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1. #1
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:59 am, AlohaGuy said:

   What to do? What to do?

   Lie, lie…

2. #2
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:00 am, BrianNY said:

   “We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just four days than we’ve learned about Barack Obama in 17 months. That is just sad. It’s a pathetic reflection of the mainstream media’s unwillingness to do their jobs for fear of finding stories that would hurt the candidate so many of them openly desire to win. But periodically appearing to read teleprompters isn’t vetting, no matter how many months a candidate has done it, and Obama’s ability to perform in set-piece debates is both dubious—Hillary once famously took him apart—and irrelevant. Barack Obama really has never been fully vetted. He hasn’t even come close.”

   Ain’t that the truth!

3. #3
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:08 am, AlohaGuy said:

   Facts – we’re the MSM, we’re above the facts.

4. #4
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:09 am, William Amos said:

   You know the left started with the “Right wing attack machine” meme and the “Swift Boat” meme

   Now we have the deranged left meme. The Bush did 9/11 and Sarah Palin had her own daughters baby meme

   The left has deceided that its all or nothing this time. There isnt any slime they arent willing to throw all the while their grinning idiot of a candidate spout hope and change while his thugs work with the left wing hate sites to peddle their hate.

5. #5
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:14 am, BrianNY said:

   Anti-Palin lie of the morning: She “slashed” teen pregnancy funding

   Is this what the Left calls vetting?

   And speaking of vetting, Joe Biden was forced to drop out of his 1988 Presidential run after he was vetted for two known instances of plagarism and lying about his academic credentials.

   Does the result of Barack Obama’s 2008 vetting process indicate that Barack is fine with accepting a proven liar and plagiarist as his running mate?

   Why was lying and plagiarism not ok with democrats in 1988, but apparently ok with democrats in 2008?

6. #6
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:15 am, Flyover State said:

   Does anybody here use eBay? Take a look at their Town Square discussion forum. I gather the town square is in Salem.

7. #7
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 am, meatpieandtatters said:

   LIEberals!

8. #8
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:22 am, starlightwoman said:

   Since when does the mainstream media care about the facts???? They just make up their figures as they go along to fit their agenda

9. #9
   On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:31 am, fluffy said:

   Fertilla the Huntress

   

10. #10
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:31 am, BrianNY said:

    #7 s.l. woman said:

    Since when does the mainstream media care about the facts???? They just make up their figures as they go along to fit their agenda.

    That reminds me of a song I used to listen to back in high school:

    You can’t change the world
    But you can change the facts
    And when you change the facts
    You change points of view
    If you change points of view
    You may change a vote
    And when you change a vote
    You may change the world

11. #11
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:31 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    It depends on what definition of slash is…

    For a liberal slash means NOT increasing something by 1000%

12. #12
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:47 am, steveegg said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    LIEberals!

    You forgot that I trademarked that description </humor>

    Seriously, it describes the LeftStreamMedia to the letter.

13. #13
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:48 am, steveegg said:

    It’s a convergence of PDS and the standard description of any attempt to slow a planned increase in spending on social programs as a “cut”.

14. #14
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:51 am, Stewed Hamm said:

    A funding slash that resulted in a 300% increase in revenue, eh. They must’ve been serving school lunches at that place.

15. #15
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:59 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Attributions to ALL those people who agree with the LIEberal description.

    

16. #16
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 am, William Amos said:

    Or better yet here is one of Biden’s Presidentual campaign chairs under arrest for stealing over $200,000 dollars

17. #17
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:12 am, love2rumba said:

    Fertilla the Huntress

    Hmmm..I think I’ll start calling my girlfriend that…it’ll turn her on, I think

18. #18
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 am, love2rumba said:

    Other than my prurient comment, Its up to us to correct the record whenever possible..we conservatives still have work to do, and we have someone worthy of such motivation.

19. #19
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:30 am, BrianNY said:

    MM,

    Just read your latest article at Townhall, The Four Stages of Conservative Female Abuse.

    It’s awesome, and I especially like paragraph #6!

20. #20
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:32 am, RetFireman said:

    This is nothing new. Back in 2004, Harold Schaitberger, the General President of a IAFF (International Alliance of Fire Fighters) carried out the lie that President Bush, in the wake of 9-11, had SLASHED the budget for Firefighters and First Responders. Of course the Rank and File never got on him for the conflict of interest he had in being one of Kerry’s campaign staff nor that he was vying for a cabinet post, the fact of the matter was that President Bush had RAISED the amounts of money allotted for Firefighters and First Responders after 9-11 by the MILLIONS.

    However, after 3 years, departments had already upgraded their equipment, bought a bunch of really cool, neat, much needed stuff, increased staffing etc., and thus the large amounts needed just after the attacks were no longer needed. So, when the budget was proposed with an even larger increase, President Bush basically left the amount at what it was the previous year. This was reported by the Kerry Campaign as well as Pres S. as a MAJOR CUT, leaving us destitute. Nothing could have been further from reality.

    These are the levels they will go to. While technically correct on the surface, it is indeed a bald-face lie to say it was cut at all, just like this case.

    And what will the Liberals do? Will they go and find out the truth for themselves? No. And why? Because of their “feelings”. Their emotions run their lives and thus these creatures play them like a cheap fiddle, using the buzz words guaranteed to make people get upset.

    And nothing works better than, “What about the children. They hate children. Look at what they did…slashed teen pregnancy money. Sure, they are a loving family, but not everyone is thus they need that money to kill those unwanted babies.”

    Simply freaking disgusting. They have no shame, no conscience, and no souls.

21. #21
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:41 am, powerpro said:

    You know, I’m more and more convinced that the media is unintentionally buffering Palin and McCain from the always to be expected October surprise.

    They are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at her right now, and given time they’ll probably throw that at her too.

    But the problem (for them) is that such a deluge of bile spewed on a candidate makes them more sympathetic to the people, especially when innocent family members are involved.

    Further, what kind of impact would an October surprise have after the public’s been saturated with wall to wall attacks on her?

    IMHO, it would be akin to listening for the sound of a pin dropping in the midst of a hurricane, completely lost in the deluge of “normal” reporting.

22. #22
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 5:41 am, BrianNY said:

    #20 RF said:

    Back in 2004, Harold Schaitberger, the General President of a IAFF (International Alliance of Fire Fighters) carried out the lie that President Bush, in the wake of 9-11, had SLASHED the budget for Firefighters and First Responders.

    I believe Harold Schaitberger is the same pantload who came out during the 9-11 Commission and tried to make people believe that Mayor Giuliani was some sort of bastard who hated firemen and had blood on his hands for underfunding the NYFD and personally suppling the heroes of 9-11 with faulty radio gear. All lies.

    I run a 5k every year that retraces the steps that Stephen Siller (NYFD) ran through a tunnel from Brooklyn to Manhattan, in full gear, before joining his squad and dying near WTC Tower Two.

    I can tell you that a whole lot of NYFD brothers did not appreciate Harold Schaitberger’s comments about Mayor Giuliani that year.

    The word was that Schaitberger is a Hillary supporter, so his attack on Mayor Giuliani was most likely at her bequest.

23. #23
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 5:46 am, MarcoPolo said:

    I am a Republican. I want her to slash spending. Maybe that’s just me, but I’m not thrilled to see the spending was tripled.

24. #24
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 am, BrianNY said:

    #21 powerpro said:

    Further, what kind of impact would an October surprise have after the public’s been saturated with wall to wall attacks on her?

    Doesn’t the ‘Bubba Clinton Principle’ allege that the longer a politician is viewed as getting unfairly pummeled, the higher his/her approval rating rises?

    Perhaps this is why ‘Bemused Liberal’ ‘Rusty’ and a cacophony of other liberals are hurriedly calling Governor Palin a “failure” and hoping that she retreats faster then Senator Eagleton did in 1972.

25. #25
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:31 am, RADRuss said:

    Folks, we have to remember that the only ones exempt from what liberals say are liberals themselves. Why? Because they are smart and know better than the rest of us.

    If Sarah Palin were a Democrat, would the GOP be slamming her character? Lets say she’s exactly who the libs claim she is. If she were Obama’s running mate, they’d be busy burying her past and spinning what op-research comes up with.

    Only a liberal’s excrement does not stink.

    That clear things up for everyone?

26. #26
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:35 am, RetFireman said:

    I believe Harold Schaitberger is the same pantload who came out during the 9-11 Commission and tried to make people believe that Mayor Giuliani was some sort of bastard who hated firemen and had blood on his hands for underfunding the NYFD and personally suppling the heroes of 9-11 with faulty radio gear.

    That’s him…only this year, when the majority of the membership was solidly behind Giuliani, he kept up that lie, used it to not invite him to speak with the rest of the candidates, completely snubbing him at this years IAFF Convention. Then, when the R&F got pissed about that, he sent a lame invite, complete with same insult, and claimed Giuliani was demonstrating his hatred of Firefighters when he turned down the last minute, given under duress invite.

    Actually, much to our surprise, this year he did not sell us out to Clinton as we thought. He came out really early after claiming to have once again taken a poll, (never happened) for Dodd.

    Not only was Dodd never a serious candidate, but the poll was never given, and even after the IAFF falsly reports anyone who is unaware that you can go onto the IAFF website and list your party affiliation as automatically Democrat, a lie that we discovered during the 2004 election, the membership of over 144,000 dues paying career and retired members are majority Republican. Should a poll of the ENTIRE membership ever be taken as to who to endorse, it would not be a Democrat, thus the Executive Board and certain members of various E-Boards are polled at the Convention and that is how they sell us out.

    Keep in mind, it is the Dems that run the E-Boards of the locals. Just another example of how and why the Dems own the Unions and just because you pay dues does not mean you are represented.

    Oh, and once again, he sold us out to a loser…this time even bigger than Kerry.

27. #27
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:52 am, rlongenbach said:

    Umm, did anyone actually read what the proposal was for???

    http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/CapBackup/FY09/proj48722.pdf

    It was for a one-time grant to build a new center.

    All the details are attached to the above link. They originally wanted $10mil from AK. In that light, $3.9m from $5m isn’t as big of a deal. But the article is still misleading that it was for a “program”….

28. #28
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:52 am, Uplander said:

    The left has deceided that its all or nothing this time.

    This may well be ‘all or nothing’ for them.
    The left has performed an amazing feat.
    They have reached their zenith and nadir at the same time.

29. #29
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:57 am, guitarplayer said:

    The left’s nutjobs and the MSM is in full panic mode. They’ll put out any anti-Palin story regardless of facts. I love the smell of desperation (on the left) in the morning. It smells like victory.

30. #30
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:58 am, zorro said:

    Wait a minute. State funding for the teen pregnancy program increased?

    Stalin would be impressed with the propaganda the left is throwing out there.

31. #31
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 7:06 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Well Fertilla the Huntress, my favorite Mooser, SHOULD HAVE CUT SPENDING for teen moms. Why are we spending money on teen moms, is there a shortage of teen moms?

    Oops, back to the thread: Ok we know that Christofascist hypocrite/Fertilla the Huntress, my favorite Mooser did not cut the funding. The MSM lied. They lie about everything and the best way to stop it is hurt them. Cost them money.

    A major part of USA Today subscription base is Hotel Drops. They drop a copy at every hotel room door and put a $.25 to $1 charge on your bill. While that is costly it does drive Ad revenue. Tell the Hotel desk no, I don’t want to pay it. They will deduct it. USA Today loses double. And if you do go to Starbucks spill the last of your coffee on the NY Times. At least you stop the next Pitiful Person from being further contaminated.
    Christofascist hypocrite/Fertilla the Huntress, my favorite Mooser Rocks.
    —
    Hey Obama-Want to see Bitter?
    Look at your wife.

    WE SHOULD BE CIVIL-WE CONSERVATIVES?
    Not a chance.

32. #32
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 7:16 am, iamsaved said:

    The left is running scared. They sense a threat in Sarah Palin and their “lies” and innuendos are a great barometer as to what level their fear has gone. It’s simply amazing to what depths they will go in order to try and discredit her and her family.

    I loved Newt Gingrich’s comment last night when interviewed at how the MSM made it front line news that Todd Palin had a DUI 22 years ago but nary a word of Barack Obama taking cocaine (by his own admission) at about the same age as Todd was. I have a feeling more people can idendity with having a few too many beers as opposed to taking a hardcore drug like cocaine.

33. #33
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 7:21 am, navywife91 said:

    Democrats use the “new” math, so it is a cut.

34. #34
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 am, nyc123me said:

    At best you’ll see a reluctant retraction buried in the classified section from WaPo. Truth has nothing to do with their idea of reporting.

35. #35
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 am, FamilyMan said:

    I would like to see more politicians “slash away”. What’s wrong with “slashing”? Even if it was true, why is this a problem.

36. #36
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:03 am, rambler said:

    All out of the Bagdad Bob Playbook of Truth Telling.

37. #37
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:18 am, St. Louis Blue said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:51 am, Stewed Hamm said:

    A funding slash that resulted in a 300% increase in revenue, eh. They must’ve been serving school lunches at that place.

    Or perhaps lgm was doing their budget.

    But seriously–facts in a WaPo story? Isn’t that similar to expecting matter to co-exist with antimatter?

38. #38
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:29 am, torabora said:

    RetFireman! Your point on unions is not lost on me and is the first time I have seen it in print. Out here in Commiefornia my union CSEA is also dominated by commie/libtard/freaking socialists. Many members are Republican/conservative with no voice. When I speak up for my principles at meetings I am the only voice in the room. Yet I do get a smattering of handshakes later. I get all warm and fuzzy then too!

    Republican politicians need to learn how to break into public service union ranks and organize there. Public service [union] workers are a necessary part of government and to be ignored hurts.

39. #39
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:38 am, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    What to do? What to do?

    I suspect they’ll do what they always do: go with truthiness instead of the truth.

40. #40
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:43 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    How appropriate

    Deborah C Howell HowellDC@washpost.com
    Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:03 AM
    To: ArizonaNeanderthal
    Subject:ombudsman on vacation.

    I will be out of the office starting 08/21/2008 and will not return until
    09/08/2008.

    If you have a complaint, please send to the appropriate desk. I will see
    your messages on my return Sept. 8.

    I know what I would like her to see, but I imagine it would be illegal.

41. #41
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:57 am, almeehan said:

    Did you get any sleep last night Michelle? Lot of late posts. Writing to the WAPO ombudsman would be like pissing into the wind as far as making someting happen. It’s coming down to torches and pitchforks in the streets.

42. #42
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:04 am, lgm said:

    Palin is on record as being against funding for teen pregnancy programs. The Kos post has the basic idea right, even if the detail is wrong. (QBS)

43. #43
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:07 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Since no one else said it – It’s for the kids!!!

44. #44
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:10 am, sonofdy said:

    Palin is on record as being against funding for teen pregnancy programs. The Kos post has the basic idea right, even if the detail is wrong. (QBS)

    How do you know thats the case since there are so many lies about palin out there…

45. #45
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:12 am, navywife91 said:

    Palin is on record as being against funding for teen pregnancy programs.

    What specific programs are you speaking of?

46. #46
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:13 am, navywife91 said:

    How do you know thats the case since there are so many lies about palin out there…

    Because he read it on the DK, so it must be true!

47. #47
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:17 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    So Kane just pulled the $5M number out of a hat? I don’t think this matter is settled.

48. #48
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:18 am, NY Andy said:

    Actually, lgm is a typical leftist. He knows it isn’t true but repeats it anyway in hopes of changing a vote or rattling conservatives. The end justifies the means, as his socialist forefathers would say.

    Kind of reminds me of the Rather scandal where the left was all saying the charges had a ring of truth even if the proof was a forgery.

49. #49
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:19 am, NY Andy said:

    #46,

    Maybe it was John Kerry’s magic hat?

50. #50
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:45 am, St. Louis Blue said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:04 am, lgm said:

    Palin is on record as being against funding for teen pregnancy programs. The Kos post has the basic idea right, even if the detail is wrong. (QBS)

    Little Guy Fawkes just admitted that Kos can’t be trusted when it comes to reliably reporting details–elsewhere known as facts.

51. #51
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 10:10 am, max said:

    Christofascist hypocrite/Fertilla the Huntress

    Hey! I’m drinkin’ coffee heeeere!

52. #52
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 10:17 am, ICBMMan said:

    These liberal bastards (sorry, that’s what they are) have literally gone berserk! The lies and smears are so blatant, and the bias is so obvious.

53. #53
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 am, fourstringfuror said:

    Palin is on record as being against funding for teen pregnancy programs. The Kos post has the basic idea right, even if the detail is wrong. (QBS)

    HAHAHAHA

    The seriousness of the charge, right?

    Who needs facts when you have unbridled contempt?

54. #54
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    iamsaved said:

    I loved Newt Gingrich’s comment last night when interviewed at how the MSM made it front line news that Todd Palin had a DUI 22 years ago but nary a word of Barack Obama taking cocaine (by his own admission) at about the same age as Todd was.

    Then it is up to us to spread the word. Some truth telling lgm, bmusingliberal? Care to help? Or are mere “details” beneath Liberals? Perhaps that would that be the wrong moral equivalency?

    Perhaps Alan Colmes at colmes@foxnews.com would mention it on his ‘The Alan Colmes Show’ on FOX News Radio. Perhaps you could mention it on every blog, newsletters and such you can find?

55. #55
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 am, DKShideler said:

    As I said over at Ace’s place, I don’t understand why this would be a bash, even if she HAD done it, which evidently she didn’t. Just because your daughter has a teen pregnancy doesn’t mean you believe that the State should be paying for it.

    Hypocrisy: I do not think that word means what they think it means.

56. #56
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 am, cabrerski said:

    All of this is helping Michelle Obama’s kids…

57. #57
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 10:45 am, DBNinKY said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:04 am, lgm said:

    Palin is on record as being against funding for teen pregnancy programs. The Kos post has the basic idea right, even if the detail is wrong.

    Sorry, but that just doesn’t follow; since when is smearing and misrepresenting someone’s position, getting the “basic idea right?!”

58. #58
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 am, txvet2 said:

    Palin is on record as being against funding for teen pregnancy programs. The Kos post has the basic idea right, even if the detail is wrong.

    You’re a liar, as usual. Go away, troll, nobody’s in the mood this morning.

59. #59
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 am, Scouter said:

    uhhh….
    why is govt (federal or state) even in the business of pregnancy programs for teens? Ideally, this matter should be addressed by local private organizations such as community groups and churches, you know, the volunteer work that Obama is so enthusiastic about.

60. #60
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:14 am, FamilyMan said:

    We should all be against social engineered programs such as teen pregnancy programs. Who designs the programs? How much does it cost? Are there any long term measurable improvements? These types of programs, in the last 40 years are part of the trouble we have today.

61. #61
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 am, whoozit said:

    lgm:

    How do you know that the Obama’s homelife is idyllic? Do you stalk them? Do you hide under their diningroom table?

    Will the Palin’s family then return to idyllic as soon as their daughter (who will soon be an adult) moves out or turns 18?

    Unless you are a fly on the wall, you don’t know JACK about the happiness of anyone’s home.

62. #62
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 am, Scouter said:

    FamilyMan,
    My Church encourages us to avoid the entaglements of government aid. It has an in-house welfare program to provide temporary relief for families who need a short-term safety net.
    Our Church teaches a strict moral code, including abstinence. But kids, being human, blow it sometimes. Our Church also has a social services program to provide counseling to families who are in Sarah Palin’s situation. Dovetailing with that is our adoption program to designed match up families with babies born of unwed mothers. All funded by voluntary tithes and other funds donated through the sacrifices of its members.
    If these things are done on a local or church level, through volunteer efforts, we can avoid the disease of social engineerd programs. It works for us…

    *a scout is helpful*

63. #63
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:57 am, whoozit said:

    sorry, i meant to post this in regards to lgm’s comment on “Two covers, one conclusion.” I think it’s P.D.S. overload!

64. #64
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:57 am, CharlieT said:

    I did contact the WaPo ombudsman (not that I have any hope it will change their liberal bias).

    As a Northern Virginian, I have subscribed to this rag for years (I prefer their sports coverage and metro sections). I had already taken to throwing away the A section unread. But I have scanned the front page headlines and every (without exception) campaign related story on the front page of the Post since Saturday has been negatively focused on Governor Palin.

    Don’t know what took me so long, but I cancelled my subscription.

65. #65
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 12:45 pm, gobblers_nightmare said:

    Just Googled two phrases:
    Palin Daughter = 1,140,000 returns.
    Obama Rezko = 514,000 returns.

    Gee, is it just me, or does a POTUS candidate’s association with a felon seem more relevant to an election than a teenager, who is not a candidate, being pregnant? Not to the libs, I guess.

66. #66
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 12:53 pm, Uplander said:

    There is some parity here.
    Palin Daughter = 1,140,000 returns.
    1,630,000 for obama bastard

67. #67
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:04 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 am, William Amos said:

    Or better yet here is one of Biden’s Presidentual campaign chairs under arrest for stealing over $200,000 dollars

    Oh, whats 200 large between friends? Caling it “stealing” is soooo yesterday and we only look to the future around here. Its only money anyway… and free money at that.

68. #68
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:05 pm, gobblers_nightmare said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 12:53 pm, Uplander said:
    There is some parity here.
    Palin Daughter = 1,140,000 returns.
    1,630,000 for obama bastard.

    Seems like a redundant phrase to me

69. #69
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:07 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Sorry, but that just doesn’t follow; since when is smearing and misrepresenting someone’s position, getting the “basic idea right?!”

    LOL, where have you been all this time? Its still “Fake But Accurate”

70. #70
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:18 pm, fred5676 said:

    MSM did exactly the same thing with the “Republicans slash medicare benefits” story for over six months during 1996 Presidential campaign.

    Every night Leno and Letterman parroted the Dems’ line of Republicans “cutting” benefits.

    Truth: Reps. wanted about a 4% increase, while Dems. wanted a 6% increase. The 2% smaller increase was called a “cut” by Dems. In January 2007 Clinton signed a 5% increase and called it “medicare savings”.

    Problem: MSM went along the whole year and NEVER explained the facts to the public; they just repeated the Dem. line.

    Same ol’, same ol’.

71. #71
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:32 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Problem: MSM went along the whole year and NEVER explained the facts to the public; they just repeated the Dem. line.

    What about that budget “Surplus” that the Dems say Clinton left office with.

    Just like with the “Home Mortgage Crisis”. The politicians just play on the fact that most people are ignorant of finanance, accounting and statistics and court them as ‘useful fools’.

    Its has always worked and always will. There’s a reason the Electoral College exists!

72. #72
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:33 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    finanance finance

73. #73
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:22 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I run a 5k every year that retraces the steps that Stephen Siller (NYFD) ran through a tunnel from Brooklyn to Manhattan, in full gear, before joining his squad and dying near WTC Tower Two.

    Wow. RIP Stephen.

74. #74
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:25 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The politicians just play on the fact that most people are ignorant of finanance, accounting and statistics and court them as [are] ‘useful[less] fools’.

    Thought I’d trim it down a bit for you.

75. #75
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:58 pm, Lucifer Jones said:

    Thi is a very familiar tactic in California. First, propose a spending increase of 100%. If that proposal gets shot down entirely, then the government and their media enablers will proclaim a 50% spending cut was made.

76. #76
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:14 pm, RetFireman said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:29 am, torabora said:

    I’m in California as well…and want out sooooooo baaaaaaaaad…..

77. #77
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:16 pm, CrazyFool said:

    Didn’t the MSM come out with the meme that Bush SR. was ‘slashing Social Security and millions of seniors would be destitute!’ when, in fact, he was raising it 7%? This went on for weeks – some in the MSM even admitted that it was all lie – and then just continued the meme.

    I wouldn’t trust the media if they told me my own name.