Obama defends his superior record of experience
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Shouldn’t this practice be called “Obamics”?
Anyone notice that angry libs who talk about Palin’s current tenure as governor somehow downgrade it to one year?
I’m thinkin’ the general rule here is to round off to the higher number when it’s above the halfway mark, not the other way around. I guess they didn’t quite grasp that in elementary school.
Regardless, she’s been governor now for 18 months…not 12.
On September 2nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm, BemusedLib said:
You’re right, Palin wins the office manager contest. So what? I believe it was Mike Dukakis who was taunted by the Republicans for saying that “this election isn’t about ideology, it’s about competence.” and “Barak has vision, he has experience on the foreign policy committee, he thinks deeply and well about the issues that affect us and he has been tested by a grueling process.”
And Barack has no competence. He has less than 1/2 year working in the Senate and has not accomplished anything. His vision will turn the U.S. into another third world country. He only thinks deeply when the teleprompter is working correctly.
PBoilermaker;
uhhh, perhaps, uhhhhm but that decision is uhhhhbove my payscale.
That’s only the case when they admit she is, in fact, a governor. Most are still referring to her as mayor of a small town with a bible-clinging, gun toting population that varies between 300 and 9,000.
thirteen28 said (#26):
Trash talk is part of any good competition, but you should check the polls sometimes.
PKAmmoTroop said (#30):
And Obama’s campaign is bigger than Palin’s government. Moreover, he built it from scratch. She moved in & has managed not to break it.
Bucklee said (#37):
So far, the only Presidential thing either McCain or Obama has done is pick a VP. Obama did a better. He was deliberate, prudent, cautious.
Lets stop trying to use logic and relevant facts on lgm and like-minded commenters. Lets use their liberal-logic and irrelevant facts. Palin is qualified because she is the governor of the largest state in the union.
I thought running for president makes one presidential.
That would make it two things Obama has done, right?
So what does Plouffe do?
ajmontana: McCain/Palin 08′
Palin/Malkin 12′
Well then, if Obama is spending more than $9 billion on his presidency, then he is totally an irresponsible idiot.
Buy the way LGM, that’s the budget for Alaska. And Palin’s state is slightly smaller than Delaware. Oh yeah, one big difference. She RUNS Alaska. Biden just siphons from it.
On September 2nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm, sonofdy said:
I don’t know, you were the one comparing executive experience to being an office manager. Not me.
What?!
it is estimated that the 2007 Alaska budget was the 32nd biggest in the nation at $5.5 billion dollars in expenditures
Fellow posters: After a weekend of endless sexist attacks on Sarah Palin that were universally distateful, may I have a moment to retort Senator Obama is an equally tasteless fashion.
Senator Obama, you brag that you have managed a larger organization than Governor Palin. You seem to forget that an orgainzation’s size does not matter. It’s how you use the organization.
Typical liberal view of government. I apologize for this tasteless retort, but now I feel so much better.
Are you sure? The Alaska government has 25,000 full timers. Look up how many Obama has hired.
to quote the great homer simpson “d’uh”
I don’t understand Obama sometimes. The guy runs a masterful campaign to win over the assumed nominee Hillary, then has done nothing but blown it since then. This experience question has really thrown him for a loop (notwithstanding McCain’s near forfeit of the high ground on the issue with the Palin pick).
With the public opinion on the direction of the country, the president and the vice president, why doesn’t Obama hit back with something along the lines of, “How has ‘experience’ benefited us for the past 8 years” continuing with, “I simply don’t offer the kind of Bush/Cheney/McCain experience that has destroyed this country.” This would be red-meat to middle America, but the Obama campaign really has let the GOP define the narrative of him – and more amazingly fights the narrative through the GOP’s prism (selecting Biden as VP anyone?).
This election is Obama’s to lose, and he’s doing a damn good job of it.
UH-bama completely ignored Palin’s experience as governor. He has the audacity to compare his experience running a political campaign to that of someone running a state. When you run a campaign, you are dictator of that campaign. There is no need to compromise. There are no checks and balances of power. There are not traditions to uphold or corruption to uncover. A presidential candidate sets his own rules.
Does UH-bama plan on running the country like he runs a campaign?
The funny thing is they have more “facts” where that one came from.
When the “facts” run out, they hold competitions to pick the best insulting names for the bottom of the opposing ticket.
They are against “distractions”, too, because distractions don’t help Michelle Obama’s kids.
And she also has about 15,000 employees. I wonder why the Saint of Saints needs such an over-bloated campaign. LGM, there are many polls right now and your guy should be way out in front, but depending on which one you read he is either barely ahead, tied or behind McCain.
Well, looks like Obama is on the defensive all of a sudden.
Well, if the libtards weren’t so concerned about other kinds of “bumps”, maybe they would be ahead.
How can I possibly vote for O’bama when he constantly reminds me of Basil Fawlty from the British comedy sitcom “Fawlty Towers”. When he is trying to explain his way out of some moronic situation it’s always “well, uh, like, uh, uhhhhhhhhh, you see it was like, uh, uh, no what I meant was, uh, uh, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. . . . then he faints dead away. I just keep waiting for O’bama to drop and hit the floor.
I wish I was a fly on Hillary’s wall just about now. I bet she’s rolling her eyes with that “I told you so” look on her face towards Obama.
Yep, when you’re losing and a liberal, you either call your opponent names or make $#!+ up.
And this explains why Obama supports completely the most failed socio-political ideas. Socialism, marxism, communism, collectivism (and the rest) have NEVER worked anywhere.
I do have a question though. Which issues is it that Obama has thought about deeply and what exactly is his experience on foreign policy?
Except he is ahead in the polls…we could still be Screwed ‘08.
Good! he’s toast anyway…. ha!
wait for the debates, you thought saddleback was bad for your boy….. rofl! those two clowns are going to need therapy after the election is over.
Gov. Palin obviously doesn’t directly supervise the GMD (Ground Missile Defense) section of the Alaska National Guard, but it is a part of her state’s Guard mission (defending against ICBM’s from North Korea).
I wonder if Obama would really like to get into how his neighborhood organizing, state
senatordebater and U.S.Senatordebater decision-making responsibilities compare to a state governor’s responsibilities?My favorite example: running the offense and calling the plays as her school’s championship basketball team’s point guard gave her more EXECUTIVE experience than Obama and Biden have combined.
Don’t know if many folks realize this, but as far as natural disaster threats go, Alaska ranks at the top of the list of any state. They have more earthquakes than Caifornia, get the crap kicked out of them by some horrendous storms, deal with the risk of volcanic eruptions and are at the top of the list for tsunami potential.
In the hotels there are directions in every room regarding what to do in the event of earthquakes or tsunamis.
Their emergency services people are a busy bunch.
Obama is probably going to regret he invited the comparison of his disaster cred by winging a response out there
If that’s the case, at least we will go down fighting for something we actually believed in vice voting for the LOTE and feeling dirty about it.
Don’t worry. Obama actually is way ahead in these polls. See post #60. All of those came, interestingly, after the Palin pick.
N.B., I did, after posting above, find one very recent national poll that has Obama ahead. The Zogby interactive has McCain up 2 points. But of course, the Zogby interactive is considered a joke by other pollsters.
Sorry, meant one very recent national poll that has McCain ahead.
So did approximately $11 million in fundraising over the holiday weekend.
Have fun clinging to your margin of error polls for a candidate who, given his leg up with the MSM, should be leading by double digits.
So, if I’m reading this right, MichelleO has more executive experience than Baraka?
I don’t fully trust the polls.
Remember 2004? 2000?
They had Kerry and Gore in double digit leads over Bush at this time.
Good on her. She clearly energized a base that was reticent about voting for McCain. But that fundraising isn’t going to mean much after Thursday, will it?
As for clinging to my “margin of error polls, not a one that I cited fell within the margin and the only people that seem to think Obama should have a double digit lead are the Republicans trying to play down expectations.
But I will admit, Obama hit a rough patch since the middle of July. Looks like the cure was a bit o’ Palin to drive the independents and insulted Hillary supporters his way.
Nice try. You are proping up that straw man Obama threw up in a moment of haste. Obama was comparing his campaign to the size government of the city of Wasilla, totally ignoring the fact that Palin is a Governor of the State of Alaska.
See, states are usually larger than the cities within their borders. Unless you are talking about those 7 states admitted after the first 50.
As for the experience with running a campaign, well that gives you experience in….running a campaign. By that analysis, Karl Rove and David Axelrod should be on the ballot for POTUS.
Hey, Barry’s had TWO autobiographies ghost-written. Doesn’t that qualify him for the Nobel Prize in Literature?
Chap, I wouldn’t put to much emphasis on polls. Remember back on election day 2004 when all the exit polls said John Kerry was going to win? How did that work out?
LGM – how do you know McCain wasn’t those things?
Just because McCain kept a secret and the MSM is all in a tizzy over it, does NOT mean he wasn’t deliberate, prudent, and cautious. Further the fact that you appear to dislike his choice, gives me many reasons to think McCain was in fact all three of the things which you accuse him of not being.
(poor sentence I know)
Ya right
and I’d make a good brain surgeon because I played doctor with little Susie next door when I was a kid.
GEEEEEEESSS.
And the main reason they lost was ground operation. The Republicans had it and the Dems didn’t. Wanna guess who EVERYONE, including McCain’s campaign, says has the far superior one this time around?
Bemused Lib, wait….Barak has vision, and has been tested??
), you’ll have to come up with far better than that to prove your point.
“Vision” for what? And don’t say, “Vision for America”. That’s not an answer, particularly since we still don’t know what the he** he envisions, beyond taking from the so-called “rich” and giving to the so-called “poor”.
Moving on to your next point, “tested” by what? A Presidential campaign? That’s not a test and, besides, how has he “tested” any better in that than McCain? Both have won their party’s nomination.
They’re even-steven on that front. Sorry, BL (hey…those are the same initals as Bin Laden
You do realize that the Hillary supporters are getting angry at the “sexist” attacks against Palin, don’t you?
And you do realize that they want her to run in 2012, which means that Obama must lose this election, don’t you?
Most Hillary supporters will support Palin because she’s a woman. Seriously.
Since BHO’s campaign speechifyin’ now seems to be painting a McCain administration as the third Bush administration, can anybody explain to me where they get the statistic that McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time?
I mean, my understanding of the federal government doesn’t include the President having a vote in the Senate, so exactly where does that 90% number come from?
Does it mean that he has voted for 90% of the proposed legislation that the Bush administration has sent to Congress? Does it mean that the President has vetoed 10% of the bills that McCain has voted for?
And in the midst of all of those statistics, where does the “most liberal” senator come out?
I am in agreement with this regarding my thoughts on things like the media and talking heads (and by extension, polls).
Like that’s supposed to mean something? That implies that Clinton is worthy of the presidency, which she is not. Clinton doesn’t come close to the executive experience of Sarah Palin. Futher, the only reason Hillary Clinton is a senator and got the opportunity to run for POTUS is because her husband was president. Did it on her own? Don’t make me laugh. Palin, on the other hand, did do it on her own. She didn’t need to ride on anyone else’s coat-tails.
Clinton ran a bad campaign and still managed to win a majority of the states after BO supposedly had it wrapped up. BO couldn’t close the deal without the help of the special delegates.
lgm, you continue to be stuck on stupid.
I do not find Obama’s position at this point to be a very good on strategically. In terms of the “ground campaign” the conservatives have always led that effort and since Friday, they are rip, roaring and ready to have at it.
Amateurs study tactics. Professionals study logistics.
Unlike McCain, Obama writes his own books. McCains are ghosted by Mark Salter.
Actually, there’s a strong case to be made that the exit polls were pretty accurate, just that the Republicans voted late in the day (after work)…at any rate, bu the time the polls closed the exits reflected the actually results.
More to the point is the well-documented phenomenon of respondents lying to pollsters when there’s a black candidate in the race, and between 3 and five points of “support” disappearing between the time the last poll is taken the voting begins. I suspect that there will be less of that this time, but it is a factor.
Tested by 25 debates, the work of fundraising and 53 (?) primaries and caucuses. And yes, McCain has been tested as well.
By the way, have you been to Obama’s website? Anyone who doesn’t have a detailed understanding of Obama’s platform by now is either illiterate or willfully ignorant.
From Hillary is 44:
“Wasilly”? IS Obama actually making fun of the name of this town? I realize he hates small town America, but to make fun during the campaign kind of demostrates poor judgment on his part. What an arrogant elitist.
Logistically, Obama has a 3:1 lead in field offices.
Logistically, Obama has a huge Democratic voter database that he shrewdly developed over the course of the primaries. And is using that database to microtarget individuals that did not vote in the last election.
Statistically, there have been far more new voters register as Democrat than Republican across the country. Who do you think most of them voted for in the primaries?
Right. Republicans voted (after work), while the welfare recipients (Democrats) voted earlier in the day.
More reason to have the elections on a Saturday. But of course, Dems don’t want that…too many Republicans would show up.
HAH!
Atheling, are you actually citing hillaryis44 as any sort of proof of anything?
Those people are fringier than a Gerry Spence jacket.
Funny that you list those “debates” as a credit to Obama.
Who, exactly, did he debate in those “debates”? He won’t even appear on FOX for fear of being asked real questions, yet he is ready to be POTUS.
Willfully ignorant indeed.
Hillary. She won the popular vote among Dems.
There are so many issues here… I’ll just start at the top.
BemusedLib said:
So I assume you are saying Obama is not qualified to be an office manager. And you’re still going to vote for him?
Proof of Obama’s competence is not known. All we know is that he would get a good grade in public speaking class.
I’ll assume you made a typo… and meant Bush-Cheney… because last time I checked, there was no Bush-McCain Era… beyond the desperate attempt by the Obama campaign to tie Bush and McCain together for political purposes.
Also, thank you for the compliment of Mrs. Palin. Yes, it does appear that she is uber-competent. Hell.. that should fly with the gamer community too. Those of voting age anyway. Oh.. and hang in there Bemused.. you’ll be old enough to vote soon.
She will.. on National TV this week. And you clearly have no clue of what AIP was/is and what her involvement was. And her position on that bridge was that if Alaska needed it, Alaska should pay for it. It’s a shame members of the US Senate like John “The Criminal” Murtha don’t think that way.
there.. I fixed that paragraph.
Translation: His eyes are good enough to read the Teleprompter.
And what insignificant experience it was!!!
I think deeply about what I will have for lunch. So what?
Uh… we’re back to the campaign being some sort of test? Well…it isn’t.
-A test would be making a decision to have to send our military into harm’s way, knowing that some of these men and women may not come home.
-A test would be making policy decisions that will be good for some Americans and not for others. Knowing it’s the best course of action available to us. And then living with that decision.
-A test would be staring down a hostile enemy knowing that your actions could either start a world war or create world peace.
So please spare us the drama of Obama’s tough campaign.
Lets not compare Veep choices. Biden is embarrasing. And yes, he was an attempt at Political expediency by Obama… to make up for Obama’s complete lack of ability and experience on foreign policy.
Meanwhile quietly in the background
Joe Biden’s son and Brother are being sued for fraud
BlameAmericaLast said:
Well, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
There were many funny posts here, but that one made me snort some diet coke out my nose. Thanks!! Having a good day already and looking forward to the RNC. As far as polls go, you know polls always lean democrat because non-workers are usually the ones polled and they are majority democrat. Have a good day guys.
Right…if you count Florida (okay) count all of the votes cast for her in Michigan but none of them for Obama (not okay) and not count reasonable extrapolations from about 5 caucus states that do not provide raw vote totals (also not okay).
And in any case I said new voters, not all of the voters.
chapoutier:
I hope you realize that Michael Chapoutier is considered a MAVERICK in wine circles!
Sorry! It ads nothing to this thread but the thought just struck me and I had to voice it or type it.
lgm, please try real, real hard to think for yourself.
Whomever the local ACORN rep told them to vote for?
It is indeed an homage to his winery. I use this name in other places. I am surprised I have never been contacted about trademark infringement. Actually, disappointed. I am hoping to leverage giving up my screen name and email into a few bottles of free stuff.
You are rebutting the argument of your fellow dems. They are the ones who say Hillary won the popular vote. It caused a lot of “chaos” from what I hear.
Fair game libs? Or is it only okay to attack 17 year old pregnant girls?
Sure. Why not? You have my blessing.
This isn’t a story unless his son is pregnant.
or if Emu is still around they were gay lovers.
chapoutier:
You asserted that the Hillary supporters will vote for Obama because of Palin’s nomination.
I showed you a site where the Hillary supporters are NOT going to do so, and I also read over 700 comments by women who are outraged by the attacks against Palin and are going to support her.
Now you say it’s a “fringe” site? Where is your proof of that?
True. I actually like Palin from what I’ve seen so far. But it’s not in the bag by any means. We’ll never convince the nut cases. Palin has a tough job since the focus will be on her, and McCain needs to keep talking issues. The MSM is going to provide Obama the equivalent of several hundred million dollars in air time (my opinion). The nut cases are a distraction – time for McCain to step it up.
I guess that means Biden is a crappy father who should now resign from the nomination and go tend to his family’s problems. /sarc
Yep.
Just win baby. I actually hope Obama wins the election by one solitary electoral vote. The spazzing and anger would be highly amusing to me.
News Flash:
This just in: igm is just as clueless today as he was yesterday.
Now back to the movie: “IGM get’s a brain”
That’s gonna leave a mark.
ECS
conservativesRus said (#138):
The NYTimes reported that the first vetter arrived in Alaska the day before the announcement. Now there are over a dozen belatedly vetting. McCain is running on experience, yet he picked someone without experience. Either it’s important or it’s not.
I think Palin is bad for America and bad for McCain. I’m glad she makes it more likely Obama will win, but that’s the only good thing about the choice.
not bad by blog standards.
Giuliani is putting Odopey over the coals on the EXPERIENCE issue right now with Cavuto…. rofl.
Olberduffus better have on Moore to counter… ha!
this is too funny
It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!
McCain/Palin 08′
go make your big zero sign and wah wah in another zip code trolls!
Not nearly as amusing as the last 8 years of spazzing and derangement exhibited by the left after unsuccessful attempts to beat W, the “Forrest Gump of Politics”.
And I am very familiar with that site. It is ground zero for these people. Of course some will vote for McCain simply because of Palin, but the vast majority are going toward Obama. In fact the latest Gallup tracking had Obama’s support from former Hillary supporters at 81%, up from 70% before the convention.
Lunch box blue collar joe biden’s sons work for hedge funds??? I bet they just wanted to learn about poverty. It’s not a big deal to take over someone’s ownership interest and not pay for it. It’s the Biden way. Maybe his kids can squander the family fortune just like Joe’s Dad did with Grandpa Biden’s American Oil Co. riches.
Oh, you mean kind of like the spazzing and anger that the left has demonstrated for the past 8 years? Nah…we’re above that, you know, likening Bush to Hitler and that sort of grown up stuff.
Barry more experienced than the Governor, mother of 5, wife and self-made person? Muaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
That freaking Barry, he’s really a clown!
Well I hope you realize what would happen if he loses by 1! It would NOT be good!
LGM, Obamas grand “bump” from the convention was all of 6.5 points. Possiably one of the worst ever. The lefts disgusting attacks on a pregnant 17 year old girl is the lowest poltical mud slinging in history. Obamas half assed nod and wink condemnation of it shows just how low and disgusting the DNC has become.
If Palin is such a boost for Obama, then why are libs trying so desperately to remove her from the equation? Doing so is tantamount to helping McCain beat Obama.
Surely, you wouldn’t want that, would you?
Get your lies straight.
No. Actually this would be slightly above average, which historically has been 6%.
Tell me about it. I can’t believe the idiot got elected twice. Unfreakinbelievable. I’m no fan of McCain, but I’m sure he’s better than W.
The only Governor I know that has less experience than Palin is Richardson of New Mexico. He has been Governor for six years and still don’t know now to get here . Obama is a big mouth in a suit.
vicki,
What he meant to say is that Obama has had his vision tested. And the results came back, perfect 20/20 – HINDSHGHT
And Richardson wanted to be President, too.
Part of the reason she is good for Dems is because she is an easy target. Also, if she were “removed from the equation” and McCain took her off the ticket right now or she withdrew, McCain would 1) look foolish and 2) lose all of the goodwill he had built up with the conservative base and then some. Doesn’t matter who he replaced her with.
So tell me how what lgm said did not make sense.
He has to refer to her as Gov. Palin and then he turns around and compares his self against her mayor position????
and even if it were so…he still loses this issue.
But in this case he comes off as an idiot.
Yes it’s pretty stupid. Morons on this blog compare Obama to Hitler several times daily. I don’t understand some people.
Heh! Good one, Jim M.
Really? Where?
way to go Jimbo!
Imagine that. The “idiot” beat the best and brightest the libs had to offer in both elections and he did it with the MSM in the tank for the lib candidates and dead people/illegals voting en masse against him.
That’s something to be proud of.
Some might say W set the bar a little low, but your honesty is refreshing
On September 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm, chapoutier said:
Factual, but no longer relevant.