Slick Joe Biden admits: Yes, I’m a cold-blooded murderer

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 8, 2008 08:00 AM

Joe Biden gave us another notable moment this weekend on Meet The Press when he came the closest a high-ranking Democrat has come to admitting his advocacy of cold-blooded murder. Guess he didn’t want to get stuck like Pelosi, with Catholic officials breathing down her stiff neck:

Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic nominee for vice president, departed Sunday from party doctrine on abortion rights, declaring that as a Catholic, he believes life begins at conception.

While Mr. Biden’s views may not be new to Democrats in his circle, his comments, in an interview on “Meet the Press” on NBC, came at a time when his party is confronted with a new face: Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, whose anti-abortion stance and decision to give birth just five months ago to a baby with Down syndrome have revved up the conservative base of her party.

In the interview Sunday, Mr. Biden tried to walk the line between the staunch abortion-rights advocates in his party and his own religious beliefs. While he said he did not often talk about his faith, he said of those who disagree with him: “They believe in their faith and they believe in human life, and they have differing views as to when life — I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.”

And so, I wonder, is he also prepared to accept his culpability in perpetuating the mass destruction of millions of those unborn lives that began at the moment of conception?

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  1. #1
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:04 am, Rob said:

    “I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.”

    NOT the smartest statement… I hope Palin is ready to use that line to eat him alive

  2. #2
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:05 am, rooster said:

    Mr. Biden, if life begins at conception, wouldn’t abortion be akin to murder? Waiting for the msm to ask this question…………

  3. #3
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:07 am, TypicalWhite said:

    Well, I have to say that’s the only honest position a pro-abort can take: “Yes, I know she’s is a baby, not a mass of cells; but I’m going to kill her anyway because she is interfering with the life I want to live.” Grotesque, but honest.

  4. #4
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:07 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    BO your judgment in selecting Joe Biden as your running mate was pure genius.

    /sarc

    As for Biden admitting that life begins at conception – well, what say you liberals?

    Instead of weeping for fallen trees. I weep for the millions of lives snuffed out in the name of “choice”.

  5. #5
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:10 am, guitarplayer said:

    Just shows that they are getting desperate if they’re trying to pander to the pro-life folks.

  6. #6
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:10 am, englishqueen01 said:

    And so, I wonder, is he also prepared to accept his culpability in perpetuating the mass destruction of millions of those unborn lives that began at the moment of conception?

    No. Here’s what’s going to happen. The pro-abortion movement is going to acknowledge that life begins at conception…and say they just don’t care.

    Why? Because that life was unplanned, inconvenient, unwanted…and because it’s all about absolving one’s self from the consequences of one’s actions. Now, that’s not the same as Obama’s view that babies conceived outside of careful planning are “punishments” – all actions have consequences.

    And our culture is about as unwilling to understand consequences and personal responsibility as is humanly possible. It’s all about sex – getting it on wherever, whenever, with whom/whatever. Consequences be damned. How dare we tell them what to do with their bodies! They have a right to murder another individual if that individual threatens to cramp their lifestyle.

    So expect a shift in the pro-abortion movement. “Yeah, it’s human,” they’ll say, “but we’re still going to kill it.”

  7. #7
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:13 am, ajmontana said:

    lol, tree weepers, retfireman sumed up those guys perfectly.
    The debates will be fun.

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′
    Image: Bidet’s handlers better have his binky and blankey at the ready. :shock:

  8. #8
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:16 am, navywife91 said:

    Image: Bidet’s handlers better have his binky and blankey at the ready.

    Now that’s what I’m looking forward to!

  9. #9
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:18 am, Jim M. said:

    Perhaps Biden can enlighten us on what age one’s offspring need to attain before a mother loses the “right” to kill it.

    Is it 18? They can vote then, and thus become useful to the Democrats.

  10. #10
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:19 am, PKAmmoTroop said:

    Joe Biden: “I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.”

    So by saying this you’re telling us that Joe Biden is in a much higher pay grade than Barak Hussein Obama?

    Good to know!

  11. #11
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:19 am, NY Andy said:

    So we have a candidate on their side who believes that life begins at conception but may be taken anyway and the top of their ticket who believes it begins after the doctor decides whether to let the baby live or die alone in a linen closet.

    Could there be any stronger reason to vote McCain – Palin?

    New tagline for the dem ticket:

    Obama – Biden, the murderers we’ve been waiting for

  12. #12
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:23 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    This statement will not help MO’s kids. Rest assured.

  13. #13
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:24 am, ajmontana said:

    NY Andy, exactly, they just don’t care, especially Odopey with his lame “over my pay grade” comment.
    Everything is above that mark.
    “present” does not a senator make and not even close to a President.

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′
    Image: Obama’s pay grade should be minimum wage. 8)

  14. #14
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:26 am, tarpon said:

    PKAmmoTroop: So by saying this you’re telling us that Joe Biden is in a much higher pay grade than Barak Hussein Obama?

    Good to know!

    You find out all sorts of things from campaign interviews — Like ‘my Muslim faith’ they just seem to flop out on the table at odd times.

    No one can lie 100% accurately, 100% of the time, it’s just not humanly possible.

  15. #15
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:30 am, Ron said:

    Nice to know, like Obama and apparently now Biden, that many near-families are struggling with the moral decision of which of their children to kill, and when to kill them. God forbid they should be punished for their “mistakes.”

  16. #16
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:30 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Biden isn’t a cold-blooded murderer. A fool yes, but driving the debate to such extremes is un-reproductive.

  17. #17
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:34 am, jangar said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:10 am, englishqueen01 said:

    …and they just flat out don’t value human life. Save every plant, animal and rock out there, but to heck with human life. They see humans as the germ killing the earth.

  18. #18
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:38 am, DesertLover said:

    30 …

    Liberals should rename their supporters to “Pro-Abortion” …

    By definition the word “choice” implies more than one option … in the liberal mind there is only one option … abortion … therefore no “choice” …

    Sarah and Bristol Palin are examples of true “Pro-Choice” … and they both chose life …

  19. #19
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:42 am, Thunderbird 1 said:

    Great post englishqueen01.

    Come to think of it, most puppies and kittens are “unplanned, unwanted and inconvenient.” Imagine the uproar if we arbitrarily starting whacking them?

    I agree Biden will have a difficult time with this opposite Sarah Palin, but unfortunately, I don’t think Rick Warren is being called upon to moderate the VP debate.

  20. #20
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:43 am, Uplander said:

    I was just wondering where ‘old joe’ has been. Haven’t heard much about him since his bizarre introduction of the obamas on Aug 30 and the selection of Sarah Palin.
    I thought he may have been under the bus. He may well be under the bus as we speak.

  21. #21
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:44 am, jangar said:

    Abortion is nothing more than pagan worship, sacrificing children upon the altar of self gradification. This has been going on for thousands of years.

  22. #22
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:54 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Mr. Biden — I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.

    …but I will fight to the death for a persons right to murder it.

    I wish liberals would complete their thoughts.

  23. #23
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:57 am, bansharia said:

    Englishqueen,
    you came very close to quoting gates and buffet two obamabi supporters.
    Who champion wealth is just dumb luck vs the very hard work it entails.
    the big ZERO and the rest of the dem slacks and media hacks I don’t get it
    no desire to and I’ll be damned if I sit back and let them destroy America!!
    OT: as event am going to in PA tuesday afternoon will be last b4 Sarah flies back home to bid Track gbye as he heads off to Iraq thursday we are arranging a lil something for him. If anyone has wishes we can put on a sign let me know GODSPEED TRACK!!!!

  24. #24
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:58 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Rusty to the rescue with a study on how life does not begin at conception in 5…4…3…

  25. #25
    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:59 am, tc2011 said:

    Someone needs to ask Joe Biden if he supports forcing others to fund (via taxes) Planned “Parenthood” and the abortions they carry out. I mean, he says he doesn’t want to force his faith on others, and his faith apparently says it’s a good thing to provide funds for abortion.

    N.B. Whatever it is, Biden’s faith is not Catholic

  26. #26
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:00 am, md1964 said:

    I hate to say it…but the Catholic church appears to have subplanted Values, and credibility for the sake of the All Mighty Dollar (Yen, Euro, ect..)

    If the Catholic Church Heirarchy was truly in it, 100% for the sake of Humanity and Christian values, they would excommunicate people like this… but they appear to NOT want to stir up anything and lose any more paritioners. And don’t get me on illegal immigration… arghhh!!!!

  27. #27
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:02 am, torabora said:

    Remember folks, there is NO statute of limitations on murder. Roe v Wade legalized abortion but it didn’t legalize murder. If abortion is murder, and most pro-life people believe it is, then be prepared to indict, try, convict, and imprison 10′s of millions of women and their willing confederates…husbands, boyfriends, doctors, nurses, hospital orderlies and secretaries. If twins were aborted it is automatically life without parole… That’s the penalty for premeditated double murder. All the players in a murder are culpable.

    I hate the practice of abortion,but Government needs to stay out of it.

    Taxpayer money should not ever be used in any fashion for this practice. That’s a big reason to abort a government sponsored health care system.

    Another conundrum is that the rich can always go to another country for an abortion. Are we gonna prosecute foreign nationals for murdering American babies?

    This is a deeply divisive subject and I urge all of us to make room for each other. The ingredients for a civil war exist in this.

  28. #28
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:03 am, bansharia said:

    box what are you a troll agitator ;)

  29. #29
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:04 am, dan708 said:

    This brings up a question that has long puzzled me; why do so many Catholics end up voting Democrat?

  30. #30
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:05 am, bansharia said:

    tora that is OTT and no desire to get into that idiocy. yes abortion is wrong but I for one won’t call every woman who ever had one a murderer.

  31. #31
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:06 am, bansharia said:

    dan why do Jews hell why do blacks or whites or asians??
    WHY DOES ANYONE??????

  32. #32
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:07 am, guitarplayer said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:00 am, md1964 said:

    I hate to say it…but the Catholic church appears to have subplanted Values, and credibility for the sake of the All Mighty Dollar (Yen, Euro, ect..)

    I hate to say it, but you’re right. My parents just had their church closed on them. It was built 105 years ago. It was completely paid for – no debt. The small congregation gave enough each week to cover all the bills. What happens? The bishop decided that they’re not making enough money from them and shuts it down. Really sad.

  33. #33
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:10 am, jangar said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:04 am, dan708 said:
    This brings up a question that has long puzzled me; why do so many Catholics end up voting Democrat?

    JFK

  34. #34
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:10 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    dl,
    I concur.

  35. #35
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:12 am, Rusty said:

    His statement is a religious belief, not a scientific one. And it’s not his job as a legislator to enforce his religious beliefs among a populace that does not share his religious views.

    And, EQ, you’re acting pretty hypocritical. Many times in the past you’ve stated that IUDs shouldn’t be outlawed. IUDs are a post-conception birth control device.

    So you have plenty of “murders” on your own conscience.

  36. #36
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:13 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Bansharia,

    A troll basher. You put your quarter in the machine, grap the hammer and when their heads pop up, you smash them. Sometimes, you just have to put another quarter in! 8)

  37. #37
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:14 am, Roland said:

    There are two crazy viewpoints on this issue, and you guys have one of them.

    An embryo is just a clump of tissue, no matter how vehemently you want to deny it. So its DNA is unique? So what. Identical twins have the same DNA, but they are obviously not the same person.

    A baby that’s just minutes from escaping its mother’s womb is a baby, no matter how vehemently the pro-abortion crowd wants to deny it.

    Extremists (starting with activist judges) veto any rational discussion of the issue, and so the population has opted out by accepting the status quo of the mother having the ‘choice.’ What else are they to do when you religious zealots want to force them to keep embryos they don’t want?

  38. #38
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:15 am, bansharia said:

    Box,
    I’ll keep those twobits got better things to spend em on ;)

  39. #39
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:16 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:12 am, Rusty said:
    His statement is a religious belief, not a scientific one.

    AHHHHHH, almost on cue. Not a scientific one?

    Two LIVING cells combine too create death? Tell us oh all knowing one, what do they create – scientifically speaking?

  40. #40
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:16 am, tre said:

    “Pro-choice” is a misnomer. “Pro-abortion” is the correct term. If those people were really pro-choice, then they wouldn’t mind the “choice” of having the baby. Yet Planned Parenthood goes absolutely crazy at that “choice”.

    Only God knows if a future President was killed. Or if the doctor who would have cured cancer, or autism was killed. Or if the next Einstein was killed.

    So, Biden, by saying that life begins at conception, what will you tell God on Judgement Day when He asks you why you still support killing babies?

  41. #41
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:16 am, DaveC said:

    Wow.. this is the first time I’ve heard from Joe in a LONG time..

    I’ve wondered where he’s been..

    now back to a week of obscurity for him.

    There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.
    Oscar Wilde

    Keep up the good work, Joe..

  42. #42
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:18 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    AHHHHH, the cycle is complete. Someone did the “religious zealots” line and the “clump of cells” line in a single post.

  43. #43
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:19 am, Flyover State said:

    I was thinking about this after reading all the foaming-mad left bloggers attacking her on her pro-life stance like she believed in some kind of voodoo… isn’t their gripe really with science, not religion? In fact, aren’t they the ones who essentially believe in some kind of voodoo? Because you certainly can’t justify it with science.

    If you did nothing, a child would be born nine months later. If you have an abortion, it won’t.

    To say it’s not really a baby inside the womb involves such strangulated logic that only someone desperate to buy into it could follow it.

    To me it’s the same difference as saying it’s okay to kill a 3-year-old because she’s not an adult yet. If your actions prevent life from continuing, it’s murder. This is not some wacky culty religious notion, it’s a fact.

  44. #44
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:19 am, ajmontana said:

    Just what does Odopeys pay grade have to be before he has a stance on anything or a vote other than “Present”?
    Are we talling A-Rod type bucks?
    Isn’t he being paid enough for being acting like a Senator?
    This guy is beyond pathetic.
    Shisters both, Biden and Obama.

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′
    Image: Obama camp in flames even smokey the bear can’t put out.
    Smokey: only you can prevent Obama fire’s. 8)

  45. #45
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:20 am, DesertLover said:

    dan708 and bansharia …

    The blacks voting democrat is the one that is most difficult to understand …

    1. It was the Democrats that were against segregation and civil rights for the blacks … especially in the south …

    2. It was the Republicans in the Congress that passed the civil rights acts and then held a Democrat (LBJ) President’s feet to the fire to force him to sign it into law …

    3. Martin Luther King was a REPUBLICAN … not a Democrat … so you would think that they would have followed his lead in that regard …

    Hard to fathom some of these things …

  46. #46
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:20 am, englishqueen01 said:

    And, EQ, you’re acting pretty hypocritical. Many times in the past you’ve stated that IUDs shouldn’t be outlawed. IUDs are a post-conception birth control device.

    So you have plenty of “murders” on your own conscience.

    The intent is different Rusty, and I’ve said that in the past, so you’re dishonestly restating my position.

    We don’t always know if an IUD or the pill causes an abortion. But we do know abortion ends a life.

    And, for the record – if that’s the way you want it, fine. Let’s outlaw the pill and IUDs. I’d be all for it. It’d help people keep it in their pants, wouldn’t it?

    Happy now?

    By the way – check your science books. Pretty much all (read: ALL) of them acknowledge that a human life begins when sperm and egg meet.

    Joe Biden is no more a Catholic than Osama bin Laden…so his “religious” viewpoints don’t matter. He wouldn’t know what the Church taught if it bit him in the armpit.

  47. #47
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:20 am, tre said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:13 am, On-my-soap-box said:A troll basher. You put your quarter in the machine, grap the hammer and when their heads pop up, you smash them. Sometimes, you just have to put another quarter in!

    Soap, do you know the difference between a troll and a computer?

    You only need to punch information in the computer once!

  48. #48
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:21 am, bansharia said:

    Tre,
    well said it is PRO ABORT
    am snickering that the latest infighting is that bidet will be out by weekend and hillary will come to rescue
    perpetual whiners and fantasy fools
    dem slacks and media hacks.

    GOSPEED TRACK

  49. #49
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:22 am, guitarplayer said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:12 am, Rusty said:

    His statement is a religious belief, not a scientific one. And it’s not his job as a legislator to enforce his religious beliefs among a populace that does not share his religious views.

    Then the question becomes if believes that it is human life, then why as a legislator did he not want to grant constitutional protections to it?

  50. #50
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:22 am, bansharia said:

    crap make that GODSPEED
    DOINK

  51. #51
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:23 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    tre,

    …and the computer accepts it.

  52. #52
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:25 am, Roland said:

    Believe it or not, this ‘someone’ is a hardcore property and gun rights supporting Republican who is horrified at the infanticide running rampant in our society just because we’re too demented as a population to recognize the obvious difference between a clump of cells and a baby.

    Most Americans think like I do on this subject, but no one says anything because when they do the nuts from one extreme or the other generally go apoplectic.

    We become human gradually. That fact makes you guys go crazy.

  53. #53
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:25 am, jangar said:

    The blacks voting democrat is the one that is most difficult to understand …

    But it was Democrats that brought us welfare. What do you think becomes more important?

  54. #54
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:26 am, conservativesRus said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:12 am, Rusty said:

    His statement is a religious belief, not a scientific one.

    I think most biologists would disagree with you on that. Scientifically, life begins at conception.

    Of course, I guess it depends on what the meaning of is is.

  55. #55
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:27 am, Artbyruth said:

    Joe Biden only said that to appeal to those undecided voters out there. He wants them to feel better about choosing Obama.

    These Liberals like Obama/Biden cannot say what they truly believe because then they will NEVER get elected. So they say what they think America wants to hear: “John McCain said life begins at conception and got rave reviews from voters and his ratings went up, so why not say the same thing??”

    It is sad to see Obama/Biden move closer to the Right instead of more toward the Left….but they have to in order to get elected. But make no mistake, these guys are Liberals through and through and will bring those Liberal views into the White House and Capitol as soon as they take office.

    And that political view about abortion they really believe in??

    Abortion on demand.

  56. #56
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:28 am, ajmontana said:

    VP, He was against it before he was for it. :shock:
    “I stand by my comment”
    Bidet speaking of Odopey regarding his inexperience.
    More pearls to come I’m sure.

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′
    Image: The two of them look like a live trout on land. 8)

  57. #57
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:28 am, Paul Revere said:

    Where is Nancy Pelosi these days? I know Bambi told her to STHU, but you’d think she’d come out of hiding by now. Maybe she’s waiting for the newest scars to heal? As for Scranton boy, he’s just a walking reason not to trust anything a democrat tells you.

  58. #58
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:29 am, bansharia said:

    Player,
    at Pastor Rick’s forum ( not debate ) obambi seperated morals from ethics as well. bidet is trying to slice reality this same way as did san fran nan and clinton ad nuaseum. is it a lawyer thing? or they all sure have a bigass D after their names.

    GODSPEED TRACK

  59. #59
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:30 am, conservativesRus said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:19 am, ajmontana said:

    Just what does Odopeys pay grade have to be before he has a stance on anything or a vote other than “Present”?

    Speaking of “pay grade” – who pays “community organizers”. Who do they report to? What are the criteria for “success” or “failure” in the position?

    (I know some of those are rhetorical.)

  60. #60
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:30 am, DesertLover said:

    I will share a comment I recently made to a pro-abortion advocate that was going ballistic with the “clump of cells” vs. “life” argument …

    When confronted I simply asked the pro-abortion advocate, “If it is not a life then why must you kill it?” …

    It got pretty quiet after that … I think some brain cells shorted out from overheating in an attempt to answer the question …

    Simply stated food for thought …

  61. #61
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:32 am, bansharia said:

    Jang,
    well seems to me self respect and honesty is but I aint a dem and any I ever voted for weren’t of this ilk.

    GODSPEED TRACK

  62. #62
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:35 am, bansharia said:

    Art,
    sad?
    they should move more to the left?
    your tinfoil a wee bit too tight?

  63. #63
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:35 am, ajmontana said:

    Harry “tommy” Reid, Pelosi, al, jesse, rev. wright, ayers, revlon all negative images the Dems do not want in the public eye. All the stains are in hiding. :shock:

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′
    Image: Don’t lift up the rug.

  64. #64
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:35 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:25 am, Roland said:

    Most Americans think like I do on this subject, but no one says anything because when they do the nuts from one extreme or the other generally go apoplectic.

    Most Germans thought Hitler was right. The greater percentage of Americans used to believe slavery was right to. Higher percentage does not always mean right – case in point. If the greater percentages of people call a baby a “clump of cells” that automatically makes it right?

    We become human gradually.

    And what we do to LIFE makes us monsters overnight.

    That fact makes you guys go crazy.

    I am crazy but, it has NOTHING to do with subject.

    Can atheists be pro-life and believe it is a baby and not a clump of cells or would that make them “religious zealots” as well?

    You can call it a “clump of cells” but you are wrong and I am sad for you. Do worry though, I am crazy.

  65. #65
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:35 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    dl said:
    When confronted I simply asked the pro-abortion advocate, “If it is not a life then why must you kill it?” …

    …and if it isn’t life then how can kill abort) that which does not live?

  66. #66
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:37 am, conservativesRus said:

    Can I be crazy too?

  67. #67
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:38 am, Bob in Myrtle Beach said:

    You’ve had it rough Joe B.

    All the years in politics, all the experience you bring to the ticket..being upstaged and overwhelmed by a nobody from nowhere & (I know you gotta be screaming this out loud privately) BY A HOCKEY MOM!

    Gee Joe…they’re chanting her name at rallies…how many folk’s chant “Joe-Joe-Joe” at your whistle-stops?

    And you as a Catholic, it’s gotta be tough carrying the flag for the belief of murdering life you know begins at conception?

    Yeah…it’s tough supporting a cause you don’t morally and spritually endorse.

    I guess it’s just politics. And with all you’re experience, you know you go along, to get along.

    Sit down pal and take a break, you need it.

  68. #68
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:39 am, bansharia said:

    Aj,
    mwahaha MY MUSLIM FAITH, I dont care what allapundit says obambi said what he said and to think all the pearls were Sunday b4 at least us bitter Bible thumpers and gun clingers saw them ;)
    p.s. remind me next time George asks for suggestions on questions we should suggest that he NOT correct the idiot dem he is interviewing!

  69. #69
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:42 am, K2 said:

    Biden says, “I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.”

    Where is the outrage? He could be One Heart-beat away from the Presidency!

  70. #70
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:42 am, bansharia said:

    Bob, dont be hasty lets keep Joe talking.

  71. #71
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:44 am, jlhudg23 said:

    Democrats: They don’t want all those “dirty Africans” to have access to DDT, thus leaving them vulnerable to a disease that makes AIDS look like pimple on the ass–malaria, which routinely kills millions world-wide annually, particularly in Afica. But, our “friends across the aisle” DO want all those “poor African Americans” to have access to abortion–apparently this is the new front in their “War on Poverty”.

  72. #72
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:44 am, bansharia said:

    is gwen aweful doing the Hottie vs the Snotty debate?

  73. #73
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:44 am, englishqueen01 said:

    By the way, this is what a presumably pro-abortion Obama supporter had to say about Sarah Palin’s choice to have five children, including a disabled child

    This abortion prohibitionist hag won’t cut it among women with brains.And BTW she is a good example of reproduction run amok. 5 kids; 1 retard. I wonder if the bitch ever heard of getting spayed.

    Source.

    So how am I supposed to believe people like this, if given power, won’t decide I can’t have children?

    By the way, Rusty, there’s a vast difference between not thinking something should be outlawed but advocating against it (which I have always done against birth control – it’s harmful to women and the environment), and openly supporting and advocating something that’s intrinsically evil – which abortion is.

    I am no more responsible for murders than an unborn child is guilty of any crime.

  74. #74
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am, bansharia said:

    JL what the heck was that about?
    MM/fellas might want to consider a cleanup in aisle 68

  75. #75
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:49 am, ajmontana said:

    I wish he wouldn’t have interupted also, it would have been interesting to see where Odopey the Muslim was actually going to go with it, let him dig his hole then call him on it.

  76. #76
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:51 am, ajmontana said:

    OT-
    Meanwhile, another OJ farce of a trial is about to happen in Las Vegas. :roll:

  77. #77
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:53 am, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 8:26 am, tarpon said:

    No one can lie 100% accurately, 100% of the time, it’s just not humanly possible.

    Obama’s only been to 57 states so far… give him time.

  78. #78
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:55 am, DesertLover said:

    bansharia …

    FYI on DDT …

    The environmentalists used a massive campaign of disinformation and falsehoods many years ago (late 1960s)that resulted in the banning through the EPA and the UN of the use of DDT (Dichloro-Diphenyl-Trichloroethane) (in 1972) …

    It is an insecticide that is truly the only way to eradicate massive mosquito populations … the fact they can’t use it is why they can’t get rid of the mosquitoes that are cause malaria and other deaths in Africa … it was DDT that enabled us to eventually fight the malaria problem back in order to build the Panama Canal …

  79. #79
    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:58 am, polkabout said:

    I wonder how many of the ones voicing their anti-abortion opinions use birth control pills. The majority of birth control pills also abort after conception. I’m not in favor of abortions and I see a lot of “Do as I say, not as I do”.

  80. #80
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:01 am, bansharia said:

    Desert,
    very aware of all that, the post was rather loony don’t youi think?

  81. #81
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:02 am, TxSkirt said:

    Since Obama “distanced” himself from the Rev. Wright and his church, who is Obama’s spiritual mentor now? Where is he going to church now? Just asking.

  82. #82
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:03 am, sausage said:

    His statement is a religious belief, not a scientific one. And it’s not his job as a legislator to enforce his religious beliefs among a populace that does not share his religious views.

    Exactly Rusty. Although I am anti-abortion, it’s important to keep the separation of church and state. Just look what happened when creationist evangelists gained power – the country went down the plug hole.

    is he also prepared to accept his culpability in perpetuating the mass destruction of millions of those unborn lives

    Bush makes no comment on the effects of the Iraq war.

  83. #83
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:05 am, bansharia said:

    PK,
    the quote I had heard was he went on to say that he hadn’t even been to Hawaii and Alaska yet!! belly hurts from laughing ;) 57 more days? lawdyy

  84. #84
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:05 am, jangar said:

    …and the UN was more than happy to ban DDT so that malaria might eradicate massive poor black populations.

    Meanwhile, it is Republican administrations that lead mosquito netting crusades to save people in Africa, no matter their skin color.

  85. #85
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:06 am, ajmontana said:

    Snausage, go back under your rock and take your BDS with you.

  86. #86
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:06 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Abortion isn’t about “choice”, it’s about “convenience”.

    Life begins when a person’s unique DNA is established…at conception. Standing on that truth is not “Anti-choice”, it is “Pro-Life”. The biological mother still has “choice”… she has the choice of whether she wants to raise her child or put her child up for adoption so that other loving parents can raise the child.

    Abortion isn’t about “choice”, it’s about “convenience”. It is the option chosen by (or forced upon) biological mothers who don’t want to go through the inconvenience of carrying that child to term.

    It is a poverty to decide that a child must die
    so that you may live as you wish.

    – Mother Teresa

  87. #87
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:07 am, navywife91 said:

    is he also prepared to accept his culpability in perpetuating the mass destruction of millions of those unborn lives

    Bush makes no comment on the effects of the Iraq war.

    You can’t seriously think that makes any sense.

  88. #88
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:08 am, bansharia said:

    TX,
    oh gosh I can’t recall where I read this but the new rev wrong at trinity was out in Denver at that unity thing they held hm prob over at Robert’s site
    as he discussed the Muslim Brotherhood jerk that was there as well. At this point if obambi says someting just hear the inverse……pitiful.

  89. #89
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:11 am, bansharia said:

    jang,
    GOP admins or Christians? cmon give us bitter Bible thumpers some respect ;)

  90. #90
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:11 am, FamilyMan said:

    In the long run our constitution will be challenged to determinded when life begins and death begins. The only sustainable, non arbitrary time life begins is the moment of conception.

  91. #91
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:16 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:03 am, sausage said:
    Exactly Rusty. …it’s important to keep the separation of church and state.

    What does scientific evidence have to do with something that is NOT in the Constitution, “the separation of church and state”? That was just stupid.

    Just look what happened when creationist evangelists gained power – the country went down the plug hole.

    Hey, euro-wennie, this country was founded by Christian men. All but one was a Christian and those people – Christian – brought us that document that you misquote; The Constitution. Of course, your knowledge of American history would be lacking. Really, the only thing you need to remember is, you are not speaking German thanks to Americans.

  92. #92
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:16 am, ThatSamIAm said:

    The whole “when does life begin?” question is stupid. Of course life begins at conception.

    That baby or fetus if it makes you feel better is alive when it is conceived. It certainly is not DEAD when it is conceived. It does not jump to life once it hits a certain number of days. It doesn’t spring into life once it leaves the woman’s body. It is alive during the whole process and no amount of science can argue that.

  93. #93
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:16 am, Christian Soldier said:

    Joe’s a Roman Catholic who believes life begins at conception …but….
    here is a list of his votes:

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/biden-says-life-begins-at-conception.html#comments

    The gentleman doth protest too much…

  94. #94
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:18 am, bansharia said:

    Fam,
    do you think so?
    I live and breath Praying/thinking those who hate America won’t ever get
    that far. may you be wrong my friend ;)
    McCain/Palin 2008

    Godspeed Track!!

  95. #95
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:19 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.

    How long has Joe Biden been a Catholic?

    Why is it that only now, when he wants to win an election, he is finally “prepared” to accept that life begins at the moment of conception?

    He didn’t even state that life begins at the moment of conception, only that he is “prepared” to accept that “as a matter of faith”.

    It’s not just a matter a faith. It’s a matter of science. Every cell in your body contains your unique genetic blueprint…your DNA. Your life began when your DNA began…when your first cell began…at conception.

    Biden is so clearly pandering to the pro-life crowd. And he does it with typical Democratic Socialist “nuance”. He doesn’t stand up and say “life begins at the moment of conception”…he only says he is “prepared… to accept that”.

    So, Joe, now that you’ve been prepared, have you actually accepted that?

    Have you, Joe Biden, accepted that life begins at the moment of conception?

    No, I thought not.

    You only said that to pander for political gain. And you mock the deaths of over 40 million innocent babies when you do so.

    Despicable.

  96. #96
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:20 am, TexasEngineer said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 9:12 am, Rusty said:
    His statement is a religious belief, not a scientific one. And it’s not his job as a legislator to enforce his religious beliefs among a populace that does not share his religious views.

    And, EQ, you’re acting pretty hypocritical. Many times in the past you’ve stated that IUDs shouldn’t be outlawed. IUDs are a post-conception birth control device.

    Rusty…if memory serves, the way an IUD functions is to prevent the implantation of a zygote in the uterine wall. A zygote does not become a fetus until it has been implanted in the uterine wall and begins to draw sustenance from the mother…at least according to the biolgy texts used when I was in college back in the Dark Ages…when dinosaurs still roamed the High Plains of West Texas.

  97. #97
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:21 am, TxSkirt said:

    bansharia–I guess Obama doesn’t need spiritual guidance seeing as he is The One. It’s always pitiful when someone starts to believe their own press. Still, where will he take this photo-op on Easter and Christmas? Michelle has go to have some place to show off her “subdued elegance.”

  98. #98
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:22 am, bansharia said:

    hey hey hey how about them polls???
    ( in fat albert voice altho am not fat,a man or black )
    +10 in LIKELY voters meowwwwwwwwwww
    psst aj you have mail

  99. #99
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:23 am, navywife91 said:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction/

    OT (I’m doing that a lot today)
    I saw this guy on Fox this morning. The list in informative and funny too.

  100. #100
    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:27 am, jangar said:

    On September 8th, 2008 at 10:11 am, bansharia said:
    jang,
    GOP admins or Christians? cmon give us bitter Bible thumpers some respect

    Thumpers, yes, but I also remember that Laura Bush may have supported this also.

    Bottom line is, and I’ve thought this for years, DDT was banned and the excuse was the eggs of some bird, but that was a scapegoat for the real mission to eradicate the poor, who are the troublesome of the African population that the leaders don’t want to deal with. JMO

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