Obama defends his superior record of experience
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Just off the top of my head, here’s one.
Not the worst, but you get the idea.
The Dems are excited about the polls today. (shhh!, don’t tell them that the polls and exit polls had Gore then Kerry winning in 2000 and 2004). Let them go on thinking, in their superior elitist ways, that they are ahead.
Oh yes, don’t forget, Obama was a community organizer and can organize communities, whatever that means.
He voted “present” most of the time he was in the Senate (the rest of the time he was vetted on Oprah and running for President so he could organize your community).
I want just the opposite. I’m hoping against hope she doesn’t get removed from the ticket. I’m rooting for her to stay right where she is, all the way to November!
No, I’m saying that being an office manager doesn’t qualify you to be president.
The point of that quote, my friend, is that Dukakis was wrong: the election in 1988 wasn’t about competence, it was about ideology. Same in 2008, and McCain desperately pushing the “executive experience” angle today will bring him the same success Dukakis enjoyed in 1988.
Two sides of the same conservative coin — and Palin brought in to make the parallels even more frightening.
But not so competent that she can keep her staff from illegally browbeating Alaska state officials to fire her brother-in-law, and obtaining confidential records.
Probably older than you, you impertinent pup!
I trust your judgment on lunch. I trust Obama’s judgment on Middle East policy. I trust Sarah Palin’s on caribou hunting.
You are at least partially wrong, while you raise valid points. The campaign is a test of stamina, intelligence and ability to lead and persuade, all important. At the same time, no one really gets a chance to start a world war — fortunately, a slight possibility these days — until they’re sworn in.
But Obama essentially submitted a job application and passed the interview with the people who had to hire him. Palin has done little beyond answer a few questions for a lawyer and make John McCain happy.
How she stands up over the next 60 days will be telling.
Why not relevant?
You mean msnbc.com?
That’s because you should be attempting to understand principles and history, not people.
There is an understandable correlation to Obama and Hitler (except Obama smokes and Hitler didn’t):
1. Socialists
2. Demagogues
3. Vicious and sleazy attacks on opponents by their people
4. Attempts to shut down media that reports unfavorable information/investigations
5. Blind devotion by supporters
6. Culture of Death (abortion, euthanasia, eugenics)
And I’m sure I’m missing others…
He’s ignoring the 800 pound gorilla that just walked into the room. But that is his misfortune.
Look at the competition he had. Al Gore and John Kerry? We ain’t talking about a mensa club here.
I think the Dems made a huge mistake with Obama. He would have been a formidible candidate in 2012. Get his ticket punched and build some tangible accomplishments.
I think perhaps that is what they were thinking – give Barry some exposure in 2008 and keep him warm for 2012 or 2016. I believe, and I could be wrong here, that his success surprised everyone, including Obama. He’s in it now, so there’s no backing out. But the problem is that rather than build his credibility by a run this year as a Democratic candidate, a loss as the Democratic nominee will relegate him to the Gore and Kerry heap.
You mean the corrupt cop who used his tazer on his own 10 year old son? Palin is a monster for firing him!!! /sarc off
Dude, isn’t this issue still under investigation? Geez. So much for waiting until the evidence is in, and weighed by a jury.
Oops! Sorry. I forgot I’m talking to a lib.
There ya go BAL, another.
See, this site is rife with them.
I compare Obamas political TACTICS and Hitlers polictical TACTICS all the time. Not the men. Alot can be learned by applying history to the current situation. Why shouldn’t we? The dems have been doing it since 1999.
and I managed $34 million in personal services contracts for the DOD does that count??
Well, because he was the one that said it.
Riddle me this, Chaps: If Palin is such a detriment to McCain as his VP choice, why wouldn’t the left be treating her selection as a blessing (like we are doing with Biden)?
Instead, the left is pissing their pants (and fabricating smears) to marginalize this supposed boon to Obama’s chances.
The way lgm argued it, she is more of a detriment to McCain on the ticket than off, so I simply asked why they were trying to get her off the ticket with that being the case.
Got it? Hope so.
I should say not the men or thier beliefs. Hitler was a political genus and increadable speaker but a complete genocidal wack job in every other way. He should have been put down in 1933. Comparing his and other budding dictators actions and tactics does not mean you think obama is the same as them. In fact it is a good way to prevent america electing a dictator. Nothing wrong in that.
If this dolt is serious, then he’s even dumber than I first expected. On the other hand, I guess if serving in the German army as a low ranking enlisted soldier can qualify one to become Chancellor, then running a political campaign can serve as qualifications for becoming president. This is insane.
Other than Nixon and Reagan, I can’t think of too many examples of somebody winning the election after losing prior contests. Barack is still pretty young. I wouldn’t mind seeing him run again in 2016, 2020 or 2024. 2012 just seems too soon, and I’m sure Hillary will try again. I think he’ll win this election though, because he will really produce record turnout. I’m predicting a close victory(2-3 % pts).
yeh I saw this earlier today and thought – how pathetic that Obama was proving his relevance against the opposition’s VP pick.
I also just had a terrible thought. The MSM continues to absolutely hound the Palin family till Sarah Palin drops out. And that was their purpose, not for news stories, but because they knew that if they just kept up the heat, Palin would eventually drop out, and The One would have a chance.
Study your political history and you will understand. Refer to question D3. That answer meant nothing until last Friday. Now it means everything.
Obama has this week to win the election. Why do you think the frantic salvo of missiles towards Alaska? If Obama and his MSM worshpers fail, he’s toast.
I was a Junior Safety Crossing Guard in 4th grade. Once I was actually in charge of the other fourth grader who was also a Junior Safety Crossing Guard. I just remembered that, after considering the barely-there resume of the Democratic nominee.
Dang. I wonder where I’d be now if I would have remembered to to include that on any of my own job resumes.
With all these leftists telling us that B. Hussein Obama is highly experienced because he’s running a campaign, one can only wonder why they’re not running the very most experienced man for the job by their own definition of experienced:
Karl Rove
I’ll wait for a coherent answer……..
Duhbama deliberately, prudently and cautiously (hahaha I can’t type that without laughing) picked an elitist, pompous blowhard and Washington insider with a severe case of foot in mouth disease.
McCain picked a tough, conservative working class state governor (executive experience anyone?) who helps her husband on his fishing boat on her days off (small business experience and calloused hands anyone?) who owns guns (the calibers necessary to hunt moose and caribou would break Obambi in half if he fired one)
Deliberate, prudent and cautious are just code for pansy. That isn’t what we need. We need a pres and vp that are tough enough to make hard decisions and stand up to belligerent tyrants without blinking.
mistressjustice: For americas sake, I hope not. This man has signs of a budding dictator. I will never support him because he will push a radical leftist agenda into everyones lives. Look at his history not his words.
I think they are. I know I am. I think there was some initial shock and concern, but that seems to have quickly subsided.
I would have been afraid of what Romney brought in terms of economic expertise and the ability to tilt Michigan toward McCain. Pawlenty…I didn’t have an opinion of one way or the other, like everyone else apparently. Ridge, pro-choice, but could carry PA.
The only pick I think I would have liked better from an electoral standpoint would have been Lieberman. You all dodged a bullet on that one.
Not all change is good.
These polls show Obama having gained between 2 and 8 points since before the convention began, or an average of 4.4 points. Although this is slightly below the average convention bounce of 6 points,
He bounced 4.4 points, not 6.5. Go to 538’s homepage.
Don’t worry. When asked by a McCain staffer, if she could stand up to what was coming towards her and her family, knowing about her child and her daughter’s pregnancy she responded,
“Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick”
Why don’t you, oh learned one, just humor me and give me the quick and dirty?
goldwater, I guess it depends what source you use, a major issue I have with polling.
Nope, don’t see it. Ego, I see, but that’s okay with me.
Besides,
Everyone is a…….
Ahhh….interesting. I was going by the number sonofdy provided. Hadn’t seen that post.
I’ll take 4.4. That is an awesome site in general btw, for anyone with the chops to understand all of the statistical analysis they go through. I myself do not, but they also try to present the data in pretty easy to read format.
Oh i see, the difference is between the begining and end percentages. I stand corrected. 4.4% it is.
Yup, keep riding that dead caribou and see how far it gets you.
If there is one state Governor I would trust with international issues I would pick the Governor of Alaska. Alaska is an international traffic and commerce hub dealing with Asian and European companies.
I do. I see very dangerous trends here we never saw with any other candidate.
here are a few facts, i hope i don’t befuddle our liberal friends too much:
alaska’s operating budget fy2009 is 11 billion dollars.
alaska’s gross state production is 39.9 billion dollars.
alaska has 15,000 state government employees. sarah palin is their boss.
so, unless obama is running a campaign with 12 billion dollars and over 15,000 employees then no, it is not fair to equate obama’s campaign experience (which he has more of than actually representing his constituents as senator, i’ll give him that) with palin’s tenure as governor, and those of you who are trying are exceedingly desperate.
When is SNL coming back? I can’t wait to see how the handle Palin.
they handle
actual alaska figures.
Tina Fey as Palin would be awesome.
I’m still keeping my Jindal/Bachmann ‘12 T-Shirt in the top drawer, but hoping I won’t need it.
(And I like Palin…so far)
I suspect that Senator Obama has 100% more experience working and being friends with a terrorist then Governor Palin.
Obama / Biden ‘08
‘Um and Dumber’
Interesting that you bring up the paper trail discussion. So Palin’s is thin, and Osama Obama has written two books about himself. Can’t argue.
But when we talk about the paper trail The Messiah hasn’t left — Illinois State Bar application, medical records, writings from the few minutes of his law career, dealings with Ayers, Rezko, et. al. — the picture begins to change.
Palin appears to be completely honest, even about matters that simple human decency would declare off-limits.
Based on the record (as much as the MSM has allowed us to see) Obama is at best a liar and distorter/hider of facts about himself, at worst is trying to cover up history, associations and thoughts that could prove to be dangerous for the nation.
For anyone but a blind and stupefied leftist, those questions should be answered before the election.
Based on the available evidence, there is no rational choice but McCain and Palin.
That show’s still around? I thought Tina Fey left 2 years ago.
All I want to know is what Sig Hansen thinks of her. That is how I will base my vote entirely.
Lemme see: when you run a campaign, if you over spend you just start charging for tickets and yard signs or go back to the dirty politicians that brought you this far with your hand out.
When you run one of the *58* states, you have real lives in your hand who depend on you making fiscally smart decisions so that they can feed their families and continue their businesses. You have to stay within the budget because there is no more money.
Someone needs to remind Barry that Palin is Governor of the Great State of Alaska which has just a few more than 2,500 employees. She was elected, not anointed, based on her experience not a nice speech she gave.
Unlike Michelle Obama, you don’t see Sarah Palin complaining on how hard it is to send the kids to private school, pay for piano lessons and send off to camp. Palin doesn’t have a husband making big bucks either! Palin’s salary doesn’t match Michelle’s but then Palin took Michelle’s suggestion and went into government work for the people!
Oh they make me SICK with their arrogance and stupidity.
Sig Hansen thinks she is a deadly catch – deadly for the dems that is..
chapoutier said:
Yes, great site; thanks much.
My own view is that his inexperience is going to make it go the other way. He has the form, and he needed some time to build the substance. In addition, I do not think the Kos nuts are helping him one bit, and all their vitriol will be heaped on Obama.
The Battleground poll is a non-partisan poll used by both parties and constructed by both parties. For years question D3 has asked, “‘When thinking about politics and government, do you consider yourself to be… Very conservative, somewhat conservative, moderate, somewhat liberal, very liberal, unsure/refused?”
The answer in August 2008, which is CONSISTENT with the figures for the last six years is 60% of the respondents call themseleves conservatives.
When Republicans run as conservatives and energize their base and conservative independents (like me) they win. They win, because they win the ground game. Conservatives are the front line toops in that contest. Conservatives are not excited by Palin. They are electrified. We do not even need Hillary voters. Not now.
To my original point. Strategically, Obama is toast unless he figures out a way to eliminate Sarah Palin. That’s not likely.
I hope you’re right flyoverman!
and check out this rebut from the guys at Powerline
Sure, one of the first signs is bully tactics to supress critics, we have seen this already from the Obama campaign
i’m glad cooper asked the question, but why didn’t he attempt to correct obama when he went on and on about her mayoral experience when she is CURRENTLY THE GOVERNOR??? oh wait, right. i forgot for a second about how if he had corrected the obamessiah the o’bots would have gone bonkers and he would be labeled a racist.
Let’s see: McCain is by far the most ready to lead of the two top-of-the-ticket candidates.
Next, we see that Palin has 14 years of public leadership 14 experience to Obama’s 11. And a solid majority of hers were executive experience. Obama has none. He seems most famous for championing infanticide. And before he got into office, he chose to work closely with ACORN, a corrupt group HEAVILY associated with many counts of vote fraud.
If “community organizing” is a precursor to POTUS…then Palin wins hands down for managing a household, children, a husband AND a full time job.
Plus, Palin has CONVICTION about what she does. Obama is busy trying to think of the “lawyer” answer to everything–taking too much time to answer questions because he doesn’t really know an answer, while showing no depth for this job.
Two points:
1) I agree that in the past conservatives have won the ground game, but I don’t think they can assume they will have that same advantage this year.
1)Electrified voters are not going to do much good if the apparatus is not there to harness that. And from all indications, McCain has not invested nearly as much in the key states. He has put his money into almost all advertising.
But actually, I will concede that the Palin pick may hurt McCain in the polls, but help the ground game, like you contend it will. And that is an interesting take, one I hadn’t considered. Whether the latter will offset the former remains to be seen.
Thank goodness!
Gee, BL you almost always refer to Sarah Palin, The Governor of Alaska as an “office manager”. Is that some kind of sexist slight or do you refer to all governors that way?
BL is your garden variety racist, she’s only sexist during election years.
And this is what is written about a sitting President.
Imagine what mj could have called Mr. Bush if he had perjured himself and been impeached.
Ha! we haven’t even had our Convention yet and you guys have it all figured out…. lmao.
Palin is going to give us a huge bump unlike Biden.
I’d wish you good luck but, isn’t going to happen, you Dems need all the luck you can muster now and I’m not going to hand any out.
It’s Killin em and
I love it!!
McCain/Palin 08′
put that in obamas crack pipe and smoke it!
No, just her.
I’m suggesting the modest amount of executive experience claimed by Palin does not particularly qualify her for the job and, more than that such skills are at best a secondary consideration in the selection of a Vice President. This is a red herring (OK, Alaska salmon) thrown out by a McCain campaign that’s seeing one of the few issues on which it has an advantage — experience — evaporate. In fact, neither you nor McCain nor anyone else in this discussion cares about her experience. You like her politics, which is fine and fair, but the “experience” is slender, at best.
I might consider substituting “bean counter” or “chief bureaucrat” for “office manager,” but the thought is the same.
Umm, I was just wondering…
How much executive experience and foreign affairs expertise did that great statesman, Howard Dean, have when he ran and was a front runner for the Democratic presidential candidacy.
Susan Estich estimates ONE THIRD of Hillary supporters will go with McCain-Palin.
Argh, Estrich!
This just in:
“Conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly lashed out Tuesday at the McCain campaign after it suddenly canceled an appearance by vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin at an event sponsored by Schlafly’s Republican National Coalition for Life.”
Interesting. Could it be that they just don’t want the Guv to overshadow Loserman; because they trust her on her own (despite all the experience)….or that they’re beginning the slow and painful process of renting a bus under which to throw her?
Hmmmm…..
Throwing people under the bus is your Messiah’s SOP. Stop projecting.
And if Estrich knew how to count votes Mike Dukakis would have been president.
She’s also a bit of disgruntled feminist type, having gone toe-to-toe with Mike “John McCain has been — what’s the word? — lying” Kinsley over the presence of female voices on the LA Times editorial page, and thus may be less than objective on matters such as this.
Counting votes had nothing to do with Dukakis’ defeat.
I love how you people dismiss your own side’s opinions (or observations) when it fails to support your bias.
That’s only because he counts Starbucks and these as field offices.
My first thought was, why would this news outlet ask the presidential candidate to compare his experience to that of a vice presidential candidate?
Did I miss the news flash that Obama is now #2 on the Dem ticket and Biden is #1??????
Obama has always been #2. I just didn’t think it stacked that high.
Also, if campaigning qualifies as “executive experience”, Sarah Palin still is more qualified the BHO.
Superior record of experience giving used car salesman speaches to a bunch of gullible sheeple.
chapoutier, please allow me to provide another lesson in statistics.
The margin of error that these surveys disclose is NOT an indication of sampling ERROR. It is merely an indication of predictive error based on sample SIZE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value
In other words, the survey would be accurate within the percentage points mentioned IF the sample was a PERFECT representation – which we all know is never the case.
I really wish surveys would state, “Accuracy Limited to X.X%.”
*Please note that I’m not saying that you used the term incorrectly – I know you were merely quoting and that you made no specific reference to the margin of error. I’m just trying to proactively help.
Take a break from the BO BS and laugh here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4&feature=related
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I read all these comments with apparent liberals flailing to overcome the obvious.
Sarah Palin has more experience than Barack Obama. Period. Spin it anyway you want with sophomoric debating skills but the answer will be the same.
Sarah Palin has more experience than Barack Obama.
You can call a rock a rose all day and it still won’t be a rose. The whole point of this thread is that Obama was attempting to undercut Palins OBVIOUS advantage in experience. More years as an elected official, more years of Executive level experience, more years as actual Commander in Chief, etc.
It’s amazing to me that after all the big buildup of the Messiah, that John McCain can so glibly find a woman who nobody knows that is more quaified to be POTUS than Obama. Incredible! Just like that. All the hype, all the hysteria, all the hope, all the tinglyness, gone. Like a wisp of smoke.
There will be many who will cling to the Obama image that has now been thoroughly rebutted with such a simple VP pick. I assume they do so because they like Liberal Government policy better than Conservative Policies. But to argue the experience factor is futile.
Lets face it. The Obama is not so special. There are many in this country that have charisma, speaking ability, etc (see clerics in Churches across the country that do that on a weekly basis).
His arrogance was shot down with a single arrow. Now he has to resort to trickery and lies to build himself up. Mayor of Wasilly! Do you think he forgot she is Governor. No. He lied in order to perpetuate his invinceability. There was no other way around it. He has been had.
Hopefully, now we can get back to debating issues and solutions to those issues. And no, telling everyone you will solve all problems and give everyone free housing, jobs, medical care, peace, prosperity, etc is just plain BS political speech.
How will you pay for it? What happens when you transfer wealth? Does productivity improve, decline? Does spending by the government work better than spending by individuals? How will the economy be affected by various liberal or conservative policies? Are there other countries we can look at for ideas on Government run health care, entitlements, jobs, economies?
Those are the real questions. Not who has more experience. The answer to that question is obvious. Palin wins hands down. McCain beats Obama on experience. Thats a fact Jack. Who cares? Its their policies that will matter.
Corkie,
Isn’t it standard operating procedure to weigh the results to account for any deviance in sampling?
Or at least I think that is what you were getting at. Obviously you know more about this than the average bear (HAH! Get it! Average!).
I ran for student body president in junior high. Next stop 1600 Penn. Ave. Hey, I’m qualified. I made buttons and posters and everything.
No, it’s only standard to report the minimum error based on sample size.
In other words, I could conduct a poll by calling all Republicans. The results might indicate 85% for McCain and 15% for Obama. As long as I took enough samples, I would be correct to indicate that the Margin of Error is a mere 4.5% (or even smaller).
The “Margin of Error” provides no indication of my sampling technique. It merely provides information regarding the size of my sample.
On September 2nd, 2008 at 4:51 pm, BemusedLib said:
Note that the hive-mind forgets the 11-year old son that was tasered by his father and state trooper. Note that the hive-mind forgets the State Trooper’s drunk driving violations. Hive-mind spews the entire list as if it is a “collective fact.”
In other words – “we ALL (here in the hive-mind) recognize that these things are beyond dispute.”
Hive-mind, you fail to persuade or demoralize those innoculated against you.
We’re laughing at your “superior intelligence.”
# 205, you forgot that both Hitler and BO can fill up huge stadiums/areas with huge #s of of people, including thousands and thousands of Germans. The difference is that I think Hitler actually wrote his own speeches, and Hitler was also a vegetarian. But they both were allegedly for the people (Hitler built roads, introduced people’s car, I think the VW bug which libs love, etc.) and both try to force their views on others (like Hitler trying to get people to smoke and brainwashing germans to become part of a murdering regime while BO trying to institute a 1984 type of society where he controls the media, etc.). BO is also soooo similar to the communists in my former neck of the wood. I grew up in communism, and most democrats, especially BO, sound very similar to the communists in Russia and Easter Europe. Their ridiculous promises that never pen out while they enrich themselves and build huge beaurocracies that only benefit politicians.
correction: I meant Hitler tried to get people NOT to smoke.
The photo of Obama with his hand gently at own his throat is fitting; he likely often wants to choke his inner dummy to keep it from saying something. That’s why we hear ‘uh, er, and ah’ out of him so frequently. His lack of center — genuine moderate life experience — shows most when he is away from the teleprompter and he can’t handle the question or issue.
The tell is he mentally searches for the talking point that will work. When it is not there, he must say something and foolishly does. When “outside the box” is him lost, his first instinct is to sniff for the cardboard and it shows.
Make that: The photo of Obama with his hand gently at his own throat is fitting..