Explaining the “community organizer” joke to the outraged Left

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 5, 2008 09:23 AM

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One of the best moments of Wednesday’s GOP convention — and there were many — was Rudy Giuliani’s jab at Barack Obama’s days as a “community organizer.” The follow-up from Gov. Sarah Palin was icing on the cake.

On cue, Team Obama and its satellites in the blogosphere reacted with ginned-up outrage. The Obama camp sent not one, but two, missives to its worshipers claiming grave offense and asking for donations to help fight the meanie Republicans. Kos posted an e-mailing likening Obama to the community organizer Jesus and Palin to Pontius Pilate. And the Atlantic suggested it was…RACIST!

My second syndicated column of the week patiently explains the joke the Left doesn’t seem to get. Adding to the punchline: After I filed my column yesterday afternoon, ACORN issued a press release condemning the “condescending attacks” on all the good-hearted community organizers like them.

Laughing out loud.

(**Check this out: Obama’s leftist claptrap on community organizing.**)

More fun: Here and here.

Plus: Hey, guess who else was a “community organizer?” And guess who wasn’t so fond of community organizing after all?

One more great satire you must read: Iowahawk.

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Why Obama’s “community organizer” days are a joke
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2008

Rudy Giuliani had me in stitches during his red-meat keynote address at the GOP convention. I laughed out loud when Giuliani laughed out loud while noting Barack Obama’s deep experience as a “community organizer.” I laughed again when VP nominee and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin cracked: “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a “community organizer,” except that you have actual responsibilities.”

Team Obama was not amused. (Neither were the snarky left-wingers on cable TV who are now allergic to sarcasm.) They don’t get why we snicker when Obama dons his Community Organizer cape. Apparently, the jibes rendered Obama’s advisers sleepless. In a crack-of-dawn e-mail to Obama’s followers hours after Giuliani and Palin spoke, campaign manager David Plouffe attempted to gin up faux outrage (and, more importantly, donations) by claiming grave offense on the part of community organizers everywhere. Fumed Plouffe:

“Both Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin specifically mocked Barack’s experience as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed. Let’s clarify something for them right now. Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.”

Let me clarify something. Nobody is mocking community organizers in church basements and community centers across the country working to improve their neighbors’ lives. What deserves ridicule is the notion that Barack Obama’s brief stint as a South Side rabble-rouser for tax-subsidized, partisan non-profits qualifies as executive experience you can believe in.

What deserves derision is “community organizing” that relies of a community of homeless people and ex-cons to organize for the purpose of registering dead people and shaking down corporations and using the race card as a bludgeon.

As I’ve reported previously, Obama’s community organizing days revolved around training grievance-mongers from the far left group ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). The ACORN mob is infamous for its bully tactics (which they dub “direct actions”); Obama supporters have recounted his role in organizing an ambush of a government planning meeting on a landfill project opposed by Chicago minority lobbies.

With benefactors like Obama in office, ACORN has milked nearly four decades of government subsidies to prop up chapters that promote the welfare state, undermine the free market, and perpetuate illegal immigration and voter fraud. Since I last detailed ACORN’s illicit activities in this column in June (see “The ACORN Obama knows,” June 19, 2008), the group continues to garner scrutiny of law enforcement:

Last week, Milwaukee’s top election official announced plans to seek criminal investigations of 37 ACORN employees accused of offering gifts to sign up voters (including pre-paid gas cards and restaurant cards) or falsifying driver’s license numbers, Social Security numbers or other information on voter registration cards.

Last month, a New Mexico TV station reported on child rapists, drug offenders, and forgery convicts on ACORN’s payroll. In July, Pennsylvania investigators asked the public for help in locating a fugitive named Luis R. Torres-Serrano, who is accused “of submitting more than 100 fraudulent voter registration forms he collected on behalf of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now to county election officials.” Also in July, a massive, nearly-$1 million embezzlement scheme by top ACORN officials was exposed.

ACORN’s political arm endorsed Obama in February and has ramped up efforts to sign up voters across the country. In the meantime, completely ignored by the mainstream commentariat and clean-election crusaders, the Obama campaign admitted failing to report $800,000 in campaign payments to ACORN. They were disguised as payments to a front group called “Citizen Services, Inc.” for “advance work.”

Jim Terry, an official from the Consumer Rights League, a watchdog group that monitors ACORN, noted: “ACORN has a long and sordid history of employing convoluted Enron-style accounting to illegally use taxpayer funds for their own political gain. Now it looks like ACORN is using the same type of convoluted accounting scheme for Obama’s political gain.” With a wave of his magic wand, Obama changed his FEC forms to change the “advance work” to “get-out-the-vote” work.

Now, don’t you dare challenge his commitment to following tax and election laws. And don’t you even think of entertaining the possibility that The One exploited a non-profit supposedly focused on helping low-income people for political gain.

He was just “organizing” his “community.” Guffaw.

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  1. #1
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:28 am, b-cat said:

    Nobody is mocking community organizers in church basements and community centers across the country working to improve their neighbors’ lives.

    Political activism is “church work” to many on the left. It is a religious activity, just as Ann Coulter suggested.

  2. #2
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:31 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Ya been hoodwinked and bamboozled by Obama.

  3. #3
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:32 am, guitarplayer said:

    Kos posted an e-mailing likening Obama to the community organizer Jesus

    These guys really do believe Obama is the messiah. How creepy is that? It’s like we’re dealing with a cult instead of a political party.

  4. #4
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:33 am, TxSkirt said:

    Obama has a twitter account. Pretty dry stuff, but the people following him have truly drank the Kool-aid. I saw where they were burning up the lines snickering about the “Jesus was a community organizer” quote. Comparing Obama to Jesus…I kid you not. Blasphemy.

  5. #5
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:34 am, Omu said:

    This is ridiculous. Why are conservatives ignoring Obama’s experience lecturing constitutional law? Why are you ignoring his time in the Illinois senate and his election to Washington? Why do you forget that Obama has sponsored 820 laws in Illinois and authorship of 152 bills and co-sponsorship of 427 in Washington. (btw, Sarah Palin lied when she said Obama has written two memoir and not one piece of legislation). Why are you trying to insist that he’s jumping from 3 years as a community organiser when he had finished college to the presidency?

    Grow up.

  6. #6
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:35 am, b-cat said:

    Last month, a New Mexico TV station reported on child rapists, drug offenders, and forgery convicts on ACORN’s payroll.

    Those racist New Mexicans! The only way to save the country from them is to send money to Obama. Only he can save the country’s soul.
    /sarc

  7. #7
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:36 am, magicarb said:

    “Let’s clarify something for them right now. Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.”

    No, ordinary people respond by voting the scoundrels out of office.

  8. #8
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:37 am, Regulus said:

    Excellent column, Michelle. “Community Organizer” is one of those catch-phrases perhaps better left hazily understood — because once you finally begin to realize what it really involves, it’s not something Hopenchange should really be bragging about.

    But what else has he got? Being “present” in the Illinois state legislature? Oooh! Claiming that running a campaign to become an executive is “executive expeerience?”

    Hopenchange is fast becoming “The Incredible Shrinking Man.” The fact that he’s presently bogged down trying to prove that he’s better qualified than McCain’s back-up proves it. It’s like a sports team trying to puff itself up by saying, “Oh yeah? Well my starters are at least as good as your bench!” Hardly inspiring to the fans, and risible to the other team.

  9. #9
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:37 am, Socky said:

    One of the sites defending community organizer work described it this way:

    He or she listens to people’s problems and may help them find the welfare office, Social Security office or unemployment office, and fill out the forms.

    So, Obama’s idea of improving people’s lives is getting them on welfare? That’s exactly the opposite of what I want a president to do.

  10. #10
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:37 am, Dr.Cwac.Cwac said:

    If Obama is Jesus and Palin is Pontius Pilate……..

    Will the crucifixion occur on November 4th?

    P.S. In this scenario, who plays the role of Barrabas? Joe Biden? Kwame Kilpatrick?

  11. #11
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:38 am, Socky said:

    “Oh yeah? Well my starters are at least as good as your bench!”

    Good one.

  12. #12
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:38 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Omu said:

    This is ridiculous. Why are conservatives ignoring Obama’s experience lecturing constitutional law?

    Was he a full time professor or was he was a senior lecturer? Answer truthfully.

  13. #13
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am, madchef said:

    Well Obama can turn water into Kool-Aid.

  14. #14
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am, guitarplayer said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:37 am, Socky said:

    One of the sites defending community organizer work described it this way:

    He or she listens to people’s problems and may help them find the welfare office, Social Security office or unemployment office, and fill out the forms.

    So, basicially he’s doing the job of the phone book?

  15. #15
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am, guitarplayer said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am, madchef said:

    Well Obama can turn water into Kool-Aid.

    Me too. Can I run for president now? ;-)

  16. #16
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:42 am, b-cat said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:37 am, Socky said:
    So, Obama’s idea of improving people’s lives is getting them on welfare? That’s exactly the opposite of what I want a president to do.

    He is a liberal Democrat after all. You are not.

  17. #17
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:43 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Why do you forget that Obama has sponsored 820 laws in Illinois

    That’s just like me signing a greeting card when it’s getting passed around the office.

  18. #18
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:43 am, magicarb said:

    Why are you ignoring his time in the Illinois senate

    He was indeed there. He certainly voted “present” enough.

  19. #19
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:43 am, sonofdy said:

    OMU: your own link shows him to be a below average senator. She the chart on the top of the page.

  20. #20
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:45 am, sonofdy said:

    OMU: did you know that obama did not vote on over 40% of the bills in the senate while he was there?

  21. #21
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, madchef said:

    Today the Obamessiah will heal Jesse Jackson’s tummy ache.

  22. #22
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, b-cat said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:43 am, magicarb said:

    Why are you ignoring his time in the Illinois senate

    He was indeed there. He certainly voted “present” enough.

    Now let’s be fair. He did at least take a strong position in favor of infanticide.

  23. #23
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, BemusedLib said:

    I know it pains conservatives to think that someone could actually spend a couple of years trying to help, impoverished, unorganized people improve their lives, vote or get a job. They prefer people who get into politics by ditching their first wife and marrying someone with the money and connections needed to carpet-bag into a new state and get their ego elected.

    The point of Obama’s experience as an organizer is not that it substitutes for the so-called executive experience claimed by the bottom of the Republican ticket, it’s that it demonstrates a commitment to change and a concern for others not always seen in the actions of the two relentlessly careerist politicians on the other ticket.

    Giuliana and Palin’s sneering at Obama merely demonstrate how out of touch they are with people unlike themselves.

    And, I’ll bet organizing in Chicago is a hell of a lot more challenging than being mayor of a small town.

  24. #24
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:49 am, FruNobulux said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:34 am, Omu said:

    Why are you trying to insist that he’s jumping from 3 years as a community organiser when he had finished college to the presidency?

    I don’t know that anybody’s trying to “insist” that any more than The One was trying to insist that Palin went right from being the mayor of Wasilla (a name Obama can’t even pronounce) to being candidate for VP.

  25. #25
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:50 am, Omu said:

    Nicely put, BemusedLib.

  26. #26
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:52 am, wighttrasch said:

    Ya been hoodwinked

    Hey, GoldwaterKnight; is that a reference to the klan?! RACIST!

  27. #27
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:53 am, sonofdy said:

    How very noble Omu and Bemusedlib. Im sure that will help alot when dealing with genocidual dictators :roll:

  28. #28
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:53 am, Omu said:

    I don’t know that anybody’s trying to “insist” that any more than The One was trying to insist that Palin went right from being the mayor of Wasilla (a name Obama can’t even pronounce) to being candidate for VP.

    Show me exactly where he said that?

    If you don’t reply (which you won’t) we can take it that you are lying (a lying conservative?! Never!).

  29. #29
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:54 am, Socky said:

    And, I’ll bet organizing in Chicago is a hell of a lot more challenging than being mayor of a small town.

    Urban elitism rears its ugly head again. I don’t see what is so tough about pointing leeches to the benefits office. As guitar player points out, that’s what phone books are for.

    It may also explain Obama’s contempt for the investor class that provides the jobs in this country, if Obama’s constituency is people who are dependent on government welfare benefits and the community organizers who sign them up.

  30. #30
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:54 am, Omu said:

    How very noble Omu and Bemusedlib. Im sure that will help alot when dealing with genocidual dictators

    And how well has George W. Bush been dealing with genocidal dictators these days?

  31. #31
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:55 am, guitarplayer said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, BemusedLib said:

    The point of Obama’s experience as an organizer is not that it substitutes for the so-called executive experience claimed by the bottom of the Republican ticket,

    You don’t think being a governor of a state is executive experience? Then tell me, what experience did Bill Clinton have when he ran in 1992?

    it’s that it demonstrates a commitment to change and a concern for others not always seen in the actions of the two relentlessly careerist politicians on the other ticket.

    Well, I would have to say overthrowing a dictator and setting up a democracy is about as big as change can be.

  32. #32
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:55 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    it demonstrates a commitment to change and a concern for others not always seen in the actions of the two relentlessly careerist politicians on the other ticket.

    Nice, now take all your BS and explain to me how you separate that from the Chicago political machine that rivals Tammany Hall. Take your maudlin hype and bake it in a cake pal.

  33. #33
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:55 am, magicarb said:

    And, I’ll bet organizing in Chicago is a hell of a lot more challenging than being mayor of a small town.

    You mean like the Annenberg Challenge?

  34. #34
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:56 am, Regulus said:

    This is ridiculous. Why are conservatives ignoring Obama’s experience lecturing constitutional law? Why are you ignoring his time in the Illinois senate and his election to Washington?

    Are you for real? I had a ConLaw professor in law school, big deal. That didn’t qualify her for president of anything.

    And we’re not ignoring his “experience” being “present” in the Illinois legislature — indeed, more time should be spent highlighting his failure to challenge the corrupt Chicago machine politics that spawned him, or to undertake any kind of “change” in the Illinois legislature.

    It’s the media arm of the donkey party that’s been AWOL when it comes to reporting on Hopenchange’s record in both the state and federal legislatures. Why is that? They want him to win so badly, if his record is so great you’d think they’d be trumpeting it. But they’re not. Why?

    I don’t have time this morning to check the link you cite, but I’m already smelling BS. He was a US Senator for about 140 days before he began campaigning full-time for the presidency, yet he’s supposedly “authored or co-sponsored” 479 bills? Pretty busy guy! Again, with such an amazing record of “accomplishment” his media pals should’ve been all over it by now — but they haven’t. Their silence speaks volumes.

    When it comes to growing up, I think you need to heed your own advice.

  35. #35
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:56 am, guitarplayer said:

    And how well has George W. Bush been dealing with genocidal dictators these days?

    He’s already killed one. Obama would rather sit down and talk with them.

  36. #36
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:56 am, b-cat said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, BemusedLib said:
    I know it pains conservatives to think that someone could actually spend a couple of years trying to help, impoverished, unorganized people improve their lives, vote or get a job.

    We have no problem with people getting jobs or improving their lives. We don’t have a problem with people voting. I still don’t see anything that recomends Obama to the Presidency in your argument. I’ve done all those things you’ve mentioned by myself. Anytime the government gets involved in my life, it is as an antagonist, not a benefactor.
    If someone needs help voting, by the way, then they are probably not competent enough to make the kind of decision that a vote represents. Incompetence in government compounded by incompetence in the electorate. What a winning combination.

  37. #37
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:56 am, wighttrasch said:

    And how well has George W. Bush been dealing with genocidal dictators these days?

    I can probably find a link to the public hanging of Saddam Hussein for you…

  38. #38
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:56 am, sonofdy said:

    I can’t help you out with your problem with russia, georgia, but here is a flyer on how to get free cheese!!!

  39. #39
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:57 am, ajmontana said:

    Emu’s judgement is cloudy at best.
    Everyone know’s Obama is a Human kool aid dispenser and his time in the Senate is a joke.
    Keep on drinking Emu!

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′
    Image: present, present, present, present…does not a Senator make.

  40. #40
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:57 am, Socky said:

    Show me exactly where he said that?

    Here you got OMU. Will an apology be forthcoming?

  41. #41
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:58 am, Omu said:

    Socky wrote:

    Urban elitism rears its ugly head again. I don’t see what is so tough about pointing leeches to the benefits office. As guitar player points out, that’s what phone books are for.

    That’s not urban “elitism” (do cons even understand that word?), it’s just a reasonable guess. Inner city Chicago has more intensely difficult problems than a small (very small) town in Wasilla.

    It may also explain Obama’s contempt for the investor class that provides the jobs in this country, if Obama’s constituency is people who are dependent on government welfare benefits and the community organizers who sign them up.

    Like it or not, there are poor people in the US who actually didn’t choose to be poor.

  42. #42
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:59 am, madchef said:

    If Obama would have fought the corrupt politics of Chicago instead of embracing the likes of Tony Rezko he could boast. Instead he honed his skills of intimidation, driving other Dem challengers out of the race.

  43. #43
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:59 am, Socky said:

    You mean like the Annenberg Challenge?

    Yeah, Obama and Ayers passed out $100 million to community activist groups to improve Chicago Public Schools. Wow! Those schools must be awesome now!

  44. #44
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:00 am, sonofdy said:

    Like it or not, there are poor people in the US who actually didn’t choose to be poor.

    Yeah, its the white man who keeps them poor right? Its white males who make them sell drugs and skip scchool!!!

    :roll:

  45. #45
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:00 am, ajmontana said:

    If he’s such a great “organizer” why can’t he “organize” a simple task as helping his Brother?
    Pathetic.

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′

  46. #46
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:00 am, Just A Grunt said:

    Moqtada Al Sader was a community organizer.

  47. #47
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:01 am, FamilyMan said:

    Community organizations and self help groups are the purest form of direct democracy. Groups such a Alcoholic Anonymous is a good example.. AA is effective in reducing subsistence abuse through mutual self-help. It remains a workable methods because it refuses to take government money. Obama’s community groups receive money from many well intended private foundations, trusts and government. As soon as government money is aquired, the process becomes a political hammer that changes the original intent of the group.

  48. #48
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:02 am, Omu said:

    Here you got OMU. Will an apology be forthcoming?

    Never in that video did he suggest that Palin went from being the mayor of Wasilla to being the VP. Sorry, you’re twisting and warping the facts – a technique that is all too common with neocons.

    Besides, Palin wasn’t even governor of Alaska when McCain launched his campaign for the nomination. How funny is that?

  49. #49
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:02 am, Socky said:

    Like it or not, there are poor people in the US who actually didn’t choose to be poor.

    I feel too much compassion for the poor to make dependency on welfare their only option.

  50. #50
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:02 am, guitarplayer said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:00 am, Just A Grunt said:

    Moqtada Al Sader was a community organizer.

    Ouch! Good one. :-)

  51. #51
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am, Socky said:

    I knew OMU lacked intellectual honesty.

  52. #52
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am, K2 said:

    Here’s a bit of insight into Obama and his time in the IL State Legislature….

    http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/print

  53. #53
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am, tarpon said:

    Just words, just jive talking, hoodwinking and bamboozling, the tools of the community organizer.

  54. #54
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am, Member-VRWC said:

    Community organizing like that performed by Mother Teresa — admirable.

    Community organizing like that performed by BO — deserving of scorn and derision.

    Don’t get too pissed, BO. It got you a fancy house and an opportunity to make a speech in front of styrofoam Greek columns before they were returned to a Hollywood set.

    Bottom line — bona fide community organizers don’t get rich and don’t get a chance to run for POTUS.

  55. #55
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:04 am, Flyoverman said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, BemusedLib said:

    Tell you what. You look at the “on the ground” programs of ACRON and the Salvation Army and see who does what. THEN look at the percentage of dollars that ACTUALLY are applied to help people out of their circumstance. There are dozens of excelent private non-government funded organizations like the Salvation Army

    I have been around this organization for 15 years. I have seen for myself how effective they are. ACCORN is a joke at best and most likely a criminal organization.

    Why all of the focus on being a mayor? She is a governor. Why is it that no incumbent member of Congress has been elected President since 1960? They have all been governors, except I believe for Bush 41, whose resume was astonishing. I wonder why?

    It has to do with leadership over management. I know a little something about leadership and I am here to tell you I would not even make Barack Obama a fire team leader, much less the Commander in Chief.

  56. #56
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:04 am, sonofdy said:

    Besides, Palin wasn’t even governor of Alaska when McCain launched his campaign for the nomination. How funny is that?

    About as funny as Obama barely being a senator before he started his campaign.

  57. #57
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:04 am, Omu said:

    sonofdy wrote:

    Yeah, its the white man who keeps them poor right? Its white males who make them sell drugs and skip scchool!!!

    Where did I say that? There are poor white people, too, in case you missed that. In fact, there are many poor white people.

    Are you trying to say that all children are born in loving, wealthy families and just arbitrarily decide to start skipping school and selling drugs? Hah, you neocons are even more out of touch with reality that I had originally thought.

  58. #58
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:05 am, guitarplayer said:

    Like it or not, there are poor people in the US who actually didn’t choose to be poor.

    True enough. But there is something called work. From that you can get money. Once you get enough, you can improve your life. My parents came to the US with about $10 in their pocket. They didn’t even speak the language. They never went to the government for help. Now, they own their home, cars, and helped me get through college without loans. Don’t you dare tell me that these people can’t do the same.

  59. #59
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:06 am, Paul said:

    Both Obamachev and Biden have thin skins and react badly to ridicule.

    McCain/Palin should make that an off used weapon.

  60. #60
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:06 am, d1carter said:

    I love it when libs quote the BO campaign as if it was their own words. Maybe Michelle should start requiring block quotes on the commenters.

  61. #61
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Flyoverman said:

    …..not always seen in the actions of the two relentlessly careerist politicians on the other ticket.

    P.S. John McCain was in the military 26 years before he retired and ran for office. Sarah Palin did not enter politics until she was well beyond 30.

    Biden’s and Obama’s past? Who are the “career politicians” here?

  62. #62
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Socky said:

    The pipeline deal that Palin negotiated with Canada will create more jobs and help more families than all of the Obama’s community organizing.

    We have the potential to create tens of thousands of jobs by expanding domestic energy production —- which Obama opposes. Also, his confiscatory tax policies on the investor class will also prevent the creation of thousands of jobs.

  63. #63
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:07 am, ajmontana said:

    Amazing story with Cindy McCain, she brings a complete stranger here to escape hardship form Rwanda and Obama and M. Obama treat a “Brother” like the man in the “Iron Mask”. Speaks Volumes.

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′
    Image: Obama looking out for no-one but self.

  64. #64
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:08 am, Omu said:

    sonofdy wrote:

    About as funny as Obama barely being a senator before he started his campaign.

    Again with these campaigns of gross mis-information. Do you neoncons ever tire of it?

    Obama was elected to the US Senate in 2004 (with 70% of the vote, I might add).

    Also: had Palin gone up against one of the most powerful political machines in the country (the Clintons) and won? Did she get 18+ million votes in a primary season? I don’t think so.

  65. #65
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:08 am, Last Massachusetts Conservative said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, BemusedLib said:

    And, I’ll bet organizing in Chicago is a hell of a lot more challenging than being mayor of a small town.

    Even if community organizing is all you libs say it is, the foundation seems to be informing people about how to get services that they need or want. How easy can that be? No detractors, free support from taxpayer supported programs, etc.

    A mayor, regardless of the size of the town or city, has to manage multiple interests, stay within budgets, negotiate union contracts, work with city or town councils, etc. Unlike larger city mayors, small town mayors have limited staff and need to understand a wide variety of disciplines.

    Your comparison is not even close.

  66. #66
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:09 am, sonofdy said:

    Where did I say that? There are poor white people, too, in case you missed that. In fact, there are many poor white people.

    Are you trying to say that all children are born in loving, wealthy families and just arbitrarily decide to start skipping school and selling drugs? Hah, you neocons are even more out of touch with reality that I had originally thought.

    Oh please, we all know what you meant. I don’t fall for your type of PC crap. I know the type of community Obama was working in.

  67. #67
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:09 am, Just A Grunt said:

    Apparently Barack did a real good job of organizing the community. They are organized into rival gangs now with a murder rate exceeding Iraq now.
    I wonder if he will recommend a surge or a withdrawal from Chicago? Maybe they ought to impose some benchmarks on the government in Chicago.

  68. #68
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:10 am, right4life said:

    I know it pains conservatives to think that someone could actually spend a couple of years trying to help, impoverished, unorganized people improve their lives, vote or get a job.

    if you think thats what the messiah was doing, I’ve got a bridge to sell ya. what he was doing is making sure people stayed dependent upon the government so they’d be good democRAT voters.

    it’s that it demonstrates a commitment to change and a concern for others not always seen in the actions of the two relentlessly careerist politicians on the other ticket.

    a commitment to socialism, and his ‘concern’ for others actually does them more harm than good, by making them dependent upon the government. but thats what people like you want and need for power. and it really turns people like you and obama on to have power over people’s lives.

  69. #69
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:10 am, Socky said:

    Also: had Palin gone up against one of the most powerful political machines in the country (the Clintons) and won? Did she get 18+ million votes in a primary season? I don’t think so.

    Oh, spare me. Obama didn’t mind corrupt political machines when they were working for him in Chicago, disqualifying his rivals and digging up dirt on his opposition.

    It also didn’t hurt Obama to have the entire MSM in this country as his unpaid PR flacks.

  70. #70
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:10 am, wighttrasch said:

    you (neocons) are even more out of touch with reality that I had originally thought.

    Please, enlighten me on what ‘reality’ is? My spouse & I see the same faces every day ‘protesting’ on the streets, when we drive past on our way to work. They are ‘community organizers too, no? So, are they trying to organize my hard-earned money out of my pocket into someone else’s?

  71. #71
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:10 am, Omu said:

    guitarplayer wrote:

    True enough. But there is something called work. From that you can get money. Once you get enough, you can improve your life. My parents came to the US with about $10 in their pocket. They didn’t even speak the language. They never went to the government for help. Now, they own their home, cars, and helped me get through college without loans. Don’t you dare tell me that these people can’t do the same.

    What if there aren’t any jobs?

  72. #72
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:11 am, right4life said:

    Again with these campaigns of gross mis-information. Do you neoncons ever tire of it?

    you are desperate to inflate the accomplishments of your messiah…thought he would just wave his hands and heal the world? he’s an empty suit, and your empty rhetoric to support him shows you are too.

  73. #73
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:11 am, Just A Grunt said:

    Community organizers serve an important function and purpose, and in fact they often coordinate their activities with the mayors of cities. So I guess that would put them under mayor on the command structure.

  74. #74
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:11 am, 7thson said:

    Okay, maybe being a community organizer doesn’t qualify as executive experience. Let’s put it to a vote: Everyone “Present“, please raise your hands!

  75. #75
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:12 am, pueblo1032 said:

    And another layer of deceit is removed from the “EMPEROR’S NEW CLOTHES”… This is starting to expose more to the eye of the INFORMED VOTER… Hopefully, by election day the exposure will be complete, and the AMERICAN PEOPLE will vote with their minds…

  76. #76
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:12 am, Member-VRWC said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, BemusedLib said:

    And, I’ll bet organizing in Chicago is pays a hell of a lot more challenging than being mayor of a small town.

    Fixed it for ya, dipstick.

  77. #77
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:12 am, BemusedLib said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:00 am, sonofdy said:
    Like it or not, there are poor people in the US who actually didn’t choose to be poor.
    Yeah, its the white man who keeps them poor right? Its white males who make them sell drugs and skip scchool!!!

    This reminds me of the fact that Palin was such an effective mayor and small towns are so virtuous that Wasilla has become the “meth capital of Alaska,” http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/030805/sta_20050308002.shtml and Wasilla High School is a “drop-out factory.”

    Guess Mayor Palin was focusing all those executive skills on trying to ban library books, illegally annexing land for white elephant sports center, soliciitng earmarks and running up the debt to pay attention to lesser priorities.

  78. #78
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:12 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Like it or not, there are poor people in the US who actually didn’t choose to be poor.

    But for everyone who didn’t make that choice, there are another 5-10 who have chosen the path of victimization and entitlement. Many of these people are simply afraid of hard work; it’s a sad reality, but the truth.

    We conservatives are all for helping the poor, but not for enabling people who choose not to work, who choose not to contribute, and who choose not to take advantage of the opportunities afforded them in America.

    Liberals overlook these very real problems and instead continue to support programs that actually keep people poor and disadvantaged. Like tax increases and government regulation – which push jobs out of the country and hurt employment rates.

  79. #79
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:12 am, right4life said:

    What if there aren’t any jobs?

    go make your own job. oh but that would take initiative and personal responsibility…things a community organizer would never approve of.

  80. #80
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:13 am, Omu said:

    Socky wrote:

    It also didn’t hurt Obama to have the entire MSM in this country as his unpaid PR flacks.

    Oh this old chestnut. Are you just pretending that reality doesn’t exist? Are you just pretending that newscasters didn’t claim to be “McCain’s base”? Are you pretending that the media hasn’t given McCain a free ride and let him off on all the outrageous gaffes he made during his campaign?

    The media may like Obama, but they love McCain a lot also. Stop pretending like that isn’t true.

  81. #81
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:13 am, Laree said:

    I always thought that was a mistake to stress the community organizer aspect, that is not for his entire demographic. The ones targeted for that “narrative” were already going to vote for him. This is what the Obama campaign does it only panders to his base. (Progressive Bubble) it is a BIG echo chamber in there.

    I guess going on the Factor is Obama reaching outside that base? Here is the thing because the MSM keeps propping him up, it makes him look like he needs propping up, that is defensive not offensive. He isn’t the under dog so he misses the American demographic, that appeals and roots for the underdog. I keep hearing how wonderful his campaign has been run. Well maybe in the Primary but this isn’t the Primary. They keep trailing public opinion and they put him in the position of having to “Nuance” when he needs to make strong declarative statements. Which John McCain and Sarah Palin have no trouble making. The MSM attacking a mother and her kids, what a gift, every time they attack her she gets stronger and by extension the McCain campaign. Heart won’t let them use one of their piddly old songs that makes them look Petty…so the Democrats want to look humorless, defensive, petty and mean spirted to American Families…Okay it isn’t the way I would go but good luck with that.

  82. #82
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:13 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:54 am, Omu said:
    How very noble Omu and Bemusedlib. Im sure that will help alot when dealing with genocidual dictators
    And how well has George W. Bush been dealing with genocidal dictators these days?

    How about Saddam and his boys? Nuff said.

  83. #83
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:14 am, englishqueen01 said:

    This reminds me of the fact that Palin was such an effective mayor and small towns are so virtuous that Wasilla has become the “meth capital of Alaska,” http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/030805/sta_20050308002.shtml and Wasilla High School is a “drop-out factory.”

    So – Milwaukee has a high drop out rate, too. It’s run by liberals.

    Nice try, but no dice, bemused lib. She still has a higher approval rating than Congress.

  84. #84
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:14 am, right4life said:

    Guess Mayor Palin was focusing all those executive skills on trying to ban library books, illegally annexing land for white elephant sports center, soliciitng earmarks and running up the debt to pay attention to lesser priorities.

    you mean instead of trying to kill babies, like your messiah?

  85. #85
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:15 am, PKAmmoTroop said:

    More people were killed in Chicago than Iraq.

    It makes one wonder exactly what kind of organizing The Chosen One was doing…

  86. #86
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:15 am, RedDog said:

    This should be an obvious red flag for Federal investigators, not just the state. The fact of the matter is that the Left has largely assumed control (or exert powerful influence) of government and media. Over the last 60 years, Marxists have taken the State Department, the courts, and public education, virtually all government agencies. Once they consolidate all political power, they cannot be investigated nor run out of power. They have, in effect, checkmated the Constitution.

    It begins with the schools. Americans have to resolve to reverse this by reassuming control of our schools and ridding them of this poisonous anti-western anti-capital doctrine. Our kids have been brainwashed for 60 years and many are providing compliant service to the Left as they grow into adulthood. No more.

  87. #87
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:16 am, guitarplayer said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:10 am, Omu said:

    What if there aren’t any jobs?

    There are always jobs. Some of them don’t pay well to start and are messy. But there are jobs if they look.

  88. #88
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:16 am, Socky said:

    This reminds me of the fact that Palin was such an effective mayor and small towns are so virtuous that Wasilla has become the “meth capital of Alaska,”

    Because as everyone know, the big cities run by liberals for generations have no drug problems and wonderful schools.

    Just ask the mayor of Detroit, whom Obama said was doing “an outstanding joB.”

  89. #89
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:17 am, right4life said:

    oh yeah bemusedwacko, perhaps you should read before you make such idiotic statments, from your own link:

    In 2003, authorities uncovered nine meth labs in the area. Last year, the number increased to 42, said Kyle Young, an investigator with the troopers who works with the Mat-Su narcotics team.

    she hasn’t been mayor for 2 years…nice try, but no surprise you’d have to lie like a typical lib.

    do you libs EVER tell the truth?

  90. #90
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:17 am, conservativesRus said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:54 am, Omu said:
    And how well has George W. Bush been dealing with genocidal dictators these days?

    Boy you libs sure do have a short memory. Last I checked, Saddam is still dead. So – GWB: plus 1, genocidal dictator: minus 1.
    I think that’s a bit ahead of Obama’s score in that category.

  91. #91
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:17 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    I see our liberals here are hammering away at us with O-brahma’s experience whilst ignoring ACORN.

    Selective outrage.

  92. #92
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:17 am, Socky said:

    This reminds me of the fact that Palin was such an effective mayor and small towns are so virtuous that Wasilla has become the “meth capital of Alaska,”

    Because as everyone know, the big cities run by liberals for generations have no drug problems and wonderful schools.

    Just ask the mayor of Detroit, whom Obama said was doing “an outstanding job.” I think his visiting hours are Thursdays and Saturdays.

  93. #93
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:18 am, BemusedLib said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:08 am, Last Massachusetts Conservative said:
    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am, BemusedLib said:

    And, I’ll bet organizing in Chicago is a hell of a lot more challenging than being mayor of a small town.

    Even if community organizing is all you libs say it is, the foundation seems to be informing people about how to get services that they need or want. How easy can that be? No detractors, free support from taxpayer supported programs, etc.

    A mayor, regardless of the size of the town or city, has to manage multiple interests, stay within budgets, negotiate union contracts, work with city or town councils, etc. Unlike larger city mayors, small town mayors have limited staff and need to understand a wide variety of disciplines.

    Your comparison is not even close.

    But mayors have staffs and budgets and authority. And Obama’s stint, while I’m sure it included helping people get access to the government services for which they were eligible, also included organizing people to successfully take on city hall to get things like job trainining centers into the neighborhood and get asbestos out of their dwellings. It was an attempt to get people to take control of their own lives in challenging circumstances — in fact, to get them away from welfare (and keep in mind that many, if not most of the people he worked with had jobs. The were poor, but not lazy).

  94. #94
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:18 am, sonofdy said:

    What if there aren’t any jobs?

    You move to where there are jobs. DUH.

  95. #95
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:18 am, Socky said:

    do you libs EVER tell the truth?

    They do tell the truth when the truth is on their side… so, never.

  96. #96
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:19 am, FamilyMan said:

    Member-VRWC said:Bottom line — bona fide community organizers don’t get rich

    Exactly. If BO’s work with his foundation attempted to improve education through a failed system. Throwing money at the problem seldom works. Working with the Boy Scouts would be more effective.

  97. #97
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:20 am, Uplander said:

    If I ‘m not mistaken, Frank Nitti was a Chicago Community organizer.

  98. #98
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:20 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:34 am, Omu said: Why are conservatives ignoring Obama’s experience lecturing constitutional law? Why are you ignoring his time in the Illinois senate and his election to Washington? Why do you forget that Obama has sponsored 820 laws in Illinois and authorship of 152 bills and co-sponsorship of 427 in Washington. (btw, Sarah Palin lied when she said Obama has written two memoir and not one piece of legislation). Why are you trying to insist that he’s jumping from 3 years as a community organiser when he had finished college to the presidency?

    One question: Why is Obama ignoring this so-called experience? He later championed running his campaign as executive experience. He knows he’s light in the pants, so to speak Ask him why? Poof.Begone.

  99. #99
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:22 am, Omu said:

    Socky wrote:

    They do tell the truth when the truth is on their side… so, never.

    Between this comment and someone typing “democRAT”, I’m beginning to think every neocon has the brain of a 4-year-old child …

  100. #100
    On September 5th, 2008 at 10:23 am, Socky said:

    It’s telling that the same areas where liberals whine “there are no jobs for poor people” are being flooded with illegal immigrants who seem to have no trouble finding these non-existent jobs.

    Also, Obama is strongly in opposition to two policies that would create tens or hundreds of thousands of new jobs: 1. Expansion of domestic energy production. 2. Reductions in corporate and capital gains taxes.

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