Daily Kos tries to cancel P.D.S. alert

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 1, 2008 09:55 AM


Photoshop: David Lunde

We noted the nutroots’ deepening Palin Derangement Syndrome over the weekend, topped by a diarist at the Daily Kos who’s been spreading disgusting, bottom-of-the-barrel rumors — picked up by the excitable and shameless Andrew Sullivan — about Gov. Sarah Palin’s youngest child and attacking one of Palin’s daughters as the mother of Trig.

The Free Republic fights back with photos of a very pregnant Gov. Palin in late February. I linked to an April blog post from an airline passenger who met the pregnant governor on a flight from Fairbanks. It is unbelievably surreal that this dirtbag Kossack rumor has to be debunked.

Even another Kos diarist is now trying to undo the damage. Accompanied by the photo the Freepers found, the diarist headlined a post this morning: “Sarah Palin Baby Story Ender.” The diarist insists: “Unless someone has counter evidence, we can drop this crap now.”

The diarist is arguing with his/her fellow tinfoilers about whether Palin is wearing a “fake pregnancy suit” and commenters are still insisting that Palin’s daughter was showing and the governor was not. And in an update, the diarist — no doubt feeling pressure from the paranoid zealots in the cesspool — is polling readers on whether the post should be deleted. Nearly 30 percent of readers think the post attempting to debunk the rumor should be deleted.

Truly, truly unhinged.

You really can’t cure stupid.

***

From the comments in the alternate universe known as the Daily Kos:

Daughter showing – Mom not showing (10+ / 0-)

Recommended by: BrooklynJohnny, Aspe4, RFK Lives, sparko, JoieDe, skyounkin, OMwordTHRUdaFOG, edsbrooklyn, eroded47095, Courtneys Mom

It’s not hard to find photos of the family where the daughter seems to be showing and Mom does not seem to be showing. The photos are not necessarily from 2008, but from the ages of the kids, they can’t be from very long ago.

There are several different pictures taken on different days of the whole family. The ones I saw were part of the video on three YouTube videos, by three separate people.

At the very least, there is something strange going on here.

Another Democrat against McCain

by NWSteve on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 09:43:56 PM PDT

“Strange,” indeed. These people are insane.

The padding conspiracy lives:

Unless she was wearing padding (3+ / 0-)

Recommended by: rhfactor, Sandy on Signal, SadieB

a la Bree Hodge from Desperate Housewives.


by mariva on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 12:43:27 AM PDT

Refusing to back down:

DING DING DING (0+ / 0-)

None of us have any clue whether there’s any truth to this rumor. This diary doesn’t come close to answering the question.

It’s one picture taken on an uncertain date, and the poster initially got it wrong as to who took the picture. There are other pictures posted here by others that raise serious suspicions. I’d like to compare the dates of those photos w/ the date of this photo, and I’d like even more to see additional photos taken in the interim.

Team McCain made an impulsive last-minute decision b/c they saw their #s cratering during the DNC. I have little doubt that the decision will come to haunt them. Whether this story is what haunts them most of all remains to be seen.

Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?

by RFK Lives on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 06:08:16 AM PDT

She disappeared for the last two trimesters (18+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
SlackerInc, Lois, BrooklynJohnny, Hell Upside Down, peglyn, Aspe4, zannie, eaglecries, Do Tell, MrJersey, Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle, LizzyPop, the disinfector, pvmuse, NotablyZen, BetMyCitizenship, eXtina, Courtneys Mom

Had an accident turning into a prenatal clinic in February, and looked visibly pregnant when last seen in December 2007. The date of that photo mysteriously backdated to a year previous–just today. Nothing strange or whacky here. Yup.

by sparko on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 10:05:34 PM PDT

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  1. #431716
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:39 am, travlinman said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:30 am, localmalcontent said:
    KOS is a cesspool, and their contributors are detestable.

    Would this bunch be happy only with a birth certificate, showing Todd and Sarah as the parents of Trig?

    Perhaps we could insist on a birth certifate swap, with Barack then…

    We can ask for that. Of course, we have to wait for a day or two. We can’t produce Trig Palins’ birth certificate until Karl Rove gets back from NOLA. He’s down there doing some “levy” work with Bush and Cheney, and took the wrong laptop with him. His computer that’s loaded with Photo-Shop is back in Washington. :)

  2. #431717
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:40 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    It’s killin em and
    I Love It!

    It sure is!

    Especially since Palin helped raise $10 million in two days! A record for the campaign.

    They just can’t stand it!

  3. #431719
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:42 am, Dkian said:

    “Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.”

  4. #431721
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:42 am, guitarplayer said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:40 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Especially since Palin helped raise $10 million in two days! A record for the campaign.

    Really? I hope the GOP is paying attention. It shows what they get when they put a true conservative forward.

  5. #431723
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:43 am, greysheepdog said:

    This is truly amusing.

    Here are a couple of posts from one of the many Palin diaries from the Kostards…

    Would someone please make this stop!!! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:Admiral Santa, civil wingnut
    Not only do you bring shame to Obama’s campaign, you do us all shame by posting such crap on this website. Kos, you better take control of your website before this becomes fuel for the republicans. I’ve never seen so blatant a hatred for a woman as I’ve seen here on this website the past 72 hours. It’s bad on other sites, but not as flagrant or as plentiful. Almost every diary is now about this woman who is now becoming the story, and not Obama or our faith in him. If I was independent and seen the diaries and comments of the past few days I’ve read here, I wouldn’t touch the democrats with a 10 foot pole right now, whether Palin is a moose killer or is friends with secessionists. It is speaking so much louder about who we are, than it is about who Palin is. From now on, no matter what evidence or gripe we have about her, it is really justified to look at what we write as being non-credible.

    You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war….. Albert Einstein,

    by tazz on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 07:49:25 AM PDT

    Too late (0+ / 0-)
    We’ve already made Drudge.

    I was kind of ambivalent about (respectful) speculation at first, but now that we’ve seen photos of Palin OBVIOUSLY PREGNANT, we all just look stupid. IMO.

    by CarrieNYC on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 07:51:08 AM PDT

  6. #431725
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:45 am, greysheepdog said:
  7. #431732
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:47 am, Die Hippie, Die said:

    Andrew Sullivan’s commenting on pregnancy? Andrew Sullivan thinks childbirth is when the gerbil gets out alive.

    Methinks Queen Andrew is coming unhinged. :lol:

  8. #431737
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:49 am, travlinman said:

    Palin having a positive effect on the GOP is further proof of Rush Limbaughs’ message that we can’t go wrong if we stick to core conservative principles like Ronald Reagan did. Whether McCain and the GOP did it on purpose, or by accident, I am glad they did it.

  9. #431742
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:50 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Die Hippie, Die said:

    I have met someone who’s jokes are worse than my own.

  10. #431744
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:51 am, travlinman said:

    @ DHD #102, I don’t care what anyone says, that’s funny, right there!

  11. #431747
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:52 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    The lefty loons are absorbed in celebrity culture and mindset. How long until they stalk Palin’s OB/GYN for “answers”?

  12. #431750
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:53 am, GregGates said:

    There was a thread on the liberal backpacking forum I frequent about this scandal. All the libs were eating it up and discussing the pregnancy. I posted that obvious picture this morning when it dropped. Moderator instantly deleted the entire thread without mentioning it. Good game.

  13. #431752
    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:54 am, Laree said:

    The Daily Kos, could serve in a social experiment, that might benefit society at large. They should be studied, I bet there are professionals, who would like to observe their behavior, and write ground breaking research. On how with the establishment of this website, these alternate extreme explanations for the most simple events…i.e. an older woman who is pregnant, is at risk for a down syndrome baby, and then has a down syndrome baby. The Kossacks, are a segment of society that is quasi delusional on a regular basis. I would poll them to see if their mothers used any kind of drugs, when they were carrying them. Drugs that have been suspend for use, and has shown now to cause side effects today. Look how many medications today carry a warning: Do not use or handle if you are pregnant or suspect you might become pregnant. Big Pharma has been treating us like lab rats for ages. There is also the consideration of their diet, today products like Milk, have shown to cause side effects in people because of the hormones they give cows. Just musings, that they might be susceptible to all kinds of food allergies, that have shown to effect a person’s personality adversely.

    Sure they could be just a bunch of morons, who found each other on the internet but my premise is more interesting :)

  14. #431762
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:04 pm, travlinman said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 11:54 am, Laree said:
    The Daily Kos, could serve in a social experiment, that might benefit society at large. They should be studied, I bet there are professionals, who would like to observe their behavior, and write ground breaking research. On how with the establishment of this website, these alternate extreme explanations for the most simple events…i.e. an older woman who is pregnant, is at risk for a down syndrome baby, and then has a down syndrome baby. The Kossacks, are a segment of society that is quasi delusional on a regular basis. I would poll them to see if their mothers used any kind of drugs, when they were carrying them. Drugs that have been suspend for use, and has shown now to cause side effects today. Look how many medications today carry a warning: Do not use or handle if you are pregnant or suspect you might become pregnant. Big Pharma has been treating us like lab rats for ages. There is also the consideration of their diet, today products like Milk, have shown to cause side effects in people because of the hormones they give cows. Just musings, that they might be susceptible to all kinds of food allergies, that have shown to effect a person’s personality adversely.

    Sure they could be just a bunch of morons, who found each other on the internet but my premise is more interesting

    You are close, Laree, the leftist kooks are an experiment in socialism.

    Besides how could they be studied? You have to remove all bias from the sample population in order to have any chance of normality in your data! Ahem, statistically speaking, that is.
    Besides most experiments of this nature would be conducted by a group from a college or university and just where do you think most of the left-wing kooky bloggers come from?

  15. #431764
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:05 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Laree said:

    They should be studied, I bet there are professionals, who would like to observe their behavior, and write ground breaking research.

    Funny you should say this. You can almost compare the behavoir at the KOS to that of throngs of people suffering from ergotism except it’s brought about by means on the internet and belief The Elvis is still alive and well on the Planet Krypton.

  16. #431770
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:07 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    Jvette said: Well, as Mike Huckabee likes to say, “If you’re drawing a lot of flak, you must be over the target.”

    Exactly. Let them rant. We’ll just keep praying for Sarah and her family, that they’ll have the strength to turn this all aside.

    Keep sending $$ to the campaign!

  17. #431772
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:07 pm, srhoades said:

    Once again the most tolerant and compassionate among us look at a beautiful sixteen-year-old girl and see nothing but an object they can use for their own political gains. This has and will continue to backfire. Unless Obama comes out and condemns (and I mean really condemns — the way McCain did the NC GOP over a truthful ad) this slander of Bristol Palin, then he is just as culpable as the Kos Kooks.

    This is disgusting. You do not do this to any kid, especially a sixteen-year-old who is at that age where she’s overly conscious of every aspect of her appearance.

    New McCain ad: “Do we really want a president that would attack a sixteen-year-old girl just so he could come to power?”

  18. #431783
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:17 pm, nyc123me said:

    Perhaps we should go over and vote that they delete the post – the longer they look like the truly unhinged idiots they really are, the better for the feet-on-the-ground common-sense Republicans.

  19. #431784
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:17 pm, HappyGene said:

    You all are missing the “good” part; there are only two possibilities in the land of Kos.
    First, the rumor is true and the Republicans dissolve in a pool of vile stuff.
    Second, the rumor is false and it was started by Karl Rove, and when the truth gets out the Republicans dissolve in a pool of the afore mentioned vile stuff.
    So it’s really a win-win for the Kos/DU. Either they discredit Palin or Rove. (Please note these are not my opinions but are only the result of prolonged exposure to PDS resulting in stupid by proxy).
    I’m not going back, but I wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it!
    Good Luck
    Gene

  20. #431785
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:19 pm, DesertLover said:

    word just out on FNC … Sarah Palin has announced her 17 year old unmarried daughter is pregnant and engaged to the father of the baby …

  21. #431786
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:20 pm, et said:

    Fox News just reported that Sarah Palin has announced that her daughter is pregnant and is expected to marry the father.

  22. #431788
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:21 pm, nyc123me said:

    Reading some of those Kos comments.. there really is no cure, they just need to be taken out and shot like a bovine with mad cow disease. There’s no hope for them.

  23. #431790
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pm, wordweaver said:

    “The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” – Sir Winston Churchill

    I was already very pleased with the addition of Gov. Sarah Palin to the ticket (woot!), but the atrocious, juvenile attacks against her daughter pushed me to speak with my checkbook… First donation to either political party – ever.

    Go McCain/Palin ‘08

  24. #431794
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:26 pm, travlinman said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:05 pm, Goldwater Knight said:
    Laree said:

    Funny you should say this. You can almost compare the behavoir at the KOS to that of throngs of people suffering from ergotism except it’s brought about by means on the internet and belief The Elvis is still alive and well on the Planet Krypton.

    I think you have hit the nail on the head! Read this from:

    …Modern Drug Discovery
    March/April 1999
    Modern Drug Discovery, 1999, 2 (2), 20-21, 23-24, 28, 31.
    Copyright © 1999 by the American Chemical Society.

    Further efforts to isolate the various alkaloids occurring naturally in ergot led to the development of a preparation of ergoloid mesylates (Hydergine) for treating dementia. In 1943, Hofmann synthesized dihydroergotamine (DHE), marketed for the treatment of blood pressure and later shown to be highly effective for migraine.

    …In the course of Hofmann’s trial-and-error synthesis of lysergic acid derivatives, the 25th compound, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD-25), failed to show any therapeutic promise in early testing on animals. In 1943, five years after it was first synthesized and tested, Hofmann decided to synthesize LSD-25 again for further testing. While completing the synthesis, he was overcome by strange sensations, which later developed into mild euphoria accompanied by pleasant visual hallucinations.

    That explains a lot. We know that the stalwarts of the left are either the remnants of the hippies who hung around Berekley and Haight-Asbury, or their off-spring (this was before they discovered abortion) in the day.

  25. #431795
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:26 pm, nyc123me said:

    Oh no.. now it seems the daughter IS pregnant.. the Kosters will go bat-sh*t now screaming “see! see!” even though they’re still wrong about their previous claims. I can see them all now just whooping like it’s all over. Great. Just great.

  26. #431798
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pm, Lindsay said:

    Sen. McCain, it is reported, knew about the daughter’s pregnancy and chose Palin anyway. Good for him.

    Other than the moonbats, who cares?

  27. #431799
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:29 pm, ajmontana said:

    No big deal, McCain knew and nothing to still see here…. :roll:

  28. #431801
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:29 pm, nyc123me said:

    From The Independent (link)

    Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter’s pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate, deciding that it did not disqualify the 44-year-old governor in any way.

    McCain officials said the news of the daughter’s pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called “mud-slinging and lies” circulating on liberal blog sites.

    According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in May to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin’s child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother.

    A senior McCain campaign official said the McCain camp was appalled that these rumors had not only been spread around liberal blog sites and partisan Democrats, but also were the subject of heightened interest from mainstream news media.

    “The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama’s name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their ‘campaign of change,’” a senior aide said.

  29. #431804
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm, DesertLover said:

    Lindsay

    Agreed … if anything it makes the Palin family all that much more down to earth and dealing with the same sorts of situations that everyday families are confronted by … also heard that McCain knew before he announced her VP selection … I am sure they had hoped to wait until a wedding or something along those lines before making it known … but such is life and its best made plans …

    Just common sense all the way around … good for all involved …

  30. #431806
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm, ajmontana said:

    Hey, great news! I wish I was invited to the Wedding, and then some Fishing! 8)

  31. #431807
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Just out of curiosity I visited the NOW website to see if they would stand up for a woman of accomplishment being slandered. Nope. I did not really expect it either. I knew they would not support a conservative woman but at least they should call the slimy to account on behalf of women of both parties. I was expecting too much apparently.

  32. #431809
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Other than the moonbats, who cares?

    Well, I’m sure Obama cares. After all, he wouldn’t want to punish his daughters with a baby!

  33. #431810
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:34 pm, TU Owls said:
  34. #431812
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm, southsideironworks said:

    Palin’s daughter IS currently pregnant.

    Just released by the McCain-Palin Campaign at noon EST.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080901/pl_nm/usa_politics_palin_dc

  35. #431813
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm, HappyGene said:

    Wow
    And I’m not disolving into goo.

    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:29 pm, ajmontana said:
    No big deal, McCain knew and nothing to still see here….

  36. #431814
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm, travlinman said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:20 pm, et said:
    Fox News just reported that Sarah Palin has announced that her daughter is pregnant and is expected to marry the father.

    I thought you guys were kidding! Wow! Palin and her family look even more like the rest of us. They live in the real world where these things happen and must be dealt with as a family. Ha-ha-ha! This blows their ignorant bloviating a$$e$ right out of the water.

    Stay tuned kids, What will the smope-doking, no job, righteous hating trolls at Kos do for an encore?

  37. #431816
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pm, travlinman said:

    Hey, now Palin is a grandmother as well as a mother. What is there to not like?

  38. #431817
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    My prayers and thoughts go out to Bristol. It’s not easy raising a child at that young of an age, but with the help of her wonderful family, everything will work out fine.

  39. #431825
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm, Kendra said:

    The cockroaches aren’t done yet. Now they’re surfing through every Sunday sermon of her Pastor to find……

    …something.

  40. #431826
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm, travlinman said:

    Of course, all of the left-leaning idiotic trolls who supported Jamie Spears and other celebs during their under-age escapades will be having tizzie fits over the pregnancy of Palin’s daughter. Let hope that some of them work themselves into such a blather that they ’stroke out’ and do the world a favor.

  41. #431829
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:42 pm, greysheepdog said:

    The Kostards are all over this with more than 400 + posts already. It seems there is the usual “I told ya so”, some telling others to shut the hell about it, but for the most part, they’re looking at this the way they should be. This will be good for McCain….I think Kos is imploding.

  42. #431830
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:44 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Like I said yesterday, if the boyfriend was smart (which obviously his timing skills are off), he better be building a man-cave somewhere deep in the interior of the Alaskan forrest, and not showing his face for the next several years.

    I wonder just how many Alaskan state troopers and Secret Service agents have him locked down at the moment.

    And as a parent of teenagers, if he were my son, I would just be sitting in my living room with the drapes closed thinking “What have you DONE?!?!?!”

    We’ve probably all been there too.. can you imagine the conversation the boy and the girl had had? “Shhh, dont worry, no one will ever know…”

  43. #431831
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:44 pm, Chesapeaekegal said:

    Interestingly enough the fact that her daughter is pregnant and will keep the baby and be getting married will not be seen as a positive and the left will invade their privacy with gusto. Heard that the National Inquirer is already on the road to Alaska. Perhaps Mary Cheney should call Bristol and commiserate with her over how her life and her decisions will not be her own now that her Mom is going to be the next Vice President of the U.S.A. And let me see she has a lot of company in the “Im 17 an pregnant and not married category”…just look over at TMZ…Brit, her sister, probably soon to be Miley Cyrus. This is and should be a Palin family matter and I don’t see how it will impact Sarah Palin’s ability to be Veep.

  44. #431832
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:44 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    had had? lol

  45. #431835
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:46 pm, greysheepdog said:

    Will Obama come out and lecture the Palin’s about Bristol being punished with a baby?

  46. #431842
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:48 pm, Lee Hazel said:

    A small note of contrast.
    To my knowledge no picture, still or video, of Hillary Clinton pregnant has ever been shown or published. The Daily Kos or others have never questioned her daughters’ legitimacy.
    hhmmmm.
    PC is Thought Control
    LEE

  47. #431845
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pm, Robroy said:

    Can someone explain if this helps to feed Michelle Obamas’ kids or not ?

  48. #431846
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pm, travlinman said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm, Kendra said:
    The cockroaches aren’t done yet. Now they’re surfing through every Sunday sermon of her Pastor to find……

    …something.

    Stating that “Those that die without Christ have a horrible, horrible surprise” is not earth-shattering or proof of a ‘Jeremiah Wright’ moment. It is a basic tenet of Christianity. We believe that Christ came to earth and died for our sins so that we could be saved from etrnal damnation. Without that premise, Christianity has no reason to exist. Ohhhh, now I get it. That is exactly what the lefty socialists would like to see happen. Eradicate all belief in a higher power so that they may unleash their doctrine of ones’ self as the only God you need. That ‘theology’ is Ok as long as that ’self’ is controlled by the state.

  49. #431847
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:52 pm, nyc123me said:

    Can someone explain if this helps to feed Michelle Obamas’ kids or not ?

    If they feed on afterbirth, then maybe.. in about 4 months from now.

  50. #431848
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:52 pm, atheling said:

    In spite of the “mistake” that Bristol and her boyfriend may have made, the Palins are setting an example to Americans on the right way to handle it. Choose life.

    And take responsibility for it!

  51. #431850
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pm, PatriotRider said:

    greysheepdog said:
    The Kostards are all over this with more than 400 + posts already. It seems there is the usual “I told ya so”, some telling others to shut the hell about it, but for the most part, they’re looking at this the way they should be. This will be good for McCain….I think Kos is imploding.

    The libturds think that they avoid the “I told you so” by flushing the mistake, or as the Big O would put it, burden, down the toilet.

    I bet Mr. Palin needed some restraining and the snot nose father needed new underwear.

  52. #431851
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pm, Omu said:

    Well, Bristol Palin is pregnant, so the Kos was on to something right.

  53. #431853
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:54 pm, PatriotRider said:

    atheling said

    Roger that! He may be a snot nosed horn dog but at least he has a conscience.

  54. #431854
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:56 pm, PatriotRider said:

    Omu said:
    Well, Bristol Palin is pregnant, so the Kos was on to something right.

    C’mon! Tell me you are just a waterhead and not serious about your last statement.

  55. #431859
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm, nyc123me said:

    At least this proves beyond doubt that Trig is Senator Palin’s son. You can’t give birth and be several months pregnant with another child at the same time.

  56. #431863
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:58 pm, Rolsskk said:

    You can’t make this stuff up!

  57. #431864
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:58 pm, travlinman said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pm, Omu said:
    Well, Bristol Palin is pregnant, so the Kos was on to something right.

    Are you that f’ing desperate to besmirch the reputaion of the Palin family?! You are an idiot of the first order! Actually, first disorder is more like it.

  58. #431866
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:59 pm, DesertLover said:

    Omu … there you go … wrong again …

    They said it was her baby not Sarah’s … so that would mean they said she WAS pregnant … not that she IS pregnant … big difference …

    All the KOS Kooks did was create a problem for a young girl, her boyfriend and their baby that was not necessary and in poor taste …

    It was a personal family situation and therefore did not need to become a public spectacle as the Kooks will go out of their way to ensure is the case from here on in …

  59. #431867
    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:59 pm, greysheepdog said:

    nyc123me #149 NOT SO FAST!

    Bristol Pregnancy = Cover-up!!
    by igwealth5tm [Subscribe]
    Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 09:49:20 AM PDT
    Please folks keep digging because we’re really very close to exposing Sarah’s fake pregnancy.

    igwealth5tm’s diary :: ::
    This is a complete cover up from the McCain campaign because the blogosphere is actually making headway in exposing Ms. Palin’s fake pregnancy. I made this deduction by how fast they’re willing to tell us about what we didn’t really ask them about.

    Bristol is not currently pregnant; this press release is a head fake.
    Bristol’s tummy is still big from the birth of Trig
    Gov. Palin is using the ultimate cover up to cover her fake pregnancy.

    Bristol is the real mother of Trig. And Trig is the grandson of Sarah.

    This admission is all the proof we need; this admission of pregnancy is the red-flag.

    Again congratulation folks for an outstanding “grassroots oppo job”
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/1/123727/7282/618/582133

  60. #431869
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:04 pm, TimothyJ said:

    Can we call it Palin Mental Syndrome?

  61. #431872
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:05 pm, nyc123me said:

    greysheepdog #153.. omg. I’m speechless. I can barely believe anyone could be that stupid – even rabid Kosters. They are really outdoing themselves. I hope they keep up on this theme – all it does is make democrats look worse and worse, and will no doubt shame some of them to switching to Republican.

  62. #431873
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:05 pm, ajmontana said:

    Omu said:
    Well, Bristol Palin is pregnant, so the Kos was on to something right.

    Emu you poor misguided soul, the were FABRICATING something you belived in not on to something.
    But hey, don’t change your story now.
    How’s that Court excuse you used coming?

    It’s Killin em, and
    I Love It!

    McCain/Palin 08′

  63. #431875
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm, PatriotRider said:

    OK GSD, are in the same boat with Omu or are just making fun of the Kossacks?

  64. #431876
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pm, nyc123me said:

    Wait for the lunatic left to start claiming Trig is actually Willow or Piper’s son next. Just wait, it’s coming, I have no doubt.

  65. #431878
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pm, CrazyFool said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Just out of curiosity I visited the NOW website to see if they would stand up for a woman of accomplishment being slandered. Nope. I did not really expect it either.

    Whatever made you think NOW gives a crap about women’s rights?

    BTW, Didn’t OBAMA endorse these rumors when he attended Yearly KOS?

  66. #431879
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:09 pm, JohnnyD said:

    Interesting contrast in my head right now between The Ayers/Obama connection which the Dem campaign(?) has tried to stifle anyone looking into it and how this Palin pregnancy issue is being “dug up”. My impression is that Palin has been more open and available for imformation than Mr. Kurtz has had.

    Keep up the good work Daily Kos. Maybe you can find some time to investigate the Ayers/Obama connection. Oh wait….Never Mind!

  67. #431881
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:10 pm, ajmontana said:

    “Breaking News!!!!!”
    Michelle Odopeys kids are fathered by rev. wright!!!
    stop the presses!!!!

    lmao

    you go KosKidz, we can trow out trash also!

    It’s Killin em, and
    I Love It!

    McCain/Palin 08′

  68. #431882
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:11 pm, nyc123me said:

    Wait for the lunatic left to start claiming Trig is actually Willow or Piper’s son next. Just wait, it’s coming, I have no doubt..

  69. #431884
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:12 pm, nyc123me said:

    oops double post – overzealous commenter, sorry.

  70. #431886
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:14 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    What do Obama’s supporters have to complain about? All they can say is:

    Duh-hammmm dawg. Why she wait until she 17 to be havin her baby? She an ol’ woman. An wassup wit marryin da babydaddy? How she gonna get a gummint check if she do dat? Crazy ass white peeps.

  71. #431885
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:14 pm, letget said:

    A picture of Bristol on HA holding Trig looks like she has a ‘ring’ on her left ring finger. Most women don’t wear a ring there unless it a wedding or engagement ring. Congratulation to both mom and dad and g-parents. I wish them a happy long life together.
    L

  72. #431888
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:16 pm, lala said:

    #137, actually this does in my mind affect Sarah Palin’s ability to represent conservatives. As a conservative, I don’t want someone representing me who can’t succeed at instilling in her own girls simple core values such as respecting your body as something God has given you. I don’t care if Governor Palin owns a gun, enjoys hunting, takes down unethical politicians, or anything else. I care that she represents conservative values that are proactive, not reactive. And I think liberals will turn this into a sex education debate, not an abortion debate, so we need to be prepared for that.

  73. #431889
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:17 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Well, now that the NYT has made this story front page news, the nutbags are already commenting about poor parenting skills, family values, Republican hypocrisy, etc.

    Didn’t know they were so concerned about those issues since in their world it’s a free-for-all attitude with just about anything.

  74. #431898
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:21 pm, torabora said:

    I’m shocked the pregnancy (s) weren’t blamed on Bush :0!

    I am beginning to think that The Daily Kos is a Cheney/Rove false flag operation.

  75. #431901
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pm, PatriotRider said:

    Like I said, the left flush their mistakes. No hipocricy there.

  76. #431902
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pm, srhoades said:

    Well, now that the NYT has made this story front page news, the nutbags are already commenting about poor parenting skills, family values, Republican hypocrisy, etc.

    Actually it is more proof of the hyper-sexualizaion of society — and that it can affect even the best families. Thanks “Bratz”, Jamie Lynn, Britney and Jessica.

  77. #431904
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pm, Ulthwithian said:

    … have these people ever had a child?

    Being male, I of course have never given birth to a child. But when my son was born, his mother did not look 8 months pregnant a week after the birth, much less… um, excuse me, Trig is how old again?

    Take this to heart when speaking with liberals. If you try to compromise with them, they simply attack harder. And even if you don’t try to compromise with them, they will intimate that you are, and then attack harder.

  78. #431921
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:30 pm, PatriotRider said:

    I’m not voting for Sarah for her parenting skills I’m doing it because of her shooting skills. :)

  79. #431931
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:32 pm, gco said:

    …who can’t succeed at instilling in her own girls simple core values such as respecting your body…

    Bristol isn’t getting an abortion, so the Palins have had some success in teaching her to respect her own body-and a new life. And, how have they failed in instilling these values in all of their girls? Are they all pregnant?

  80. #431933
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:33 pm, rambler said:

    The dems have continued on to rabid dog mode – attacking anything and everything out of despiration. Have these people ever been gracious in their entire lives????? They don’t win or lose graciously. Everything is just one excuse after another with not a mention of personal responsibility. Everything has to be their way, their view and their interpretation. They change direction and strategy faster than a ping-pong ball, never seeing how stupid it all is. They were out manuvered on this one and now they are spinning out of control. Despiration makes for more gaffes. Just waiting for the BIG gaffe, which exposes all the hidden slime to the American public.

  81. #431944
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:36 pm, SixDegrees said:

    It is unbelievably surreal that this dirtbag Kossack rumor has to be debunked.

    It’s fairly unbelievable that you are bothering to debunk such obvious dreck. Yet you continue to plaster it all over your site in the most prominent position.

    If you don’t like it, don’t participate. “Reporting” on what the tiny, lunatic fringe is slavering about on a minute-by-minute basis is pointless. Just ignore them

    I’d much rather see Gov. Palin’s statement highlighted in the prime position. It is forthright and admirable, and puts the entire matter in exactly the right perspective – WHATEVER their daughter chooses, she has her family’s full support, and thank you for NOT turning this into a media circus.

    How about emphasizing the positive, instead of amplifying the opposition’s negatives?

  82. #431949
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:37 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Imagine how the Obama campaign would react if the “stalker” blogs went after one of his daughters on a private matter.

    The left did it with Bush, they are doing it now.

    When Edwards was out sleeping with his aides, they sat on the story to “protect the family”.

    Awesome double standard.

    I wish Bristol the best in what must have already been a major crisis in her young life. Imagine being a 17 year old undergoing that kind of scrutiny, especially with the left and their lack of decency in covering the story.

    Libs are despicable.

  83. #431964
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:40 pm, TimothyJ said:

    10 years ago, my daughter told us that she was pregnant by her then boyfriend. Three months after Ashley was born, they got married. What a wonderful young man he is now that he has grown up. And my granddaughter just lights up my life. Mistake of a baby–not on your life.

  84. #431976
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:43 pm, JohnnyD said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:37 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Libs are despicable.

    I wholeheartedly agree with your enire post but it boils down to this in the end.

    Nothing else needs to be said….

  85. #431996
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pm, dakine said:

    Interesting early focus group testing by Frank Lutz here:

    http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/focusedthe_sequel.html

    Also, just to offer up some differing opinions (I stated on another thread that I believe this to be a very poor choice) regarding the Palin choice, here’s a contra take on NRO:

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDQ5ZmE5NjU4MmRlOWUyZjM0MTBlYWY2NWEwZDczNjg=

  86. #432011
    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:52 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pm, dakine said:

    You don’t read Hot Air much, do you?

    Old, old news.

  87. #432048
    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:02 pm, Bruce said:

    It’s fairly unbelievable that you are bothering to debunk such obvious dreck. Yet you continue to plaster it all over your site in the most prominent position.

    Very true. I’ve resisted the temptation to follow the pack and post this crap on my blog. I just won’t do it, because in my mind – doing so gives it credence. There are plenty of other really critical issues to blog about than even mentioning this non-issue. I won’t give them the satisfaction of trying to refute obvious fabrications to a bunch of moral and mental degenerates.

  88. #432057
    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:04 pm, 29Victor said:

    None of us have any clue

    I like that, it’s the first honest thing I’ve read at dkos.

    It should be their motto:

    The Daily Kos
    None of us have any clue

  89. #432078
    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:11 pm, Olaz said:

    The moral relativism going on in here is sickening. pot/kettle, mirror, glass houses and all that.

  90. #432116
    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:24 pm, dakine said:

    Purdue, you are correct…I do not. Sorry I haven’t kept up. I look forward to further enlightenment from you in other threads.

  91. #432125
    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:26 pm, Devil's Advocate said:

    This is the Sarah Palin Chaos Effect.

    She’s not a rich business Republican. She has a middleclass family. So the Democrats cannot figure out how to attack her.

  92. #432186
    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:50 pm, Laree said:

    Goldwater Knight #110

    I was thinking along the lines of logorrhoea, it effects the frontal lobe.

    The need to complicate the simple, and they must explain their points, in the most convoluted terms, when there is a much simpler way to express their point.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logorrhoea

    I have ran into a classic case of this with a troll. The troll’s post, were remarkable in that they appear to be trying to communicate, and obscure the meaning of their communication simultaneously.

  93. #432194
    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:53 pm, emjem24 said:

    My God, these people have really fallen off the deep end. You mean to tell me that Sarah Palin is that desperate for power that she would fake her own pregnancy to protect her daughter and say that her grandson is actually her son? How crazy can you get?

    Every time I think these Kos kids can’t get any weirder, I see rumor garbage like this. :sad:

  94. #432199
    On September 1st, 2008 at 2:54 pm, Laree said:

    Logorrhoea

    Also known as verbal diarrhea. From Above Link.

    My question would be is Kos a beacon for these folks?

    Logorrhoea as a form of mental illness

    Logorrhoea is a language disorder present in a variety of psychiatric and neurological disorders[1] including aphasia[1], localised cortical lesions in the thalamus[2][3], or most typically in catatonic schizophrenia.

    Examples of logorrhoea might include talking or mumbling monotonously, either to others, or, more likely, oneself. This may include the repetition of particular words of phrases, often incoherently. The causes for logorrhoea remain poorly understood, but appear to be localized to frontal lobe structures known to be associated with language. As is the case, for example, in emotional lability in a wide variety of neurological conditions, other symptoms take priority in clinical management and research efforts.

    Logorrhoea shouldn’t be confused with pressure of speech, which is characterised by the “flighty” alternation from topic to topic by tenuous links such as rhyming or punning[4]. Logorrhoea is a symptom of an underlying illness, and should be treated by a medical professional. Several of the possible causes of logorrhoea respond well to medication.

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