“I will vote for Sarah Palin…”
Good read: A former Democrat explains why she’s voting for Sarah Palin.
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This is the problem with liberals. They just don’t get the moral equivalence thing.
I’ll spell it out for you here:
AIP is an organization in Alaska – Sarah Palin was addressing them in a video speech, NOT endorsing them. They are her constituents.
The moral equivalence to you…
You have a senator that was formerly in the KKK — a violent, racist organization, but since he’s a Democrat, he’s excused and continues to be re-elected.
Now do you get it?
Don’t seem to recall Palin saying that AIP was her mentor and close friend.
I’ll say it again, she left the group 10 years ago. Obama made excuses until Wright and Trinity were no longer politcally convenient for him.
You might want to check the make-up of the Alaska voters. Lots and lots of independents there.
I am still waiting for a response from LGM to post #95
Red state, sorry not buyin it, you guys got no bump. who cares how many people watched? They were all disappointed. 5 points where? the invisable Bump Fairy? rofl…
you guys are quaking in your boots and whining like 3 year olds.
Sarahs speech will be seen by MORE people and blow Invesco’s away on content. Why don’t you trolls go play back in the mud with your own kind.
your truly pathetic.
It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!!
McCain/Palin 08′
Image: trolls reaching up out of the sewer to make it back up to the mudhole.
I do believe he was a Kleagle(sp?) which is kind of like a recruiter. That’s even worse than being a member. Can you imagine what his pitch was?
5 hours later…still waiting. Don’t hold your breath.
Except her husband was a member as recently as 2002, and at least two AIP members recall her attending their 1994 convention, before she held any elected office.
I am with you on Jeremiah Wright; I think it does not speak well of Barack Obama for his connections with his church. Please explain after so much Wright hysteria that Sarah Palin does not deserve the same scrutiny for her AIP connections.
Me, too. You won’t get it. That is why I no longer waste effort thoughtfully responding to trolls. I taunt them for insulting us with their incoherent rambings and baseless accusations.
Can anyone find the polls from previous elections that were taken right after the DNC convention? My understanding is that Obama did get a bump, but not what it should have been. It was much smaller than what democrat candidates have gotten in the past.
It’s been explained. Please read above.
Because the AIP never tried to blow up the Capitol and the Pentagon. And because Sarah Palin didn’t funnel earmarks to the AIP after she was elected. And because she was not mentored into politics by an unrepentant terrorist.
Is that enough of a distinction for you?
But if the media would subject Obama’s associates to equal scrutiny, that would be great.
Socky, you are too kind.
She has been a registered Republican since the early 80s.
Ah, so your proof is some unnamed source allegedly “recalls” her attending a conference 14 years ago.
That’s amazing, because I can’t even remember what I had for dinner last Friday night.
It depends on what the polls show that day
Guitar, the “polls” may have a 4 point dent, hardly a significant Bump, considering all the effort, time and $$$$$$$$$$$ wasted by the dems, it was hardly worth even mentioning…
in other words a complete BUST.
It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!!
McCain/Palin 08′
Image: Speed bumps in front of a grade school are bigger.
In all seriousness, neither can I.
Who cares. Her husband isn’t the one running for office.
Exactly. BEFORE she held any elected office.
Do I really need to repeat myself on this one? I guess I do. Obama covered up and made excuses for Wright up until the end. Palin left that organization 10 years ago. That’s the difference.
Anyway, I need to go take care of my dog. It’s been fun.
Until you scrutinize Obama the way you are scrutinizing the Palin family and suggesting that they have shady ties. I’ll consider everything you write as a simple distraction and deflection from the real truth, which is you know that Obama is weak and leaves you wanting. Yet, you are going to vote for him anyway.
Now back your regular, scheduled water-carrying.
Like I’ve been saying, the worst rumors about Sarah Palin (e.g. AIP) are nothing compared with known facts about Barack Obama (Weather Underground, Annenberg Challenge, Trinity, Woods Foundation, infanticide, earmarks, payoffs to Rezko, the slum housing project he got earmarked in the state budget, the earmarks to his wife’s hospital).
Not to mention the fawning media. It is sad that his lead is so small even with all of the help his Chicago-style campaign has received across the board.
Neither did Jeremiah Wright (or Bill Ayers, who opposed the Pentagon bombing). This does nothing to rebut why if we should be so concerned about Jeremiah Wright, we should not be about the AIP.
But her husband was a member of the AIP for 7 years, and as recently as 2002. (If we’re so concerned about Michelle Obama’s senior thesis from 25 years ago, why so quick to let Todd Palin off the hook?)
Two sources.
Yes pb, how could I have forgotten that?
lol, the tingle has left the building!
rofl.
the Glow is POOF!!! Gone.
I do scrutinize Obama, which is part of why I read this website. Again, I think a lot of his history doesn’t speak especially well of him. You’re right, I am going to vote for him. He’s not a perfect candidate, but I prefer him.
If the media were actually scrutinizing Sarah Palin, instead of yammering about her daughter (which I think only helps her), I think a lot of people would have pause about a woman with these connections and her view on creationism in schools and her position to deny abortions to victims of rape and incest.
Factually you are very wrong about Bill Ayers. He did not oppose the Pentagon bombing. He did the bombing and later semi-backtracked years later.
from Wikipedia:
He set the bombs and later, after 9/11, tried to wiggle out of support for it. You made it sound as if he opposed them when they were set.
Gawd, yes! Who do you want? The community agitator?
You’re right, I thought I had read somewhere that he had opposed the bombing. Thanks for bringing this up.
I guess that depends on what country “Ilovemycountry” loves.
Maybe he/she is Russian or Iranian.
Sooo… that destroyed your lame argument.
No, I wasn’t comparing AIP to Bill Ayers. I was comparing it to Jeremiah Wright.
It’s just amazing that conservatives can get so in a tizzy about things like Michelle Obama’s college term paper, but when similar (or worse) connections come up with their little darling, they pretend it doesn’t exist. (No AIP post by Michelle Malkin, and I don’t expect one anytime soon.)
Wow, what a powerful commentary by a former Dem. It must have been a hard thing to reconcile… that the Dem Party left her not that she left them. I’m also having the same crisis of thought, of belonging. Since 2006, I’ve become increasingly concerned about the direction that not only the GOP but the country is headed. The reason that Obummer is enjoying the cult of personality that he currently garners isn’t because his policy statements are well-thought out or even right. It’s because he sweeps up the wants and needs of the people and holds himself back. He shares nothing of himself but uses the crippling self-pity currently overtaking the country to punish the rest of us who don’t want anything from the government and just want to be left alone.
The GOP is not the same, self-confident party it once was. Neither is the Dem Party. Both are beholden to special interests, and the notion that you don’t need much but a well-oiled political machine to back your ambitions. You don’t have to be of any particular talent, or even have a strong sense of self or belief systems to be a politician. You can be an empty vessel into which the grasping, emotionally-gripped masses can pour out all their anger, self-pity, and selfish desires.
The political parties don’t answer to the people anymore. They don’t answer to anyone, and as a Republican, it pains me to say that. I hated that 2006 happened but it happened nonetheless because the Republicans lost sight of who really runs the show and it wasn’t them. It’s the people. However, the people’s insight into what actually runs the country is just as flawed as the political parties’.
The American people no longer believe they can make it on their own. They now believe, in this era of self-pity, pointed out by an astute Asian Times columnist, that they can’t get by without the state’s handouts. I look no further than the astounding conversation that I had with my very Republican mother a few days ago as a sign of such self-pity.
As someone who believes in the importance of wealth, in the entrepreneurial spirit, it was alarming to hear my mother harp on how “bad” most rich people were, how many didn’t pay their fare share. Yes, I pointed out that the top 5% of highest income earners pay the most in taxes (app. 60%). I even advised her to look it up at the IRS website. I even asked her who pays her pay check. My mother works for a private college as a computer programmer in the Alumni Department. If it weren’t for Alumni donations and private donations, she wouldn’t have a job. Those “bad,” rich people at work I suppose.
Yes, I can certainly relate to this former Dem’s experience. I no longer believe that the strength of this country lies in its people. It now lies in the promising temptation of entitlement programs such as universal healthcare and free college education. The American people are no longer interested in cleaning house but lining their own pockets. It only takes a few utterances from liberal visitors to this blog to make that point astoundingly clear.
This country is not the country I once knew. We have weak, vacuous politicians (both Obummer and McCain) who represent equally weak-minded, US magazine reading sheeple. Strong characters like Sarah Palin don’t arise very often and when they do, as I’ve seen the past few days, they’re vilified for being authentic and true to themselves. That’s the real ideal of the US, not believing the promises of vapid politicians before actually looking into the details of their proposals.
I am amazed that you are amazed.
Excellent post emjem24.
Is that all you can do?
Beat! That! Dead! Horse! Harder!
Geez!!!
Nothing in this world will ever make those who are in the bag for Obama, change their minds. God himself could come down from heaven, and declare that none of the accusations about Palin are factual, and these people would still try to justify their vote for Obama.
The truth does not matter to these people. They try to manufacture justification for their flawed judgement. They will continue listening to their Democrat Party masters who tell them how to think and vote because they are partisan lemmings.
Rational thought is not part of the liberal mindset, so discussing politics with them is pointless.
Second that….Good job.
It’s just amazing that no one has properly vetted Obummer, the Dem’s presidential candidate. The biased media has left his daughters alone, but now feel it appropriate to go after Palin’s daughter and questioning whether she should just be a stay-at-hom mom. Your hypocrisy is really quite astounding.
The AIP thing is a manufactured, opposition stategy that implies something that never happened. However, Obummer hanging out with the anti-American crowd did happen. That’s something that has stuck with many people and will remain with those who bitterly cling to their guns and religion.
If you don’t understand the double standards of this election then I guess you believe whatever strategy it takes to win an election you’ll back. I think that’s sad since Dems are supposedly satisfied and sick with glee over McCain’s VP choice. Instead of letting the story play out…. the media goes to work overtime about whatever slime they think will stick to Palin.
What Sen. Lieberman said last night was particularly telling…. country over party, true leadership over empty vessels really doesn’t apply to Dems these days.
No, you were comparing AIP to Ayers AND to Jeremiah Wright.
I can’t speak for MM, but from what I understand, the AIP’s primary beef with statehood right now is that the collectivist wing of the U.S. Congress is blocking Alaska from using its natural resources (Oil, ANWR, polar bears, etc).
They joined the U.S. to be a self-sustaining state, but congressional collectivists are turning them into a hand-out state. Pallin never voiced support for the AIP, only their goal of supporting the Alaskan State Constitution, which allows for development of Alaska’s natural resources.
This is a far cry from Jeremiah Wright g’d'ing the U.S. and gloating at the attacks of 9/11, or BHO being a part of a church for 20 years that practices black liberation theology, which is a racist and anti-semitic form of marxism.
One world view preaches individualism and self-reliance; the other preaches hatred, victimism, and collectivism.
Both may be errors, but I prefer the errors made in the cause of individualism and self-reliance over those that view mankind as a slave to the state.
Fixed it for you
A point regarding the “vetting” of Obama: If he was applying for any position in the US government that required a Top Secret Clearance or above, his associations with Ayers alone would very likely preclude him from receiving his clearance. Likewise, his associations with an organization that embraced liberation theology as well as his associations with a convicted felon and his communist mentor would likewise be a real issue.
So, he would not qualify to become an officer in the US military, or an agent with the FBI or CIA, but he is qualified to serve as their leader?
Speaking from experience, you are correct.
Dear FilmLadd,
I laughed so hard when I read your Wikipedia entry. You must really think that the rest of us are idiots. Well quit patting yourself on the back while I remind you that ANYONE can add things to Wikipedia and that it has been proven to be quite inaccurate in its information. PLEASE DON’T USE THEM AS A SOURCE. Thanks
You’re ignoring the whole hate-America, hate-the-flag component to AIP. Again, you could say that Obama joined Trinity for its anti-poverty program, but that doesn’t absolve it of its questionable nature.
Dear jccones717,
I thought wikipedia did a good job there on listing the relevant facts and links. Here are some of the links from that article, you can reference their references:
PBS transcript
Bill Ayers Letter To New York Times
Interview with Weathermen from PBS / Independent Lens
In fact the Ayers Wiki article is fairly neutral in tone. But it can not be denied that Ayers did in fact participate in the bombings as he himself does not deny it.
I’m sorry, but where exactly is the hate America, hate-the-flag component to the AIP?
Here is their website, I don’t see any photographs of members standing on the US Flag like Bill Ayers did in the NY Times:
AIP website
If you find something like that by its leadership please post it here.
Until then, as far as I can see it’s got this quote on the front page:
“We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.”
~ Declaration of Independence”
That’s one of the best written letters I’ve ever read.
ANYBODY, man or woman, who goes out and shoots a Moose, wearies camo, knows a lot about guns and living in a remote area, has got to have my vote! Sarah Palin doesn’t strike me as a person who puts up with too much crap. She makes Mr.hopenchange look like a girlie-man. I’m loving this.
Does anyone have the name of the person who vetted Obamanation? Just one name, please? Just wonderin’is all….
FilmLadd:
If our country balkanizes the way that it’s heading with the liberals destroying our nation and our constitution, I’d move to Alaska myself and join that party.
I see nothing wrong with it. And it further reinforces my position that Sarah Palin is a candidate who will bring much needed reform to DC.
McCain-Palin 08!!!
Who vetted Obamanation??? Chicago Daley machine, Ayres, Wright, Farakan, Resko, street gangs in south chicago, shall I go on???
Ditto atheling. This stupidity is making them all sound like McCarthy. “Are you now or have you ever been a member of the AIP party?”
Or, well, making them sound like the stereotype they’ve built up of McCarthy over the years.
Exactly!!!! Oh wait, you’re not talking about the Obamas and Wright and Ayers?
The entire national press corps, every dirt digger Hillary and the RNC could hire and a majority of the Democratic party. Unlike Governor Palin, Obama didn’t just appear out of the ether five days ago, he has been subject to intense and prolonged scrutiny and research. If there’s anything relevent that you don’t know, you haven’t been paying attantion.
None of the things you mention make him “unqualified” to be commander-in-chief. They might, were he an unknown, cause a bureaucratic agency to deny him a security clearance, because they have to ewrr on the side of caution and because they are bureaucrats. But there is nothing — I repeat, nothing whatsoever — in Obama’s past that to any impartial observer suggests that he is a security risk, in the sense of breaking the law or undermining the constitution.
Nothing.
(Waits for paranoid frothing 4…3…2…1)
On September 3rd, 2008 at 5:53 pm, BemusedLib said:
You are right. There is indeed nothing in the constitution barring the apprentice of a communist, the friend of a terrorist, or the receiver of reduced rates on a mortgage from political graft from being elected POTUS.
And I am sure that once the future civil war is launched and lost by the hive mind, conservatives will rectify that situation. Assuming that any collectivists are left to worry about.
10 Questions the Press Corps Has Never Asked Obama:
1. During your tenure on the board of the Annenberg Challenge, you funneled over $100M into activist groups, but failed to improve the Chicago Public Schools. Is this the type of ‘change’ you have in mind for education policy?
2. As a state senator, you funneled millions of taxpayer dollars into public housing projects run by political contributors, many of which were labeled ‘uninhabitable’ by inspectors. Is this the type of ‘change’ you have in mind for housing policy?
3. Can you point to a single time when you stood up to the corrupt Chicago Democratic machine?
4. Explain why you voted ‘present’ 130 times as a state senator. Was it because you wanted to avoid taking a position that could hurt you later? Were you trying to hide what you actually believe?
5. Do you think an unrepentant terrorist should be given a prestigious, taxpayer-paid professorship at an American university?
6. Is Bristol Palin being punished with a baby?
7. You claim to support “reasonable restrictions” on gun ownership. Define reasonable and unreasonable in this context.
8. Your voting record is to the left of avowed socialist Bernie Sanders. Why is Bernie Sanders too right-wing for you?
9. Most countries in the world are lowering taxes and trying to deregulate their economies. Why do you want to move America in the opposite direction?
10. If America had abruptly pulled out of Iraq last year as you and others demanded, what would the situation be in that country today?
Until the Anointed One has to answer questions tougher than, “How are you and Michelle holding up the vicious right-wing smears?” he has not been vetted
– lgm
You’re no different than the ‘angry conservatives’ who don’t like their world view challenged, except that you’re an ‘angry liberal’ whose only defense of his party comes in the form of equivocation and outright lies.
I do read what you say, and believe it or not, I look it up to verify it. 90% of the time, the only place I can find the figures you site, or the references you post, is on a site as left as this one is right. So you’re nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black.
Oh wait, using that phrase probably makes me a racist. Dang.
I’ve got news for you lgm, and for everyone of your ilk. If you wanted any credibility, you should have raised those issues first, not several days later after practically burning her at the stake for being a woman with children. It’s too late now.
I will go further than that. If the situation were reversed, I would cross party lines to vote for her. If it should ever happen that a woman is running against a man in the future, I won’t bother to look at their platform or their party: they’ve got my vote. If Hillary runs against a man in a presidential election, she’s got my vote.
So long as women are going to be painted as ditzy-headed bimbos who should stay home and raise their children, I will feel no obligation whatsoever to look at the issues and platforms and vote responsibly. I will vote for women from this point on, no matter what party they belong to, and no matter what baggage they carry.
You have my solemn promise on that.
An elegant defense of morality over Party. Thank you.
And that’s why Obama won’t debate McCain in townhall format. He’s afraid of answering hard ball questions.
He is sticking to the traditional 3 debates asked by someone who is in his pocket.
So much for “change”.
No, no, no, no, no!!! Obama vetted Obama…everyone else just followed along like the dutiful puppies they are.
You missed the automatic disqualifier: cocaine use. It immediate prevents any consideration for any access to Top Secret or compartmented intelligence.
In other words, Obama is barred form access to classified were he to be a normal enlisted person in the military. He’d never be allowed to be an officer.
LGM
Which Palin? Sarah or Bristol?
It’s only natural for the democrat MSM to pull a double standard. They are scared to death that the first woman VP will come on a conservative ticket, and it will invalidate their “progress” because they are so important their work must mean something. After all, a crying Hilary couldn’t get a chance to be president, why should a little-known lady from Alaska get in the White House, and oh my! She’s PRO-life and doesn’t agree with gay marriage!
No, no NO! This can’t be! Only old white men should be republicans because everyone else is a victim!
? Who has more influence here, LGM? This pastor or Louis Farrakhan and his friends Rev. Pleger and Jeremiah Wright.
Here’s the key question: Do you even know the name of this pastor without referring to the article?
If you are so concerned about Jews, why do you write off radical Islam, refuse to support out troops and are silent on what the Rev. Sharpton said about Jews?
You come across, LGM, like the rest of the media: Those things about Jews can only be said by bleeding-heart liberals because they are “victims”, and if you confronted them, they might call you a RACIST! Oh my!
You try to be the intelligent liberal who calmly posts on here amidst all the conservative venting. Yet, it’s quite clear this blog gets your blood pressure up on occasion.
Adjust your diet accordingly
FirstSkirt, No one vetted Obama. If anyone tries bad things start happening, like
calls to the DOJ to investigate their donors, etc. My husband is from Chicago and
of course he is keeping me up on Chicago and Illinois politics. Of course it has been
awhile since he has lived there and he thinks maybe they’ve changed, but not necessarily for the better.
The female talking head on our local Fox channel, said, tonight, that Everyone Is
DEMANDING To Know More About Sarah Palin And Her Pregnant 17 Yr Old Daughter.
What a crock! We’re not hearing that we would all like to know more about BO.
A Hockey Mom that I’m sure could gut a Bear, a peacock or even a tiger for that matter.
TXRose
Your posts are hard to read. Please use the ‘enter key’ only after a period. The text box will ‘wrap’ it for you. Otherwise your goin’ great.
If you were talking about a man running for office who took his son to baseball games, it would be admirable. It would be in the big old sappy montage about how wonderful he is for sparing the time to drive his kid to the ballpark. Nobody would ask, “do you really want a baseball dad dealing with Iran?”
I learned a cold hard fact about myself this past week: I am a second-class citizen. But unfortunately for you, I do have the right to vote.
I found that the Democratic party left me in the 90′s. That was when I sat down and decided what was important to me and which part clearly supported my beliefs. That’s when I became a Republican. I’ve always been conservative but was raised in a Democratic household. Now I’m in charge of my own household. No Dems here.
I found that the Democratic party left me in the 90′s. That was when I sat down and decided what was important to me and which part clearly supported my beliefs. That’s when I became a Republican. I’ve always been conservative but was raised in a Democratic household. Now I’m in charge of my own household. No Dems here.
Home Run hit out of the park tonight by Sarah Palin. You go girl!
On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:09 pm, Adlib said:
On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:47 pm, Eyas said:
It’s called the internet. Use it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States#Duties
I am deeply, yes truly and profoundly sorry for referring to the Vice President as the President “Pro tempore” of the Senate. As Adlib correctly points out, the Vice President is the “President” of the Senate, and the person who typically actually DOES the job in the VP’s place is called the “President Pro Tempore”.
Thank you, Adlib, for pointing out that this is yet another responsibility that the Vice President of the United States actually DOES NOT have. Making the post even more pointless than I may have led others to believe.
By the way, Adlib, when you post a link purportedly proving someone wrong (e.g. ostensibly PROVING the MANY, MANY, utterly crucial duties of the VP), you might want to:
a) read the link yourself; and,
b) expect the person it is directed to to actually read the link.
For example — the very FIRST SENTENCE of the link you provided which states:
“The formal powers and role of the vice president are limited by the Constitution to becoming President should the President become unable to serve… and acting as the presiding officer of the U.S. Senate.”
You may also not want to harp on the mistaken use of one term (President Pro Tempore), and display your own ignorance so freely.
Finally, your sources for making your arguments should probably not be limited to Wikipedia and Google searches.