Hey, Obama: Fight the Smears
I wrote a special column today for the NYPost on how Barack Obama must do more to fight the smears — originating with members of his own team and extended family of slavering supporters — against Sarah Palin.
Megyn Kelly ripped a bumbling Us Weekly stooge here.
Erick Erickson of RedState has a suggestion: “We should encourage our readers to take the US Weekly magazines at their local grocery stores and stick them in the toilet paper section.” Hey, that’s an insult to the toilet paper.
Reader Kirk: “Why doesn’t the McCain camp ask Obama to return the money from the US Weekly owner?”
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How Bam buds are smearing Sarah
by Michelle Malkin
Special to the NYPost
Copyright 2008
WHEN you point a finger, the old say ing goes, three fingers point back at you. When it comes to accusing his opponents of spreading vicious rumors, Barack Obama needs to pull back his finger and follow the other three.
Told of accusations that members of his team facilitated the avalanche of smears against GOP veep nominee Sarah Palin, he scoffed: “I am offended by that statement; there is no evidence at all that any of this involved us.” Obama insisted: “We don’t go after people’s families, we don’t get them involved in the politics. It is not appropriate and it is not relevant. Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be.”
Hmm. Depends on the meaning of “our people.” The new issue of Us Weekly hits newsstands Friday – hitting millions of readers with a smirk-attack on Gov. Palin, shown with her youngest son, Trig, in a photo plainly chosen to make her look weird.
The cover line: “BABIES, LIES & SCANDAL,” along with these juicy bullet-items:
“* Under attack, admits daughter, 17, is pregnant
“* Investigated for firing of sister’s ex-husband
“* Mom of five: New embarrassing surprises”
The story reads like a partisan hit job because, well, it is. Pimping the “report” to journalists at the Republican National Convention was Mark Neschis – a former Democrat flack turned corporate-communications chief for US Weekly’s owner, Wenner Media.
Wenner’s chief is Jann Wenner, a big-time Obama donor. In March, his flagship Rolling Stone ran a cover story dubbing Obama “The New Hope in the accompanying editorial, Wenner oozed: “We need to recover the spiritual and moral direction that should describe our country and ourselves.” In the July issue, he fawned over The Messiah’s “dazzling smile” in a seven-page sitdown interview. Rolling Stone put Obama’s face on the cover again over the summer. In June, Us Weekly ran a gushing cover story on Michelle and Barack Obama headlined, “Why Barack Loves Her.”
Obama could begin Wenner’s “spiritual and moral” recovery by condemning the use of gossip rags to wage partisan war on the Palin family.
And the Dem nominee can make good on his vow to fire smear-mongers by cutting loose one of his own people.
On Tuesday, much of the media – spurred by Obama supporters and left-wing blogs – falsely spread claims that Palin had been a member of the Alaskan Independence Party – many of whose members espouse secession. No state records exist of Palin’s membership in the party – and she’s been a registered Republican for more than a quarter-century. The New York Times had to retreat from its story on Palin’s “radical” ties, but the damage was done.
And Team Obama’s rumor-spreading wasn’t done yet. The Associated Press points to “Obama advisers and surrogates” who linked Palin this week to “conservative former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan.”
Mark Bubriski – Obama’s Florida spokesman – was one of those linkers. He sent an e-mail to the Miami Herald claiming: “Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.”
Wrong again. Palin attended a Buchanan visit to Alaska that year, but backed Steve Forbes’ White House run.
Offended yet, Barack?
To date, Bubriski has offered no apology and suffered no consequences. Meanwhile, MoveOn (which has endorsed Obama) has mass e-mailed the lie to thousands of activists.
Incensed at what it saw as unfair attacks on his character and family, the Obama campaign bought the domain name fightthesmears.com and launched an all-out effort in June to combat baseless rumors. But the site has been rather sleepy since its splashy debut.
To effect some change (and undo the damage done by his friends), maybe Obama would be willing to turn Fight the Smears over to Palin?
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BO can’t rely on exposing opponents with their divorce decrees to win the POTUS. What a piece of work. So he’s the “I’m not Bush” candidate. Big deal. Other than being full of himself, what does he have going for him? He’s worn out the race card. He’s jokes aren’t funny. We don’t need another democratic narcissist in the White House.
democratic narcissist – redundant
Funny thing about party affiliation. They accused Palin of being part of the AIP even though there is no evidence.
Then the same people turn around and ignore the FACT that Obama completed a questionaire to become the approved candidate of the “New Party” in Illinois. The New Party appears to be a collection of leftists too far left to be in the Democrat Party!
Go take a look at the undemocratic thing the NEW PARTY is trying to pull now! http://www.newparty.org/.
Check out this quote from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Party_(USA)
And check out these links:
http://archive.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/barack_obama_sought_the_new_partys_endorsement_knowing_it_was_a_radical_left_organization
Get serious. Obama has spoken out against attacking her family. Her record is fair game. If the media gets it wrong, she has a microphone, a keyboard, and surrogates to use as tools to defend herself. FoxNews, conservative radio, and blogs like this also defend her. To suggest that Obama should start dedicating a portion of his campaign to fight smears against Palin is LOL funny. He is busy trying to win an election you know. Politics is nasty, and her record and associations, along with her husband’s may, or may not harm her. The same goes for Barack and Michelle. I’ve never seen so much crying and victimhood from this site before Palin arrived on the scene.
Oh my you were wrong. It turns out that Palin was the one distorting Obama. She must be really good. I’ve been watching, and I never even noticed. From Politico:
Thank goodness the truth is out Palin really had me fooled. Truth is the first victim of…..
Omu — if you need help with the big words, just let us know.
Is this another example of a “do as I say, not as I do” Democrat, Obummer?
The smears on Palin have Obummer’s mitt prints all over the overreaction of the media to Palin’s VP candidacy. This is a campaign that has said that Obummer is more experienced than Palin but after Palin’s speech, Palin is now a “deft, Washington insider.”
Unfortunately, there are more accusations by Dems and their media that Palin had no input into the speech or didn’t contribute to it. Sorry, not buying these assertions from a campaign that needs Hollywood sets and “prepared speeches” to sell a know-nothing, do-nothing Dem candidate.
The Dems and their media sock puppets wouldn’t know truth if it smacked them in the face.
It’s called sarcasm.
No one here thinks Sarah is a victim and I think that’s blatantly clear in the majority of the posts. Most, if not all of the “crying” your talking about is directed towards her 17 year old daughter. Simply pointing out the hypocrisy of Obama’s smear site and how some of the smears, when traced back through their domains(see previous threads), originate with either supporters or the smear site itself, isn’t whining.
The selection of Governor Palin was a masterful move in the chess game of politics.
However, it’s a bit sad. The huge number of comments on this site and others celebratiing her nomination just indicates how starved people of conservative bent are for someone who represents their views.
I, myself, have been encouraged by her rhetoric. But I’ve been around for a while and I will wait and see if she’s the real deal or not.
Andy McCarthy on why the right loved the Palin Speech and the left hated it.
It almost like he’s talking about lgm, redstateskep, Rusty, and Bemused Lib, doesn’t it?
True, but a hint of logic would be nice. This threads is nuts.IMHO
Supporters smear the opposition. That’s part of politics. Obama has been smeared as a Muslim, a terrorist sympathizer, and bisexual crackhead. McCain was smeared in South Carolina, 2000 as having PTSD, and fathering a black baby out of wedlock. Those smears were from fellow conservatives, the dirtiest players in the game. Obama should only worry about smears against his family, himself and his record. Palin isn’t too good for politics as usual. Too suggest Obama should give a spit about Palin when he’s trying to fight for the presidency against the dirtiest players in the game is asinine.
Dirtiest players, huh?……. you couldn’t tell a dirty player if the democrat spit on you, evidently. You’re defense of Obama is admirable only in the sense that you will wear your blinders at all times to do so. …you totally ignore the domain source for the smears and say nothing of the provable media slants and leaked info that has been a practice of Obama since his precinct days.
This run for the White House is like the early-mid 1800s. Let the mud-slinging begin. Who cares about the issues….
mistressjustice said:
But I thought Obama was a different kind of politician…
Stay classy, mj.
Is it true that the Obam campaign’s new theme song is “Running on Empty” by Jackson Browne?
MJ said:
Did he not spend a good chunk of his childhood learning about Islam in Indonesia? Of course this doesn’t make him Muslim per se but to suggest Obama is being treated by the right as if it’s a Dreyfus affair isn’t intellectually honest either. Obama spent a good chunk of his childhood in a place where they teach you it’s OK to cut a woman’s throat like a pig if the Man’s bidding isn’t done. Make’s you want to pry into Obama’s mind a little and see what’s there.
Read his book where he pledges alliance with Muslim nations.
Bisexual? Michelle Obama isn’t that bad looking.
As for calling Obama a crackhead you’re being racist. Blacks are called “crackheads” and whites are called “coke heads” Obama was a coke head because he’s mostly white. Chinese are called “opium heads” btw. If you ask me is all the same stuff anyway no matter how you take it.
I stopped watching O’Reilly when he started last year with the Culture Watch “exposes” telling his viewers that putting clips of “immorality in context” was somehow important. When Laura Ingraham appeared asking if the Fox producers were going through a “middle-age crisis” he showed the Miss America tape of her in her nude swimming suit over and over ad nauseum (sp!). From that point on, the Culture Watch segments began featuring more “nude” fuzzy pictures and other vulgar acts that continue to insult the viewers sensibilities with his “warnings” that viewers should tune-out if they choose not to see the segments. Somehow O’Reilly thinks unless somebody comes on his show for an interview they’re “hiding something” and “afraid of him”. The fact that Howard Dean finally allows BHO to appear on O’Reilly the night of John McCain’s acceptance speech AND O’Reilly accepts, with whatever excuses he uses to justify that, is an insult to John McCain and trashes O’Reilly’s so called mantra of “fair & balanced” reporting. Supposedly, BHO will appear on his show next week, also, when attention should be on the interactions of the candidates with the citizens and each other. O’Reilly is really a “fence-sitter” and his smugness and ego have made him the perfect PAWN in the DNC arsenal to undercut the impact of the conservative awakening and fight for America’s future! O’Reilly has bragged that he “criticizes equally” those on either side of an issue. Believe me his criticisms of anyone who vaguely disagrees with the DNC and the secular-progressives is widely circulated as “agreement” with their views! Also, I am tired of “talking heads” telling me what someone just said “really means”! I can figure it out without the endless “analysts” spouting their own biased opinions! jb
You mean the part where he said that in the wake of 9/11, if there was a wave of anti-Muslim violence and discrimination in the US in retaliation, he would stand up to defend them?
Well heck, lets just qoute him:
Was that what you meant, and just worded it really really really badly? Cause I would hate to think you were just making crap up.
Right now, some left loons are passing around a list of books Palin asked to have banned from the library when she was mayor and the list actually comes from http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html. It’s a compendium of ALL books banned anywhere in the United States. They are grasping for straws. Idiots.
Jon Stewart sheds a little light on the right wing’s whining over the Palin criticism. Watch to the end. (Some moderately salty language, if that bothers anyone)
Right Chap, Obama will give the Moors a free pass to Jihad. Beat downs aren’t needed when it’s just religious expression I guess.
Obama wouldn’t want a Democrat to make the same mistake twice. Lol.
If you could please point out the part of the Constitution where it says civil rights only apply to non-Arab Americans, that might be helpful. Otherwise I really don’t see what Obama said in that passage you either mangled or lied about is really that controversial.
I guess you would rather ignore my numerous posts where I have called Obama a “typical” politician. I have stated this since he conveniently renounced Wright, and said it louder when he flipped on public financing.
You’re dang right he’s a politician, but I’d rather have my a-hole in office than yours. I’m not on this blog to be classy, but I will cut through the B.S. and try to remain honest.
Stay phony, Pastor Trollman
Not being snarky here, but are you saying that being called a Muslim is a smear?
Couldn’t help smearing an entire group there yourself?
Yet he did take the time to object to the Bristol Palin attacks (for which I give him credit). The question might be, why don’t his supporters follow his request on that?
Repetition of the ‘dirtiest players’ is really just ad hominem.
The point, I believe, is that when the Obama campaign (or supporters) were fighting ‘smears’, they were ‘anti-smear’. Now that Palin is being smeared you (and others) appear to be clarifying the ‘anti-smear’ to be just ‘anti-Obama-smear’.
Which is all well and good, but the distinction is important.
I do not believe that many here on this site are really worried about how Gov. Palin will handle these attacks.
mistressjustice, chapoutier, bemusedlib and the other trolls here have done a remarkably good job of proving Michelle Malkin and the other Conservative commentators right.
What exactly do those on the left consider a smear anyway? To them a “smear” is when a Conservative tells the truth about a l;iberal. To those on the left when another liberal lies about a Conservative, it’s not a “lie”, it’s “speaking truth to power”.
Senator Joseph McCarthy was right – and now Sarah Palin is following in his footsteps. The difference is that this time we aren’t backing down !!
mistressjustice still ignores the fact that the vicious attacks have been leveled at Palin’s 17 year old daughter, while whining about the attacks and critiques against her Messiah.
What kind of “justice” is she “mistress” of?
Hey I am not the one that tried to smear Obama by literally lying about something Obama wrote in a book, which seems pretty foolish considering one can easily quote what he actually wrote.
I’m not talking about civil rights; I’m talking about Obama cuffing the hands of the FBI, CIA, and other agencies to protect his Muslim brethren that have a tendency to want to kill Christians and Jews en masse. I some moron hick wants to lynch a Muslim out of hate that hick should swing from the gallows.
We’ve seen what happens when intelligence agencies become senescent as they did under Clinton. I have a “feeling” Obama would not be any different.
btw, didn’t I tell you the best way to invade Pakistan would be to do it under wraps? Of coure Obama thinks announcing an operation like this before it happens is the right thing to do.
Yes, absolutely, if it’s a lie with a goal to mislead.
It’s just an opinion. Since 2000, I’ve never seen anything like the conservative attack machine. McCain in South Caroline, 2000 shows what they’ll do to their own. I’ve seen liberals called worse, and I stand by my opinion.
Yes, good point. With all do respect, I think it would be naive to suggest otherwise. This is politics for goodness sake. Children should be off limits, as Obama has stated. People’s records and associations are fair game. It took a long time for the Rev. Wright and Ayers stuff to come out. Palin is new to the national scene, and I hope the media and Obama surrogates dig and dig to find anything damaging, and see what sticks. I can’t believe how some conservatives are taking offense to these tactics. There is nothing new going on here.
OK I’m already late see ya.
No. Actually you said that Obama wanted to pledge allegience to Muslim nations.
If you want to debate legal surveillance techniques in and out of the US, and what Obama would do with respect to that fine. But at least admit you lied in your first statement.
This is perfect…
Sarah! The Anti-Obama
and the responses by chapoutier and mistressjustice merely confirm what I posted. Thanks for playing, trolls!!
Our beauty queen can take down their beauty queen any day of the week!
Nah, this isn’t a lie. I’d suspect it’s true. Maybe we should water board Obama to get to the bottom of it.
Who would break first if they were water boarded? McCain or Obama? Hahahaha.
Consider the facts. I challenge you to rebut even a single one of the TRUTH statements here.
Well in the past few days I learned that women over 40 should have their tubes tied to prevent down syndrome…having 5 children and a career is irresponsible and should be considered criminal neglect….hair really does matter….having a 17 year old pregnant daughter is much worse then a serial adulter who missed it by 4 years child rapist and the liberals feeling threatened index has been raised from fearful to terrified.
What i think is your real strength as a commenter, JHSII, is how you always back up every assertion. You never just throw stuff out there. Like that time I asked you to merely quote my own words to prove what I was saying. Within like seconds BAM! There was the quote.
Oh wait…you mean you DIDN’T find that quote that you said I made, yet still insisted for dozens and dozens of posts that I had?
Sorry. My bad. I had you confused with a non-idiot.
Wait…who’s our beauty queen?
Hmmm….. nope. Still not seeing anywhere where Obama pledges allegiance to Muslim nations.
And recall, Goldwater said it was in his book. Definitely no passages from his books on that link.
Thanks for playing.
I don’t think they’re trolls just because they force a debate.
and here chapoutier projects.
When you told me to quote your own words back to you, I asked why? Are you still too stupid to know what you posted?
Another outright lie by the usual suspect – chapoutier. You posted something and then denied posting it when you were caught.
And the final point of chapoutier’s post is another projection. With every post, chapoutier provem me right again.
Care to prove me wrong on anything, chapoutier?
I’m pretty sure which one of them already has experience with it. But I dont think the technique was called waterboarding in those days.
McCain would break first since he’s already been broken.
Oh yeah.
The Messiah and Bidet got b****slapped last night!
Goldwater Knight #141:
That’s just it, they’re not forcing a debate. To do that they’d have to stop with the ad hominums, smears, lies, personal attacks, and tangents to divert away from actually discussing the topic.
Up until about 4 years ago, I believe it was called “torture”.
I agree with this point, but have doubts about whether or not the Obama campaign agrees with this as a whole.
Without more rhetoric about this being politics (for goodness sake
) – and isn’t Obama supposed to be different from politics as normal? – my issue here is the “see what sticks” part that seems to come without much verifying these days. Granted, that’s the power and detriment of the web. However, if the Obama campaign shares your “see what sticks” view, it is a shame. I would think the same of a McCain campaign that embraced this philosophy.
Redundant.
I never quoted a passage from the book. I said read his book. I said he pledges allegience to Muslim nations which is my take on the book. If you’re suggesting reading between the lines is out of bounds maybe you should ask the ref.
chapoutier does that all the time. He lies, baits and switches, and obfuscates.
No integrity. No honesty. No honor.
Not worth the powder.
You are an idiot and we are not going through this again. If I had said what you claimed I said you would have posted it so you didn’t look like a total fool. Also please note no one else that night was able to find or quote what you claim I said. Even atheling was looking for it and she certainly would have posted it if I had. She hates me.
Who’s our beauty queen?
Scooter36 said:
Har, you sound like the kind of guy who enjoys SPAM and Vegemite.
Yeh so? He doesn’t care nor do I. If you can’t beat him at that game then don’t play. Crying foul doesn’t work too well with Chap does it?
Ahh, yes, those delightful Obamites stating how Obummer is a “new” kind of politician who has made them “believe” in politicians when he’s more of the same, liberal retread, demonize the rich, steal everything you’ve ever earned to give to your sheeple supporters politician.
Let’s cut through the B.S., shall we? What kind of “change” will this guy actually bring? How much will it cost and who will pay for it? How much will he wriggle out of those promises while maintaining that Washington is hard to navigate?
How is your attitude anymore helpful than the generalized maligning you do of conservatives who just want government out of their lives? What do you have against that? Why are the disaffecteds entitled to my money because they are too weak-minded to plan for rough economic times, don’t know jack about economics, and seem to think everyone should go to college?
I don’t believe you have any true ideals except those that you use to perpetuate how liberals will be the only ones that benefit minorities. Perhaps, you could tell that to the urban cess pooles like Detroit where their new kind of politician that Obummer praised before he threw under the bus, got caught lying about an affair he tried to cover up.
You don’t want anything to really change. You want your sad excuse for a party to reap in the power to use over the rest of us. If you don’t think there’s something wrong with Washington and how little Obummer will actually bring, you really need to think again.
Please. If that was really your defense you would have posted that back in #128.
And glad to know you at least admit its not what Obama actually said, but what you claim or want to believe Obama said.
This sad sack of a “feux comedian” couldn’t shed any light out of a Campbell’s soup can. If you’re getting your “news” from this guy, this country really is truly screwed.
Scooter, shut up.
Truth: Russia is an observer nation of the “57 states” of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), whose flag:
Truth: “Allahu Akbar” were the last recorded words of the 9/11 hijackers.
Truth: The Adhan is the Islamic call to prayer, and begins with four recitals of the words “Allahu Akbar“.
Truth: Barack Hussein Obama chose to proudly recite, repeatedly, with a first-rate accent, the same same words (“Allahu Akbar”) that were the last words of the 9/11 hijackers whose intended target was the US Capitol Building.
Truth: Barack Hussein Obama is closley connected to an unrepentant domestic terrorist who bombed the US Capitol Building and said in the 9/11/2001 New York Times,
Truth: Barack Hussein Obama has included the words “bomber” and “hijacked” in his speeches.
Enforce Our Constitution
Red Pill,
Everyone can read your blog for themselves. No need to cite all of your “Truths.”
But let me save everyone else the trouble of visiting. His conclusion is that Obama was apparently like the 21st hijacker or something. Ayers was apparently the 22nd. Or something like that.
Talk about smears.
Ahhhh, we meet again Goldtooth.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Now you can aim for not being sane! You go girl, mmmm-hmmmm.
Troll Fight!
I’m still confused….the left thinks palin is a horrible choice, is unqualified and more of the same (I almost couldn’t write that without punching a hole in the wall)….who would you approve of??? And if she’s soo bad wouldn’t you be happy???
Just to let you know this isn’t the senate and you slimy jellyfish can’t block votes or go on vacation…you have no say…
Only the libs can make an argument for selecting the most qualified person for the job with a straight face.
In a election year where a sock puppet with a (D) on it could get 50% of the vote you’re struggling to get 48%.
Too bad you guys don’t have a sense of humor because this is a riot.
But my money’s on the house favorite, chapoutier!
chapoutier #151
You’re a liar and a troll. The only reason we are going through this again is precisely because you are a liar and a troll. That’s why YOU brought it up again.
I ddin’t claim anything, and I’m not the one that looked like a total fool for denying what I actually posted.
I note that I responded to a post you made, not a post that I claimed that you made. I will also note that atheling didn’t have any trouble finding it – you see, she has this “scroll” feature on her computer. I would guess that you do too.
Sounds like he pledges his allegience to Muslim nations to me. I mean CAIR is funded from overseas by Muslim nations and Obama says he’ll stand with “them.” Let me ask you this, have you ever seen or listened to the undercover recordings in some of these Mosques in the UK and the US? Nothing but hatred and preaching for the demise of Christians and Jews in some of them. Obama is going to stand by that if there’s a Muslim purge of these mosques? That doesn’t make sense to me.
We all deserve equal protection under the law and something like that doesn’t make me feel it is afforded to everyone equally.
chapoutier said:
I’ll go slowly because you seem a little slow…
pledges: recites “Allahu Akbar”
allegiance to Muslim nations: talks about “57 states” (of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference) instead of “50 states” (of the United States of America).
He also intentionally misquoted the Constitution of the United States of America, leaving out any mention of our country.
If there is criminal activity going on in a Mosque, cool. Go right after the perps.
But you are talking about a “purge”? Do you know what that sounds like?
This is really to stupid to even bother with. But I will any way. First off, he doesn’t “talk” about 57 states. He once misspoke and said he’s campaigned in 57 state (presumably he meant 47, which I think was the correct number at the time).
I mean I think it is rather silly when people try to use this as some sort of evidence that he doesn’t know basic geography or history. But you, brother, take the unhinged tin foil cake.
chapoutier said:
ITookTheRedPill said:
So, chapoutier, are you man enough to take the challenge?
If these TRUTH statements are smears, why don’t you fight the smears with evidence?
What’s that? You can’t?
I knew you couldn’t.
This isn’t a joke. This isn’t a political game. Almost 4,000 people lost their lives in those terrorist attacks, and one of them was a friend of mine.
Nothing like a wannebe hocky player with a mammy fetish. Why don’t you go read some posts by some of the more mature conservatives on this blog, and learn a thing about peeing in the pool.
That’s rich. You might wanna work on your “material”. I’m so impressed that you have somehow figured out how to use the blog’s link function. You’re a real winner blue. Verrrrry special.
Chap:
Redpill is beyond the pale. I don’t think you know how to talk crazytalk.
Uh, no. Michelle, I’m your bud, but that is juvenile and is only going to harass and antagonize the people working in the supermarket who have to stock the shelves and generally maintain the place and clean it up. Bad idea.
Hey woman. I swear I’ll ship you a box of your favorite wine if you find a quote of mine where I talk about how only liberals will benefit minorities. While you’re at it find one quote where I’ve said Obama is a new kind of politician. Any fool can see that I’ve stated the exact opposite on this very page.
You are not very smart or honest.
mistressjustice,
The challenge applies to you, too. I challenge you to disprove even a single one of the TRUTH statements here.
This is not a game. This is a matter of life and death. My friend died at the hands of terrorists on 9/11/2001, and finding the truth matters to me.
I respectfully ask anyone with connections to Federal Law Enforcement to please investigate these truths and the connections implied by them.
Please.
I miss my friend, and so does her husband.
Please don’t let their deaths be in vain.
Okay this is getting scary. Good luck finding the “truth” redpill. I honestly mean that. Sorry to hear about your friend. Now, I won’t be responding to any more of your posts.
good luck
Reading and hearing the liberal’s comments about Palin produced a level of anger in me I have never experienced: pure hate. I prayed that God would curse this bucket of shat and bring him nothing but bitterness and an early death. I have never said such a thing in my life and while I am ashamed of it, I cannot honestly ask to be ignored. I hate this man and his party and believe they will not rest until they ruin our country and destroy all liberty.I believe they are a risk to the health and safety of my family and yours. I believe they would force abortions on women, euthanize children with Down’s, and that they have no knowledge of grace or goodness but only worship what is evil. I believe that a war with them is coming and we will either prevail or be murdered by these people. Their every thought and word is filled with hatred and apocalyptic visions, and they despise the notion of a loving God. I urge every decent American to arm themselves, train to use their weapons well, and pray that God will intervene to spare us all. For those who consider this paranoid consider that the treatment by the liberals of Palin’s daughter might have caused some girls to commit suicide – an outcome they would have most certainly found desirable, and they refer to our children as, “fair game,” no longer as human beings.
I am prepared to fight and for the first time the phrase, “Give me liberty or give me death!” has real meaning for me. I choose liberty!
Politicalguano,
Some on the left will say that you are overreacting, but they ignore that Oprah is promoting an author who is telling people “We are running out of time” i.e. “the end of the world is coming…”
With Oprah promoting Barack Obama and New Age Spiritual “Awakening”, thousands of Americans are falling for false Gods. Oprah is actively promoting author Eckhart Tolle, and here is his own two-page summary about “Spiritual Awakening”. I don’t provide that link to promote his thought process, but rather to bring attention to how he starts with a Bible verse but then immediately starts to deceive people into New Age Spirituality. It’s classic Bait-and-Switch. While Tolle began with a Bible verse, he ends with this:
We are running out of the amount of time before Jesus Christ returns. People are spiritually hungry, and that’s why it is so important to feed them the truth, not lies. There has never been a more important time to speak Biblical truth and to speak it boldly.
chapoutier and mistressjustice can’t handle the TRUTH, just like the liberal media can’t handle the TRUTH.
mistressjustice said:
Don’t take it so hard Red. MJ ignores me too but it’s because she can’t resist my vanilla ice sexiness.
Politicalguano,
Easy on the hate, though.
Chap I’ll think about this in context. I realize this isn’t 1492 and Spain just kicked the Moors out on their arse.
Goldwater Knight,
Thanks.
Ice…Ice…Baby!
My last comment appears to have been “eaten” (or maybe moderated???)
I’ll try it again, and apologies in advance if it ends up being a duplicate..
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Back to a more somber note…
In memory of my friend.
Back to a more somber note…
In memory of my friend:
http://hodge-podge.info/memquilt1.htm
Well, the liberal contributors here are out in force.
I wonder why people with such opposing views post here if all they seem to do is to rehash the same tired old lines.
I have seen one rationale mentioned that they came here to learn about conservative views, and in the same breath snarked about those very viewsd. When one wants to learn something, it is typical to listen more than speak. When all one wants to do it to stir the pot, so to speak, they post without any relevance to the topic at hand.
Just curious – is the goal here to incite negative comments you can run to some liberal board with as an example of the “other side’s” views? Is there some pathetic satisfaction gleaned in riling up someone you obviously don’t like? If it is not, I really don’t get it – why come hee to argue? The arguments posed are weak as discourse goes, and people are tired of hearing the same old broken record. We have heard it before – many, many times. And it is unconvincing now as the first time we heard it.
People are certianly entitled to their own views and the differences in our respective lives contribute greatly to the opinions we form. But most of the folks here are of the view that government should be small, personal responsibility reigns supreme, equal means equal, that life is indeed a precious gift to be respected and honored, that we mean what we say and say what we mean, that our Constitution means what it says and does not breathe, that our Country is something worth fighting for, and other beliefs that are seemingly unacceptable to the left.
Those are beliefs deeply rooted into our value systems, our principles by which we live our lives. And we think it is those principles and values that are time honored and have made this a great nation. We are not ashamed of who we are, but we will readily admit our imperfections as mere mortals.
So what is the motive for coming here? I would really like to know, in all sincerity.
In Memory of My Friend
They are in panic mode.
ITookTheRedPill, I appreciate your passion for opposing an Obama presidency, but you’re a bit off the original topic of this thread. Continuously calling people out to debate your topic (and not the hostess’s posted topic) could fall under the definition of trolling as well.
The topic is fight the smears.
If what I have said is smears and not the TRUTH, then fight the smears.
They don’t fight it because it’s not smears.
It is the TRUTH.
And those who can’t handle the truth
try to silence those who speak it.
The same could be said about some of the conservative talking points. By your quotes, I see and understand that you don’t agree with liberal ideology, or the traditional democratic platform.
That’s okay. I would hope that you could at least respect that a different philosophy doesn’t make someone less patriotic or sincere. I would hope you’d respect that we have the utmost hopes and dreams for ourselves and our children. We just want this country on the right track. I certainly don’t think the Bush years left this country in better shape than the Clinton years.
I have very close conservative, pro-life friends. We can disagree on a lot of things, but still find core values and general interests. My private relationships don’t reflect the outright animosity I see(and participate in) on this blog sometimes.
I clearly don’t hate republicans or conservatives. Some of your are twisted and full of devisive hatred, but most of you are good people and honest.
Why do I come here? I enjoy political debate on occasion. There are countless people here that I can engage in strong debate with occasional harmless teasing. There are a some,(many that I ignore) who simply want to engage in insult contests and general disrespect. If the mood suits me, I’ll get nasty in the cesspool too. However, that’s not why I’m here, and any honest evaluation of my posts will show that I usually get nasty when it’s brought to me first. I give respect when I get it in return.
I have had my mind enlighted on some issues by conservatives, and I enjoy debating politics and pop culture.
I can respect the fact that some conservatives wish that this blog only consisted of like-minded people. If you view any dissent as stirring the pot, you’d probably find more peace with a click of the mouse to the screennames you value, respect and recognize.
Sorry about the long answer, and I’m not sure if you were aiming at me. You call liberalism a “mental illness”. If that’s your view, you’re labeling a rather large tent. I’m sure you have friends, neighbors, and relatives whom you respect, who don’t share your politics. I personally don’t think all conservatives are “ill”, but I have a wide range for associations and interests. My views are actually more moderate overall, but I know that makes me a liberal on this board. Good day.
It’s almost time for football, Bill O, and McCain.
…And this isn’t just about “opposing an Obama presidency”
This is about finding the truth about who killed my friend.
This is about fulfilling the oath that all Senators and Representatives swear:
Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:
Slight correction to something I said before:
The full title of this post is:
Hey, Obama: Fight the Smears