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Go Steelers!
What are all of you complaining about?
I live in Buffalo, home of the most famous “wanna bes ” in the NFL. Although, they did play pretty well against the Seachickens..er Seahawks.
Funny, people didn’t like that when I was stationed up in Spokane.
TXRose,
This link shows my Gibsons, I descend from a Majer/ Major Gibson, old Orange Co.,N.C. We intermarried with Collins who have been identified as Saponi Indians.
http://www.jgoins.com/old_thomas_collins.htm
What is interesting is that Barack Obama, has family members, his mother’s side of the family, who have matched the Bunches from Bertie Co.,N.C., there is a possibility that through his mother, he has Melungeon Roots? One of our DNA Participants a Collins, matched two of Obama’s relatives, per DNA test back to Nathaniel Bunch in Bertie Co.,N.C. Jack Goins is the administrator of the Core Melungeon DNA project. That is his link above.
Cowboys are jammin….
Get to sit and watch Indy and the Bears tonight, that should be fun.
Go steelers, yeah. to Canada…. lol
PKAmmoTroop said:
That’s ironic that’s where I heard of that shot/slug/shot/slug combo in the clip; security guards at a nuclear Plant here in NY; the shot drops you then the slug finishes the job.
Seachickens are great! at punting.
As for my Sunday, wake the kids, a couple of fire/ems responses, church, bakery for rolls for the week, look at a house (oops…my family REALLY likes it), clean basement (didn’t do it, watched Bills instead), helped daughter do Chemistry over phone (at college), order Bob & John’s for Pizza, go back down and reconsider basement…now listening on minitor about a car fire next to attached garage..maybe I’ll be going on a FAST/RIT call
AJ – the Cowboys are jammin. Love those ‘boys but dang they make my teeth hurt. I’ll have TMJ by spring.
Wyoming and Montana are on my long list, but the housing prices are up there above idaho and Kentucky.
Texas was briefly, but it is too flat, too hot, too brown for my taste. If I have to give up my ocean, I will require more mountains and green.
Sorry my posts seem a bit behind. I have actually been sitting here watching the game and getting caught up on the entire thread.
Thank you for the information Laree. As I said, if Mother can trace our back as far as
she did on the one side, there is hope for others doing the same. We’re not Melungeon
but I did know a woman when I was a teen that I thought was Cherokee or Choctaw.
She told me she wasn’t Indian but Melungeon. She said that she was forced to come to
Oklahoma as an infant with her family and all but she and a brother died. An Indian
family took them in, and they knew their history and told them about it when they were
old enough to understand. I had sort of forgotten about her until I read this book and
was telling one of my sisters about it and she reminded me about “Aunt” Daisy. That
made me want to learn more.
No no no..that’s the Toronto Bills..we already have games planned up there over the next couple of years. Oh, love the way the Wilsons show appreciation for our community buying them a new stadium, upgrade it, and add an enclosed practice field.
Garage is now fully involved…
Must….visit….Alaska!
I don’t think very many people would be in condition to keep fighting after a load of buckshot. If they were, I’d be happy to give them another load.
A shotgun is what I keep for home defense. I live alone, so anyone else I see in the house at night has no business being there. I’ve handled shotguns all my life and I’m very comfortable with them. In a situation where I had do what needed to be done without thinking about how, a shotgun would be just the thing.
Without a doubt fireman, I will never forget a 30 day trip up there, ever.
Absolutely amazing.
Guess I’m luckier than most. I grew up in a house full of guns. I can remember my Dad holding a revolver up and letting me pull the trigger.
I have a 9mm and a .45 auto, but I still prefer a .357 magnum revolver. I let my wife, who only saw guns in movies, shoot several of mine. She does the best with my Smith and Wesson Model 66 .357 magnum loaded with light .38 special loads.
30 Pieces Of Silver, always remember to keep it pointed in a safe direction. Once I was letting my wife shoot my .38 sub nosed revolver. She cocked the hammer, then turned around to ask me a question! Have you ever had a loaded and cocked .38 with a finger on the trigger pointed at your guts!? Not a pretty sight!
Niners are still alive. SD/Carolina is a close game also.
tre,
Thanks. No, I can safely say that I have not.
YOu need a hug… lol
Yup.
And one hint, especially for you ladies: When you buy a revolver one great thing to do is take it to a local gunsmith and have them smooth out the trigger pull by smoothing off the burrs and such in the internal mechanism. This will also reduce the trigger pull by 2-3 lbs. and will make it more comfortable to shoot and help you keep your sight on target during that loongggg trigger pull.
http://www.americanarmed.blogspot.com
http://www.cafepress.com/4therepublic
Guess who?
…just because you have an individual right does not mean that the local or state government cannot constrain the exercise of that right.
pelosi?
Laree, thanks for the Collins link. I bookmarked it to read later. I should have a
decent lunch hour tomorrow and I can catch up then.
A post I made July 28th, and just updated to reflect today’s events:
A Huge, Huge Mistake – Among the Biggest of W’s Presidency
Obie said it.
I thought Odopey was to obivious. lol, what a twit he is.
RetFireman #309
When looking, check out the property taxes (you can buy 3 times the house in Texas but the rate is 2.74? in Tarrant County/Ft. Worth and ugly). Also, the proximity to major medical, airports, and actual cost of living. Bought our little bitty second home due to it’s number of miles to the local hospitals and Costco (some things are just important). Lastly, sales tax and personal income tax. The hardest question I’ve ever faced was whether I could live without Mendocino, Carmel, Morro Bay or San Diego. I quickly learned planes fly in both directions and if I’m really suffering withdrawals – I can always watch a movie made there.
My unasked for advice – those that are looking to either retire or relocate, take a one week vacation for each area you’re looking. Chances are there is someone in our little group that can give you first hand knowledge of that area and it’s expenses.
It appears that comment was directed at myself, it has remnants of my post about shotguns for home protection. Let me repeat gun choice is just that a choice, if there was 1 and only 1 perfect HP gun we’d all be using it and there would be no for discussion on the subject. There is positives and negatives on all types of guns we have to choice from, agreed?
As far as racking a shotgun for effect, most home intrusions take place at evening or later night hours, where there is minimal or limited loud noise. I doubt there are many loud pinata parties going on in homes at night where 6 or more partiers are fighting. It may be the case, just highly unlikely.
IMHO no matter which type gun is used the shooter has to be aware of what’s going on behind the intruder.
Thank you Barack; your true colors.
Via DRUDGE:
NYT PREPARES
TO FRONT EXPOSEHUGE SMEAR PIECE ON PALIN’S BABY… DEVELOPING…Watch this one blow up on them. Lol.
Opting out of a motocross race to do yard work. Major bummer.
Just illustrating a point that racking shotgun slide is not necessarily the deterrent it is portrayed to be in the movies, as my ‘friend’ aptly illustrates
. And frankly if you get someone who is ‘mission focused’ I don’t care how quiet it is, racking a shell is going to do bubkis. To the other point, 9+ pellets flying around in an enclosed space= recipe disaster.
I agree that there is no perfect firearm, and it is down to personal choice, however, there are people such as your humble narrator who do have a great deal of experience with this sort of thing and don’t make recommendations based on anything but observed outcomes.
Everyone is free to make their own choice, I’m just offering insight as to why one might be better than another based on training and experience. Always be aware of your backstop is the saying.
http://www.americanarmed.blogspot.com
http://www.cafepress.com/4therepublic
ECS, I don’t think people realize just how awesome the Army competitive team is, including the gold medalist from this year’s Olympics.
Thank you for your service.
Interesting that, in an open thread on a conservative blog, so much of the discussion is about how we exercise our 2nd ammendment rights. Show me that on a liberal blog.
Over on Hot Air is a great link with prominent Democrats and former Hillary supporters who have crossed over and are now openly supporting McCain.
Ambassador Irwin’s response with respect to Obama’s foreign policy creds in the 3rd video near the end is particularly damning.
PS: Thanks MM for Hot Air – I am completely addicted, although I do miss your video bursts.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/07/video-citizens-for-mccain-press-conference/
Mrs. Malkin, I’m a little surprised that there was no thread about the LPGA backing off of it’s initial plans mandating players speak a decent amount of English to participate.
LPGA Rescinds Discriminatory Policy
http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/73397
LPGA backs down on its English policy
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/sports/golf/story/7e911cec07ab30bd862574bc000e11e5?OpenDocument
Why was there no discussion or statement on the topic?
I saw Representative Tancredo issued a statement on the matter.
31Bravo,
I appreciate your experience along with your input, definitely info to consider by all when looking for home protection.
PelosiGate has been ignored by the MSM and many blogs, except for Catholic intelligentsia.
Nancy has been publicly castigated by at least 27 Catholic cardinals, bishops, and clergy. (From The American Papist)
Perhaps the sharpest and most powerful rebuke came from Cardinal Egan:
24KLady,
Not all of the houses in Tarrant County are small and ugly. Ours isn’t and if you
want to be relatively close to Costco (the one between Bryant Irvin and Hulen?)
you can buy in any number of areas that have nice reasonably priced homes.
Thanks for the link. IBD is a great paper, but I stopped subscribing a few years ago when I retired. This is a great series of articles, recounting in exquisite detail the thoroughly Marxist upbringing and weltanshauung of the Democrat presidential candidate.
Does anyone think Sarah Palin can swing Pennsylvania to “red state” because she’s got a strong energy stance. Energy is the most important issue for Pennsylvanians and Barack currently has a 3 point lead.
I think He could swing Michigan too but I feel he really has to get Mitt Romney on board somehow as a tentative cabinet member.
txrose and ath, thanks for the posts, been in football mode. And the Dewits wonder why their approval rating sucks moose wang. Pelosi is a hag, so is Tommy boy Reid.
Methinks Ms Pelosi has gotten way too big for her knickers. I know the Archbishop said that he was getting a lot of mail from Catholics about her but
when a Cardinal is dissatisfied, well, heads will roll. This is why she is to have a
“discussion” with the Archbishop. Someone may not be taking communion if she isn’t careful. She had said either in the interview or in response to the interview that, thankfully, taking communion had never been a problem in her
particular church. Guess she thinks she can treat the church like she treats the
rest of us. Not.
I doubt we will ever hear what happens in that discussion but I would be that a
certain big mouth is about to get her ears verbally boxed.
The Role of the Defensive Long Gun
Unless your hallway or bedroom is greater than 45 feet you should do fine.
Should be, I would bet that a certain big mouth…….
I know this probably does not matter much to Americans but today the Canadian Parliament was dissolved meaning we have our Federal Election on October 14th 2008.
I’m a proud supporter of the Conservative Government of Canada under the Right Honorable Stephen Harper and I sincerely hope he can come through victorious in our elections. He is a valuable ally of the United States and has been the most respectful Prime Minister towards US Relations since 1993.
Here’s to McCain/Palin and Harper respectively!
Hope we wind up with McCain/Palin running the USA
and Harper running Canada, Rommsey.
TXRose
The Melungeons are an interesting subject.
There are so many theorys, when asked what their ethnicity was, they would reply Portyghee. The Spanish were in the area St Elenas, I am not sure I spelled that correctly. The Portuguese Sailed with the Spanish. The Spanish were constantly imprisoning the Indians to force them to work in the mines and smelters. There are records when people passing through Cherokee territory would write down accounts of battles btw the Cherokee and the Spanish, that were relayed to them by the Cherokee. That was in the 1600s.
This was posted on Imus Times, under Double Standards heading. Do they really want to make children and spouse fair game in this election?
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2008/09/bidens-daughter-arrested-law-and-order.html
TXRose
Remember George Allen late Senator of Virginia, and how he lost his re election because he was basically being accused of racism. (macaca) He was the one getting a Bill passed to undue all the harm to the Indians in Virginia helping with their Tribal Identity. Among them was the Melungeons who Walter Ashby Plecker, tried to wipe out. If you scroll down towards the bottom of this article, you can read what George Allen, was doing, trying to undue decades of Walter Pleckers eugenics agenda. If George Allen, is a racist or a bigot, he is a very poor one.
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2004/09/the_black_white.php
Hi Rommsey!
Funny that you should post about the Canadian election….I have been trying to warn people about the danger of “protest” votes…
Bob Rae’s NDP party (he was a community organizer), traditionally a distant third party, WON the 1990 Ontario election as a result of the majority of people voting “protest” votes to “teach” the Conservatives/Liberals
“a lesson”.
I still remember the shock when it was announced the NDP won. Their govt of course was a complete disaster…because of the economic recession, they couldn’t fulfill their wish list of touchy-feely progressive ideals, and ended up bitterly dividing labor and the NDP. “Rae” days (mandatory days off w/o pay) were a complete disaster and did not help balance the budget. Needless to say, the NDP have not been in power since.
This election in the swing states is going to come down to every vote in every precinct.
I have been trying to warn our friends in PA and VA that this isn’t the time for “protest” votes and writing in third party candidates.
I hope a lesson can be learned from the NDP/Bob Rae “community organizer” debacle of 1990.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_general_election,_1990
I guess use of the Rack and Iron Maiden is out of the question.
I think George Allen was Imus’d.
Virginia has tried to erase Plecker’s legacy. It has established councils on Indian affairs and has conferred official state recognition on eight tribes, a designation that provides no privileges. But Indian leaders say recognition equals respect.
In 1997, then-Gov. George F. Allen simplified procedures for people to correct inaccurate birth records. Hearl had her race changed from black to Indian.
“I know who I am and I’m proud of it,” she said. The going has been tougher in Washington, where Virginia Indians are trying to join 562 tribes around the country that are federally recognized. The Bush administration has been unwilling to ease application rules.
Allen, now a U.S. senator, is again championing the Indians’ cause. The Republican has authored legislation that would bypass bureaucratic requirements and allow Congress to federally recognize the tribes. Allen, during a Senate hearing last year, lamented Virginia’s racist past.
“Virginia Indians were not extended the rights offered to other U.S. citizens, and the years of discrimination and coercive policies took a tremendous toll,” he said.
The bill has been approved by a key Senate committee and may come up for a floor vote later this year.
Laree,
George Allen is no longer a Senator.
He was defeated by Jim Webb.
Laree,
George Allen is no longer a Senator.
He was defeated by Jim Webb.
I stated late Senator
Remember George Allen late Senator of Virginia
I have read, Senator James Webbs Book “Born Fighting How the Scots Irish Shaped America” He has also been a guest on Imus in the Morning.
Our son and dil live in Va and he has been keeping me up on this. Native rights
are a big thing with me since we are Cherokee who managed to avoid all three of
the removals. Our family finally came to Kaufman County, Tx because my
Grandfather had “consumption.” Actually it was asthma and he died of an asthma
attack while haying on his dairy farm outside Chickasha, Oklahoma. His brother,
my Great Uncle was always my Grandfather after that.
I do know from the Brent Kennedy book that some Melungeons were classed as
free persons of color as well as Indians. I wonder how many people that think
they are black started out as Melungeons.
Well, that covers us both doesn’t it? Since I am Scots Irish and Cherokee.
My Father In Law used to call our boys 5 Nations Babies, since my husband
is Bohemian and Tuscano Italian.
Will keep a Harper victory in my prayers. Best of luck to you folks in Canada, rommsey.
Back when people were threatening to stay home or vote third party because they
truly could not stomach voting for McCain, I tried and tried to explain to them
that all they were doing was putting Obama and his buds into office. The answer
was usually fine, let them screw it up. That’ll show ‘em. Never have been certain
who the ‘em are, but, yes, it would show ‘em. Or, they would say that I could be
a traitor to the conservative base and vote for McCain but that would make me a
traitor. To what? Conservatives whose noses are out of joint and are throwing a
tantrum?
I – am – so – glad – McCain – chose – Governor – Sarah!
TXRose #340
We have a lovely little place off the 121 @Glade Rd. (within 10 minutes of backroads to DFW), two minutes to La Hacienda Ranch!!!, the best salsa on God’s earth and ice cold Shiner or marguaritas….Texas is our home, but the older one gets and the fact the summer’s get increasingly hotter as one ages – another little place on the Canadian border. Sell the big ol’ place with tons more bedrooms than you visit in a year and go to smaller digs that afford you the opportunity to live in two/three different places. Less is more!
I know. The Ozarks are looking good to us right now. Just don’t want to
land somewhere where the family trees don’t have a lot of forks in them.
LOL
ajmontana (#183):
Yahoo Sports and WEEI radio in Boston are both reporting Brady has a torn ACL and is out for the season.
Egad.
I think it’s a bonus. Sarah will attract the small town and rural voter because of her gun and hunting culture, of which many Pennsylvanians subscribe. The additional factor of her energy policy savvy will attract another demographic – which occupies both sides.
We’re in Southwest Tarrant County, sort of in the country.
Demother,
I just heard that during the Colts Bears game… ouch indeed.
denmother… sheesh. sorry.
TXRose
There was an article, let me see if can find it. It was called the little races, and it is about how early, when the country was being colonized, how the different ethnicity’s, decided which category to place themselves in. The Melungeons chose white the Lumbees chose Indian and so forth.
TXRose, conservatives may have been able to send a message to the Republican Party without subjecting the country to an Obama presidency. I’m sure the GOP noticed how the donations dried up when the primaries resulted in a candidate conservatives didn’t approve of, and how freely they flowed when we got a VP pick conservatives did approve of.
There are some hurts alcohol can’t help.
TXRose
This is the historical melungeon blog. This article addresses how the different ethnicitys decided to classify themselves.
http://historical-melungeons.blogspot.com/2008/03/of-portuguese-origin-litigating.html
These are the same ladys blogging Meet the Real Sarah Palin.
TXRose
Lake of the Ozarks is another beautiful place @Osage Beach – Grand Lake of the Cherokees in Oklahoma is another….but they still have tornadoes and lots of weather. Family from both those places; like to visit but I’m so done with sitting in a bathtub with no water and a baby mattress handy/weather radio/cell phone and yet, there is nothing like a cloud to ground lightning storm over Dallas. This Calif. kid learned to love it.
Via Drudge:
Those people who claim to vote strictly according to “principle” lack a fundamental understanding that effective politics must always contain elements of pragmatism.
The only reason why they are unwilling to accept “anything less” is because they don’t want to work after the election. To paraphrase Newt, I’d take McCain who I will have to fight 30% of the time (and has shown that he listens), over Obama, who I’d fight 90% of the time, and who does not listen.
We don’t just go back to sleep on November 5. We cannot cease to be vigilant and active – particularly in these times with the multikulti, pc rot which pervades western society.
Apparently those folks have thrown in the towel. More fool them.
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
I’m loving the sound of this!
Goldwater Ha!
They should just dump em like the Dems throw away Flags, in hefty bags next to the dumpster.
Gee Whizz! I really miss tingle ling and Dingle ling.
atheling #375
So very true. I am not, nor ever have been, a firm supporter of McCain – yet the alternative is one I cannot fathom. By the Grace of God, McCain managed to win me over by his choice of Palin. She may very well be the most important choice of this decade and the salvation of the conservative movement. She is so much bigger than he is it’s scary. We so sorely needed someone to remind us WHY we believe as we do, and WHAT it is we will support. I truly believe it is now up to the party to lose this election. Let’s pray they have the mettle to sway those on the fence to keep the momentum going, and the hope of America in focus.
Thanks Laree. Bookmarked that site also. 24K, I was raised with tornadoes so I wouldn’t know how to live without them. I just watch my dogs. Always have had herding dogs. Collies when I was a kid and when
the boys were small. Now we have our fourth sheltie. When she starts
wanting to hide, we go to the big closet.side by side. All of my family lives in Oklahoma and a niece lives in Van Buren, Arkansas. She wants us to move there. Bella Vista, AR is supposed to be great but don’t want to live in AR. Ok did get rid of a lot of their illegals. There’s that to think about. Thing is, being born in OK, raised in AZ, S TX and OK, I don’t do cold weather very well.
You said it! I was going to hold my nose and vote for McCain, but now I’m jazzed for this election and am participating!
HA!
Spoken by a true conservative, Winston Churchill:
zorro (#69)…sorry for the all day delay. Yes, I think Ferrari has to go with Massa, he is their best hope. Hamilton is a talented driver, but man, does he luck into some things. Heidfeld would have won this thing had it gone one more lap (or the rain started a lap earlier). Gutsy call on the tires by BMW.
This was, by far, the wildest Grand Prix finish this year. Looking forward to Monza next Sunday. Now if Speed would go HD, my two hours of escape would be complete.
Now if they just get duffusdorf off the football telecast. Oh happy days that would be.
To all y’all – have a great night. Just ran out of juice – been up since, oh, 3:30 or so.
atheling – McCain was the hardest choice in politics I’ve faced but yet we have to get him elected.
TXRose – I get off on lightning storms, but tornadoes take your breath away. You’ll find the very best place for you and yours – and sometimes it’s in your own backyard.
Laree – sent your links to my e-mail to savor over coffee in the morning.
To the rest of the Mighty MM Warriors – I learned a lot about guns/ammo/what and what not to depend on as far as weapons.
Thank you all. I just love open threads.
Well, basement still dirty and disorganized, kid fed with Pizza, and now Inside 9/11 is on the Nat’l Geographic Channel.
I will watch this, and “9/11″ on Thursday, as will my kids, who each (except my youngest who was 1.5 yrs) have their own memory of the day…most surrounding dad swearing at the TV, swearing at the phone when I couldn’t get in touch with my base, dad going in to work, then returning soon to grab his A bag and his uniform. memories of FBI and other agents out in Buffalo with small and heavy munitions around the fed bldgs
Thank you. i was so thrilled with Gov Sarah as his choice. I didn’t care for
him alone and was afraid that he would pick someone sameo sameo. Instead he looked at her creds and I’m sure he looked at the petition and
used his brain!
I would have voted for him because, to me, to let Obama get into office because I am unhappy, would have been intolerable. The man is such an
enigma and the MSM is so besotted with him that they won’t vet him. Yet,
they sit there and prissily declare that they must vet Gov Sarah because “we know nothing about her.” How can that be? She’s the Gov of Alaska. Are they so obtuse that unless the Governor of Alaska goes postal, she does not exist. She’s been there, in the public eye for over two years. I knew who she was.
I signed the petition to draft her for VP.
USATODAY POLL: MCCAIN TAKES 10-POINT LEAD OVER OBAMA IN LIKELY VOTERS…
Night 24K. I’m about to sign off. Got to clean and refill Hummy feeders. Do it at
night so they don’t come to the feeders and find them gone.
Then, I’ll play with the girls (papillon and sheltie) before turning in.
Enjoyed it. Thanks for the info Laree. I know that I will enjoy reading it all.
Night everyone.
TXRose, 24Klady,
I like open threads too. Did I post this link already. In case someone missed it. I truly think it is a mistake to involve children and spouse is that why McCain has a 10 point lead over Obama among likely voters. I would Bet Yes.
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2008/09/bidens-daughter-arrested-law-and-order.html
TxRose…I’m beginning to wonder about you…LOL…I’m in Kaufman County too. My Mom’s family has been here since before the Late War of Northern Aggression Against States’ Rights.
My Dad’s family has been in the “Dallas Area” since the Republic of Texas days.
This is interesting.
One branch of my maternal grandfather’s family went to Oklahoma…and we had not contacted them since 1940. They looking for us…and we for them. We finally all got connected back up thanks to a DNA Project and a buccal swab of my 96 year old grandfather a few months back.
I am in Denton County
Oh yeah.
Cool! Tis always good to know your neighbors.
OUT FRELLING STANDING!!!
What NEWS!!!
First McCain/Palin are leading Obama/Biden (Carter ’08) by 10 points in most likely voters
but now, PMSNBC is actually going to attempt some Journalism!!! You might say they pulled their @sses out of their head.
(Anyone else hear the sound of muffled giggling coming from Michelle’s work station?)
Some funny business on this very nice Sunday evening. Enjoy!
Our niece and her husband will return to Iraq in January. I read that so far this year, more people have died violently in Chicago than Baghdad.
So, we have a personal reason to be glad Obama and the Democratic congressional leaders couldn’t stop the surge.
I’m back really quickly before turning in. This has been a great open thread.
Laree in Denton County, TexasEngineer in Kaufman County, 24KLady and TXRose in Tarrant County. Wah Hoo!! Night again, y’all.
Does this make Kim Kardashian a racist pig? Seems to me that this is a racist saying. But what do I know…I support GOVERNOR Sarah Palin against all the slime they throw at her.