Bristol Palin chooses life. Now leave her alone.

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 1, 2008 01:22 PM


Photoshop: David Lunde

The Palin family values the sanctity of life. They talk the talk and walk the walk. It is driving the Left absolutely insane beyond the farthest reaches of unhingedness. Now comes the news that 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant. “News” that wouldn’t be news but for the nutroots P.D.S. conspiracy theories that won’t die.

NYPost:

The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin’s five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

The official family statement on the McCain website:

“We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.

“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”

What will the bottom-feeders do next? Investigate their dating history? Hound them during their pre-natal visits a la Alan Colmes?

***

We know what Obama and company think she should have done. Remember?

“Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old,” he said. “I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.

One ticket sees this as a blessing. The other sees it as a curse. Could the core differences between the two be any starker?

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Ed Morrissey shares his experience: “We have walked in the Palins’ shoes.”

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  1. #432327
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:01 pm, athena said:

    I am not in favor of abstinence only sex-ed, but I really don’t think that is an issue here. This is at the core an anecdotal story about one girl’s mistake that she is instead turning into a blessing by choosing life.

    I admire McCain more and more. He knew about this and still chose the best candidate for the country, and I do not think he will be throwing Palin under the bus any time soon.

  2. #432333
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:06 pm, Donut44 said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 3:39 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    think this is good for McCain and good for Palin and her family.

    You must not be reading the same things I am reading. Who here said a 17 year old getting pregnant out of wedlock is admirable?

    I see a lot of people praising Bristol’s (and her family’s) handling of the situation, but none that take pride in the fact that it happened in the first place.

    Boilermaker, when I said I don’t see how this is good for McCain or the family, I didn’t mean her daughter’s decision(s).

    I mean I don’t see how making Palin the VP candidate can be good for McCain or Palin and her family. Palin is going to be ripped apart and worst of all, so will her family. I predict in a week and a half, she will no longer be the VP.

    As for not thinking McCain will throw people under the bus, he has done it repeatedly in this campaign so far and will continue. Phil Gramm was the latest, but they have thrown several state GOPs under the bus, a few prominent staffers and I am sure more.

  3. #432334
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    DesertLover…

    Thanks! I did forget about that. Funny how those “sealed” records mysteriously become unsealed, huh?

    I recall right before the 2000 presidential election same thing happened to GWB when his “sealed” records on his drunk driving issue were mysteriously unsealed the weekend before the election by a Democrat-appointed “judge”.

    No politics were involved.

    Yeah, thanks for the reminder.

  4. #432339
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:09 pm, PatriotRider said:

    Donut44 said:

    So, you want to compare resumes?

    First let let me tell you that my impression from reading your post is that Palin shouldn’t have been the “pick”. Why? Because her daughter isn’t pure as the driven snow? So that makes Sarah a poor parent and therefore not an example of true conservatism? Tell me what Palin has done to prove she is a closet liberal. You can’t. Nobody is perfect (so no, I did not expect you to walk across the Gulf and extinguish Gustav.)but I believe choosing Palin as a running mate was a stunning and brilliant move.

    And so, I’m a 50+ born again Christian former United States Marine biker that owns guns, hunts, works for a living, thinks on my own, husband to one wife for 29 years, father to two grown children with one grandson and loves to eat donuts for breakfast.

  5. #432341
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:10 pm, Donut44 said:

    Name a VP candidate pick who wouldn’t have been controversial… who wouldn’t have been lib-fodder

    No doubt Jet, you are right, but again, I can’t see how an issue like this is something the GOP needs or wants and certainly not an issue that is good for conservatives. Can I be wrong? Of course. My wife seems to think that this can be a strong selling point (and she is obviously more right then me some most of the time).

    As for torpedoing McCain, he can do that himself well enough and just because someone attacks McCain, it does not make them a liberal. It might not make them a republican, but certainly not a liberal. I can not, nor will I try to speak for anyone on this board, but I do know I am far more conservative than McCain is or wants to be.

  6. #432344
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:12 pm, PatriotRider said:

    BTW Donut, Sarah Palin and John McCain are big girls and boys and can decide how this is good for their families. Your job is to choose whether or not you want them to lead this country. If you don’t like this ticket I can assure you you wont like the Socialist version.

  7. #432345
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm, athena said:

    You really predict she will step down?

    I imagine people will lose interest in this fairly quickly… it’s not terribly interesting as scandals go. Honestly, if this were a male candidate no one would be talking about him stepping down over his daughter’s pregnancy. I hate to go there, but it’s true.

  8. #432352
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm, Uplander said:

    Beautiful feint within a feint.
    Sucker the scumbags, letting them speculate about the Maternity of the youngster Trigg Palin. Once the gutter speculation has had time to propagate throughout the ‘Scumosphere’, reveal that even Senator McCain knew of the Expectant new Mom in the Palin Family.
    I guess even scumosphere math can’t call Young Master Trigg anything but Sarah’s child and Bristol’s little brother.
    FWIT – Sounds like an average American Family, with issues best handled by the ‘Family’, NOT The Village.

  9. #432353
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm, rambler said:

    People who live in glass houses…..How many Dems failed to face the consequences of their actions until it was jammed down their throats and they we’re NOT 17; Spitzer and call girls, Clinton and Monica & etc, Jessie Jackson plus love child, Edwards and Hunter. The list goes on and on. If it is done by a conservative or a republican it’s a crime; done by a liberal or dem, it’s a trend. These whinny adults expect children to behave better than they do inspite of the fact that they have created a social cesspool of amoral values under the banner of tolerance. Since the discussion has sunk to this level, it is clear that the dems really have no important issues to debate and prefer the use of character assassination for a platform.

  10. #432355
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:20 pm, Donut44 said:

    Patriot, I do not want to compare resumes, and was merely giving my description to let you know who I am and that I am not some wolf in sheeps clothing since your entire post in response to mine was nothing but a personal attack on me. Which is a sign that you do not want to talk, but instead want to come out swinging. So, I merely wanted to invite you to swing away and I promise to let you hit me (given your resume, I am sure I couldn’t block it even if I tried).

    The mere fact that the actions done by the daughter are against the “family values” object of a conservative agenda does not now automatically make Palin a liberal and I sure don’t recall implying she is one. However, it would be glaring contradiction. I never said anything with the word “perfect” in it, but this is hardly like she was caught cheating on a spelling test in school. This is a reflection on her as a parent (does not send her to parent hell or anything even close of course) and on her family, and I bet you would feel the same. From a personal stand point, this does not make her family a bad family or her a bad person, but politics, especially a presidential campaign is not the place for her. And it is unrealistic and unacceptable that conservatives have to have this as well.

  11. #432359
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:10 pm, Donut44 said:

    No doubt Jet, you are right, but again, I can’t see how an issue like this is something the GOP needs or wants and certainly not an issue that is good for conservatives. Can I be wrong? Of course. My wife seems to think that this can be a strong selling point (and she is obviously more right then me some most of the time).

    As for torpedoing McCain, he can do that himself well enough and just because someone attacks McCain, it does not make them a liberal. It might not make them a republican, but certainly not a liberal. I can not, nor will I try to speak for anyone on this board, but I do know I am far more conservative than McCain is or wants to be.

    Donut, I apologize for calling you a lib. I shouldn’t have jumped the gun like that. I understand your concern about Palin, but I really think she is a wonderful VP pick. I do not trust McCain as a Senator or President. Let’s hope that Palin can keep him straight.

  12. #432365
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm, FamilyMan said:

    I normally wouldn’t troll for libs regarding my repeated question of where do your standards come from, but this goes to the core of our differences. I set my standards as high as possible. I’ve failed countless times and keep trying. The highest standard as an ideal are there for the betterment of myself and my culture. Why would your set the lower or relative to you convenience.

  13. #432367
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm, Donut44 said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Jet Jaguar said

    No biggie, it is obvious from many of the responses to my post(s), I didn’t explain what I was saying very well.

  14. #432369
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm, PatriotRider said:

    Donut44 said:a presidential campaign is not the place for her

    So you would say that her place is in the home and not the White House?

    Dude, I don’t know what you would consider qualifications to be a bona fide conservative choice for VP but I can tell you I like her better than Romney.

    Oh, and I promise, no more personal attacks. But I will tell you when I think you are being ignorant.

  15. #432371
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm, lgm said:

    OK let’s not condemn Sarah Palin’s daughter, who didn’t choose to be in the public eye. At the same time, maybe we can refrain from condemning those who get aids by making essentially the same mistake.

  16. #432373
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:51 pm, dakine said:

    AG and atheling, what about Hippie at comment #169?

    (claps hands) Over here, brah. Please direct your questions to the chair.

  17. #432378
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm, PatriotRider said:

    lgm said:
    OK let’s not condemn Sarah Palin’s daughter, who didn’t choose to be in the public eye. At the same time, maybe we can refrain from condemning those who get aids by making essentially the same mistake.

    Hi Gertrude! Ummm yea, that would be the moral equivalent. What a marooon!

  18. #432380
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm, lgm said:
    OK let’s not condemn Sarah Palin’s daughter, who didn’t choose to be in the public eye. At the same time, maybe we can refrain from condemning those who get aids by making essentially the same mistake.

    You are a mental giant, lgm.

  19. #432381
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm, lgm said:

    OK let’s not condemn Sarah Palin’s daughter, who didn’t choose to be in the public eye. At the same time, maybe we can refrain from condemning those who get aids by making essentially the same mistake.

    You might want to brush up on your anatomy. I don’t believe HIV enters the body through the eye…unless you’re pioneering some new positions.

  20. #432384
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm, Politicalguano said:

    If the KOS and its ilk don’t leave conservative children alone they are going to end up either beaten to a pulp or their families will be “fair game.” And of course we need to start a conversation about liberals families. I wonder what Nancy Pelosi’s family is up too. Nice of her to supply photos of them all when she was sworn in as speaker. I wonder if ole’ Nancy would be pissed off if they became, “fair game” – like her son – is he still getting paid $180,000 a year from Info USA? And of course BO has a brother, a Muslim brother, living in a hut – lets see whats up with BO’s bro. And Michelle seemed a bit touchy about her kids – I bet they learned some terrible things about the USA – maybe we can get them on video repeating the hate USA filth they heard from their parents and their godfather and pastor. Bet she would be upset. But they thoe kids are fair game. Harry Reid’s son worked for Ms. Clinton’s campaign – will he be paid and other workers get shafted – was he paid more than other more qualified minorities? The drive by media families are el primo fair game of course. And then there are the KOS trash. Their families surely are “fair game.” You can bet some are in trouble with the law with such “loving” parents. The only way to stop this madness is to treat the liberals to a dose of their own medicine. We have nuclear weapons to keep the commies from using theirs. Nuke a few liberal families and then KOS will crawl back under its rock or maybe a few will meet with misfortune from some Democrat thugs. Either way we will keep our families safe.

  21. #432387
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm, Donut44 said:

    Oh, and I promise, no more personal attacks. But I will tell you when I think you are being ignorant.

    Lol, fair enough, then I must commend you for restraint, because I am sure I have crossed that line already.

    If my two choices have to be between Palin and Romney, then I chose her as well. But I am still just amazed that this is the last surviving female conservative on the planet (exageration of course, and bad spelling). I just don’t understand why invite this type of controversy and why Palin would subject her family to this.

  22. #432388
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Here’s a fair story from TIME magazine, of all places.

    The fact is, regardless of what you will hear over the next few days, Bristol’s pregnancy is not a legitimate political issue. Sarah Palin is a longterm member of a group called Feminists for Life, which is not opposed to birth control. So you probably can’t tag her for consigning young people to unwanted pregnancies.

  23. #432391
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    I just don’t understand why invite this type of controversy and why Palin would subject her family to this.

    As was stated earlier, they are able to make their own difficult decisions, much like you are able to make yours.

    Let’s give the Palin family the benefit of the doubt. Do you honestly think her family didn’t have any input on the decision?

  24. #432392
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm, Bill Grant said:

    ” Now leave her alone.”

    It isn’t going to be that easy. I’m afraid.

  25. #432397
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm, hayroller15 said:

    Me and my wife had a baby at 17, that was 21 years ago. Now he is in college about to graduate. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. You north east liberals piss me off. So what is the perfect age for you liberals to have a baby. I see people thirty years old that are disasters as parents. I suspect that the way she was raised that her and her husband and new baby will have a great life. I didn’t turn out so bad either, money in the bank and 5000 acres. Oh by the way, my other son was homeschooled and also now in college at 17.

    All that needs to be remembered Hayroller is that ALL on the left see no problem with a baby outside the womb, having a scissors jammed into the back of its head, having its brains sucked out and being thrown away like a piece of trash.

    …are the same ones now who are oh-so-concerned over a young woman who is pregnant and has decided to keep the baby.

    Every single one on the left supports the above practice, shown by their support of Obama who voted three times to allow the practice to continue.

  26. #432398
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:48 pm, PatriotRider said:

    Donut44 said:I just don’t understand why invite this type of controversy and why Palin would subject her family to this.

    Not to sound too idealistic but perhaps for the greater common good and from a servant’s heart she feels the sacrifice is worth it.

  27. #432400
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm, Donut44 said:

    Let’s give the Palin family the benefit of the doubt. Do you honestly think her family didn’t have any input on the decision?

    I am not sure any of us can fathom the true measure of the MSM’s hatred and contempt for republicans and anything that they can turn into a “christian right” hypocracy. Sure, we see it and we think we can be prepared, but I am not sure we can. So, yes, I do believe she consulted with her family and I do hope they are shielded from this as much as possible.

    I don’t dispute they are grown ups and can make their own decisions. However, the presidency is not exactly a do what ever makes you feel good type of position. I am just not real sure this was the best move for the party, but again, I am wrong often and hopefully will be here as well.

  28. #432403
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm, Silkyinfamous said:

    The majority of teenagers who do have abortions are poor and without a responsible partner.I don’t believe that when a woman has an abortion she feels good about it. I believe it is a lifetime of pain and what if’s.

    Have you seen Barack Obama go after Bristol? No. He told the press to shut up and I am sure he means it. Attacking Obama after his message like that is petty and becoming quite sad on what the press can go after him for.

    Time for y’all to leave this story alone too.

  29. #432404
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 3:21 pm, BemusedLib said:

    Palin is the successful governor of a small state whose budget is 80% funded by oil royalties. She has no experience at all with issues and ideas beyond the far-flung borders of Alaska, and it shows in the way that she’s presented not as a competent leader, but as shorthand for the same old conservative ideals that even I can name and a sop to women whom McCain desperately needs. She ain’t ready for prime time.

    Small state, big oil and far flung.

    I would take her over the lop-eared dweeb who would meet with any number of our enemies unconditionally.

    I bet she also knows how many states there are in the union, as opposed to many on the left that think Alaska is a small state.

  30. #432405
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm, liberty3 said:

    The dialogue about Bristol Palin will pass, but the contrast between Palin and Obama regarding the “problem” – according to Obama – should remain part of the political discussion. Obama’s statement is a perfect example of the left’s dislike for life – beginning it or ending it.

    BTW, where is Obama’s grandmother? Why haven’t we heard from her or see her or any other of his relatives at the Dem’s convention? Betcha Grandma has a lot to say—negative probably—wonder where he put her!!!

  31. #432409
    On September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm, flmom said:

    Donut

    Maybe John McCain felt she was the best person for the job and that the fact her daughter is pregnant wouldn’t be an issue from that standpoint.
    In my view, it doesn’t diminish Sarah Palin, it just makes her even more human.

  32. #432414
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm, love2rumba said:

    Obama’s experience trumps Miss Congeniality’s by a long shot. But, since this was a major arrow in McCain’s quiver, I am happy to see it taken off the table.

    That’s a crock of sh$t, Bemused Lib The Presidency is an executive position, not a legislative position.

    Obama even as a Senator has not put out one piece of his own legislation; his appeal has been vibrant only in regards to see how many different things he can be to different people, and for those people never being able to see the real Obama. That strategy has not panned out for Obama as even you can see.

    Sarah Palin has been an effective uncorrupt governor from the git go. I’d rather have someone that effective that early, than one who has been in so long they should have been removed eons ago. This gives Palin a selling point over even McCain himself-she knows how to run the executive branch already.

  33. #432417
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:07 pm, Sidana said:

    If the KOS and its ilk don’t leave conservative children alone they are going to end up either beaten to a pulp or their families will be “fair game.”

    No. We Can’t do to their children what they continually do to Conservative leaders children.

    That is not somewhere that we need to go. As frustrating as this is, that is never a real option.

    The problem is.. that for some reason Liberals see having high standards and values as equating never making a mistake. It doesn’t. We all do.

    The real hypocrites demanding perfection in imperfect men and women ARE liberals.

    There is plenty of room for forgiveness and better actions in our group. Especially toward people’s children.

  34. #432421
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm, Silkyinfamous said:

    liberty3 said:
    Obama’s statement is a perfect example of the left’s dislike for life – beginning it or ending it.

    Sometimes I just don’t understand. How does given someone a right to have an abortion make a whole group of people blood thristy murderers. Seriously, if you’re so against unnecessary murders, why don’t you ban guns, cigarettes, and alcohol. Oh thats right. You’re the party of free enterprise and limited government involvement. So do this, anything that has been known to cause someone harm or what would cause a pre-mature death, ban it.

    You won’t.
    You can’t.

    Just like you can never stop a women’s Choice to Choose.

  35. #432422
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm, Sidana said:

    Obama’s experience trumps Miss Congeniality’s by a long shot.

    Please, enlighten me. What are his qualifications again?

    I guess some time at Harvard, but that didn’t mean much in president Bush’s case for you to respect him.. so Harvard point out the door.

    He was a lawyer, but as I understand it, performed at a sub-par level, writing books about himself, and not the briefs he should have been turning in.

    Someone decided I think a few years ago that he should make this path to the presidency, seeing the country ripe for strife in the wake of Hillary Clinton.

    So they managed to get rid of ALL of his opponents in his first election. Not a precisely “illegal” way of doing things, but definitely made him appear more cowardly in my eyes.

    Then he became a junior senator. What has he really don’t since then? Run for president. and NOT THE WORK he was elected for. Ever.

    Soo.. he hasn’t really accomplished anything of worth that I can see other than being a black man running for office.

    If that is what you are holding up, I got a woman with time making EXECUTIVE decisions.

    Even your VP choice doesn’t have that.

  36. #432425
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm, love2rumba said:

    Moreover lets do a little historical examination here:

    Hypothesis: Given the choice between an individual who has served (honorably) as a US Senator (e.g. MCCain, Biden and Obama) vs. someone who served (honorably) as a State Governor (e.g. Palin), the historical evidence for great decisive leadership in the Oval Office is slanted toward the person who served (honorably) as a state Governor in the 20th Century.

    Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan
    are commonly referred to for decisive executive excellence whether one agrees with their policies or not…the only serious aberrrations to this were Jimmy Carter(naive as heck, which is always possible) and Bill Clinton (very crooked).

    Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Baines Johnson were all US Seantors and at best mediocre to poor leaders when the crap hit the fan (re: Korea, Bay of Pigs, and Vietnam respectively).

    The fact that the McCain-Palin ticket has executive experience between them, and the Obama-Biden ticket is composed of two (crooked) US Senators only and devoid of executive experience, favors the McCain-Palin ticket

  37. #432427
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm, DesertLover said:

    Bemused Lib

    To repeat myself … Alaska is bordered by Russia (53 miles across the Bering Straits) and Canada … The new Pipeline she negotiated comes across Canada … so you think that happened without talking and negotiating with the country of Canada? … is that not a foreign policy negotiation? … any Alaskan border issue is basically a foreign policy issue …

  38. #432429
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm, love2rumba said:

    Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan

    All the above served in a Governor’s Mansion before becoming President…BTW

  39. #432430
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm, Duke of Pronia said:

    Michelle (or anyone else who knows), is there an e-mail addy we can send letters of support to Mrs. Palin? I am going to go to Mr. McCain’s website and send him an e-mail supporting his choice for VP, but I think it would be helpful for Mrs. Palin to know that, even in the midst of the tempest, she has a lot of support among the grass roots. If this has been posted upthread, I apologize, but I am just getting in from work. Thanks.

  40. #432431
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm, navywife91 said:

    Like I said before, we need a troll filter. I’m so glad that nero has been dismissed…finally. I am also going to commend Obama for his statement about Bristol Palin, but he cannot lump his wife into that “off limits” area. When Brisol makes speeches and gets involved in the campaign, like Michelle O., maybe I’ll change my mind.

  41. #432434
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm, JamieD said:

    Very good point Desertlover. I had not even considered the negotiations that must have taken place when implementing the gas pipeline.

    Executive Experience trumps 2 legislators any day.

  42. #432436
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm, navywife91 said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm, DesertLover said:
    Bemused Lib

    To repeat myself … Alaska is bordered by Russia (53 miles across the Bering Straits) and Canada … The new Pipeline she negotiated comes across Canada … so you think that happened without talking and negotiating with the country of Canada? … is that not a foreign policy negotiation? … any Alaskan border issue is basically a foreign policy issue …

    Desertlover meet brick wall.

    BTW Blib: I got your message up there. Although I think the comments about names wasn’t the most intelligent way to make an argument, I don’t know his heart and therefore cannot call him a racist. I’ve heard plenty of black and hispanic comedians make fun of “creative” names and I don’t think they’re racist or self-loathing types. You need to be careful about calling people racist because it’s like crying wolf. When a real one comes around (and there are lots in many different colors), your credibility might be diminished.

  43. #432438
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm, tettes said:

    #275 – the contents of your post do not match up with the reporting:

    1) Obama was ahead in the polls before his democratic opponent bowed out in 2004. You said he was behind.

    2) The court records were not “mysteriously” released. Media in Chicago sued to have the records revealed, and the Ryan family did not appeal when a judge agreed.

    3) Obama was “elected” but didn’t “win” the seat?!? I think I know what you mean, but it makes no sense, especially considering the accusations you make to back your point are apparently not based in fact.

    All of the reporting on this issue is right here, but I have a feeling many of you will choose to believe whatever suits you:

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/25/il.ryan/

  44. #432441
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:30 pm, navywife91 said:

    All the above served in a Governor’s Mansion before becoming President…BTW

    I’m beginning to wonder why some of us here are trying so hard to convince the libs that infested this thread (with a couple exceptions). Facts don’t matter. That’s why we have people talking about killing animals and the Pledge of Allegiance instead of the topic listed.

  45. #432443
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm, sandyb said:

    #36On September 1st, 2008 at 1:39 pm, Jim M. said:
    Gee, wasn’t The One conceived out of wedlock? Did I get that wrong?

    Game, set, match.

    Re The One’s father’s babymaking habits, Rush said he makes Bill Clinton’s dad look conservative. I believe the Obama offspring count (Barack and his Hutpeep’s bros and sis’s) is up to eight, but they’re still looking.

  46. #432445
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:49 pm, BemusedLib said:
    Obama’s experience trumps Miss Congeniality’s by a long shot.

    Yooo betcha Lib! While Governor Palin was stuck in Alaska running the largest state in the country, B. Hussein Obama was… was… um… ‘gaining experience’.

    When it comes to avoiding responsibility Obama’s your man!

    As an Illinois state senator B. Hussain Obama voted “present” effectively sidestepping the issue, nearly 130 times.

    Unfortunately the U.S. Senate doesn’t have the option to vote “Present” so he just avoided voting all together. By November 2007 he amassed an enviable percentage of actually voting 20% of the time.

    He even canceled a campaign trip to Rock Hill SC so he could return to Washington and cast “crucial votes in the Senate concerning the ongoing war in Iraq” and still didn’t cast a vote.

    What a guy! You can’t buy experience like that, unless you’re George Soros

  47. #432447
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pm, Rob said:

    Soo.. he hasn’t really accomplished anything of worth that I can see other than being a black man running for office.

    THAT is very true. But Palin is where she is because she is a woman.

    Both as good a reason as any I guess to successful in politics.

    Being a white male with experience and a great war record helped Duke Cunningham go far….

  48. #432454
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm, JamieD said:

    All of the reporting on this issue is right here, but I have a feeling many of you will choose to believe whatever suits you:

    How presumptuous! From what I’ve seen on this thread (you know, ACTUAL data), most would welcome the presentation of facts.

    However, that said, Obama did get ALL of his competition disqualified from the race by objecting to their petition signatures. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but that’s not “winning” because the voters did not get to decide. The only competition came AFTER Obama was unopposed and this came from an outsider. I hardly call that winning, although technically he did win.

  49. #432460
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:51 pm, orlandocajun said:

    “The Palin family values the sanctity of life. They talk the talk and walk the walk. It is driving the Left absolutely insane beyond the farthest reaches of unhingedness.”

    What’s the bad news?

  50. #432464
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:37 pm, BemusedLib said:

    Queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef, queef…Note to NavyWife91: Now I’m calling someone racist. Not because he doesn’t support Obama, but because he is.

    Who ya talkin’ about Befuddled?

  51. #432465
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm, Omu said:

    As an Illinois state senator B. Hussain Obama voted “present” effectively sidestepping the issue, nearly 130 times.

    Unfortunately the U.S. Senate doesn’t have the option to vote “Present” so he just avoided voting all together. By November 2007 he amassed an enviable percentage of actually voting 20% of the time.

    He even canceled a campaign trip to Rock Hill SC so he could return to Washington and cast “crucial votes in the Senate concerning the ongoing war in Iraq” and still didn’t cast a vote.

    I’m guessing you can’t back any of this up?

    In any case, Palin wasn’t even governor of Alaska when McCain started his campaign for the nomination. She wasn’t even in office. If you want to class anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-environment opinions as experience then go ahead, but under the typical definition of the word, Obama has much, much more experience than Mrs. Palin does.

  52. #432469
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:57 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Abortion and Marxists

    Where are all the Kos Democrats Communists now?

    Marxists are the most rabidly pro-Abortion members of the Democrat[ic Socialist] Party.

    I’ve been having an interesting “conversation” with a Marxist in the comments of one of my posts.

    This is most certainly a battle of good vs. evil.

    And good will win this November.

  53. #432470
    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm, Omu said:
    If you want to class anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-environment opinions as experience then go ahead, but under the typical definition of the word, Obama has much, much more experience than Mrs. Palin does.

    Please, at least try to make a coherent argument to support your position.

  54. #432472
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm, sandyb said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:14 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Bristol making a mistake in judgement doesn’t equate to an abandonment of principle for conservatives. I thought you were smarter than that.

    Just for fun, using your rationale, Obama can’t EVER argue:

    -Against terrorism
    -Against shady political/financial dealings
    -Against racism
    -Against a lack of experience
    -Against lying
    -Against personal attacks

    The list goes on and on.

    Speaking of The One and terrorism, heard Jon Voight (at the RNC) on Cavuto earlier and he said there’s way more to come about the Ayers/o-BAMMA relationship now that the Annenberg papers are coming out. Wonder if he knows something we don’t? I’ll bet most of the truly damaging stuff was shredded long before reporters got to see it.

  55. #432484
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:08 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    A Random Idiot said:

    Obama has much, much more experience than Mrs. Palin does.

    Then why does he never talk about his experience?

  56. #432487
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm, sandyb said:
    Speaking of The One and terrorism, heard Jon Voight (at the RNC) on Cavuto earlier and he said there’s way more to come about the Ayers/o-BAMMA relationship now that the Annenberg papers are coming out. Wonder if he knows something we don’t? I’ll bet most of the truly damaging stuff was shredded long before reporters got to see it.

    Interesting. It’s a shame that Obama’s established association with a known, unrepentant terrorist isn’t seen as damaging based on extant facts.

    If a conservative counted domestic terrorists among his/her friends and benefactors, it would (conveniently) be a bad thing.

  57. #432488
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm, rooster said:

    So, let me get this straight. Teen pregnancy is good if the teen is of means, bad if she isn’t? Interesting take. I stand by the idea that teen pregnancy is a problem no matter what the class of the impregnated girl.

    Since the 60’s, and the lefts score on enslaving the typical black community by providing my money for their care by having multiple babies before graduation is a problem with people of little or no means to care for a child. Generations have learned and been taught to abuse the taxpayers of America, with the help of the democrap party. So, in this sense, yes it is much less of a burden for a family with the means to support a child, than for one from the south side of chi-town or detroit who may think of it as a way of making a living without working!
    But, you are absolutely right that it is a shame that it is becoming so normal for us to watch kids have babies, regardless of income.
    If you are offended nyk….den bin ich aber froh!

  58. #432491
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:12 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:02 pm, atheling said:
    Where is 30 Pieces?

    I’ve noticed that she hasn’t been around since the announcement of McCain’s VP.

    Just wondering.

    Hi atheling,

    I’m around… stalking essentially. BTW, loving the Palin pick.

  59. #432493
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:12 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    The Same Idiot said:

    She wasn’t even in office.

    Wrong as two boys kissing. Sarah Palin was the incumbent mayor of Wasilla.

    You see, Sarah Palin was an elected community leader. B. Who’s He Obama was an unelected community agitator–a shakedown artist.

  60. #432518
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:26 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm, Omu said:

    I’m guessing you can’t back any of this up?

    In any case, Palin wasn’t even governor of Alaska when McCain started his campaign for the nomination. She wasn’t even in office.

    B. Hussein Obama’s voting record (or lack there of) is a matter of public embarrassment record. Look it up.

    By the way, Governor Pain was sworn in to run the largest state in the union and become the commander in chief of the only National Guard unit on permanent active duty on December 4, 2006.

    John McCain announced his run for President on April 25, 2007

    Please go be wrong somewhere else.

    ktnxbye

  61. #432521
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm, Ron said:

    Unbelievable that Bristol’s pregnancy is being used as ammunition for sex education, and aimed explicitly at her mother’s opposition to all but abstinence education. See, they say. Abstinence doesn’t work. Guess what? Neither do condoms (infrequently used by teen-agers and not infallible), and neither does free and easy abortion (a murder, not a choice.)

  62. #432523
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    evangalical’s and neo’s since the day they had Regan pick Bush sr.

    AlohaGuy said: Is it ok if we don’t take you seriously?

    You should take me seriously we have an 8.5 trillion deficit. Is that the republican platform. Are you saying that is conservative? I hope not. You watch the dollar crash when this election is over.

    This thread is about Bristol Palin and leaving her alone, and you’re babbling about “evangalical’s” and “Regan” and the deficit. In answer to your question, no, a huge deficit isn’t isn’t conservative, neither is it the topic.

  63. #432524
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    LGM

    OK let’s not condemn Sarah Palin’s daughter, who didn’t choose to be in the public eye. At the same time, maybe we can refrain from condemning those who get aids by making essentially the same mistake.

    I don’t think we should condemn anyone, LGM. Mercy and generosity are much more important.

  64. #432528
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm, love2rumba said:

    That’s why we have people talking about killing animals and the Pledge of Allegiance instead of the topic listed.

    True navywife91, I just enjoy seeing libs writhe in their own untruths. I find it amusing.

  65. #432556
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, Omu said:

    Wrong as two boys kissing.

    Homophobic bigotry on a right wing blog? Never!

    Sarah Palin was the incumbent mayor of Wasilla.

    Wasilla is a tiny, tiny town. It’s not even in the top 100 towns in Alaska and that’s saying something. Do you honestly think being the mayor of a town in Alaska with barely 6000 inhabitants is enough experience to be VP? No, you don’t. But because Palin hates gays and the environment and because she’s anti-choice, you’re going to defend her anyway.

    Barack Obama was a lawyer for many years before he gave up his well-paid job to become a community organiser. Then he spent 8 years in the Illinois senate, and was then elected to the Senate in Washington where he pushed for greater responsibility in the spending of federal funds. He also made official visits to the middle east and Europe and helped create legislation relating to nuclear terrorism and the environment. It’s obvious to anyone that Obama has much, much more experience. But because he doesn’t hate gay people, doesn’t scorn the poor and refuses to condemn women who seek to choose, you’re going to attack him.

    What a sorry lot you are!

  66. #432560
    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm, Dan Lee said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:11 pm, dakine said:

    Dan Lee, other than having a highly unoriginal and derivative blog, not sure what you problem is brah.

    I bet my blog gets a lot more readers than your does.. Well that is if you had the smarts to actually run one.. When you have a blog of your own then you can possibly come back & talk about it with some authority.

    As of right now you do very little to add to the value of the country or the political process. Being a troll doesn’t really count..

  67. #432568
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:02 pm, JamieD said:

    OMU:

    Prove that “Obama was a lawyer for many years before he gave up his well-paid job to become a community organiser organizer”.

    Although he has a law degree, I am not aware that he spent anytime other than a summer job as a researcher, or as Obama’s book puts it: in the “Secretarial pool”.

    And as far as the highly paid job is concerned, his employer is quoted as saying he was paid $10,000 plus a free $2,000 car.

  68. #432569
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:04 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Homophobic bigotry on a right wing blog? Never!

    Simply because you agree with something doesn’t necessarily make it right. By the by, do you even know what homophobia means.

    Wasilla is a tiny, tiny town. It’s not even in the top 100 towns in Alaska and that’s saying something. Do you honestly think being the mayor of a town in Alaska with barely 6000 inhabitants is enough experience to be VP? No, you don’t. But because Palin hates gays and the environment and because she’s anti-choice, you’re going to defend her anyway.

    You equate disagreeing with something as being hateful. My brother is gay and I love him with all of my heart, nice try though. Additionally, you libs really need to leave the “experience” factor out of the equation… it will not work out to the benefit of The Chosen One.

  69. #432573
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:06 pm, Dan Lee said:

    PBoilermaker wrote in #159:

    Tell me, dakine, if you only believe in zero defect arguments, how do you function in everyday life? I can’t think of any liberal argument that is zero defect.

    The way he functions in everyday life is clearly to point out everyone elses faults on message boards with zero tolerence, while overlooking his own.

    When you live is a house with no mirrors, it’s easier to miss your own faults.. Maybe he has none?

  70. #432576
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:07 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    But because Palin hates gays and the environment

    Really? She said that? I don’t remember that part.

  71. #432578
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:10 pm, JamieD said:

    I’m going to have to start ignoring these trolls who make wild accusations without any facts. Its a true waste of effort.

  72. #432580
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:12 pm, Omu said:

    PKAmmoTroop wrote:

    B. Hussein Obama’s voting record (or lack there of) is a matter of public embarrassment record. Look it up.

    The burden of proof is on you.

    Besides, are you trying to tell me that McCain’s record is better? Hah!

    By the way, Governor Pain was sworn in to run the largest state in the union and become the commander in chief of the only National Guard unit on permanent active duty on December 4, 2006.

    John McCain announced his run for President on April 25, 2007

    Please go be wrong somewhere else.

    McCain started his campaign on November 13, 2006.

    Palin was sworn in as governor on December 4, 2006.

    So, I guess it’s you that’s wrong, huh?

  73. #432582
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:13 pm, civiliantrooper said:

    I can relate with Ed. My oldest was 20 when she had my Grand Daughter. She took a lot of heat from some of the Family and friends. But she stood by her morals and did what she knew was right. There was never a doubt in her mind. I have never been so proud of anything in my life. (My 10 year old telling me Obama scares her comes in a close 2nd) I am now blessed with two beautiful Grand Children. And my Daughter has a wonderful Family.
    As I sit here at the keyboard with my 8 month old Daughter Elizibeth I get sick at the thought of someone snuffing out something so amazing. The logic is pathetic. Just my opinion.

  74. #432584
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:15 pm, BrianNY said:

    It was tough to decipher (even after your three tries) but it appears that you are trying to say that Obama has more “legislative experience” as one of many within a deliberative body such as a senate.

    Ok, I’ll give you that.

    But how does that diminish the fact that Governor Palin has more “executive experience,” (eg. governor, mayor, commissioner, etc.) than Obama?

    You haven’t proven your case with me yet.

  75. #432591
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, Omu squealed:

    Wasilla is a tiny, tiny town. It’s not even in the top 100 towns in Alaska and that’s saying something.

    Ever wonder where all those 650,000 Alaskans live? Yes, OMG. They’re asking you!

    This list shows the 2000 census of all Alaska cities, villages and census defined places (CDP).

    L ocality Population
    1 Anchorage municipality 260,283
    2 Juneau city and borough 30,711
    3 Fairbanks city 30,224
    4 College CDP 11,402
    5 Sitka city and borough 8,835
    6 Ketchikan city 7,922
    7 Knik-Fairview CDP 7,049
    8 Kenai city 6,942
    9 Lakes CDP 6,706
    10 Kodiak city 6,334
    11 Kalifornsky CDP 5,846
    12 Bethel city 5,471
    13 Wasilla city 5,469

    You might want to run this by your buddy, lgm for verification, but 13 is less than 100. So a town that ranks thirteenth in a category also ranks in the top 100.

    Your intellectual laziness disqualifies you from discussing any non-gay topics. You might as well grab Lemmiwinks and Mr. Slave and head on down to your basement.

    Dolt.

  76. #432594
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm, Omu said:

    30 pcs of silver wrote:

    By the by, do you even know what homophobia means.

    Yes, I do. And if you’re someone who needs to actively and casually insult gay people, then you do have an irrational fear.

    Simply because you agree with something doesn’t necessarily make it right.

    “Agree” with it? What’s there to agree with? Two people love each, and want the state to recognise that, just as it recognises everyone else. They happen to be of the same gender. So what? Honestly, grow up already.

    You equate disagreeing with something as being hateful. My brother is gay and I love him with all of my heart, nice try though

    Hate to break it to you, but wishing the denial of rights to your brother, and to gays everywhere, is absolutely a very, very hateful thing.

  77. #432595
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm, navywife91 said:

    But because Palin hates gays and the environment and because she’s anti-choice, you’re going to defend her anyway.

    Please show us the proof that Palin said these things in bold.

    The burden of proof is on you.

    Why, yes it is.

  78. #432598
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:23 pm, NC BLUE said:

    I am pumped about Sarah Palin pick. I bet everyone on this thread has a son or daughter that did something oppposite of what you taught them–some are pregnant, some are in jail, some are dead, others are where you don’t want them to be. Palins daughter did something opposite of her parents teachings. They love and support her and she is now accepting responsibility for her actions. I always told my boys I may be very upset with their choices, but we would always love them. The vile left is just that–vile.

  79. #432601
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, Omu gushed:

    Then he spent 8 years in the Illinois senate, and was then elected to the Senate in Washington where he pushed for greater responsibility in the spending of federal funds.

    Yeah. That worked out really well. :lol:

  80. #432602
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Omu said:

    Die Hippie, Die wrote:

    Your intellectual laziness disqualifies you from discussing any non-gay topics. You might as well grab Lemmiwinks and Mr. Slave and head on down to your basement.

    Dolt.

    You’re pathetic. Seriously, how old are you? Does it make you feel more secure, more masculine in yourself to belittle gay people like that?

    For the record, I’m not actually gay. But I care little if that’s what you want to think.

    Oh, and btw, if you can’t even back up your stats with a source, what are they worth?

  81. #432606
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, Omu said:

    Even your conservative buddies at NRO are telling you to grow up, and face the facts about Obama:

    Can we conservatives please stop kidding ourselves about Barack Obama’s “qualifications”? Yes, if I had been a Democratic donor back in 2006, I’d sure worry about whether Barack Obama had what it took to be president. That was before he took on the toughest political operation in America, before he beat Bill and Hillary Clinton, before he won 18 million primary votes.

    Obama’s nomination was not handed to him. He fought hard for it and won against the odds. “Qualifications” predict achievement. Once you have achieved, it doesn’t matter what your qualifications are. Who cares whether the guy who built a big company from nothing didn’t have much of a resume when he started? But if you are applying to run a big company built by somebody else, the resume matters …

    The worst mistake in any fight is to under-estimate your opponent’s abilities. Look what happened to the people who under-estimated Reagan. If conservatives are to have any hope in the coming weeks, we should wake up to the fact that we face in Barack Obama a formidable man, who appeals to something important and deep in the American electorate. He’s not a superman, he has vulnerabilities, he can be beaten. But he won’t be beaten until we who are trying to beat him understand why and how he has come so far

    - David Frum

  82. #432607
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, edelweiss said:

    Palin is a total disgrace to this country. It’s so SWEET: that clueless “Christian conservative” lady preaching abstinence cannot even educate her own daughter much less have solutions to the problems of our country. Christian conservative wingnuts should not be getting in the way and affecting policies which only support abstinence because clearly it does not work, that’s why teenage girls (including Bristol Palin) must have unlimited access to birth control including ABORTION. Like most Republicans, that lady is a joke and should NEVER become VP.

    http://www.pregnantteenhelp.org/articles59.html

  83. #432608
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, navywife91 said:

    Oh, and btw, if you can’t even back up your stats with a source, what are they worth?

    Exactly. I’m still waiting, omu.

  84. #432611
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm, navywife91 said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, edelweiss said:
    Palin is a total disgrace to this country. It’s so SWEET: that clueless “Christian conservative” lady preaching abstinence cannot even educate her own daughter much less have solutions to the problems of our country. Christian conservative wingnuts should not be getting in the way and affecting policies which only support abstinence because clearly it does not work, that’s why teenage girls (including Bristol Palin) must have unlimited access to birth control including ABORTION. Like most Republicans, that lady is a joke and should NEVER become VP.

    Yes, an abortion would solve all the problems, wouldn’t it?

  85. #432612
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm, Omu said:

    Navywife91 wrote:

    Please show us the proof that Palin said these things in bold.

    She wants to destroy Alaska’s wildlife and environment to drill for more oil. She vehemently opposes any rights for gays at all, and only signed a measly benefits bill into law because the Supreme Court of Alaska forced her too.

    Ergo: she hates gays, she cares little for the environment.

  86. #432614
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm, JamieD said:

    Omu:

    Now I understand your extreme comments and accusations that have no fact.

    You have not learned the concept of Freedom. You do not have the freedom to destroy my rights, just as I do not have the freedom to destroy your rights.

    Trying to change marriage to fit your definition is an encroachment on my rights.

    The key word here is change. No one denies gays the right to see loved ones in the hospital or deny them legal agreements. But to change marriage is forcing your ideals over others ideals. Enjoy your idea of family (IMPOSSIBLE – Gays can’t produce!), but leave my family alone!

    And that is NOT hate, its protecting my freedom!

  87. #432615
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Omu said way too defensively:

    For the record, I’m not actually gay.

    For the record. I don’t care whether you’re actually gay, conveniently gay, occasionally gay. I do care that you’re too stupid to discuss issues.

    You bleated “Oh, and btw, if you can’t even back up your stats with a source, what are they worth?”

    Did your ganglia process this: This list shows the 2000 census of all Alaska cities, villages and census defined places (CDP). Do I have to link to Merriam-Webster’s definition of census for your lazy arse?

    Dolt.

  88. #432616
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm, Lindsay said:

    I am slow to anger, but I am angry at the hypocritical left-wing moonbats sitting in judgment about the Palin family. These same people worship at the alter of Hollywood’s unwed mothers, and spew venom today to degrade a good family.

    Happily, I think their disgusting Kos crap will increase votes for McCain and Palin. I think that if I am this angry and disgusted, imagine how Sarah Palin feels today. If one of my cubs were insulted like they have insulted her child, the gloves would come off.

    Sarah, show no mercy on these dysfunctional psychos that throw darts behind their keyboards. In other words, “sic ‘em, Sarah.”

    We donated to the McCain/Palin campaign on Friday. I am mad enough, now, that I will do even more: I am going to volunteer and fight for them anyway I can and haven’t done since 2000. I ask all of you MM readers to do the same if you feel the same. This is not an election, it is a battle to prevent the creatures of Kos worldview to spread.

  89. #432617
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    edelweiss, if only your mother had unlimited access to ABORTION, what a wonderful world this would be!

  90. #432618
    On September 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm, navywife91 said:

    She wants to destroy Alaska’s wildlife and environment to drill for more oil. She vehemently opposes any rights for gays at all, and only signed a measly benefits bill into law because the Supreme Court of Alaska forced her too.

    Ergo: she hates gays, she cares little for the environment.

    How is drilling in a teeny, tiny part of ANWR going to destroy the environment? Many people, who are experts in this field, (unlike you and I) completely disagree. For whatever reason she signed this benefits bill, she signed it. Somehow you still say she hates gays. Why do you use the word “hate” so much. Just because people disagree, it doesn’t mean they hate. Do you hate conservatives or Republicans?

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