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ECS
Thanks everyone for the tips! I’ll try and put this information to good use.
Gallup:
McCain 48, Obama 45.
This poll is only 2/3 after effect of McCain’s speech.
This means this poll isn’t the full effect of McCain’s speech. Wait for this weeks polls.
If over-penetration is a problem, try Glaser or MagSafe ammunition for home defense. You could also try a .223 Rem/5.56 NATO carbine with varmint rounds. More effective than a pistol with less over-penetration than a pistol or shotgun.
ECS
Oh baybee! ::swoon::
I’m moving to Colorado from Hillaryville next week so I can’t wait to breathe the fresh air of freedom and maybe even gun rights. (Can’t wait to go where my red vote may even be counted!!!)
I’m not a shortarm man, I do like plinking with a hip gun from time to time though. My last revolver was a Colt Walker .45 replica. Talk about fun! I really should have gotten the shoulder stock for that charcoal burner.
31 Bravo…the Weaver is natural for you and me. I tried to teach it to my wife…and other women…and hard experience got them into the triangle for expedience until they gained the experience. Folks like you and me…been shooting forever…competition for me… yeah I’ll teach some folks combat advance advance advance…fire fire…
but a woman who has only seen a pistol and is within her first coupla hundred rounds. I want her comfortable, able to get rounds center mass…and not be afraid of the weapon.
Yeah…40 S&W was the offshoot of that FBI shooting in Florida…essential a 10mm Kurtz round. Same relation between 9mm & .380 or .357/.38 Spec.
I’m not saying that it isn’t a good round. I’m an old school 1911 shooter for 30+ years. The Glocks just don’t feel right in my hand. I can shoot them just fine…but not like I can put rounds on the target with a 1911.
Just trying to finish up an exam and surfing the internet.
Newsflash: Barack Hussein Obama on ABC has just admitted he is a Muslim. Debbie Schlussel links to the proof here: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/09/freudian_video.html
It is hilarious. The guy actually IS a Muslim. He says so right here and is corrected by the MSM.
Okay folks, Nancy Pelosi has been called to have a “conversation” with the
Archbishop of San Francisco, after her statement about the Church itself not being
certain as to when life begins.
This is just one part of her statement and has not been taken out of context. Pelosi
has defended her position, quoted by the San Francisco chronicle as saying, “This isn’t really an abortion issue” but rather consideration of “a procedure that any parent
would want her daughter to have access to if she needed it.”
Apparently the Archbishop is channeling Queen Victoria at this point, as in, “We are
not amused.”
This is tantamount to being called into the principle’s office.
http://ncronline3.org/drupal/?q=node/1771
More shocking Palin photos via the media. Will the madness ever end?
I am shocked jammie! Those were cute, All American photos if ever there were any. Great job.
Well, yeah. He went to a Moslem school for 4 years.
How else do you explain how he sat in a Christian church for 20 years and didn’t hear a thing that Jeremiah Wright was saying?
And forget about that story about being a poor black child, he’s not black. According to Savage Politics
The truth will set us free… from Obama
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/07/video-no-obama-didnt-admit-to-being-a-muslim-on-abc/
Nothing speaks louder than when it is spoken in your own words.
Here is a great video of Barack in his own words. Enjoy.
and the problem with the pictures is? Great picture for PETA. PeopleEatingTastyAnimals
The Super Steelers are spanking Houston.
Gotta love bailouts. I wonder how our society would look if the government said, “make whatever decisions you want, but don’t expect your fellow taxpayers to pay for the consequences of them. If your business fails, it fails. If you can’t make payments on your house, don’t come to us. Unless you can vouch for the approval of all taxpayers, you’re not getting a dime of their money.” But no, instead we tell people, maybe not in words, but definitely through deeds and policy implications, that “hey, go ahead and get married so you’ll save money. Oh, you can’t pay your bills? Don’t worry, we’re a compassionate nation, we’ll help you out. It’s our government’s responsibility to care for our citizens. Oh, you’re a single mom with 4 kids? Don’t worry, we’ll help you out and if you have more kids, we’ll help them, too. Oh, your business is failing? Don’t worry, because it’s so big, we’ll help your failing business. These things just happen. You wish to have promiscuous sex? Have fun, here are the condoms, and we’ll pay your medical bills for the STDs and help with the future children as well. Oh, you take drugs? Well, here are some clean needles. It’s not your fault. We’ll pay for your medical costs, too. Same goes for smoking, rest assured.” Anyone else smell what I’m steppin’ in?
#180 mookie said:
mook, that clip was both disturbing and hilarious for so many reasons.
When my grandfather started out as a NYC beat cop in the 1920s, he used to have to cart people like that over to Bellevue Hospital for processing.
That first shot with her in those short-short coveralls and no shirt?!?
Oh Baby!!!
I can’t wait to forward these.
I can’t figure out if it’s a spoof of not. If you look at the woman to the right of the one who’s wailing, it almost looks like she’s laughing.
OK, I have no idea how that happened.
To 30 pcs of Silver–Congratulations on wanting to exercise your 2nd Amendment-confirmed rights! I prefer semi-autos, so I can’t make any specific suggestions on a weapon. However, try all you can at the ranges (most have rental weapons and helpful people–both staff and regulars). Second only to safe handling and careful shooting is having the right feel to your weapon–it may fit someone else well, but not you, and vice versa. Good luck!
P. S. Virginia has good gun laws, and you can stay on the East coast. (I like Arizona and Colorado too, but there is something about Virginia.)
are those great pictures of our next V.P. or what?
Iranian TV Echoes Democrat McCain-Palin Talking Points, with only slightly less blatant bias than MSNBC.
I’m waiting for a dirty bomb to go off… at least if Biden gets into the White House.
Biden wants you to be NUKED! No joke.
He’d rather a hidden suitcase nuke go off than torture the terrorist who admits to planting it!
He said so on MSNBC on September 26, 2007. Don’t let the media forget!
Read all about it:
http://bidennationalsecurity.blogspot.com/
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Well, my SuperBowl aspirations were short lived… lmao
30 pcs, do join the NRA and use their resources. I’ve been a Life Member for years. If this is your first handgun, use your brother-in-laws .38 revolver. Buy some good ear protection. Go to the range often, let us know how you are doing after a couple of hundred rounds. Shooting is almost like yoga, relax, control your breath grasshopper.
Kevin K,
Thanks. My husband is from VA. My in-laws currently reside there. We are only in NJ for work. We bought house but we don’t plan on being here past the five yr mark if that long.
after week 1, aJ? ROFLMAO it was non-conference play….Huffalo isnt that bad….LMAO
Go Raiders!
Bear1909 out.
Thanks zorro! I’m really excited about all of this. I have been looking into it for awhile but finally took the plunge. I’ll keep you guys abreast.
They look awful bear….
can we end Holmgren now, forget his last year show him the door this week.
I’m picking up my new conceal carry weapon tomorrow…S&W M&P .45 ACP.
Recoil? The only recoil I’m interested in is the recoil the dirtbag feels when a 165 grain Power-Ball hollow point round hits him in the chest at 1200 FPS!
I don’t think I’ll miss my BDA .380…even though it holds 3 more rounds.
Sitting here watching a movie with tears streaming down my face.
“We Were Soldiers”…about the 7th Air Cav at Ia Drang and one of the best combat soldiers our country has ever produced…LtGen Hal Moore.
The scene when they called “Broken Arrow”.
God Almighty this just rips me up…but I have to watch it.
aj,
Da Steelers could always use more fans? C’mon over to da gold and black side.
On September 7th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, America1st said: (#36)
Congratulations! I hope it leads to wonderful things for you.
30, don’t sniff the bullets, the gun powder is affecting your brain.
lol
oops… there shouldn’t be a ? mark.
On September 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, mikeg said: (#132)
Will do–as I’m sure others will since many of our fellow commentors think along prayerful lines.
that’s right. Using our youth infiltrators, the Boy Scouts, the Republican Party, after amny months of tireless planning and preparations jumped into action following the DNC.
Seeing how the DNC was planning on placing teir flags into garbage bags, cleverly concealing them near the refuse containers so as to try and keep their overly patriotic members from taking more than their share of flags home in which to decorate their houses and neighborhoods, The Boy Scouts snuck into their encampment and while the DNC staff was otherwise busying themselves with placing the Greek Comumns back into storage, they stole all the bags of flags.
Sensing the enormous victory at hand, and knowing full well the anger and disappointment that the Dems and Liberals were sure to feel now that they could no longer have those patriotic displays and decorations at their homes and neighborhoods, The Boy Scouts handed the falgs over to the McCain Campaign where John McCain himself came out and received the cleverly disguised bags of flags and, giving The Boy Scouts a Fascist Salute as befits such a Right-Wing hate group as the BSA, thanked them for what can only be described as a very dangerous mission to thwart the DNC’s ability to demonstrate to the world just what patriotic Americans they really are.
B. Hussein Obama himself was overheard to exclaim, “I was all prepared to stand at attention with my hand over my heart in order to teach my daughters the proper way to show respect to our country and the men and women who have served her, when I found out that there would be no flags in my house now, all because of some little Eichmans dressed up in their little hate-group uniforms.
“I am pretty sure that they infiltrated my home as well, for I cannot seem to locate any of the 1,000 American Flag lapel Pins that I keep in my bedroom. Rest assured, we will get to the bottom of this, and when we do, my lawyers will sue the crap out of these Little Eichmans. Next thing you know they will try to impede me from practicing my Muslim Faith…I mean my Isl…I mean my..well…you know..that religion with that wrongfully depicts that white guy as the Saviour of the World…you know what I am talking about.”
Senator mccain and his running mate Gov. Sarah Palin were, of course, “Unavailable” for comment.
30, get a good revolver for your first piece. Less to go wrong mechanically, very reliable and easy to clean. Practice as much as you can. Wear hearing protection. Relax and squeeze the trigger. Don’t anticipate the recoil. Most of all, have fun!!!
I’m trying to teenage daughter awareness of her world since she wants more freedom to explore. When I or her friends catch by surprise in the house or somewhere else and she screams out “OMG! You scared me!” I lecture her that should be impossible because NO ONE should ever be able to sneak up on her.
Welcome! A police officer in Denver pointed out to me a few years ago when I stopped one to ask for options with a certain situation- its still the wild west in Colorado.
I use the 1911 and the HK45. Its been a while, so I need to refresh myself, but I always trained upside-down, in various contorted positions and with both hands in case one was unavailable anymore. Most situations are not ‘standing facing forward saying “stop or I’ll shoot”‘ expecially once an operation goes side-ways.
A friend of mine shoots competition and blows everyone out of the water. (you guys know better then I) He says at 100 yds you should be able to put 5 bullets though the exact same hole. He also uses an antiquated rifle with iron sights instead of all the fancy accessories and high dollar toys that everyone else uses.
MikeG…prayers for your father, you and all of your family.
mikeg:
Heavenly Father, please be the comfort and stength to mikeg and his family during this present crisis. You are the Great Physician and know every inch of his father’s body. You know what is wrong and can restore him to good health. Send your Holy Spirit to be the comfort they need and let the peace that passes all understanding reign over them. Amen.
I am a family historian and genealogy hobbyist one of the areas I research is “Melungeon” these two ladys who started this blog for The Real Sarah Palin are also Melungeon researchers.
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/
Michelle mentioned in previous post about waking the sleeping giant. We were already awake and paying attention. This blog is to push back against the media’s attacks on Sarah Palin, especially attacking her through her children. You will notice Michelle Malkin is in their blog roll
My CCW is a Para Ordnance light double action only. I was brainwashed way back in Basic Training to never carry a 1911 .45 cocked and loaded so it is a LDA for me. Yes one of the more costly .45s around but I feel it is totaly safe to carry with a round in the chamber.
However the very long trigger pull can take some time to get used to.
Also with respect to over penetration of walls, I think you would find almost anything but perhaps a .22 Long Rifle round would go through the normal sheet- rock wall.
I bought a Taurus PT 24/7 in .40 S&W and love it. It holds 16 rounds and still doesn’t feel like I’m holding a 2X4. For a smaller grip the CCW version that my son carries is a good substitute.
Community Organizing..
calling all the parents of the kids soccer team I’m coaching.
BTW, hit your target first with a hollow point and the round more than likely will stay within the confines of the room. Not guaranteed though.
But the perp won’t leave under their own power.
Some of us are using airsoft guns for training. There are different styles which replicate Glocks, Smiths, Barettas, Colts, etc. If you get the gas operated ones they have a blowback action and function as the real thing. Caution, these are to be used exactally as a real one. They will send the plastic bb through cardboard. With an airsoft you may practice in your house so do not hgave to drive to the range.
JUST TREAT THE AIRSOFT AS YOU WOULD THE REAL THING!!
The historical Melungeon Society, has already had political runs in this political season. You wouldn’t think historians would be involved but the intrusive nature of groups like the AATA, have brought up the issue of foreign governments, involving themselves in our domestic politics. We responded to the MHA – Melungeon Heritage Association, joining the AATA what appears to be a Turkish lobby group. They claimed through their association with the MHA that the People and descendants of the People called Melungeon supported their lobbying of our Government in denying the Armenian Genocide. We organized and pushed back we made it clear they can’t speak for people who don’t even know of their existence the MHA is about 6 board members. We made it clear we wouldn’t be used in any political lobbying efforts. Few know of the Turkish foray into Appalachia to co- opt not only Melungeon heritage but also the Indigenous people, who were residing in the U.S. before it’s European colonization.
We have been pushing back. The Turkish Lobbyist, swelled the numbers of Melungeons to 2 million. Where they got that number, no one knows, and used their association to Melungeon Heritage Association, to lobby our Congress. My ancestors were not Turks, there is nothing wrong with being Turkish. I just don’t have Turkish ancestry. All this has been going on under the radar, you don’t hear about it in the news. No one I know, can find instances of Muslim religion being practiced in mass, in early Appalachia.
And now members from the group, are blogging for Sarah Palin. See My last comment.
If you use the search on you tube, and put in melungeon, you will be able to view some of the Turkish Propaganda.
http://historical-melungeons.blogspot.com/search?q=turks
Thats what I have been up to
I keep up Imus in the Morning news, and activity here. Check out the little dude player, Jamey Johnson song, from his, That Lonesome Song CD. In Color, I promise you will like it. He is going to be on Imus in the Morning this month.
http://www.myspace.com/getoffmyphone
Thanks b-cat!
Will do Mike. I pray for “Michelle and all of her readers” every night. Will say a few extra for you and your Father.
When I last went to look at a handgun the dealer strongly urged me to consider a shotgun instead. Since I was primarily interested in home defense he said the shotgun would be a much better choice.
His point was that it was harder to miss with a shotgun and the sound of the pump action loading a round might be enough to send an intruder running without ever having to fire a shot.
He then advised that if I were going to go with a handgun that I would want hollow point ammo and not frangible ammo.
Still, practice, practice, practice is the order of the day. I am no slouch with a rifle but I have never become proficient with a handgun. And they are very different animals.
However, what I really wanted was the Jugoslavian-made MG42 knockoff he had for sale. Nothing says loving like a belt-fed weapon. But, it seems like it would be hard to deploy inside my home.
Choices, choices, choices….
I have absolutely not one shred of an issue with shooting and taking the life of anyone who is illegally in my house, harming my family or anything of that nature. Not one. The only hesitation that I would make would be to make sure that I have him/her correctly in my sights.
My Ruger is named “Chlorine”. Why Chlorine you ask? Because it is for removing human algae from the gene pool.
Ok, I’m so jealous. a friend of mine was to get me a signed copy of teh Anubis Murders, but he forgot.
I’ll just have to live with my signed Dragonlance and Castlemourn books from Origins past.
If you like Gygaxian Drow, check Paizo’s Second Darkness Adventure Path. No it’s not about a band of adventurers trying to stop an Obama presidency
As for me, writing, watching football (go Browns) and relaxing. Laundry later.
Q. Bungles play Ravens, who does the Browns fan root for?
A. An Asteroid.
And there wa much rejopicing over at The Jedi Temple with this news.
Great for perimeter defence, too, for the next several blocks!
Nothing says leave my daughter alone like a quick burst from an upstairs window.
What am I doing today? Absolutely nothing! Just got back from spending a couple of days in Denver – most interesting part of the trip were the number of big huge SUV’s sporting Obama stickers.
Don’t they know MO told us Barack expects you to give those up? Or was that to just inflate the tires and change the plugs….makes my head hurt.
On the topic of weapons – it’s great advice to start out with a revolver, especially if you’re a small woman. Plus, it really makes you think about what you’re doing, each and every time, and the mechanics behind it. It had been years since I’d fired “anything” and found that even the little Kel-tec was more than my wrist could handle – but, the lightweight Taurus .38 was manageable. Try them all and do take a refresher or beginner course, whether or not you ever intend to apply for a CCW permit. Like golf, don’t have a close friend or husband try and teach you either. Before the session is over you might decide to end the misery….
24Klady,
Thanks! I think that’s very sound advice. My husband, God bless is patient enough to actually pull it off (he puts up with me) but I think I’ll leave it to the professionals.
Yeah, but I really like the changing of seasons. New Mexico would be OK…if I could live up where it snows. I have been kicking around with Idaho or Kentucky.
However, if the women in Alaska are anything like Gov. Palin, it might be worth braving the Land of the Midnight Sun in order to have someone like that to cook dinner for.
I was thinking of using Glaser ammunition in my Browning Hi-Power.
Today was spent getting ready for my first showing at the new studio. Cutting matte board is not fun, but I am 95% done. One more print and have to frame a few of the photos.
Nor do I! People MUST understand that nowadays, anyone who breaks in to another person’s domicile, day or night, that person is willing to take YOUR life, no if’s, and’s or but’s!!! You must be ruthless and remorseless when dealing with these pariahs, because they will be that to YOU!!!
RetFireman – the women in Texas, Wyoming and Montana are pretty awesome too. This ex-pat of Calif. wishes you the best in your search – but the weather is certainly better south of the Canadian border. Boise & Billings both have pretty mild winters, if you can consider sub-zero for several days better. North Texas has their ice storms and that’s really nasty as well.
b-cat said:
I was looking at a Saiga-12.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this weapon? RetFire, PK Troop, Wareagle…
Ok…after seeing those pictures I can honestly say that I have a full bore school-boy crush on Sarah Palin. Todd is one hell of a lucky guy.
Bear, it’s true that almost any round will do that but a bigger, slower round with a lot of cross sectional front area is less likely to do so, and it’s much less likely once it has made contact with soft tissue, bone and tendons. The higher velocity rounds are the ones most likely to over penetrate the target e.g. 9mm, .380 (which is just an underpowered 9mm) .22 short and LR.
As for a shot gun, I could not disagree more, FAR too many projectiles flying around at once to be safe, especially with others in the house or the next house or apartment over– for home protection a shotgun is no go in my book.
And as for the sound of you racking a round in being a deterrent, let me tell you about a rookie cop I once knew who thought that was a good idea in order to break up a fight in a Mexican bar in Boyle Heights– he didn’t realize that the loud music and screaming pretty much nullified that idea. And he was left with a loaded shotgun and 6 people still going at it that he had to break up and no place to put said shotgun without having to run all the way back out to his unit. Not that I was there or anything, I just heard about it, yeah, that’s it, heard it in briefing the next day, and the day after, and the next week, and at the Christmas party……….
And 24KLady this is for you starting about 1:30 in to the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P2kxPEQ11Q
http://www.americanarmed.blogspot.com
http://www.cafepress.com/4therepublic
Getting ready for another hurricane. LOL! What else can you do but laugh at this point?
To those of you in LA; we know what you have been through, and we will be around to help because that is what sister states and really the entire American thing is all about.
I just wanted to say that because many are touting that Gustav did not hurt New Orleans and they are not running very many stories about the rest of LA that was just hammered by Gustav and did received much flooding and wind damage. Much love to yal in Baton Rouge, Lake Charles, and Mandeville!
And to all those that helped us out, a big thanks for all your efforts, hard work and a hand out that was and is greatly appreciated. We can never thank you enough and could never repay the kindness and aid our state received after Katrina.
Now that’s funny 24K, I myself learned years ago, never TRY and teach your spouse, friend, lover how drive a vehicle or play golf…you’ll be sorry if you attempt it. The lessons maybe over long before you were planing.
Laree – I was floundering around on the net some time ago and ran onto several websites on the Melungeons – I was captivated for hours and returned the next day to do more reading. Fascinating group and good luck with your search for dead ancestors. Have you noticed that women earliar than the 1800′s had no surnames? Sorting them out is like putting together a 1000 piece puzzle.
Having twice had to defend myself and my family with nothing but my hands I think I have made the decision and overcome that hurdle. Frankly, I am getting too old to fight off these thugs with my hands.
I don’t think the statistics back up your claim on being shot with your own weapon.
But, your last point is “dead on,” if you’ll excuse the intended pun. My rifle instructor said the same thing. Never aim a weapon at anyone or anything unless you intend to shoot. Of course, he then followed up by saying, if it is worth shooting once, it is worth shooting twice.
30 Pieces
Try as many weapons as you can in different calibers. Each weapon even of the same make and model has its own feel. A 22 in the face will do far more than a 45 in the wall. I’m partial to my Springfield Armory Ultra Compact 45. It has small grips but then I have small hands so its a good fit. Here we celebrate diversity 9 MM, 38 SP, 45 ACP, 44 Mag. Find what works for you and take a practical pistol course to learn how to train.
I was under the impression you can use a shot/slug/shot/slug combo in the clip.
Proud Life member of the NRA here. Only shoot for self-defense, pleasure and sport (hunting).
I do recommend that anyone considering a 1st time gun purchase and CCW for PP, start slow. If you do not have family or friends to learn from, go to a local shooting range or club and ask around. They will put you onto some pistols to try out. Guys at my club are always eager to help out a ‘newbie’.
Accuracy trumps caliber. Practice, practice, practice. A .22 cal. is economical and is great to learn good shooting skills for any siuation. Progress up to the caliber you are comfortable with for PP.
Some of my favorites: Ruger Mark III, .22, 6″ SS, is for plinking, fishing, mushroom hunting, etc.
Springfield XD, 4″ in .40 S&W for PP.
Ruger Super RH in .480 Ruger w/9″ bbl for hunting, aw aw aw aw! Both its bark and its bite are not to be taken lightly.
When can we talk about our shotguns, our rifles, our black-powder guns, and our military style weapons? Yes, I meant the dreaded “Assault” weapons, I love ‘em!
Excuse me, now I have to go pee on a bush or something!
Absolutely, I taught my 11 year old niece to shoot. Her father just could not be critical enough of her technique to be of help to her. I’ve watched boyfriends and husbands at the range trying to teach the other half. More than once I’ve seen terrible form ignored probably because they did not want to spark a fight with the other half by correcting them. Get a professional to teach you to shoot from the start.
Laree, #249…I just finished reading my first book on the Melungeons and found it
fascinating. The author was tracing his family and in the process of listing and writing
about his family he also brought out that there is some thought that Nancy Hanks, Abe
Lincoln’s Mother may have been Melungeon. He also brought out that Andrew Jackson
may have had some Melungeon relatives that he very neatly disposed of by packing them up and sending them on the Trail of Tears with the Cherokee.
I found it so interesting that they claim to be “Portugee” or Turkish and spoke a sort of
Shakespearean English at one time. They and the Lumbee Indians who have names that harken back to the Roanoke Colony ( Lumbees not Melungeons) really have been
neglected. I do understand that the Lumbee are trying to have themselves declared a
Native American tribe which is hard with those English last names.
Am intending to hit Amazon for some more books on the subject.
GK-
A shotgun used for home defense is a good choice, but realize that large lead shot will blow through a human body and keep going. I just read an article today about 00 buckshot…5 yds away spread 5 inches; 7 yards away spreads 7 inches…you must be aware of what’s behind your target.
Ammo like Glasers, Cor-Bon Power Ball, and others, is designed to expend all it’s energy inside a body cavity (that’s why many law enforcement agencies have gone to it.) This ammo causes massive tissue damage and devastating hydro-static shock. It is designed to be highly frangible to reduce pass throughs.
On the subject of Saiga’s…it’s Russian made, and I personally wouldn’t want to send any more money to that regime. Buy American. Entry level Remington model 870 is inexpensive, reliable, and will more than do the job.
31Bravo – that was funny (wiping off keyboard) and I consider the boiling potatoes not punishment enough!
Rightisright – sage advice for anyone to remember if/when the urge to teach a woman anything rears it’s head…just sayin’. You are a very wise man.
Goldwater, you could but again the same problems arise. Rifled slug is highly inaccurate (due to the rifling being molded in to the slug and not on the shotguns bore) and thats 2-3 ounces of lead with a whole shedload of powder behind it- it’s the one exception to the bigger cross sectional area being a deterrent to over penetration.
Bullets are funny things and sometimes do things you would not think possible, but once that bullet has left the muzzle, you cannot call it back. I’ve seen bullets kill people in way that I have yet to explain, yet they did.
Remember you are likely to be moving in an eclosed area, possibly with people/kids sleeping in rooms separated from you by some sheet rock and insulation only. A long gun is NOT the best choice in that situation. Pistol grip you say? Try firing a shotgun for more than a few rounds with that and you will feel like your wrist is being twisted off.
large caliber, slow moving (<1000 fps) hollow points in a quality handgun is the way to go.
Revolvers go for SW, Ruger, Charter Arms.
Semi-auto go for Glock, Sig Sauer, HK, Springfield Armory or Kimbal.
http://www.americanarmed.blogspot.com
Just imagine if the media did their job and exposed O’s lack of experience.
Just imagine if America understood that Obama would not even stand up for the rights of born children.
lol txrose,
I read your
post’s
and my head wants to
explode.
I read them
outloud
and I sound like
obama
without a teleprompter
hummin
and hahin
because of
the
way you set them
up.
hugs, aj
Having lived in Alaska for a good deal of time I can say that Sarah Palin is a “typical Alaskan Woman.” The state is full of them.
Exactly, as I stated earlier, think what this country would be like if only 1/3 of the mass media were conservative, can you imagine?
Ok, so thats the Alcan highway north right?
Laree, the book that I read was written by Brent Kennedy. Good luck in your search.
My Mother traced one side of our family back to 1199 and a man that went to the
Crusades with Geoffrey. He was lucky enough to return home. If I remember my
history, Geoffrey was not.
Just ensure that your Hi-Power functions with it before you load up for real. Nothing worse than finding out that your autoloader has become a manual repeater in a fight except finding out that it has just become a short, light, awkward club.
ECS
In the USAF I carried an M870 12 ga loaded down with 00 buck as close in security on nuclear weapons convoys. This was a weapon of last resort.
From the patterns we were throwing on the range I wouldn’t use a “boomstick” for home protection unless I owned a Home Depot and Bob Villa was my next door neighbor.
For home security give me something nice and easy to shoot and something that feels familiar and reassuring in my hand. 9mm Baretta would work but a Ruger Standard Model .22 works for me because I’m familiar with its feel.
That, some Spackle for those little exit wounds, some hydrogen peroxide to get the bloodstains up, a PeTA approved body bag and your house is safe and secure.
That’s a left turn after Saskatchewan, right?
Preparing for another long winter in Bristol Bay, Alaska. Thank God (or algore), for the internet and satellite dishes!
You know, I watched that video of the Tree mourners twice before I sent it off to all my friends and well wishers, and each time I have seen it, I just can’t help but wonder, “How the hell can those men actually feel like they have an ounce of testosterone in their systems”.
Seriously…are there women out there that would actually be interested in a make who is in hysterical sorrow, who wanders out into a forest all to wail, wrend their garments, and gnash their teeth over some cut down trees?
These guys would have got their butts destroyed in school. I cannot imagine for one moment, one nano-second that there would be any woman that could look at these sissies…yes, that’s right, I called them sissies…and think, “Oh, what a sensitive and rational man. I would just love to marry him and have his babies. He would most surely be a great provider and protector for me and for our children. What a sexy maaayyun.”
Just looking at that makes you want to grab each and every one of them by the front of their unwashed, smelly shirts and slap them around, telling them to man up, let them drop and stop acting like some sort of 2 year old who lost their woobie.
But then that might just be me.
TXRose,
Our problem didn’t stem from the Turkish Theory, although it has been disproven, the problem is when they joined the AATA and were used to lobby our Government. The MHA is a board of about 6 and can’t speak or represent any people of Melungeon ethnicity but that is exactly what happened. We told them not in our name, don’t get us involved in Politics.
Wayne Winkler the President of MHA was one of the first ones to resign he is now the President of the Historical Melungeon Society, it is based on historically accepted research standards. The standards are already in place, re the board of certified genealogist. There are many books on The Melungeons. Wayne Winkler wrote one himself.
TXRose
Wayne Winkler wrote “Walking Toward the Sunset” this is a list of the books offered I am contact with a couple of them Tim Hashaw and Dennis Maggard.
Wayne Winkler also runs a radio station in West Virginia.
http://www.amazon.com/Walking-Toward-Sunset-Melungeons-Appalachia/dp/0865548692/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220825851&sr=1-5
This Radio station WETS
http://www.wets.org/index.cgi?&CONTEXT=cat&cat=105
This link is better it has photo of Wayne Winkler you can see what a Melungeon looks like BIG GRIN.
http://dntricities.blogspot.com/2007/02/history-of-democracy-now-broadcasts-on.html
And gee…I don’t have any idea where all of us Republicans and Conservatives could have ever come up with the idea that the Democrats would even THINK about throwing out all those flags. After all, they have shown nothing but pure reverence, honor and respect for it. It’s not like they would go and burn them or anything like that.
By the looks of how the 9′ers are doing, it doesn’t look like mine are doing all that well either. Another year of looking like a bad college team. Oh the pains of us 49er Faithful.
Watched that yesterday. It was the scenes with the wives that would get to me.
RetFireman and AJ – how ’bout them Cowboys? Course, T.O. has a pouty lip out. I’ll slink away now….
Azygos,
Thanks. IN order to shoot at the local shooting range, I need to obtain a NJ Firearm ID and become a member of the NRA. Step 1: I signed up today. Step 2: obtain the application form for the NJFID. I’ll keep you guys posted.