What the GOP platform says about immigration
Amid the chaos of Hurricane Gustav and the feeding frenzy over Gov. Palin, Republicans passed their party platform yesterday. I blogged last week about some of the face-saving maneuvers the GOP was taking in platform negotiations and the unsuccessful effort by a few staunch enforcement Republicans to include language expressly opposing the open-borders euphemism, “comprehensive immigration reform.” Stephen Spruiell reports on the deal-making that led to the final results and notes that on immigration, there is “a significant shift from the 2004 platform, which brushed aside conservative concerns about immigration and called for the creation of temporary worker program and a path to citizenship.”
That’s good news. Now, whether the man at the top of the GOP ticket will stay in line with the party is another matter. Juan Hernandez is still a part of his team, but there have been some assurances that Gov. Palin is on the right side of the issue. Ultimately, it will be up to grass-roots conservatives to hold all of these R’s accountable. Palin is a plus, but we haven’t forgotten McShamnesty. I’m excerpting and reprinting the relevant part of the GOP platform section on immigration here. Make sure it doesn’t remain just a bunch of words on a page:
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Immigration, National Security, and the Rule of Law
(View entire platform here)
Immigration policy is a national security issue, for which we have one test: Does it serve the national interest? By that standard, Republicans know America can have a strong immigration system without sacrificing the rule of law.
Enforcing the Rule of Law at the Border and Throughout the Nation
Border security is essential to national security. In an age of terrorism, drug cartels, and criminal gangs, allowing millions of unidentified persons to enter and remain in this country poses grave risks to the sovereignty of the United States and the security of its people. We simply must be able to rack who is entering and leaving our country.
Our determination to uphold the rule of law begins with more effective enforcement, giving our agents the tools and resources they need to protect our sovereignty, completing the border fence quickly and securing the borders, and employing complementary strategies to secure our ports of entry.
Experience shows that enforcement of existing laws is effective in reducing and reversing illegal immigration.
Our commitment to the rule of law means smarter enforcement at the workplace, against illegal
workers and lawbreaking employers alike, along with those who practice identity theft and traffic in
fraudulent documents. As long as jobs are available in the United States, economic incentives to enter illegally will persist. But we must empower employers so they can know withire are permitted to work. That means that the E-Verify system—which is an internet-based system that verifies the employment authorization and identity of employees—must be reauthorized. A phased-in requirement that employers use the E-Verify system must be enacted.
The rule of law means guaranteeing to law enforcement the tools and coordination to deport criminal aliens without delay — and correcting court decisions that have made deportation so difficult. It
means enforcing the law against those who overstay their visas, rather than letting millions flout the generosity that gave them temporary entry. It means imposing maximum penalties on those
who smuggle illegal aliens into the U.S., both for their lawbreaking and for their cruel exploitation. It means requiring cooperation among federal, state and local law enforcement and real consequences, including the denial of federal funds, for self-described sanctuary cities, which stand in open defiance of the federal and state statutes that expressly prohibit such sanctuary policies, and which endanger the lives of U.S. citizens. It does not mean driver’s licenses for illegal aliens, nor does it mean that states should be allowed to flout the federal law barring them from giving in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens, nor does it mean that illegal aliens should receive social security benefits, or other public benefits, except as provided by federal law.
We oppose amnesty. The rule of law suffers if government policies encourage or reward illegal activity. The American people’s rejection of en masse legalizations is especially appropriate given the federal government’s past failures to enforce the law.
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Sounds good on paper.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
“Ultimately, it will be up to grass-roots conservatives to hold all of these R’s accountable.” It was always going to be this, with our current candidates…we’ll have to flood the lines as before.
That’s good to know. I just hope that McCain will abide by this and not anger his base again.
La Raza will denounce this as racist in 3…2…1…
Laws and platforms are great if they are followed through and enforced.
The question begs … “Are they just words?” …
(was not easy to type that considering it has been a BO mantra) …
We know Gov. Palin and family not only “talk the talk” but “walk the walk” …
Now we get to see if McCain will do the same …
First Sarah Palin and now actual enforcement of our laws?
I feel a faint pulse in the Republican party……..Let’s get a crash cart in here!
Palin/McCain—
I WILL be watching for L_O_T_E_Y type waffling…
This is one plank in the platform that needs to stay, could it be the RNC and McCain are getting it, or just another stick in the eye? GO SARAH, twist those arms.
Let’s hope this is more than just lip service to the base.
This had better not be the equivalent of “boob bait for bubbas” used so well by the left.
I find it amussing that a group calling its self “the race” would accuse anyone of racism.
If there was a shooting war between the U.S. and Mexico, whose side do you think Juan Hernandez would be on?
If McCain doesn’t understand how upset Americans are with this invasion from the south, than we are doomed. He has the number one issue to defeat barry odumbo hussein, illegal immigration. Add a great VP pick in Palin and he should be unstoppable.
I will not give anything more than 2 cents to any repub until they can be trusted on the REAL number 1 issue in America. Illegal Immigration and Employer Enforcement and punishment.
I don’t have the book with me but in “Fleeced” by Dick Morris he discusses McCain’s illegal immigration platform (it’s not a hatchet job)it caused me to consider what my understanding of his stance is. Istill not completely onboard but at the very least McCain admitted that he was wrong on the border fence. It’s one thing to flipflop but it is quite another to admit that he was wrong in his position.
Istill = I’m still…
Just like they gloss over the term ‘ILLEGAL’ when talking about immigration to demagogue those interested in the rule of law, they completely miss the concept behind TEMPORARY worker program.
If they are given a ‘temporary’ worker program AND a path to citizenship, how is that different from a regular VISA?
I support a TEMPORARY worker program to allow non-Americans to come here to work during seasonal times when companies need workers (agriculture and such). But TEMPORARY means they are NOT Americans, they will NEVER be Americans. NEVER be allowed to vote or get social security, medicare, medicaide benefits (that currently aren’t guaranteed to bonafide Americans for generations).
TEMPORARY worker program, YES. Path to citizenship, NO (other than what is already provided to other citizens of the world who don’t have the opportunity to cross a river illegally and ‘become citizens’).
I like that quote from the platform.
Not holding my breath here McCain has had 20 some years to come to grips with this problem and has done nada. Bush has had nearly 8 years to do something and the most he has done is throw American Border Patrol agents into prison while letting the drug dealing scum go free. I’ll vote for this jacka** in hopes we can get someone better in the future. Still holding my nose.
Not to mention that the 9/11 hijackers were “illegal immigrants”(over-stayed visas). We have been so failed by our government. It used to be called moral outrage.
They are breaking the backs of working Americans. I can’t afford to use the ER for a real emergency but we give it to criminals.
STOP IT !! AND STOP IT NOW !!!!! I want my english speaking country back !!
How in the world would they enforce temporary permits? They don’t enforce obvious illegality now. I remain suspicious on this one.
You know, I didn’t see a single word about giving amnesty to drug dealers so we could lock up our border patrol agents. Am I missing something?
Mexico for sure. REmember, “Mexico First”?
As someone else said, sounds good on paper. Until I hear something similar coming out of Mccain’s mouth, I will not be voting for him. As long as Juan Hernandez is still on his campaign, I will remain skeptical that McCain has indeed gotten a new hearing aid.
Yup, in a Absolut world.
BOB, I have my steel-toed work boots on, so I’m ready!
That’s good, but McCain continually denied his amnesty bill was REALLY an amnesty bill.
Yeah, I got a whole roll of that stuff in my library, and a stack of the NYT in case I run out.
Finally some good news. Althought the title of the article leaves me scratching my head, for the most part, it’s good news.
Show me you are serious, then I will beleive you. The list is pretty good, but there is one huge item missing from the list. NO ANCHOR BABIES. They need to pass a bill clarifying the 14th amendment to stop birthright citizenship. It is a huge loop hole. See, you can deny entitelements to the invaders and cut jobs. But as long as they have an anchor baby, they will be able to skate around the “illegal alien” problem with regards to entitlements and citizenship. This must be the number 1 priority for any who are truly serious on this issue.
Exactly. All those who want “temporary worker permits” are kidding themeselves. The workers are never temporary. The only thing it would accomplish is give those who intend to stay permanently an easy way to get here. Additionally, temporay wroker programs have been tried in other 1st owrld nations. And every single one of them can not get the “temps” to leave. Some german (name?) said after WWII, “we wanted workers, what we got were human beings”. Temporary would especailly not mean temporary with birthright citizenship in effect. All the program would do is triple legal immigration levels. And I for one beleive those need to be reduced anyway.
High gas prices and the tightening economy along with the recent raides have caused illegals to leave. We just need more to leave. Mexico is already whinning about the reduction in money being sent there and having to deal with not only their original citizens returning, but also the children these people had when they lived here. While Mexico thought that the best way to deal with their illiterate poor was to send them here, now will have to face the consequences of having an unknown number return home. Many took advantage of the booming US economy. Low tide always follow high! A strong economy can’t be built by providing jobs and creating businesses which cater to those who don’t belong here. The economy will do more than our elected officials have done to control illegal immigration.
The platform has this one right!
McCain’s bill wasn’t technically amnesty, because he charges a
fineretroactive bribe of $3000 for crossing the border without permission.It is rewards, though: allowing the illegal alien to stay, under any terms, is rewarding the convicted criminal with their ill-gotten goods – an obviously insane policy that encourages more law breaking.
SOMEBODY AT THE CONVENTION PLEASE show this poll to McCain’s staff – attrition by enforcement is a winning policy among both Republicans AND Democrats. This is the ONLY poll to ever clearly offer all three choices: the House enforcement-only policy, the Senate ‘amnesty’ policy, and mass deportations. Law enforcement is a winner. LISTEN UP, McCain!
So you’re voting for Obama? Or just staying home (which is a vote for Obama)?
Gee, why would we think that? (yes I am)
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Hey Obama-What to see Bitter?
Look at your wife.
WE SHOULD BE CIVIL-WE CONSERVATIVES?
Not a chance.
walterc, I will vote for a candidate willing to uphold the laws. If McCain comes out for enforcement, it could be him. If not, it’ll be third party, which is a vote for that candidate, no one else.
I will not vote for amnesty.
If you vote for amnesty, you will get it.
There may be concerns over the actions taken in the future, but the words I see are a great foundation build on.
McCain will crap all over this.
I am still waiting to see how much influence Palin will have on J-Mac. As great as she is, the VP slot is worthless.
Is this going to be one of those “don’t do as we do, do as we write ? ”
I want to believe. I really do but i am also watching to see how many illegals are sent home from New Orleans cause they where told they would not be deported if they got on the buses. Now if they bring them back and have another bus waiting on them to deport them i will beleive we are on the right track. Meaning, we did not lie to them about deporting them for evacuating for the strorm but we are deporting them for returning. The money used on illegals could have been used on citizens or even saved to help with getting people food and shelter if they had damage due to the hurricane.
I am tired of money going to help law breakers and people who do not respect our country enough to obey our laws.
It really doesn’t matter what “The Law” Says… Neither the GOP or the Democraps intend on enforcing any Immigration law or any other law when the Perp is an Illegal. It’s a free pass to commit crime status.
Both parties are equally pandering to the citizens of every other country, but THIS one.
Would you rather vote for a guy that let’s a few slip past the door or do nothing and implicitly elect the guy that takes the door off its hinges and then reaches in your pocket to pay for everyone that’s coming in.
Stupid stays home. Idiot votes third party.
At the national level, I agree. Take a look at local levels though. Look at the anti-illegal laws Oklahoma passed. I know one county in Virginia that did something similar.
This is the reason most of them come here. They know the gravy train won’t last forever, so they make sure they have little insurance policies.
We vote in AZ today and I’m voting for every candidate Sheriff Joe supports.
OK, exactly what the hell does the GOP mean by that?
Is it:
Because if it is we already have that at least into the country.
Or is it:
Maybe they have to be drunk to draft some of the disastrous bills, amendments or compromises we see concerning our national sovereignty.
Or:
Maybe they’re just looking for something to go with the beer.
Or maybe:
They’re giving us a clue where their heads are.
Or:
Maybe their racked with guilt, their hands are tied and can’t figure out what the the hell to do, by God.
You can’t kiss everybody’s butt at once, try Conservatism, its whats for dinner, every night.
She whips off her blazer!
tosses her hair back!
It’s Caribou Barbie and THWACK!
No reform!
LOL, I couldn’t resist….
Actions speak louder than words.
It’s one thing to talk the talk. When Washington (whoever is in power) walks the walk, I will then become a believer.
It looks to me like “rack” is a typo and should have been “track.” Think Gov. Palin’s oldest son.
Seriously, knock off the crap. IMHO, you are completely wrong. Look, if you PROVE to me mcamensty will only let a few in and obummer will open the floodgates, then I may change my mind about not voting for mcamnesty. Otherwise, it is wishful thinking on your part. Ok ok, that isa ll I will say. We have argued this before but your post was waayyyy out of line.
Exactly correct. They are not stupid and know exactly how to beat the system. And it is not just illegals that abuse birthright citizneship. I met a girl from Armenia on a flight to Europe. SHe came in her 8th month just to have an American baby. And she was not shy about it. We are being taken for suckers and nobody will stop it.
Are there any quotes from Palin on immigration?
Idiots vote for amnesty, it is national suicide. If that’s what you choose, go for it. I will not assist.
Where’s the outrage over this?
As soon as the Southern Poverty Law Center reads the Republican’s platform, they will call call all Republicans nativist and racist and the RNC will be classified as a hate group.
But knowing how a pea pod thinks, Morris Dees has probably already put the RNC on his hate group list decades ago.
Fixed it.
Read between the lines. McCain was clear on his vision, which he has admitted was wrong. The GOP platform is clear on its stance. Here’s the double talk from Obama.
“The time to fix our broken immigration system is now… We need stronger enforcement on the border and at the workplace… But for reform to work, we also must respond to what pulls people to America… Where we can reunite families, we should. Where we can bring in more foreign-born workers with the skills our economy needs, we should”
— Barack Obama, Statement on U.S. Senate Floor, May 23, 2007
I stand by my statement and I respect the fact that you see it differently.
Stupid stays home. Idiot votes third party.
I was at the Boston Illegal Immigration Rally in Boston in March ’06, and also at the followup rally in Dallas later that month. I have pictures I took of the stinkin’ thing, so I can remember how I felt about McCain on those days. I can see very clearly how he was willing to be associated with Communists, PLO activists, and anarchists, not to mention all the illegals.
Vote for McCain?
Once burned, twice shy.
Or as Will Smith once said:
“Nope, no way, unh uh, fugit it.”
I was in Washington when the April ’06 march took place and I know exactly how you feel. I also know that a) Obama is worse than McCain on this issue. b) Obama is worse than McCain on every other issue. I can’t imagine what this country would be like with four years of Obama and how many more years of legal precedents being set by Obama appointees, let alone the SCOTUS. Look at all the grief we’re still getting from Clinton appointees. If I don’t do everything I can to prevent that, then I’m just as much to blame as Dumpster Muffin.
A few??? Just what is your definition of a few? I would hardly call 12 to 20 million illegal aliens a few.
He’s also admitted he would sign McCain-Kennedy if it landed on his desk.
Compared to what we’d have if BO gets in and cuts the budget of the Border PAtrol, ICE, DHS? Not to mention the fact the NAU possibility. Yes, that’s a few.
Then let’s make sure it never gets to his desk. Politicians aren’t a fire-and-forget system. They need constant monitoring.
Do you really think that a third party candidate has any chance?
Hmmm, mcamensty gets it huh? Then what has he DONE to secure the border (that is all he mentions other than amensty)? Name one thing. Nothing, that’s what. He will not secure the border. Yes, I know obummer will be even more lenient. But mccain is committed to amnesty. And I suspect his view of a “secure border’ is traffic is down 30%. I will not vote for mcamensty until he denounces amnesty altogether. No matter what names you want to hurl (and frankly they are baseless, just your opinion, not fact).
I did not want to bring up the elction again here. I wish everyone would stop this bickering in every darn thread over mccain. Would be nice to vent on the issue without getting drug into this pointless argument. Peace taco on this subject.
Hey McCain; You still don’t it.
I never said otherwise. I’ve read many of your posts and by and large, we agree.
In the end I think all of the naysayers will hold their noses and do the right thing. At least I hope they will because BO is the scariest candidate I’ve ever seen. The left has gotten crazier over the years and the potential for totalitarianism frightens me. I have no problem defending my family if things get out of hand and riots result as a few people here have suggested, but no-one can hold back troops sent to confiscate your weapons under an executive order.
Hey McCain; You still don’t get it. Your losing my vote again and your going to need every single last one of us to win.
opps; bad first post!
So what do you call somebody who sits idly by and watches it happen? Do you really think BO will be better than McCain?
Newt said it best, I’d rather argue over 20% of the issues, than 100%.
Apparently, it’s more fun to castigate me and snipe about McCain than to point out the problems with Obama.
You are indeed correct about the crazy leftisits. They are open communists/socialists/anarchists these days. Unfortunately, the gop has drifted left as well (not that far though). It more resembles the dem party of the 60′s. Anyway, this is an agree to disagree subject.
What worries me more than anything else is the mass immigration policies of today eventually crashing the system (and I mean both legal and illegal). Even gov’t agencies (Census bureau) are predicting the population of America to be 500M by 2060 and approaching 1B by end of the century. How can anyone beleive this is good for the nation? Especailly when virtually all of that growth is the result of immigriaotn from 3rd wrold countries. And when I ask someon who “loves legal immigration ” what is an appropriate population level, they start in wiht platitudes and racist name calling. That is more scary than obummer. When the citizens trudge blindly forward without considering the consequences of national policy on future generations.
On September 2nd, 2008 at 2:19 pm, John Deaux said:
A good question that I can’t answer that on a g rated forum. I can’t believe that there is anyone left who is willing to do that, personally. I am beginning to loathe them more then the Kos kids. At least the Kos kids know that they are voting for Obama because e is a socialist who resents the USA. None of them have deluded themselves in to thinking that they are doing it for “conservative principles”.
It is just plain too late for this nonsense. It is time to get off the fence and decide.
If this were a about immigration rather then MDS there would have been people going over and signing up to join FAIR.
If Obama gets in he will have no problem getting a real live amnesty program.
I don’t know you and that was not aimed toward you at all. It’s just how I feel. I haven’t ALL of your post but if you are coming out in support of Amnesty, well then, I’d call you a traitor. Supporting McCain is not that bad, he has you fooled so you’re really not supporting Amnesty but a politician that has pulled the wool over your eyes. that’s all.
They Built the Fence??????
John Deaux,
I understand what you are saying, and I see your side. Honest. Problem is, I have only one question that I must answer to my own satisfaction:
Do the ends justify the means? Voting for the lesser of two evils means still voting for evil.
In the end, I must vote for what I believe in. I realize that means I must vote third party. And yes, I do realize that person cannot possibly win. But I must give voice that I do not believe in what McCain does. This is what the founding fathers believed the way to vote. Vote as I believe, and leave the rest to God.
I know you disagree with me, John Deaux, and I know you feel this is foolish on my part. But I must do as I believe.
McCapitulate <—- CLICK
ROFLMAO, Thanks for that laugh Joy.
Done that. I also joined the minutemen and NumberUSA. I have attended anti illegal immigration rallies as well (everyone should do that and see the anger and hatred in the eyes of the invaders, it was a little scary when things escalated). So, for me, yea, its 100% about his immigration stance. And BTW, I did not bring the subject up and I am getting sick of every thread becoming a mccain argument (both sides inject it). So everyone needs to knock it off and argue when mcamensty’s POTUS bid is the subject. It is gettting really old.
McCain told the La Raza convention that he would make amnesty happen. It doesn’t matter what the “planks” are McCain will do what he wants.
Nobody has been able to come up with any comments by Palin about illegal immigration good or bad. Fairbanks and Anchorage are sanctuary cities and they need people in Alaska.
I like Palin on all the conservative issues but on this particular one I find it stunning that there is nothing in the blogesphere.
Illegal immigration has been relegated to the back burner for this election because none of the talking heads have had the guts to bring it forward. Now that the pansya$$ed GOP has expanded their plank on the side of the law who in the media will challenge the big four on the issue?? NONE–watch and see!!!
AT some point in the near future we will all be on the phone and faxes again to stop amnesty no matter who gets in.
John McCain has not changed his mind about “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”, amnesty, at all.
http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/03/28/b loggers_press_mccain_adviser_on_immigration
“John McCain’s position on immigration is very clear and this a question that gets asked at townhall appearances everyday in media appearances and has answered the question at least a thousand times before the New Hampshire primary,” Schmidt said.
He explained, “Any person who supports John McCain’s campaigns is a subscriber to John McCain’s views”
A vote for McCain is a vote for surrender of your country.
Your vote for McCain will be used as proof that you want amnesty, whether you do or not.
Many of us see another amnesty as the end of the Republic, the stampede it will set off will be overwhelming. If we don’t stop the inundation none of the rest matters. We’ll be a banana republic before the jihadis can get us. There will never be another GOP president or Congressional majority. Importing voters for the socialists is as stupid as it gets.
McCain keeps saying “Secure the border first”. We know that he means amnesty next. The plan is to get the border state Gov’s to declare the border secure. Conveniently, they are all on board the cheap labor express. Then his good friend Ted Kennedy will bring back McCain/Kennedy and McCain can provide his good friends across the aisle with their new permanent majority.
I will not vote for amnesty.
John Ansell said:
And you are, in effect supporting Obama at this point. You are doing so despite having it clearly demonstrated to you that it is supporting real Amnesty. It has been demonstrated over and over that McCain will listen to his base and that Obama will have no need to listen to anyone who is anti-illegal immigration. You have had it spelled out in triplicate how an amnesty can be defeated with a McCain presidency and you can’t begin to tell me how it could be stopped with an Obama presidency. Indeed, you haven’t expressed ANY interest in actually DOING anything to stop illegal immigration, only complaining about McCain here.
The only conclusion left is that you want illegal immigration.
On September 2nd, 2008 at 2:58 pm, Weary Citizen said:
Excellent. Thank You.
I have never, will never surrender this Country. It makes me sick to see people effectively arguing for an Obama presidency while laughably telling me I am surrendering ANYTHING by voting for McCain. I am voting to give us a fighting chance and YOU are voting for capitulation, socialism and cowardice.
So work to stop it. The only chance you have of stopping it at this point is to elect McCain.
Indeed, Obama will just sign the thing.
Which offers us another chance to stop it, by lobbying/threatening/pushing the governors NOT to sign on. Amnesty can be stopped with McCain and it wont be stopped with Obama.
Big Business seems to be at least tacitly supporting ‘immigration.’ Go to Wal-Mart, Lowe’s, Home Depot and see all the multilingual signage. It’s also prevalent on the products sold. I have a sneaking suspicion that these merchandisers are now requiring that the product directions be in Spanish also.
I live in Florida and have an illegal alien day labor center next to our town hall. Illegal immigration is my number one concern, but not so much that I’m willing to allow BO to get elected just to say I voted for a pro-enforcement candidate.
For the record, I wasn’t for amnesty back in ’87 and I think it’s an even worse idea now.
The only viable, remotely pro-enforcement candidate is McCain. He will at least provide us time to push back. Obama will sign whatever amnesty bill congress sends him without blinking an eye.
If we were to truly unite on this and get moving then we might have a chance to stop it, even roll it back. That would be my fondest wish.
If we snipe at each other, elect Obama and then just blow off steam about the problem on the internet while the other side works for open borders it wont be anyones fault but our own when we get open borders.
If only the GOP would stick to its guns on this matter.
I would add that no (as in ZERO) illegals currently in the US be given any of these temporary work visas. Such visas should be issued only at the US Embassies in other countries. If they want to work here…go home and re-enter legally. Doing otherwise would give illegals here an unfair advantage over law-abiding folks in other nations.
I see your point Mr. Deuax. The only thing I try to get across is that it would be much easier for McCain to change his stance than for the millions of voters like myself to change our stance on amnesty. It my mind, McCain is making a huge political mistake. He’s not even carrying the Latino vote!
Really, if he switches his stance, he wins. It’s that simple. If he stays with the amnesty plan, it’s going to be extremely close. I hope his campaign realizes this and takes action soon. Bill Grant is right that it’s getting late and Obama is above 50%.
No, not exactly. McCain never said he was “wrong” on the border. He said he “got the message” from the conservative base and he would secure the border first. But now, not only does McCain deny he was wrong on the border, he denies that he even changed his position:
On McCain’s website it says:
However, just a few weeks ago he told La Raza:
So which one will really be his top priority, border security or path to citizenship? I, for one, would still like to get a straight answer on this from the “Straight Talker.”
Have you seen this yet ?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,415241,00.html
He did, “secure the borders first”. OK? That equals time. He has promised not to persue it again until the governors sign off. OK? That equals more time, plus an opportunity to wring more time out of it. OK?
The alternative is Obama signing whatever bill hits his desk probably within his first 100 days.
…And that is the ONLY other alternative at this point because not only is neut Gingrich NOT running for president but he has endorsed John McCain. The other collection of 3rd party moonbats, truthers and mis-fits aren’t going to be elected to anything. Rightfully so.
McCain listened to his “conservative” base and chose Palin. He did so because some in the “conservative” base fancy themselves such fantastic “conservatives” that they are perfectly willing to stay at home or do something unfathomably stupid like write in Newt Gingrich. Why? Because all the pro life people wanted someone who was pro life or they were going to help elect someone who literally supported baby killing. Why else? Because all the pro enforcement people wanted someone pro-enforcement or they were going to help elect someone who is literally open borders. Why else? All the pro strength people were going to help someone who literally wants to empower our enemies who are pledged to our destruction… We couldn’t have a Mormon, we couldn’t have an independent, we couldn’t have a pro choice, we couldn’t have this or that…
Well you have been given basically everything they have asked for (Even though it has given the opposition plenty of ammunition to be used against him) Indeed everything that they CAN BE GIVEN and not completely lose independents who this election is going to hinge on. (It might already be too late because you just couldn’t read between the lines.) More importantly, conservatives have had it demonstrated in crystal clear terms that the opinions expressed here so often are taken seriously and that he will work and alter his stances to please Conservatives.
Yet there are still some who are intent on shooting themselves in the foot. The idea that they would toss the word “traitor” around is particularly ironic.
Juan Hernandez being on McCain’s campaign and his pandering to The National Council of The Race (LaRaza in Spanish) has garnered him 23% of the hispanic vote. That amounts to 1.38% of the total vote. McCain is costing himself 10-15% by being stuck on stupid (amnesty) and siding with the illegal aliens and their employers. If he got on the side of American citizens, he would see his share of the hispanic vote INCREASE. Many Hispanic citizens want the laws enforced, they oppose amnesty, just like 75% of the rest of American citizens. If he got on the side of American citizens he would be leading by a comfortable margin. If he stays stuck on stupid (amnesty), he’ll lose.
Oh I do hope the “rack” is a typo – other wise, knowing John McAmnesty as I do, we just became liable to provide everyone entering the country a bed for the night!
Don’t you ever get tired of regurgitating that straw man over and over?
When Smilin’ Juan is no longer a part of McCain’s campaign, he’ll be a strawman, until then, he’s a campaign adviser, and I’m sure I wouldn’t like the advice he’s giving.
not a fan of McShamenasty, with the exception of Palin. too bad she isn’t at the top of the ticket. I feel the same as alot of you on this post about McCain and amnesty, I was not going to vote for him and I stated that more than once on MM. But the more is learned of The ’0′ and his marxist ways I’ve come to the conclusion, L.O.T.E. or not Odummy cannot be elected. With McCain we still have a chance to change his mind…not so with Odummy.
I don’t understand the RNC. high cost of oil and open boarders where 70% of Americans want the boarders closed and they can’t find away to get through to Juan? Gads what is he thinking, or is he?
Bill Grant, read Virginia Patriot’s #87 post. McCain needs to change, not me. I applaud McCain on switching his stance to secure the border FIRST!! What I cannot tolerate is the second part: Amnesty. His plan is a joke too, the Govs. are not going to sign off on the secure border. They currently blame the Feds for the problem all the time they allow Sanctuary cities in their states. Look at Arnold, he’s put up a welcome sign for the invaders.
That’s the last lote I will vote for. Now if McCain came out and signed a deal that he will enforce the laws on the books and drop his amnesty plans, I’D VOTE FOR THE LOTE. Until then, good luck to you. You’ll need all the luck you can get since McCain can’t understand HE and HE ALONE, is throwing his chance of being POTUS out the window. I’m not happy about that, but that’s how it is. I stand by my morals and convictions.
Never mind, Bill.
Some people are just stuck on stupid.
You’re right Rose, you can’t.
Thanks to those of us who have stuck to our priciples the R ticket now has a real conservative in the VP slot. If folks like you, who are stuck on stupid, would have withheld your support, he’d have had no choice by now but to have caved on the other issues as well.
John Ansell – You’re welcome for the laugh.
We agree on this. McCain is stuck on stupid. I’m not the one throwing away a chance at being POTUS, McCain is. Who do you think is stupid now?
I did. I have read the same thing over and over for months here.
We are now 2 months away. You have gotten everything that you need to stop Amnesty yet you simply refuse to allow yourself to see it. We can fight Amnesty and win with a McCain presidency, I am more convinced then ever before.
Bluntly, you have gotten every last thing you wanted and it will probably cost the election.
You have been asked a dozen times about what your plan for stopping it was; you have none. You have been offered a plan to stop it which represents the last best hope for doing so, yet you simply return on the next thread and say the same exact thing: That you “oppose Amnesty.” Good for you. Now what? You have been asked that before only to run away and continue on the next thread.
ALL THE MORE REASON TO ELECT HIM! If they do not he can’t push for comprehensive immigration reform. That will give is time to push for enforcement. I am sorry, to be precise, that will give Weary Citizen and I time to push for more enforcement because apparently you can’t be bothered.
But that is what you are bring on yourself. You don’t have any chance of stopping Amnesty under Obama. How are you going to stop Amnesty with an Obama presidency? When are you going to give an answer to that?
Thanks for your well wishes. It isn’t a substitute for effort. Bottom line: You are not anti-Amnesty, if you were you would be against Obama.
You are throwing away any chance to have any say over the issues you supposedly care about.
I am not calling YOU stupid John, I think the the way that you have come to your decision on this incredibly flawed and completely self-defeating.
I have demonstrated how Amnesty can/will be stopped with McCain.
How are you going to stop Amnesty with an Obama presidency?
Bill, McCain is not listening to us when he needs our votes, how do you think he’ll listen when he no longer needs them?
I remember McCain/Kennedy, not Obama/Kennedy.
You are making valid points, more so than McCain himself. SO much so I might write in Bill Grant.
John – psst – I think Bill is McCain…
But it’s the same ol’ (Mc)points. I keep asking, if McCain, who will have the support of Rs AND Ds supposedly (according to Bill) can’t get amnesty passed, how will b. Hussein who won’t have the support of both? Rs will finally start acting like Rs! And with the lowest approval ratings of any congress ever, I highly doubt the Ds will gain.
Of course, Bill just twists up my question and can’t answer it. I know we’re all sounding like broken records at this (Mc)point.
I was thinking the same thing but then McCain stated that he doesn’t know how to use the Internet.