Isn’t it ironic…

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 3, 2008 10:37 AM

Reader Diana e-mails:

“Isn’t it ironic that most major newspapers will not print the names of minors involved in criminal acts including murder, but they can trash Bristol Palin? Just proves the drive-by media is driven to despicable double standards.”

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  1. #436222
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 12:57 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Yes. It’s sites like HuffPo that have to shut down comments when a conservative dies. I haven’t seen any right-wing site gleeful about Ted Kennedy’s brain tumor.

    Because I do not know how to do it.
    Perhaps ‘Gleeful’ would be to harsh. ‘Not terribly upset’ about the SOB finally croaking might be better. If the gutless drunk had even TRIED to pull Mary Jo Kopeckne from the water we could feel different. He is a callous and selfish lout and does not deserve our sympathy.
    And don’t any of you left wing liar SOBs try to sell us that crap about his repeated tries to save her. She died in the back seat, not the front as he claimed–she was trying to get out when he left.

  2. #436225
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 12:58 pm, johnsteele said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:22 am, asheman said:
    I wonder if Michelle Obama thinks this is good for Sarah’s children?

    Do you suppose that Michelle Obama actually cares?

  3. #436238
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:02 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 12:49 pm, Regulus said: Remember in September of 2004, when Bill Clinton had a heart attack? When the news was broken at a Bush campaign event, the AP reporter there claimed that Republicans in the audience “booed” at the news. A tape recording of the event later proved that no such reaction took place. But it sounded like what the reporter wished that Republicans would do, so he lied.

    Thank God we have cameras everywhere now so they can capture events and document what REALY happened. Otherwise, the liberals could make up anything they wanted and turn it into facts and we would have no way of refuting them.

  4. #436243
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:04 pm, James Felix said:

    A vice presidential candidate’s minor daughter being pregnant is newsworthy.

    Really? How so? She’s not running for anything & she’s not campaigning for her mother. How does this have anything to do with the election?

    When you try to answer keep these things in mind. First, Michelle Obama has been an active, high-profile member of her husband’s campaign and will obviously influence the policy decisions Obama makes. She spoke at their freaking convention. And yet shining a light on her self-professed loathing of this great nation is supposed to be off limits.

    Two, Barack Obama has exposed his own children week after week, since birth, to the worst kind of racist, anti-American bile this side of the KKK. But to point this out is a “distraction” and not newsworthy.

    Finally, Obama has had a long time personal, financial and political association with an admitted terrorist. But that also is a distraction, and not newsworthy.

    So go ahead, explain to me why this young woman’s life is newsworthy in a way that Obama’s troubling associations aren’t.

  5. #436278
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:17 pm, md1964 said:

    The term “Drive By Media” is just so 2001…

    The more accurate term today is: “Obama Cult Media”.

  6. #436294
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Speaking of Obama, if one of his daughters got pregnant, do you really think that there would be a respectful response from this site?

    Yes, but I’d check the linen closet anyway. (Reagan, trust but verify).

    Facetious answer, but seriously, Obama would make a little speech to his friends in the media, and the story would die by mid-afternoon.

    But that’s hypothetical, and this is real – news media are dumpster-diving in Alaska even as we speak. Let’s talk about her accomplishments instead of 20 year old DUIs of someone who isn’t running. Or about cutting the budget, driving out corrupt members of her own party, not being afraid of the oil companies that drive Alaska’s budget, 80% popularity…
    But no, the media want DNA samples of the daughter and Trig.

    Something tells me someone who earned the nickname barracuda isn’t going to quit.

  7. #436295
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm, garydt said:

    The bible predicts how the world or the MSM will treat a pro-life Christian. Jesus Himself said “They will hate you because they first Hated me”. Any Christian will be hated by the world’s system when a True Christain runs for office or is in public life.

  8. #436298
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 pm, Adlib said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 am, Paul Revere said:

    Awesome article! My favorite part:

    The genius Bobby Jindal, out to reform Louisiana as Palin reformed Alaska, awaits the 2012 VP nomination with Sarah at the top of the ticket, if McCain wins this election.

    One can only hope.

  9. #436300
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm, atheling said:

    Rusty butt dribbled:

    Speaking of Obama, if one of his daughters got pregnant, do you really think that there would be a respectful response from this site?

    Considering the fact that his oldest child is only 9 years old, I’d wanna get my gun and shoot the bastard who raped her.

  10. #436304
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:28 pm, MBuck said:

    Kos had something TREMENDOUSLY funny to say on the matter of Bristol’s pregnancy:

    The Diary section of Daily Kos Web site had a curious way to make Palin’s daughter into a campaign issue: “Considering Palin was chosen solely for her religious right family values cred, Bristol’s shotgun marriage and pregnancy are very fair game. They are the direct result of this lunatic abstinence-only garbage, and should be highlighted as such.”

    Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but:
    If Bristol had actually abstained, would she BE pregnant right now? I mean, silly me, but I don’t think so.

    And frankly, so long as she marries the daddy, I don’t even HAVE a problem with her pregnancy.

  11. #436324
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:34 pm, FamilyMan said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 am, englishqueen01 said:The NYT – since when did a pregnant 17 year old need three front-page news stories?

    When the editor is obviously lacking a strong moral foundation.

  12. #436327
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm, nyc123me said:

    Keep it up dems – if obama had ANY honor whatsoever, he’s withdraw his nomination should this disgusting behavior continue.

    unfortunately he has no honor.

  13. #436328
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm, Rusty said:

    Considering the fact that his oldest child is only 9 years old, I’d wanna get my gun and shoot the bastard who raped her.

    Touche. I meant a hypothetical older daughter.

    We see in others what we carry in our own hearts. You’re making the common liberal logical error of attributing to others characteristics you wish they’d have, rather than what’s actually there.

    Ah, but that’s not the case. I’ve been reading these threads for a long time. A common attack on the Obamas is that they don’t have good values. And on any thread regarding race, there are always people who chide black single mothers and the welfare state.

    I’m not projecting. I’m dealing with my own experience here.

  14. #436332
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Rusty said:

    MBuck, the reason that Bristol’s pregnancy is fair game (uncomfortable fair game, but fair game nevertheless) was the press release the Palin and McCain campaigns released to announce the pregnancy.

    The gist of no one is forcing her to have this baby, this is her choice…

    Well, these are two politicians who are celebrating Bristol’s choice while trying to take it away from everyone else. That’s a problem that needs to be highlighted.

  15. #436346
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:47 pm, James Felix said:

    MBuck, the reason that Bristol’s pregnancy is fair game (uncomfortable fair game, but fair game nevertheless) was the press release the Palin and McCain campaigns released to announce the pregnancy.

    Pretty weak rationalization, considering that they only announced it to rebut rumors about the Palin family that were even more grotesque.

    Well, these are two politicians who are celebrating Bristol’s choice while trying to take it away from everyone else. That’s a problem that needs to be highlighted.

    That’s an even weaker rationalization. If they were taking her to have an abortion while campaigning against Roe v Wade then maybe, maybe you’d have a point. But that’s not the case. This is a family that is practicing what they preach, which (theoretically) is what we want our leaders to do.

    Whatever your stance on abortion you should be arguing it on the merits. You don’t need to drag this particular young woman into it.

    And I’m still waiting to hear you explain how she’s important to the campaign in a way that Michelle, Ayers, Wright, Rezco et al aren’t.

  16. #436353
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:48 pm, Greywolf said:

    why is the msm in full attack mode on Bristol Palin?

    They had nothing to go on with Sarah Palin. She was a dark horse they didn’t think had a shot at all in being picked and they didn’t have reams of stories pre-prepared to attack her with.

    Let’s examine how the media would have handled the “Short list” from last week.

    Romney: Now I like Romney and think he would have been a great pick.

    The msm would have loved this pick also. We would have been inundated with story after story about the FLDS down in Texas and the press bending over backwards linking Romney to the polygamists.

    Ridge: A game closer and the msm would have had reams of Homeland Security horror stories. Stories about domestic spying and Katrina failures.

    Pawlenty: Not well known but it’s real easy to predict the msm response. Story after story on the crumbling infrastructure and five days of seeing a collapsed bridge.

    And the msm’s most favorite?

    Joe Leiberman: Why? Well every story they would have printed would have actually been the truth with him. The total destruction of the Republican party as we know it with crashing poll numbers and screaming conservatives running away from a campaign that crapped on it’s base.

  17. #436355
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    And I’m still waiting to hear you explain how she’s important to the campaign in a way that Michelle, Ayers, Wright, Rezco et al aren’t.

    Get used to waiting. Rusty, nyk and MJ are demonstrably incapable of critical thought regarding these issues.

  18. #436357
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm, b-cat said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Rusty said:
    Speaking of Obama, if one of his daughters got pregnant, do you really think that there would be a respectful response from this site? Of course not. It would be about how the Obamas don’t have values and how it’s another black single mother.

    You’re assuming they wouldn’t be married because they’re black? Racist. How high is that horse?

  19. #436360
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:52 pm, navywife91 said:

    You’re assuming they wouldn’t be married because they’re black? Racist. How high is that horse?

    Sorry, Rusty, but that’s funny.

  20. #436368
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:57 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm, b-cat said:
    You’re assuming they wouldn’t be married because they’re black? Racist. How high is that horse?

    :D

  21. #436405
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:16 pm, fulldroolcup said:

    Rusty, one of our resident trolls, wrote:

    Think about why they do this.

    Yes, lets!!!

    A vice presidential candidate’s minor daughter being pregnant is newsworthy.

    Why? Because you say so? And what is the “newsworthy” aspect? Spell it out.

    There is no way to cover the name.

    You’ve simply assumed the pregnancy is newsworthy!

    “Sarah Palin’s daughter is pregnant. She will not be named.”

    See above.

    That narrows it down to two people!

    But that’s not all they said. And you know it. That pregnancy is being used in an attempt to smear the daughter and palin. I guess you conveniently missed that. Or is smearing people “newsworthy”?

    Also, media outlets won’t name minors accused of crimes if they’re juveniles…

    Her daughter has NOT been charged with a crime, you idiot!!

    16 or under. Bristol is 17. If she murdered someone, she’d be named.

    And my grandmother had balls, she have been my grandfather!!!

  22. #436427
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:25 pm, fulldroolcup said:

    Rusty’s comment about how “we” would be criticizing the Obamas if one of their kids were pregnant misses one crucial point:

    “We” don’t control the MSM.

    If he wants to argue that “we” would do what the MSM is doing, he’s welcome to make that case —except he’ll be admitting that the MSM is overwhelmingly liberal.

    Remember when Jizzy Jackson knocked up his mistress? Remember the great 24/7 right-wing media campaign on TV and in the print media against him? Remember those wingnuts hunting down his mistress and hounding her for her “feelings”?

    Me neither.

  23. #436481
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm, TXRose said:

    OT…Christopher Estep, do you have any relatives in Ok. 45 miles west of
    Ft Smith, AR to be exact. This would be one of my sisters and bil.
    Wizbang is loaded with good stuff today. Have spent my lunch hour there.
    Also….I figure that the way Sarah Palin has energized conservatives, that
    Joe Biden is trying on skirts as we speak.

  24. #436484
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:44 pm, FamilyMan said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Rusty said:
    Well, these are two politicians who are celebrating Bristol’s choice while trying to take it away from everyone else

    Again: The only reason others have a choice now is because the mentally vacant judiciary has failed at their duties to interpret the constitution. The constitution is not a living document. There is no right to an abortion. It is a creation of the court.

  25. #436509
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 2:56 pm, TXRose said:

    Personally, I tried to watch a video today in which somone whose first name was
    Keira was talking about Bristol Palin and I had to throw up and brush my teeth
    because of all the garbage she was spewing on CNN, I think.
    I’m also ticked because NBC and CBS did not show Fred’s speech last night. These brainless wonders consider a teenage pregnancy to be more important
    than a speech at the RNC. This is the MSM? They should be so proud of
    themselves.
    sarc/off

  26. #436536
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm, James Felix said:

    There is no right to an abortion. It is a creation of the court.

    Straying a little off topic here, but I think the whole problem with the abortion debate is that we’re arguing the wrong issue. There is really only one relevant question: at what point does something change from a clump of cells into a child?

    That’s the only question that matters, because if you answer that question you answer all the others. If you have a clump of cells then you can have it removed at will, the same way you can an appendix or wisdom tooth. If it’s a child the harming it is assault or murder, period. It would be no more a “privacy issue” than any other form of child abuse.

    That’s why I think that in the long term the pro-life side will win. The advances in ultrasound and other technologies are making it harder and harder to deny the humanity of that “clump of cells”, and harder to rationalize killing it as a “choice”.

  27. #436546
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:04 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The NY Times web site has a nice picture of Levi Johnston on it’s home page at the moment. Pretty newsworthy – since he’s running for – no wait, he’s a teen caught in the glare of the MSM railroad. Actually, in a way I like it. The two young people have assumed responsibility for their behavior. I think Sarah ‘Cuda has teeth…

  28. #436548
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:04 pm, Rusty said:

    Also, media outlets won’t name minors accused of crimes if they’re juveniles…

    Her daughter has NOT been charged with a crime, you idiot!!

    Wow, you are a moron. Before calling me names, try reading the original post.

    “Isn’t it ironic that most major newspapers will not print the names of minors involved in criminal acts including murder, but they can trash Bristol Palin? Just proves the drive-by media is driven to despicable double standards.”

    I was just pointing out she would be named if she were involved in a criminal act.

    As for smears…what? What smears? It’s not a smear to say Bristol Palin is pregnant. It’s a fact.

  29. #436570
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:10 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Rusty
    Where in the constitution is it stated there is a right to an abortion?

  30. #436610
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:20 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Rusty

    Well, these are two politicians who are celebrating Bristol’s choice while trying to take it away from everyone else.

    You brought the subject up. What constitutional choice is Palin trying to take away?

  31. #436621
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:24 pm, lgm said:

    All this bruhaha is being orchestrated by the Republican party, probably to take attention away from the many real bad things about Palin.

    Let’s be clear about what’s happening here. Overwhelmingly, reporters are pressing eminently reasonable questions — her role in troopergate, her lack of experience, her connections to the AIP, her history of earmarking and lobbyists, etc. Meanwhile, the McCain campaign is going absolutely non-stop about Palin’s daughter. It is unmistakable.

  32. #436630
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm, James Felix said:

    As for smears…what? What smears? It’s not a smear to say Bristol Palin is pregnant. It’s a fact.

    Here are some other documented, indisputable facts:

    1) Obama has no problem working and socializing with a terrorist that has murdered Americans and in fact regrets not killing more of them.
    2) Obama sat for decades and listened approvingly to racism and lunatic conspiracy theories masquerading as religion. Rather than leave and condemn this behavior he brought his kids.
    3) His wife, clearly a major influence in his life, has at best a dim view of America and what it represents.

    Those and many other facts are dismissed as smears by your idealogical compatriots. Are you going to call them on it?

  33. #436637
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:28 pm, wighttrasch said:

    her role in troopergate

    ,

    why are you bringing Hillary into this???

  34. #436660
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:38 pm, James Felix said:

    All this bruhaha is being orchestrated by the Republican party…

    Of course. If history teaches us anything it’s that the RNC is shrewd and competant enough to manipulate the entire media.

    /sarc off

    Let’s be clear about what’s happening here. Overwhelmingly, reporters are pressing eminently reasonable questions — her role in troopergate,

    For whatever role she had in firing a trooper who’d use a tazer on a child she should be applauded.

    her lack of experience,

    This from an Obama supporter. That’s just too rich.

    her connections to the AIP,

    Which are much less substantial and consequential than Obama’s connection to terrorists and professional bigots

    her history of earmarking and lobbyists, etc.

    Again, this from a guy whose candiate is in bed with Rezco and whose running mate’s son is a lobbyist.

    Meanwhile, the McCain campaign is going absolutely non-stop about Palin’s daughter. It is unmistakable.

    Damn, lgm’s onto us! Alert the VRWC, we need to switch to plan B!!!

    Seriously man, you need to get your meds adjusted or something.

  35. #436699
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm, navywife91 said:

    All this bruhaha is being orchestrated by the Republican party, probably to take attention away from the many real bad things about Palin.

    Wow, Karl Rove is awesome!

    Do you guys use Reynold’s aluminum foil or the store brand?

  36. #436700
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:54 pm, atheling said:

    Yo, Kapo Lgm:

    Are you enjoying the way the media and the Obamatons are participating in the “politics of personal destruction”? Isn’t that Hillary’s phrase?

    Like seeing them beat up a 17 year old girl, kapo?

  37. #436740
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:13 pm, St. Louis Blue said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:24 pm, lgm said:

    All this bruhaha (sic) is being orchestrated by the Republican party…

    Rove! You magnificent bastard! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

  38. #436759
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 pm, LarryD said:

    I think Rusty et al need to read this:

    What’s curious about all this is the way that the lefties (including the MSM) are trying to tailor their message to what they perceive as being the way the evangelical right thinks about things. But what they’re actually doing is believing their own lies and propaganda, and thus attempting to appeal to a gross caricature instead. (And in so doing they are revealing an extremely deep and unacknowledged bigotry.)

    When they don’t get the reaction they expect, I’m expecting to start hearing claims of politically-motivated hypocrisy. The logic will be that the Christians are not living up to the caricature that the left holds of the Christians’ views. The Christians won’t act the way that the lefties think Christians should act in a situation like this, which is to go with the full Scarlet Letter treatment on the Palin family, a rejection of the McCain ticket, a refusal to vote, and thus an Obama victory in November.

    So as an atheist, let me take you on a tour of Christianity, OK? Christians believe in sin, confession, penance, forgiveness, and redemption. Christians don’t cast out sinners, they cast out sinners who do not repent. And in fact they don’t even do that.

  39. #436761
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pm, St. Louis Blue said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am, Christopher Estep said:

    I have a better question: How many people can name even one of Obama’s children?

    I can name both. Somalia (aka Malia) and Kinsasha (aka Sasha).

    Edwards’ kids are named Dewey, Cheatham and Howe. Edwards’ wife is Rielle.

    Send the check to St. Louis!

  40. #436765
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:22 pm, James Felix said:

    So as an atheist, let me take you on a tour of Christianity, OK? Christians believe in sin, confession, penance, forgiveness, and redemption. Christians don’t cast out sinners, they cast out sinners who do not repent. And in fact they don’t even do that.

    Let me speak as a Jesuit-educated athiest.

    He’s right.

  41. #436812
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm, St. Louis Blue said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 pm, LarryD said:

    I think Rusty et al need to read this:

    Dare to dream LarryD. Having observed “Rusty” for at least six months, I can attest that he lacks the capacity to reason. His only motivation in life is getting a little as much consequence-free sumpn’, sumpn’ for Rusty as possible.

    Don’t stand between him and his caveman impulses.

  42. #436854
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 4:48 pm, TXRose said:

    On a Wizbang thread some nutcase named toby said that Gov Palin is not a
    Christian who practices Christian values, because, if she was, her daughter would
    not be pregnant. Toby also states that because of this, he/she will not be voting
    for McCain/Palin. ( I guess BO/JB are sooooo Christian that this is where that
    much vaunted vote will be cast). Apparently, this brain surgeon has never known
    a family where the parents taught their children values and the child/children
    went out and did something completely opposite what they were taught. Even
    happens to stay at home Moms.
    What I am enjoying is watching the dems trying to figure out ( and consistently
    getting it wrong ) how conservatives, and primarily, conservative women think
    about out of wedlock pregnancies. I guess they have no experience with this
    state, since of their’s all end in abortions. They also seem to think that the normal
    male will be turned off by a gun toting woman who is a proficient hunter and
    fisherman (woman,person, what IS pc here?). Think again. I have a bil that
    will be voting GOP for the first time because of her.

  43. #436919
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm, rambler said:

    The MSM doesn’t report the immigration status of criminal illegals until they have to. They avoided reporting on John Edward’s affair while they were all over the remote possibility that McCain may have had a relationship with another woman. The MSM just can’t defend this type of selective reporting. I guess their chosen candidate just isn’t stong enough to win the election with his abilities and needs all this nonsense to improve his status.

  44. #437107
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:18 pm, TXRose said:

    OT..Here’s one. I just read that Hispanics are being hit hardest by job cutbacks and are losing full time jobs and having to work part time jobs. The
    first Hispanic named was Brazilian and citizen was written in his description.
    The second was a woman (single Mother) and her description was very carefully worded but had no mention of her being a citizen or an illegal which
    automatically set off bells and whistles.
    Now, we had a newlywed couple killed over the weekend by an Hispanic who
    has had 4 DUI’s and was driving on a suspended license (yet the police let him
    drive away from the traffic stop and kill this couple and hurt others). I have
    noticed that there is no mention of citizenship or the lack thereof. Why wasn’t he in prison or at the least, not allowed to drive away from the police
    that night?

  45. #437121
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:24 pm, emjem24 said:

    Isn’t it ironic… that children of opposition politicins are useful to liberals when they need to trash a politician (ahem Sarah Palin) they don’t like?

    Isn’t it ironic… that children who don’t fit into the life plans of liberals are discarded as easily as original ideas by the Obamesiah?

  46. #437166
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 6:43 pm, Fenguri said:

    Hopefully wide access to the internet will permit citizens who wish to be well-informed the means to become so. It takes only a click to check facts and figures, or to be exposed to an opposition point of view. I pray many Americans make good use of this, and don’t allow slick lies to direct their votes.

  47. #437216
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm, DavidHughes said:

    I don’t have a problem with Gov. Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy being made public as much as I do the double standard from the media. Wasn’t Jamie Lynne Spears hailed as a brave and hip girl when news hit the press about her pregnancy at 16? I’m asking because I have to admit I don’t follow the tabloid trash much (though it’s hard to escape, when the NYT and WaPo start printing less important and factual stories than the National Enquirer).

    Ever wonder what the reaction of the MSM and Dems would be if it had been made public that Ms. Palin had an abortion, rather than choosing life? Honestly, it wouldn’t matter. This is a no win situation as far as the privacy of the Palin family goes. I do think it will seriously backfire on the media, though. I suspect the McCain campaign and Palin’s believe that, as well. It has to be hard on Bristol, to have this made so public, but in the long run— she and her family will come out of this stronger, and the Dems will have been irreparably harmed for allowing it to get out of hand, particularly after the fuss made over respecting Michelle O’s privacy. Sarah Palin wouldn’t be where she is today if she turned into a whining, defensive little brat when someone try to call her out on something… only a Democrat with the media still fawning over a ‘fist-bump’ with the spouse can get away with something like that.

    Hmmm. I just realized something. I spent the better part of the past 8 years sticking up for GW Bush by telling colleagues, friends, family members, and students that one can’t make it to the highest office in the land without at least some intelligence and integrity. Apparently, one can, with enough backing from the media and enough people who get their news from the ‘Daily Show’ or ‘The View’ going to the polls in November. The only way Obama has made it into any office is by media hype and underhanded slighting of his opponents… will be interesting to see how that works against folks with as much backbone and resilience as his opponents in this race.

  48. #437233
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 7:21 pm, emjem24 said:

    Fenguri:

    I pray you’re right. I’ve heard a lot of misconceptions on who actually pays most of the taxes and who doesn’t. This from my own mother who I’ve encouraged to actually get a computer. Ironically, she’s a computer programmer who doesn’t actually have her own computer. :roll:

    Unfortunately, there is a segment of people out there (ahem, liberal women and minorities) who cannot think for themselves. Then, there are the one issue voters like my sisters-in-law who always vote for Dems because of abortion or gun control. Research will not impact these voters.

    Another worrying trend is the youth of our country, the segment of our country who has just recently graduated from our public schools. It is hard to rebut indoctrination if it’s the only source of information you have, as a kid, and it’s not being refuted at home. These are kids who are the most vulnerable about the direction of our country, who see their parents and families struggling, and are told if they and said relatives just rely on the guvmint, everything will be okey dokey.

    It doesn’t take much to got to a public library and surf the net. However, it takes a lot of nerve and effort to open your mind and look at what the other side is saying. Believe me, I know what it’s like to give the other side the benefit of the doubt, having grown up in a college town where the liberal mindset was the norm not the exception.

    I just don’t think many Americans are up for more “self-reliance” anymore. This presidential election has become more about style than substance. McCain has even asked Obummer to accompany him on a townhall tour with little success. That’s the type of intransigence that the country will get with Obummer. If he can’t show up for a townhall debate tour, how likely will he be to dialogue with the other side?

    I hope you’re right and I’m wrong. Unfortunately, given the increasing breakdown of the family (I’ve seen this as a teacher) and the lack of parenting in childrens’ lives these days, young people are being told that self-reliance is old school and that Bid Daddy Government is the real power in their lives. You can’t trust that other fuddy duddy party, or your own family, but you can trust the state.

    We are becoming increasingly like Chavez’ socialist dicatorship where the lemmings would rather get a handout in exchange for not thinking for themselves. We have millions of Americans with this mentality and all the independent research in the world won’t blunt this reality. :sad:

  49. #437324
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:24 pm, Uplander said:

    TXRose
    Your posts are hard to read. Please use the ‘enter key’ only after a period. The text box will ‘wrap’ it for you. Otherwise your goin’ great.

  50. #437362
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 8:44 pm, TXRose said:

    Uplander,
    I really don’t know what you are talking about. I’m just barely computer literate
    as you can see when the post “breaks up” but why should I use the enter key? I
    am using a macbook pro. All I have used a computer for before this was work,
    back when I was an Accountant. Never had the time between being Wife, Mom,
    Working Mother, Dance Instructor, Chauffeur, Homemaker to spend “idle time”
    on computer. Now, I am counseling full time and have been soooo busy that
    I am just this past week getting a little extra time.
    Please, give me any tips that will help. Thank You

  51. #437539
    On September 3rd, 2008 at 9:40 pm, DavidHughes said:

    Well, I guess I need to retract the earlier statement about the Nat’l Enquirer having more journalistic integrity than the NYT or WaPo— seems they have jumped on the ‘Smear Sarah Palin’ bandwagon. If the ‘Fairness Doctrine’ ever gets a foothold in this country, the only news we’ll ever see or hear will be info-tainment and tabloid trash.

  52. #438186
    On September 4th, 2008 at 1:05 am, Flyover State said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Rusty said:
    Speaking of Obama, if one of his daughters got pregnant, do you really think that there would be a respectful response from this site? Of course not. It would be about how the Obamas don’t have values and how it’s another black single mother.

    Don’t hurt yourself getting off your high horses.

    Going by what Obama has said so far we probably wouldn’t know about it. But if the teenage daughter of anyone at all got pregnant, anyone – friend, foe, politician, whatever – my response would be, “Congratulations. I’m sure there will be some tough times ahead, but there will be far, far more joyful ones.”

    So you can get off your own high horse, mister.

  53. #438247
    On September 4th, 2008 at 1:51 am, Jet Jaguar said:

    On September 3rd, 2008 at 3:24 pm, lgm said:

    All this bruhaha is being orchestrated by the Republican party, probably to take attention away from the many real bad things about Palin.

    lgm, you know, there are medicines that can help you with your condition… and just to show you that I’m sincere, I take those kinds of medications myself. Seriously, as one human being to another, get help. I did and my wife did. It really works.

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