The Obamas and their “Public Allies”
Investor’s Business Daily investigates Barack and Michelle Obama’s cozy relationship with the radical “Public Allies.”
The piece dovetails well with my “community organizer” column today and the recent piece I did on Obama’s government proposal for subsidizing “social entrepreneurship” and the Democrat Party’s hidden Soros slush fund — as well as all the terrific work Stanley Kurtz has done on Annenberg/Ayers.
The more you get to know about the far left-wing friends of Barack Obama, the tighter you need to hold onto your wallet.
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thetoysurgeon: You never attack an enemy when he is strongest. This is the mistake the insurgency made in Iraq.
I am 52 years old I am a life long Republican.
Good. I share your concern, but please try to think of the smart way to do things. There are ways to do everything.
Keep talking. You are a bastion of wisdom and intelligence.
I’m going to open a very expensive bottle of wine an laugh my a** off at the lot of you.
You guys are so funny. You think Barak Obama is going to lead a gang of well-scrubbed college kids (I see the Americorps kids around town every now and then) in seizing power and collectivizing the earth? You’re insane .
That article that started all this was insane. Finds the program nauseatingly PC? Fair game. Doesn’t think the feds should subsidize volunteerism? Fair game. Writes stuff like: “Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas. They plan to herd American youth into government-funded reeducation camps where they’ll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of “social change?” Clinically insane.
I mean, this organization has been around for 15 years — where’s the huge folder of dangerous radicals calling for the overthrow of capitalism? They don’t exist. They’re all running local nonprofits and, like you and me, trying to pay the mortgage or raise a couple of kids.
“When they’re not protesting, they’re staffing AIDS clinics, handing out condoms, bailing criminals out of jail and helping illegal aliens and the homeless obtain food stamps and other welfare.” Woooooo scary. Handing out condoms. If only….
Oh, since illegal aliens can’t get food stamps or other federal welfare, the author is apparently a liar as well as a hysteric.
It’s Friday. Go to happy hour. The Republic is not in jeopardy.
Oh, by the way, the “voluntary universal” thing means that he hoped everyone will take some time to do public service (and that he wants to provide incentives for them to do so), not that it’s compulsory.
Probably more than you want to know PB. You have already shown your cards.
Civil unrest or civil war against obama right away would be akin to protesting the germans marching into paris in world war 2. Quick violent and ultimately pointless…
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Then why the need to spend 500,000,000,000 dollars to create the same organization except as large as the us military? You really need to compare obamas plans to the histories of budding dictatorships world wide and in history.
Actually, it would be akin to treason.
Wal-Mart is having a sale on Winchester White Box ammo. It’s ball ammo, but it’s still ammo.
You might want to pick up some camo while you are there. Hurry, 04NOV is right around the corner.
Civil unrest would not be. Civil war would. Which is why I said I opposed it at that point. If the Obama plan continues along the lines of historical equivilents, then any method of removing Obama would be acceptable.
Besides, if I were formenting civil war, do you really think I would be stupid enough to do it here? DEE DEE DEE
I think the phrase “shun the money culture” outright hilarious, coming from the woman who has a six-figure income, who has given a pittance of that income to charity, and has a brother-in-law who lives on $12 a year in a hut in Africa. You see BemusedLib, the Obama’s talk the talk, but have no intention of walking the walk, unless it’s with yours and my money, and personally, I like to have some choice as to where my money goes.
If its not Hornady I am not interested. Good try you poppinjay.
If Osama Obama pulls this one off, better to fear for your freedom than your wallet.
Think: combination of Black Panthers, Code Pink and Sturmabteilung, bent on enforcing certain beliefs and thought processes while suppressing all others.
I’m betting he’ll put Michelle O in charge of it, too, and pay her a solid salary.
Speaking of Orwellian, the “civilian security force” sounds remarkably like the youth leagues from 1984. Obama wants to have our children indoctrinated against us, it appears. We already know the Obama campaign likes the idea of being the Thought Police!
Perhaps Bush is their Emmanuel Goldstein? (or is it now Sarah Palin?)
In other words you can’t have one without the other. Seriously who needs to go to a camp to be “educated” on how to be a good steward?
’sides Obama’s supposed to be his brother’s keeper and his brother lives in a hut and makes $12 per yr. What’s the old adage: charity starts at home? Yeah, the Obama’s are all talk.
They don’t have guns or receive military or paramilitary training. There are currently 1.5 million men and women on active duty and another 1.5 million in the reserves, plus innumerable local police and armed fanatics. I hardly think 300,000 community organizers — a tenth the size of the current military — would present a threat.
The $500 billion figure is complete fantasy. The “some estimate” phrase should have tipped you off that it was a lie, but googling around would have showed that the current line item for Americorps (not yet signed into law) is $888 billion. The Peace Corps ruins about $350 million. So, if you combined the two, tripled them (he wants to double the Peace Corps, roughly triple AmeriCorps), and added a few billion to get a round number, you could run both programs for 125 years for $500 billion.
You should get your BS detector fixed. Or at least turn it on.
I see the White House slipping through their fingers.
On September 5th, 2008 at 4:39 pm, Flyoverman said:
Thank you, Flyoverman.
With those in our military willing to die for our freedom, the least the rest of us can do is live for our freedom.
I’m disappointed you didn’t call him a racist for disagreeing with you.
You’re slipping.
Man, you just missed it. They had a big gathering in Denver last week. It was all over the TV and everything.
When I hear someone say “Civilian Security Force,” I keep seeing old movies of goose-stepping SA brownshirts…
BTW, I’ve been posting on HuffPo recently. I wonder how long before my account gets disabled?
ECS
http://theturkeyfootbrand.blogspot.com/
Why do we even need a civilian national security workforce? What’s the point?
Not yet. If they are unarmed, are they just going to be a cadre of informers? Yeah, there’s something to which to aspire: a paid government snitch. “Oo-oo-ooh! I know who has some guns!”
That is true. Women make up well over half the increase in Concealed Weapon Licenses in the last two years. For the first time we are seeing large numbers of women buying their own weapons and going to the range by themselves or with other women.
They have their own magazine and website.
There is more then one reason for the increase I assume. But I imagine that the idea that when seconds count the police are but minutes away might be one. Husband and wife teams make up a large part of the two Home Defense courses I teach. My sons and daughters were all taught the defensive use of the handgun and Remington Model 870 pump shotgun. I wasn’t always home.
Your side arm should be like your MasterCard: Don’t Leave Home Without It.
30 pcs, the trolls just ignore or sweep the brother story under the
rugbus like odopey does…::crickets::
It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!!
McCain/Palin 08′
Image: it’s over for Obama.
Can we assume piano lessons are out of the question?
Yes, it is over. They know it and it is sending them into convulsive fits.
It is glorious.
Don’t forget the .25/per he spends to feed them, “gourmet” bologna sandwiches on white bread. No cigarettes or porn allowed. He teaches them English by having them sing along with Kate Smith to “God Bless America” every morning. I love Sheriff Joe.
Back to Boot Camp for Radicals.
My daughter came home from her third day in middle school and relayed the fact that one of her teachers was touting “community service” for extra credit or make-up grades.
Said teacher went on to gush that Barack Obama wants kids to do community service and then he’ll pay for their college.” All the kids reportedly looked glassy-eyed and said, “Cool.”
I’ll be sending a copy of this IBD article to said teacher.
I have a feeling the teacher will look glassy-eyed and say’ “Cool”.
It is hard being a child with conservative beliefs, having to deal with this type of BS from teachers and idiotic peers.
God bless your daughter.
I guess we’ve learned that BO’s hut-living brother doesn’t help MO’s kids!
This was the funniest comeback in this entire thread.
BZ Ron!
Boy, I’m glad the lid is being blown off this “community organizer” thing! So it’s just more of Obama’s marxist teachings looming once again to the surface. Par for the course, eh?
Sounds to me like they are just creating a new generation of victims. Some have been wondering on other threads how these protesters can go from place to place and whether or not they have jobs. I think this thread may have answered part of the question.
They usualy don’t, at first.
Michelle…
I thank you and I thank all of these folks who are staying on top of this.
This political machine terrifies me beyond words, specifically because we’ve seen it come close to stealing elections in the past (ACORN always makes a good go of it) and because it seems pretty clear to me that this man is with us today only because he is a product of this machine and they will absolutely not hold anything back to win.
So thank you for your dedication to keeping the focus on this matter.
Very astute, navywife. This bears some thinking on and watching for. Excellent.
You seem to believe that most of us here are rubes but please do not be so elitist as to believe we don’t know how to do rithmetic. Just using your 300,000 “community organizers” and Obama’s stipend projections you actually get:
1. Salary- 300,000 @ $1800/mo is 6.48 billion /yr
2. Heath & Childcare- 300,000 @$1000/mo (purely an estimate) is 3.6 billion/yr
3. College Tuition- (assuming a 3 yr stint of service) 100,000@ $4725/yr is 472.5 million/yr
4. As you said, throw in a couple of billion for administration and overhead-2 billion.
So to get all those little ACORNS out there, you better have a $12.5 billion tree. You say he can run the whole thing plus an expanded Peace Corp for 4 Billion. You are off by at least a factor of four. Do democrats do their ciphering on a Freiden or what? Check yourself with that BS detector.
Hannibal: Not to mention Obama was talking about a force the same size as the us millitary. 3 million “community organizers”.
That is correct, sonofdy, he said: “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the military, he said.
A strong, powerful, national security force made up of civilians.
Hannibal, your math is good, please remember that the figures proposed are always much smaller than the reality.
We have this little bit of foreshadowing from the executive director, Michelle Obama:
Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/20/messiahs-wife-barack-will-never-allow-you-to-go-back-to-your-lives-as-usual-uninvolved-uninformed/
I am taking all of this seriously. Hope I’m wrong about all of this. But my hackles are up.
Obama has more problems than any presidential candidate I can remember. He makes Bill Clinton look clean!
Obama, The Sorcerer’s Apprentice
Did they not start the nazi movement through the childern. Using the childern as excuses for thier own power grab ?? Anyone see a pattern developing from the Democratic party ?
Ah yes, do as I say, not as I do. MO hasn’t been much of a role model with that job of hers and the huge raise coincident with BO’s senate career.
The circle is complete: we pay for you to get the liberal indoctrination in the social “sciences,” and you come back and be a foot soldier in the Obamanation.
Gee, do you think there is an incentive to actually fix something when your job is riding on the outcome? I’d sooner wait for Jackson/Sharpton to fix the race problem they are so busy creating.
Standard fare in colleges and university nowadays. Very little about patriotism, pride in country, and all the rest of the “fly over” values.
Utter pap, uttered by socialists, anarchists and others devoted to destroying the values that made this country great. Can you think of a really great socialist country? A great communist country. Me neither.
This smells very much like what the ChiComs do today, and the Soviets and Nazis did in the past: get to the children.
Hitler Jugend anyone?
Hey Bri. Add more fiber to your diet. You’ll see your “social movement.”
We people of pallor refer to that as the P-O-L-I-C-E. WTF are you talkin’ ’bout, Willis?
Wrong. Once they have their anchor baby they are eligible for WIC, and believe me they all know how to get it, not to mention various state and local health programs for the poor. Do you actually have any experience with illegal aliens or are you just repeating some Dem talking points?
The Peace Corps currently has a little less than 7000 members so this runs to about $50,000 a year per volunteer so that they can have a great two year adventure and be acclaimed as some type of volunteer hero without ever having done any serious work or or produced any results whatsoever. As a former volunteer I know this first hand. I worked about 10 hours a week and that was far more than most. Peace Corps was a joke among the locals as there are absolutely no demands for results made on volunteers, few of who have any useful skills. As an experienced engineer I was a rare exception but sociology majors being sent out to design and build water systems was far more typical. From what I have seen of AmeriCorps volunteers I have to believe it is about the same, or worse. In typical liberal fashion, Obama wants to increase funding instead demanding some acountablity for the amount we are already spending.
I always do. Everytime a liberal opens his mouth it goes off scale.
BemusedLib;
Don’t you see the danger of a very large group of civil helpers doing community work all being educated with the same mindset. Can we say Hitler Youth or Moa’s Red Guard or Cambodian Reeducation Workers. ETC ETC
The word is communist(s). Why are people so afraid to say it? The left loves to cry nazi (of course they don’t realize the national socialists are socialists). We are witnessing a communist movement. How can we hope to defeat it if we can’t even look it in the eye & call it by it’s name.
FamilyMan,
We’re all simply paranoid - he just can’t or refuses to see the writing on the wall.
I’ve been callin’ ‘em brooklyn. Also fascist and Marxist.
I refer the those brain dead followers as civil helpers because they’re not communist. At this time it is only the leaders we should use that term with.
b-cat, thank you, BUT marxist yes, facist not so much…
“Individual salvation depends on collective salvation.”
Uhh, that’s not what Jesus said.
The real Jesus, that is.
What about followers like Code Pink? Don’t they know what they are?
Family Man, only the leaders? like Obama? and his lovely wife… and she dose seem oddly absent. Perhaps she would like to debate the nominee for Vice President, perhaps on Oprah?
These are communists, but not proud enough to announce it.
b-cat, Don’t they know what they are?
Useful idiots. Marx was not one to mince words.
Went back and looked it up. Point taken, brooklyn red. They certainly do not like the nation, but I do like yanking their (collective) chain.
I certainly can’t argue with that.
I would love to see it. Never happen. They know they can’t expose themselves that much. Don’t forget we need to leave his wife alone/sarc. Obama said so.
I have no name for those crazies, and I really don’t think they know . They just like the attention.
She’s the smarter of the two.
b-cat, (and Christian Soldier if you are out there) This is for real. This is communism… you need to say the word. The reference to the “evil one” has no meaning, or power unless one says the name. Kinda like artillery, you gotta call in coordinates.
The word is communist.
That quote will be used in the campaign. It’s easy for people to see the connection. Can we say swift boat ads
Don’t confuse salvation with redemption.
I used actual budget figures — they’re supposedly supporting 75,000 organizers on about $900 million; Obama calls for upping that to 250,000. But I’ll take $13 billion — the figure in the article was $500, billion, so you’ve simply helped me prove my point that the number was grossly exaggerated.
Thanks.
His website says 250,000 Americorps and 16,000 Peace Corps.
On September 5th, 2008 at 10:18 pm, GaMidnightRider said:
Dear God, you can’t be serious.
Yes — there are some who believe that “soft power”, the projection of U.S. force and influence through non-military means is an important component of national security. The idea being that if well-funded and effective Peace Corps volunteers, for example, run effective programs in Bangladesh, your average Muslim Bangladeshi will say, “hmmmm, the United States, not such bad guys after all. Maybe they’re not the Great Satan.” Also, effective economic development tends to reduce the number of people whose lives are so grim that they’ll blow themselves up. It’s a complement to military power and traditional foreign aid meant to improve our national security (as well as accomplish humanitarian goals). ie, it’s more effective to keep people from joining terrorists in the first place than to try to kill them after they go to the bad side. “Powerful, strong and well-funded” are relative terms: the most powerful, strong and well-funded Peace Corps ever type of thing.
This is a reasonable argument. Saying that Obama going to spend a half-trillion dollars a year to create a private army of “sociology majors” who will defeat the American military and take over the government is insane.
On September 5th, 2008 at 10:48 pm, FamilyMan said:
No.
But he did say:
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. ‘For I was hungry, and you gave me {something} to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me {something} to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited me in; naked, and you clothed me; I was sick, and you visited me; I was in prison, and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you, or thirsty, and give you {something} to drink? ‘And when did we see you a stranger, and invite you in, or naked, and clothe you? ‘When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?’ “The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of mine, {even} the least {of them,} you did it to me.’”
On September 5th, 2008 at 7:45 pm, sandyb said:
Back to Boot Camp for Radicals.
Link you might want to read about Liberal Teachers
http://blog.spencerentp.com/
Is lgm posting as this Bemusedlib now ??
Nope. Just me.
Obama’s Slum Lord Friends (Chicago):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnESx4KDeQI
Yeah, you’re right…Obama’s people won’t be the ones to do that. We already have the proper infrastructure in place. It’s called…
College
Sorta like this example. It was later rescinded…it got too much heat, of course.
That’s much better…catch ‘em when they’re freshmen, vulnerable, and compliant.
Amending my last comment, #176…
I’ll quote again:
Again, from this link:
Students living in the university’s eight housing complexes are required to attend training sessions, floor meetings, and one-on-one meetings with their Resident Assistants (RAs). The RAs who facilitate these meetings have received their own intensive training from the university, including a “diversity facilitation training” session at which RAs were taught, among other things, that “[a] racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality.”
Now, what was that you were saying about re-educating our youth to think this is a racist country? Insane? Hardly.
That’s the University of Delaware, not AmeriCorps.
And I agree with you, it’s bogus, and I’m glad it got rescinded.
On the other hand, it would be negligent not to acknowledge that a middle class white kid going into community organizing in a poor neighborhood, especially a minority neighborhood, is going to stumble across a lot of cultural differences and to try to give them background and preparation.
Why they were doing that in a college dorm, I have no idea.
You obviously read my post but I don’t think it sunk in. I’m trying to make a different point than others here so I will spell it out:
1. The Peace Corps is already well funded. The problem is the vast vajority of the money goes into administration and overhead. Despite this large expenditure there are little or no quantifiable results.
2. There are no effective results because few volunteers have any relevant education or experience. To make the case worse the expectaions are very low. The average volunteere spends far more time drinking and dancing and going to parties than working. (This is known in Peace Corps brochures as learning about a foreign culture.)
3. Due to the problems noted above peace Corps volunteers do not always leave such a great impression of Americans as you seem to think they do. At best, they are generally remembered as a group of fun but generally useless youths. At worst a very negative stereotype of spoiled, party-animal Americans is left behind.
Most of the stories put out by Peace Corps are pure BS. Typical: A frequent cover story is that a volunteer taught English. Peace Corps has no program to teach English and even in third world countries teachers are required to have relevant training and do not appreciate foreign youths coming into their schools without any credentials. In most cases when somebody says they taught English it means they tutored a few students ocasionally in their home because they had nothing else to do.
Now getting to my main point. Obama wants to increase the size of this program without any real interest in what is really going on inside of it. If Obama was proposing revamping the Peace Corps so that volunteers were required to have relevant experience and placed in positions with adequate resources and technical support I could support him. Don’t you think it just might be a good idea to have some accountability for the money we are already spending, instead of pouring more money into it?
A few of years ago Dayton Daily News did a series on the points I made above. That link was just a small part of the series, but was very accurately reflects my experience. This is the same program Obama wants to double.
I confess that I have too little objective knowledge of Peace Corps results to agree with or dispute your findings, although I do have friends who are Peace Corps vets who would disagree with your assessment. Nonetheless, this is a perfectly reasonable and legitimate argument, the kind of debate we should be having (and an emphatic “yes” to your accountability point. Accountability is actually a huge trend in private foundation giving, it should certainly find its way into federal programs.)
What troubles me is the suggestion that Obama intends to turn the Peace Corps and AmeriCorps into a vast army of over-educated shock troops who will collectivize the universe and put unqualified affirmative action beneficiaries in charge of vital industries while destroying capitalism and appointing liberals to the Supreme Court. As you’ve noticed, I find that scenario unlikely, and its champions unhinged.
I am personally not very worried about that. That would require some real work, plus they would have to cut back on the partying.
Note: I’ll bet your friends have a lot of great adventure and party stories. Ask them for some detail about their projects, not just vague references to working on a water system or teaching about raising bees.
On September 5th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, PBoilermaker said:
It is Schadenfreudelicious!
And McCain’s execution could not have been better…he planned all along to announce his VP the day after the ObamaNation’s “mile-high” coronation.
How cool is it that Sarah-cuda turned Obama’s “mile high” into a
head-splitting hangover less than 24 hours later?
Schadenfreudelicious!
Barack Hussein Obama is highly esteemed by the media.
But God knows his heart…
What we see is the marching orders for establishing the Obama Youth Groups, the seeds for his Brown Shirts.
{^_^}
These people terrify me, and the MSM is covering for all of their dirty deeds.
IBD will print The Truth where others shy away from it.
Uhmmm… Just to be sure…
Are you implying that the church is not doing these things?
We are doing these things.
b-cat said in # 145:
“remember that the figures proposed are always much smaller than the reality”
As one who has been around government programs, it is usually best to double any alleged “cost” figure and multiply the result by pi. If you look back at many programs, this is a closer approximation of the true costs rather than what someone claims it will be.