the highly paid job is concerned, his employer is quoted as saying he was paid $10,000 plus a free $2,000 car.

  46. #346
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:04 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Homophobic bigotry on a right wing blog? Never!

    Simply because you agree with something doesn’t necessarily make it right. By the by, do you even know what homophobia means.

    Wasilla is a tiny, tiny town. It’s not even in the top 100 towns in Alaska and that’s saying something. Do you honestly think being the mayor of a town in Alaska with barely 6000 inhabitants is enough experience to be VP? No, you don’t. But because Palin hates gays and the environment and because she’s anti-choice, you’re going to defend her anyway.

    You equate disagreeing with something as being hateful. My brother is gay and I love him with all of my heart, nice try though. Additionally, you libs really need to leave the “experience” factor out of the equation… it will not work out to the benefit of The Chosen One.

  47. #347
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:06 pm, Dan Lee said:

    PBoilermaker wrote in #159:

    Tell me, dakine, if you only believe in zero defect arguments, how do you function in everyday life? I can’t think of any liberal argument that is zero defect.

    The way he functions in everyday life is clearly to point out everyone elses faults on message boards with zero tolerence, while overlooking his own.

    When you live is a house with no mirrors, it’s easier to miss your own faults.. Maybe he has none?

  48. #348
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:07 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    But because Palin hates gays and the environment

    Really? She said that? I don’t remember that part.

  49. #349
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:10 pm, JamieD said:

    I’m going to have to start ignoring these trolls who make wild accusations without any facts. Its a true waste of effort.

  50. #350
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:12 pm, Omu said:

    PKAmmoTroop wrote:

    B. Hussein Obama’s voting record (or lack there of) is a matter of public embarrassment record. Look it up.

    The burden of proof is on you.

    Besides, are you trying to tell me that McCain’s record is better? Hah!

    By the way, Governor Pain was sworn in to run the largest state in the union and become the commander in chief of the only National Guard unit on permanent active duty on December 4, 2006.

    John McCain announced his run for President on April 25, 2007

    Please go be wrong somewhere else.

    McCain started his campaign on November 13, 2006.

    Palin was sworn in as governor on December 4, 2006.

    So, I guess it’s you that’s wrong, huh?

  51. #351
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:13 pm, civiliantrooper said:

    I can relate with Ed. My oldest was 20 when she had my Grand Daughter. She took a lot of heat from some of the Family and friends. But she stood by her morals and did what she knew was right. There was never a doubt in her mind. I have never been so proud of anything in my life. (My 10 year old telling me Obama scares her comes in a close 2nd) I am now blessed with two beautiful Grand Children. And my Daughter has a wonderful Family.
    As I sit here at the keyboard with my 8 month old Daughter Elizibeth I get sick at the thought of someone snuffing out something so amazing. The logic is pathetic. Just my opinion.

  52. #352
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:15 pm, BrianNY said:

    It was tough to decipher (even after your three tries) but it appears that you are trying to say that Obama has more “legislative experience” as one of many within a deliberative body such as a senate.

    Ok, I’ll give you that.

    But how does that diminish the fact that Governor Palin has more “executive experience,” (eg. governor, mayor, commissioner, etc.) than Obama?

    You haven’t proven your case with me yet.

  53. #353
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, Omu squealed:

    Wasilla is a tiny, tiny town. It’s not even in the top 100 towns in Alaska and that’s saying something.

    Ever wonder where all those 650,000 Alaskans live? Yes, OMG. They’re asking you!

    This list shows the 2000 census of all Alaska cities, villages and census defined places (CDP).

    L ocality Population
    1 Anchorage municipality 260,283
    2 Juneau city and borough 30,711
    3 Fairbanks city 30,224
    4 College CDP 11,402
    5 Sitka city and borough 8,835
    6 Ketchikan city 7,922
    7 Knik-Fairview CDP 7,049
    8 Kenai city 6,942
    9 Lakes CDP 6,706
    10 Kodiak city 6,334
    11 Kalifornsky CDP 5,846
    12 Bethel city 5,471
    13 Wasilla city 5,469

    You might want to run this by your buddy, lgm for verification, but 13 is less than 100. So a town that ranks thirteenth in a category also ranks in the top 100.

    Your intellectual laziness disqualifies you from discussing any non-gay topics. You might as well grab Lemmiwinks and Mr. Slave and head on down to your basement.

    Dolt.

  54. #354
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm, Omu said:

    30 pcs of silver wrote:

    By the by, do you even know what homophobia means.

    Yes, I do. And if you’re someone who needs to actively and casually insult gay people, then you do have an irrational fear.

    Simply because you agree with something doesn’t necessarily make it right.

    “Agree” with it? What’s there to agree with? Two people love each, and want the state to recognise that, just as it recognises everyone else. They happen to be of the same gender. So what? Honestly, grow up already.

    You equate disagreeing with something as being hateful. My brother is gay and I love him with all of my heart, nice try though

    Hate to break it to you, but wishing the denial of rights to your brother, and to gays everywhere, is absolutely a very, very hateful thing.

  55. #355
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm, navywife91 said:

    But because Palin hates gays and the environment and because she’s anti-choice, you’re going to defend her anyway.

    Please show us the proof that Palin said these things in bold.

    The burden of proof is on you.

    Why, yes it is.

  56. #356
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:23 pm, NC BLUE said:

    I am pumped about Sarah Palin pick. I bet everyone on this thread has a son or daughter that did something oppposite of what you taught them–some are pregnant, some are in jail, some are dead, others are where you don’t want them to be. Palins daughter did something opposite of her parents teachings. They love and support her and she is now accepting responsibility for her actions. I always told my boys I may be very upset with their choices, but we would always love them. The vile left is just that–vile.

  57. #357
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, Omu gushed:

    Then he spent 8 years in the Illinois senate, and was then elected to the Senate in Washington where he pushed for greater responsibility in the spending of federal funds.

    Yeah. That worked out really well. :lol:

  58. #358
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Omu said:

    Die Hippie, Die wrote:

    Your intellectual laziness disqualifies you from discussing any non-gay topics. You might as well grab Lemmiwinks and Mr. Slave and head on down to your basement.

    Dolt.

    You’re pathetic. Seriously, how old are you? Does it make you feel more secure, more masculine in yourself to belittle gay people like that?

    For the record, I’m not actually gay. But I care little if that’s what you want to think.

    Oh, and btw, if you can’t even back up your stats with a source, what are they worth?

  59. #359
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, Omu said:

    Even your conservative buddies at NRO are telling you to grow up, and face the facts about Obama:

    Can we conservatives please stop kidding ourselves about Barack Obama’s “qualifications”? Yes, if I had been a Democratic donor back in 2006, I’d sure worry about whether Barack Obama had what it took to be president. That was before he took on the toughest political operation in America, before he beat Bill and Hillary Clinton, before he won 18 million primary votes.

    Obama’s nomination was not handed to him. He fought hard for it and won against the odds. “Qualifications” predict achievement. Once you have achieved, it doesn’t matter what your qualifications are. Who cares whether the guy who built a big company from nothing didn’t have much of a resume when he started? But if you are applying to run a big company built by somebody else, the resume matters …

    The worst mistake in any fight is to under-estimate your opponent’s abilities. Look what happened to the people who under-estimated Reagan. If conservatives are to have any hope in the coming weeks, we should wake up to the fact that we face in Barack Obama a formidable man, who appeals to something important and deep in the American electorate. He’s not a superman, he has vulnerabilities, he can be beaten. But he won’t be beaten until we who are trying to beat him understand why and how he has come so far

    - David Frum

  60. #360
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, edelweiss said:

    Palin is a total disgrace to this country. It’s so SWEET: that clueless “Christian conservative” lady preaching abstinence cannot even educate her own daughter much less have solutions to the problems of our country. Christian conservative wingnuts should not be getting in the way and affecting policies which only support abstinence because clearly it does not work, that’s why teenage girls (including Bristol Palin) must have unlimited access to birth control including ABORTION. Like most Republicans, that lady is a joke and should NEVER become VP.

    http://www.pregnantteenhelp.org/articles59.html

  61. #361
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, navywife91 said:

    Oh, and btw, if you can’t even back up your stats with a source, what are they worth?

    Exactly. I’m still waiting, omu.

  62. #362
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm, navywife91 said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, edelweiss said:
    Palin is a total disgrace to this country. It’s so SWEET: that clueless “Christian conservative” lady preaching abstinence cannot even educate her own daughter much less have solutions to the problems of our country. Christian conservative wingnuts should not be getting in the way and affecting policies which only support abstinence because clearly it does not work, that’s why teenage girls (including Bristol Palin) must have unlimited access to birth control including ABORTION. Like most Republicans, that lady is a joke and should NEVER become VP.

    Yes, an abortion would solve all the problems, wouldn’t it?

  63. #363
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm, Omu said:

    Navywife91 wrote:

    Please show us the proof that Palin said these things in bold.

    She wants to destroy Alaska’s wildlife and environment to drill for more oil. She vehemently opposes any rights for gays at all, and only signed a measly benefits bill into law because the Supreme Court of Alaska forced her too.

    Ergo: she hates gays, she cares little for the environment.

  64. #364
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm, JamieD said:

    Omu:

    Now I understand your extreme comments and accusations that have no fact.

    You have not learned the concept of Freedom. You do not have the freedom to destroy my rights, just as I do not have the freedom to destroy your rights.

    Trying to change marriage to fit your definition is an encroachment on my rights.

    The key word here is change. No one denies gays the right to see loved ones in the hospital or deny them legal agreements. But to change marriage is forcing your ideals over others ideals. Enjoy your idea of family (IMPOSSIBLE – Gays can’t produce!), but leave my family alone!

    And that is NOT hate, its protecting my freedom!

  65. #365
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Omu said way too defensively:

    For the record, I’m not actually gay.

    For the record. I don’t care whether you’re actually gay, conveniently gay, occasionally gay. I do care that you’re too stupid to discuss issues.

    You bleated “Oh, and btw, if you can’t even back up your stats with a source, what are they worth?”

    Did your ganglia process this: This list shows the 2000 census of all Alaska cities, villages and census defined places (CDP). Do I have to link to Merriam-Webster’s definition of census for your lazy arse?

    Dolt.

  66. #366
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm, Lindsay said:

    I am slow to anger, but I am angry at the hypocritical left-wing moonbats sitting in judgment about the Palin family. These same people worship at the alter of Hollywood’s unwed mothers, and spew venom today to degrade a good family.

    Happily, I think their disgusting Kos crap will increase votes for McCain and Palin. I think that if I am this angry and disgusted, imagine how Sarah Palin feels today. If one of my cubs were insulted like they have insulted her child, the gloves would come off.

    Sarah, show no mercy on these dysfunctional psychos that throw darts behind their keyboards. In other words, “sic ‘em, Sarah.”

    We donated to the McCain/Palin campaign on Friday. I am mad enough, now, that I will do even more: I am going to volunteer and fight for them anyway I can and haven’t done since 2000. I ask all of you MM readers to do the same if you feel the same. This is not an election, it is a battle to prevent the creatures of Kos worldview to spread.

  67. #367
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    edelweiss, if only your mother had unlimited access to ABORTION, what a wonderful world this would be!

  68. #368
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm, navywife91 said:

    She wants to destroy Alaska’s wildlife and environment to drill for more oil. She vehemently opposes any rights for gays at all, and only signed a measly benefits bill into law because the Supreme Court of Alaska forced her too.

    Ergo: she hates gays, she cares little for the environment.

    How is drilling in a teeny, tiny part of ANWR going to destroy the environment? Many people, who are experts in this field, (unlike you and I) completely disagree. For whatever reason she signed this benefits bill, she signed it. Somehow you still say she hates gays. Why do you use the word “hate” so much. Just because people disagree, it doesn’t mean they hate. Do you hate conservatives or Republicans?

  69. #369
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:40 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    I guess the trolls finished their dinners.

    Stick to the Bristol story.

  70. #370
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:41 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Yes, I do. And if you’re someone who needs to actively and casually insult gay people, then you do have an irrational fear.

    I see. PDS, no… it’s Palinphobia. Nice ring to it, methinks.

    “Agree” with it? What’s there to agree with? Two people love each, and want the state to recognise that, just as it recognises everyone else. They happen to be of the same gender. So what? Honestly, grow up already.

    Okay. I’m now on notice with respect to your intellectual abilities. If I have to explain this to you there really is no point in furthering the discussion.

    Hate to break it to you, but wishing the denial of rights to your brother, and to gays everywhere, is absolutely a very, very hateful thing

    Hate to break it to ya but he has no desire to redefine marriage as between a man and a woman. Therefore, your theory that I would deny him anything rings hollow. Besides, what rights have they been denied?

  71. #371
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:43 pm, Omu said:

    Trying to change marriage to fit your definition is an encroachment on my rights.

    How? How does gay people getting married infringe on your rights in any way? Really, my mind boggles whenever I hear this ridiculous argument.

  72. #372
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:43 pm, JamieD said:

    Experience? Yes, I see that Obama is very capable of running a.. not so good, shark like campaign, but that still does not qualify him to run the country.

    Where is his other management experience?

    His Ayers school reform project spent 5 years and millions of dollars and had 0 (that’s ZERO) impact on the grade results of the schools it was supposed to reform. I say that was failed management experience. So where is the proof of his capability.

    Sorry, I guess we are a little OT here.

  73. #373
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm, navywife91 said:

    Stick to the Bristol story.

    I believe the term is obfuscate. It’s a word they know well. Well, they may not know it, but they do it well.

  74. #374
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:45 pm, joetimek said:

    I try to remember this part of a simple prayer when I feel like slinging mud right back at the fierce leftists: …And if wicked men insult and hate you, all because of me- Blessed, blessed are you.

    Forgive my mood for being religious here, but it also reminds me of this bible passage: http://bible.cc/romans/12-20.htm .

    Let’s all remember that these moonbats aren’t quite in power yet. Thank God.

  75. #375
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm, djj said:

    I am sad to hear that Bristol is expecting a child at the age of 17. It will not be easy for her. But I totally agree with her decision to marry the father and have the baby.

  76. #376
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:43 pm, Omu wailed:

    Really, my mind boggles whenever I hear this ridiculous argument.

    Rilly. Omu’s mind also boggles when counting to 100. Rilly. I think Omu’s little mind boggles a lot. Rilly. It’s in a constant state of boggulation. Rilly. Ridiculouth!

  77. #377
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:48 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm, navywife91 said:
    Stick to the Bristol story.
    I believe the term is obfuscate. It’s a word they know well. Well, they may not know it, but they do it well.

    Somewhere, in some seedy portion of the internet, they got their marching orders:

    -Deny
    -Obfuscate
    -Lie
    -Ad Hominem attack

    The latest batch of trolls are here to generate noise, nothing else. With the recent open registration so close to the conventions, we knew it had to happen sooner or later.

  78. #378
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:50 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    Here are the stats on Palin’s and D’ohbama’s experience.

    Read it and weep–if you’re not already weeping–Ubu, Omu, whatever.

  79. #379
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:52 pm, navywife91 said:

    OT

    Campbell Brown just called Tucker Bounds, “Baby”!!!!! Wow, can you say sexual harassment.

  80. #380
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:53 pm, JamieD said:

    How? How does gay people getting married infringe on your rights in any way? Really, my mind boggles whenever I hear this ridiculous argument.

    Hence you are proving my point. You have no understanding of freedom or the rights of others.

    I will give you the chance to consider…put yourself in the shoes and lifestyle of a “non-gay” couple who are married… and then consider that someone wants to change the meaning of your sacred understanding of marriage to mean something like between a cow and a pig.

    I’ll let you ponder this why I go back to congratulating Palin and her family for taking this adversity in stride, proving the stamina of the conservative spirit!

    McCain/Palin 08′

  81. #381
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:53 pm, navywife91 said:

    The latest batch of trolls are here to generate noise, nothing else. With the recent open registration so close to the conventions, we knew it had to happen sooner or later.

    Which is why we need a troll filter. Then again, they make our side look so good.

  82. #382
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:57 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:53 pm, navywife91 said:
    Which is why we need a troll filter. Then again, they make our side look so good.

    They are an excellent indicator of how good a pick Palin was, though.

    The spike in noise immediately followed it and it hasn’t let up.

  83. #383
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:58 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:53 pm, JamieD said:
    …and then consider that someone wants to change the meaning of your sacred understanding of marriage to mean something like between a cow and a pig.

    It’s much more than that they want to define the definition down, it’s HOW they want to change the definition: judicial fiat.

  84. #384
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:01 pm, Omu said:

    navywife91 wrote:

    How is drilling in a teeny, tiny part of ANWR going to destroy the environment? Many people, who are experts in this field, (unlike you and I) completely disagree.

    And there are many who think we’ve done enough to damage our environment as it is. There’s a reason the ANWR was designated as such.

    For whatever reason she signed this benefits bill, she signed it. Somehow you still say she hates gays. Why do you use the word “hate” so much. Just because people disagree, it doesn’t mean they hate. Do you hate conservatives or Republicans?

    She signed it because she was forced to. She could have refused, and gone to court, and spent thousands of dollars on fees and wasted lots of time only to lose, but instead she chose the easy option and signed the bill through gritted teeth.

    Denying gay people rights is hatred. There is no logical, reasonable cause to deny gayse the rights they deserve, so going ahead and denying these rights anyway is most definitely the result of hatred.

    No, I do not hate Republicans. I agree fundamentally with conservatism. I’m just disappointed that the GOP isn’t really about conservatism any more – it’s all about hating gay and pandering to hateful faux Christians.

  85. #385
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:01 pm, JamieD said:

    It’s much more than that they want to define the definition down, it’s HOW they want to change the definition: judicial fiat.

    Agreed!

    Then again, they make our side look so good.

    Yes they Do!

    Go ‘Cuda

  86. #386
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:03 pm, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    … the phrase is

    “talk the walk, walk the talk”…

    Respectfully, please see this from Common Error in English:

    Aristotle’s followers are said to have discussed philosophy while walking about with him—hence their name: “peripatetics.” I suppose they could be have been said to “walk the talk.”

    For the rest of us, the saying is “if you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk”—a modern version of old sayings like “actions speak louder than words” and “practice what you preach.” Another early form of the expression was “walk it like you talk it.”

    Many people now condense this to “walk the talk,” which makes a sort of sense (act on your speech), but strikes those who are more familiar with the original form as confused.

    Ergo, you are both correct. :)

  87. #387
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:08 pm, Omu said:

    I will give you the chance to consider…put yourself in the shoes and lifestyle of a “non-gay” couple who are married… and then consider that someone wants to change the meaning of your sacred understanding of marriage to mean something like between a cow and a pig.

    Wow – thank you for proving my point. You really don’t have anything even remotely resembling sound or reasonable logic to back up your hideously asinine claim that gay marriage infringes on the freedom of straight people. Nice.

    I am a straight, married man. I don’t need to place myself in those shows, but whatever. And I know for a fact that allowing my gay neighbours to get married is not going to weaken my own marriage (and if it would, the problem would be with my marriage) and if anything, it would strengthen the meaning in that I would feel like I was a part of something that wasn’t being denied to a great many couples for the simple reason that they’re the ‘wrong’ gender.

    Are you seriously comparing the love that a gay male, or female, couple would share to that of a “cow and pig”? Please tell me that was a joke? Please?

  88. #388
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:14 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    This is what happens when the feds start to regulate toilets. Now you have to flush twice if you don’t want an Omu.

    How did it get in here?

  89. #389
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:14 pm, navywife91 said:

    And there are many who think we’ve done enough to damage our environment as it is. There’s a reason the ANWR was designated as such.

    Doesn’t prove she wants to destroy the enviroment, but I guess to you it does.

    She signed it because she was forced to

    .

    If she is such a hate-filled, religious conservative, they could never have forced her to do anything, so that’s bull.

    Denying gay people rights
    is hatred

    I can only speak for myself, but I am not interested in denying any gay person rights. Heck, being on this blog for the time I’ve been on it, I’m going to go out on a limb and say many people here don’t want to deny rights either, but your idea of “rights” is probably different than most. How is marriage a right anyway? Are any gay people you know of not allowed to be gay? Most of the gay people/couples I know are perfectly happy. Your generalizing about a whole group of people is misplaced and accusing those who have religious reasons for not agreeing with the gay lifestyle could be construed as hateful if we use your definition.

  90. #390
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:18 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    I am a straight, married man.

    Hear me roar!

    Hate to break the news, but “wow,” “ridiculous,” “whatever,” “rilly” and “homophobe” are not exactly staples of the “straight, married man” vocabulary.

  91. #391
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:22 pm, JamieD said:

    No, no joke. To me, two completely different species participating in sexual activity is just as abnormal as two of the same gender participating. I feel for these individuals and if thats their choice, I will uphold their choice as long as it doesn’t FORCE the definition of my marriage to change.

    Call it something else because it truly is “someone completely different”.

    So when someone asks me if I’m married, they do not have to ask the second question of “what gender is your spouse”?

    Beyond that, the method is what is most important. Judges do not make laws, but when it comes to this issue, they seem to think they can. Sorry, in a democracy, not everyone gets their way and no one has the right to FORCE others to change their definition of marriage. Again..call it something else please.

  92. #392
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:23 pm, Seabecker said:

    I was listening to the local ABC radio affiliate this morning (KOMO in Seattle) when they interrupted for a special announcement.

    The announcement specifically said that Bristol was pregnant “again”!

    Why on earth would the MSM use the term “again”, unless they were listening to and bought into the lies that the lefty loons have been spewing the past few days?

  93. #393
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:26 pm, JamieD said:

    Sorry, that should read:
    someoneSomething completely different”.

  94. #394
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:26 pm, BernVerdnardo said:

    Omu I hate to pile on but everone has the right to marry in this country. Nobody is being denied anything, you need to settle down (and return to topic).

  95. #395
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:27 pm, JamieD said:

    Yes, I noticed on ABC they announced the story as a “Bomb shell”.

    Hardly.

  96. #396
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, dakine said:

    JamieD, me thinks thee doth protest too much. Guessing latent tendencies. BTW, you are a classic homophobe.

  97. #397
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:32 pm, JamieD said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, dakine said: ?

    Sorry, does not warrant a comment.

    Back to topic please.

  98. #398
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:34 pm, Rob said:

    Denying gay people rights is hatred

    The argument of the ignorant.

    Homosexuals have the EXACT same rights as everyone else. Any homosexual man can marry a woman and any homosexual woman can marry a man.

    What Homosexuals want is EXTRA or new rights.

    Personally, I don’t care if they marry each other or sheep.

    I don’t care about this issue at all.

    However, homosexuals DO have all the rights that the rest of us do…

    Although I dont think that Palin’s sinful daugher has anthing to do with homosexuals……

    1 Corinthians 6:18-20 & 1 Corinthians 7:1-2

    “Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

  99. #399
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:36 pm, Dan Lee said:

    It doesn’t matter what the trolls say..

    After all the hoopla & the SuperBarack Halftime show that the Dems pus on, his Convention bounce was so easily erased by our girl just by puting her on the ticket. Once people get to know how capable she is, & once she gets into through a few debates with a sauced Biden, it will be all over for Obama..

    We will win, & they will weep, plain & simple.

  100. #400
    On September 1st, 2008 at 8:37 pm, dakine said:

    Your take at comment #191 makes you a jackass Jamie. Now, back on topic.

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