Seven years later: Remembrance and resolve

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 11, 2008 03:13 AM

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Lan astaslem: Arabic for “I will not submit/surrender”

Remember: The 2,996 Project.

Remember: “Let’s roll!”

Remember: The angels on loan from God.

Remember: The 9/11 babies.

Remember: Falling Man.

Remembrance is worthless without resolve. Resolve is useless without action. Here is how “Never Forget” is practiced 24/7/365 by ordinary Americans taking extraordinary steps to ensure 9/11 doesn’t happen again:

Sgt. Desion Fulks watched the World Trade Center towers come down on television from Fort Rucker, Ala. He re-enlisted three weeks later.

Capt. Joseph Mason, a reservist at the time, immediately volunteered for combat duty after watching what happened in New York and Washington, D.C. He deployed to Iraq two years later with the first wave a troops.

“I was sitting at home, looking at the television, seeing the carnage of the Pentagon and the Trade towers, and I felt I had to do something,” he said.

Both men, and about 5,000 other soldiers with the 3rd Brigade Combat Team of the 1st Cavalry Division from Fort Hood, Texas begin training at Fort Irwin on Thursday, the seven-year anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and one other commercial jet. Many of the soldiers, who will deploy to Iraq at the end of December, said the images of Sept. 11, 2001 still flash through their minds.

“I will never forget what happened on 9/11,” said Sgt. 1st Class Mark Linares. “It’s been so long since 9/11, but it is still in my mind like it was yesterday.”

Linares, who was with the 82nd Airborne Division when the attacks occurred and knew he would be one of the first soldiers on the ground where ever they had to go. Some soldiers in the 82nd Airborne were in Afghanistan the next month. Capt. Jennifer Bowersox was part of a unit that went to Kuwait when the ground war in Iraq began in 2003. She said then soldiers talked about Sept. 11 as their reason, and they still talk about it today.

“It must be on every soldier’s mind. It’s certainly on mine,” she said. “You’re wearing the American flag on your sleeve. You’re thinking this happened in my nation, and we can never allow it to happen in the United States again.”

And here’s how NY National Guardsmen who served as first responders at Ground Zero are putting “Never Again” into action:

New York Guardsmen in Afghanistan to Commemorate Terror Attack Anniversary
By Army Lt. Col. Paul Fanning
Special to American Forces Press Service

CAMP PHOENIX, Afghanistan, Sept. 10, 2008 – Men and women of the New York Army National Guard who served at Ground Zero are commemorating the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, in Afghanistan this year.

A ceremony is planned tomorrow at this base in the Afghan capital of Kabul, and it will be timed to coincide with the first plane strike at the World Trade Center at 8:46 a.m. EDT.

More than 1,700 members of New York’s 27th Infantry Brigade Combat Team are serving here with Combined Joint Task Force Phoenix, part of Combined Security Transition Command Afghanistan. Its mission is to mentor and train the Afghan National Army and police, and provide assistance to the government of Afghanistan and its people.

The task force is led by Army Col. Brian K. Balfe, who is also commander of the 27th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, which took over command and control responsibility April 26.

The task force is composed of nearly 9,500 servicemen and women from all U.S. branches, coalition partners and civilian professionals serving at nearly 260 forward operating bases throughout Afghanistan.

“The New York National Guard is the only part of America’s military team that has literally gone from Ground Zero to the Sunni Triangle [in Iraq] and is now here amid the mountains of Afghanistan,” Balfe said. “Soldiers from this brigade were among the very first to respond to the attacks and served at the World Trade Center on 9/11 and for weeks later.

“At least a third of the team that came from New York has also already served in Iraq,” he continued. “For those of us who were there, [who] served at Ground Zero, 9/11 is deeply personal.”

When the World Trade Center collapsed, hundreds of New York National Guard personnel were on the ground. By evening, 1,500 were there and thousands more were poised at more than 63 armories and five air bases around the state.

For the first 40 hours, Guard personnel were on the debris pile, conducting search-and-rescue missions alongside fire department, rescue, police and other emergency personnel. The New York Guard’s Civil Support Team for Weapons of Mass Destruction was the first unit of its kind to respond to a terrorist attack and was quickly mobilized.

On the second day, the civilian incident commander — the New York City fire chief — directed the Guard to establish a security perimeter and then sweep the pile to clear all personnel to better organize the search-and-recovery effort.

In the weeks stretching into months that followed, New York National Guard personnel performed a myriad of homeland defense missions in state active duty, federal duty under state control, or Title 10 active duty.

At the mission’s peak, when recovery and security operations were running concurrently, more than 5,000 New York troops were on duty in New York City; at 19 commercial airports; at bridges, tunnels and train stations; at nuclear power plants; and at military installations.

Not since World War II had the New York National Guard been deployed in such numbers for such extended time participating in both state homeland defense missions and federal military operations.

(Army Lt. Col. Paul Fanning serves in the Combined Joint Task Force Phoenix Public Affairs Office.)

While our men and women in uniform fight on the front lines, we can resolve:

To fight jihadi propagandists in our neighborhoods, schools, and on the airwaves.

To be vigilant John Does — willing to report suspicious behavior and illicit activities, even if it means CAIR lawsuits and smears.

To continue demanding homeland security, real borders, and immigration enforcement — whichever party is in power.

And to actively reject 9/10 thinking and 9/10 politicians and 9/10 apathy after the memorial candles are blown out.

What will you resolve today?

***

The Pentagon 9/11 Memorial will be dedicated and open to the public tonight.

John McCain and Barack Obama have agreed to a truce:

John McCain and Barack Obama were to observe a truce Thursday in their increasingly bitter White House contest with a joint appearance at Ground Zero on the seventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Their visit to the site of the former World Trade Center in Manhattan promised a rare break from hostilities in the frenzied last two months of the presidential race.

“There will be no speeches,” Democrat Obama’s spokeswoman Linda Douglass said. “This is going to be a moment when politics are set aside.”

Both Obama and his Republican rival McCain were to suspend campaign advertising for the day.

Heavy security was in place well ahead, with streets near Ground Zero closed and buses re-routed before ceremonies starting at 8:40 am.

Two separate minutes of silence were to mark the moments when the two hijacked airliners struck on September 11, 2001, destroying each of the Twin Towers and killing some 3,000 people — at 8:46 am and at 9:03 am.

Ceremonies included additional minutes of silence commemorating the collapse of each tower, as well as the traditional reading out of all victims’ names.

McCain and Obama — expected by staff to be arriving later in the day, after the official ceremonies — have promised to bury the hatchet in honor of the anniversary.

Along with remembrance and resolve, there must be recognition. Recognition of our enemies, where they live, and how they are enabling endless jihad against us. Here’s a beginning road map (via Allahpundit):

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Bloggers remember…

Lorie Byrd
The Anchoress
Op-For
Abe Greenwald at Commentary
Andy McCarthy
Allahpundit
Blackfive
Urban Infidel reports from Ground Zero.
Jawa Report
LGF
Lawhawk

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  1. #201
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM, Its 2008 not 1708. :roll:

  2. #202
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:28 pm, emjem24 said:

    navywife91 said:

    I really appreciate your story. My husband has served in the military for approx. 16 years and I’ve been married to him for 8 years. We have no children yet, though in a few months we’re going to start trying, since right now I don’t have a full-time job to distract me so much. :grin:

    I’ve been to similar ceremonies, but I have never seen a purple heart awarded. That must have been amazing to see! I usually have gone to luncheons and military dinners/balls that were more formal. You’ll probably think this corny of me, but I feel so reassured and safe around military people. I don’t feel like I do when I’m with my own family or some of my in-laws who have no clue what military people go through or do.

    Like you, I’ve become a political junkie. My husband is politically moderate and so he tries to stay out of it. Some of his unit members discuss politics and there are some token liberal goofballs (federal civilians) who really bring it home the kind of BDS that exists right now.

    It is easy to take things for granted as a military spouse. I’ve tried not to just because I’m reminded by the civilian population on occasion, wherever we’ve PCS’d to, that the military isn’t appreciated, that military families are intruders, and thanks but no thanks, military spouses, we don’t want to employ you.

    Being around military members reminds me that there are sane people. There are many, many people who support the military… it’s the people who don’t appreciate the military and their families that is the most worrisome.

    18 years huh? I bet you have some stories. ;-)

  3. #203
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    lgm…. Savonarola was executed 4 years after he started his fascist actions…. and who was his main opponent? none other than the Pope…. read the whole article and use something other than Wikipedia…. you liberals bore me.The renaissance was, in fact, sponsored by the Catholic Church and Savonarola was a tool who ruled Florence only a short time….. you are so easy to fight and win against…. (sarc on)… just keep doing what you do ( sarc off)

  4. #204
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, atheling said:

    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, lgm said:
    Conservative Christians opposed the renaissance. Savonarola destroyed much art and literature of the renaissance in Florence.

    Kapo lgm:

    Savonarola was excommunicated, you lying sack of s***.

    How you can call him a “conservative” Christian is beyond me - although you display an astonishing ignorance of history and context, as well as anachronistic idiocy. However, knowing your penchance for obfuscation and pure stupidity, it’s no great wonder that you pollute this thread with your lies.

  5. #205
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, FilmLadd said:

    atheling said:

    However, he had the support of the Roman people.

    True enough.

    The biggest mistake GWB made after 9/11 was to fail to capitalize on broad patriotic sentiments to garner a true Declaration of War from Congress. This would have freed him to put the U.S. on a war footing.

    Instead he opted for the easy way - Authorization of Use of Force, a la Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which results in a military at war, and a civilian population at peace.

    No war is ever won with only its military in the fight (Vietnam, Korea). He told everyone to go shop so “the terrorists won’t win.”

    Shopping doesn’t defeat Mohamedanism. Just ask Spain. Constantinople. Etc.

    The reason I hammer on this is that we MUST learn from this mistake. When the next 9/11 occurs we must be prepared to wage true war, a war of existential survival.

    Because that is the kind of war that has already been declared upon us.

  6. #206
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    I want to comment more later, after I’ve had time to read and watch everything.

    I heard about Mayor Bloomberg’s desire to have the WTC 9/11 Memorial done by the 10th anniversary. My opinion: sounds somewhat politically motivated (I was able to get the memorial completed for everyone by such-and-such a time). Don’t rush it. Make sure it is done right. If it takes more than 10 years, it takes more than 10 years. The victims deserve a proper tribute, not a rushed one. Giving or taking a few years should not be a big deal. Let it be done right.

  7. #207
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, ArmywifeArmymom said:

    I was in DC on the 11th. It was a life changing experience to see the effects of terrorist up close and personal like that.

    I will never know how much the events of that week played into my son’s decision to join the Army and fight in the War on Terror. I know that there are a lot reasons he and my husband serve.

    Supporting them is easy. Not only do I love them both with all that I am, but I am grateful, as a witness to terrorism, for all that they do everyday to try and stop it at all costs. Everyday our troops gear themselves up, stand up to the enemy at hand and bravely say “Let’s Roll!”

  8. #208
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:52 pm, navywife91 said:

    emjem,
    Seeing a purple heart being presented was a very moving sight. I tried to hold my tears back as well as I could, but I get teary-eyed just listening to the Star Spangled Banner! I think I almost cried 4 times during the whole luncheon. I understand what you mean by feeling safe and secure because I feel the same way. The Navy League put this on and there were many retirees, some of whom sat at the table with us. One of them asked our Commordore, “So, you’re not allowed to talk politics while you’re in uniform, huh?” and he said, “that’s correct sir.” I butt in and said, “well I sure can!” He had been talking about Sarah Palin and the McCain visit coming on Monday, so I knew it was friendly territory. They all got a chuckle out of that.

    I’m currently substituting, so nothing permanent either. It’s hard to convince people to hire you, especially as a teacher, when you can’t commit.

    And, yes, I do have lots of stories!

  9. #209
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, navywife91 said:

    Supporting them is easy. Not only do I love them both with all that I am, but I am grateful, as a witness to terrorism, for all that they do everyday to try and stop it at all costs. Everyday our troops gear themselves up, stand up to the enemy at hand and bravely say “Let’s Roll!”

    I am also grateful for their service and for yours. Thank you!

  10. #210
    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, bfly1133 said:

    Mookie, thank you for sharing that beautiful story. We don’t agree on many things, but I do believe that we both want what’s best for America. We just disagree on how to achieve it. :)

  11. #211
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Armywifearmymom and navywife

    Thank you for YOUR sacrifice in giving up your loved ones while they serve or have served…. I never got the chance to thank my Mom and Dad for what they did when I left for combat… we forget sometimes what happens in the home….. thank you again!

  12. #212
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    lgm said:

    The Christian Renaissance was the best thing that ever happened to Jews.
    “Ghetto” is an Italian word for the walled in place Jews were forced to live in, long after the renaissance.

    Conservative Christians opposed the renaissance. Savonarola destroyed much art and literature of the renaissance in Florence.

    You’ve shown me the depth of your hatred and it’s genuine. The days of Host desecration and Blood libel are long over and in modern times we do face a tense situation in many respects.

    I am half Polish; the Polish have been more accepting and tolerant of Jews than any other country in the history of Western and Eastern Europe. If the work of Pope John Paul means nothing to you; a man who worked tirelessly to heal the divide between Jews and Christians then you are truly lost.

    Join us.

  13. #213
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:15 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Michelle:

    The link to LGFs tribute is actually linking to the Jawa Report. Just an FYI.

    If the work of Pope John Paul means nothing to you; a man who worked tirelessly to heal the divide between Jews and Christians then you are truly lost.

    Or St. Maximilian Kolbe. This Catholic, a Polish Conventual Franciscan friar, gave his life for a Jewish man in Auschwitz:

    During the Second World War he provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland, including 2,000 Jews whom he hid from Nazi persecution in his friary in Niepokalanów. He was also active as a radio amateur, with Polish call letters SP3RN, vilifying Nazi activities through his reports.

    On February 17, 1941 he was arrested by the German Gestapo and imprisoned in the Pawiak prison, and on May 25 was transferred to Auschwitz as prisoner #16670.

    In July 1941 a man from Kolbe’s barracks vanished, prompting SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, the deputy camp commander, to pick 10 men from the same barracks to be starved to death in Block 13 (notorious for torture), in order to deter further escape attempts.[citation needed] (The man who had disappeared was later found drowned in the camp latrine). One of the selected men, Franciszek Gajowniczek, cried out, lamenting his family, and Kolbe volunteered to take his place.

    During the time in the cell he led the men in songs and prayer. After three weeks of dehydration and starvation, only Kolbe and three others were still alive. Father Maximilian’s death was heroic. He did not whine, nor murmur. He encouraged others that they would soon be with Mary in heaven. And each time the guards checked on him he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell and looking calmly at those who entered, while the others laid moaning and complaining, on the ground around him. Finally he was murdered with an injection of carbolic acid.[6] Some who were present at the injection say that he raised his left arm and calmly waited for the injection. He died soon after. His remains were cremated on the Assumption of Mary.

    When Kolbe was canonized in in 1982, Franciszek Gajowniczek and his family (including his grandchildren) were there.

    Or go to Normandy. Look at all the crosses. Those are all Christians who fought to end evil and free the Jews.

    This isn’t a winning argument. Until a cadre of Bible-weilding Evangelicals drop the Sears Tower, stop trying to equate what happened on 9/11 with anything else: Islam is to blame.

  14. #214
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:16 pm, Tantor said:

    What is most galling about the Sep 11 attack is the country that was most responsible for it, Saudi Arabia, remains untouched and a sanctuary for our Wahhabi enemies. This war won’t be over until there is no Saudi Arabia.

  15. #215
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, navywife91 said:

    MNUSMCDavid

    You are very welcome!

    I’d like to thank you and everyone else on the blog who serves, has served or has family members who serve. I know many times it is a thankless job, but you all know you serve a cause greater than yourself and that is truly something to be proud of.

  16. #216
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, Mookie said:

    On September 11th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, bfly1133 said:

    Mookie, thank you for sharing that beautiful story. We don’t agree on many things, but I do believe that we both want what’s best for America. We just disagree on how to achieve it.

    Thanks bfly1133. I became a lot more conservative on 9/11. Still have a little liberal left in me but not as much. I was so grateful that W was our President when it happened. Remember when he climbed on the pile at the WTC with the megaphone in his hand? He understood that in the midst of all the profound sadness and grief and fear, there was a need for revenge. We needed to hear that the SOBs who did it would pay. And that day, he gave us exactly what we needed. He was calm and resolute at the memorial mass that morning and an asskicker that evening at WTC. Just awesome.

  17. #217
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, navywife91 said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

    If you haven’t already see this, please check it out. An Iraq vet ad for McCain. Even if you’re not voting for him, watch it. For those of you like me who are sensitive, get the tissue ready.

  18. #218
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:51 pm, lgm said:

    atheling said (#204)

    Savonarola was excommunicated … (very clever insult omitted)

    From Wikipedia about the guy who executed Savonarola:

    Pope Alexander VI[1] (1 January 1431 – 18 August 1503), born Roderic Llançol, later Roderic de Borja i Borja (Italian: Borgia) was Pope from 1492 to 1503. He is the most controversial of the secular popes of the Renaissance, and his surname (Italianized as Borgia) became a byword for the debased standards of the papacy of that era.

    How you can call (Savonarola) a “conservative” Christian is beyond me

    Did you read the link? He opposed the renaissance because it conflicted with traditional Christian values. He was a priest. He destroyed secular art.

    I admit this was long ago, but you (or someone) did say “since the renaissance”.

  19. #219
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Did you read the link? He opposed the renaissance because it conflicted with traditional Christian values. He was a priest. He destroyed secular art.

    I admit this was long ago, but you (or someone) did say “since the renaissance”.

    Dude, you’re a brainless turd.

  20. #220
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:58 pm, bfly1133 said:

    Boy do I remember Mookie! I still get chills thinking about his show of strength and the power in his voice. He meant every word he said. President Bush was definitely the right man for the job. Say what you will about the President (and there are a lot of negatives), I give him so much credit and admiration for fighting this fight even though everyone else thinks he’s wrong to do it. That to me is a true leader. He truly has done a lot to keep us safe.

  21. #221
    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:58 pm, Maura said:

    @EnglishQueen01 - 7:45 AM

    Thank you for finding these words….what an eloquent post!

    I’m on my way out the door, so can’t stay to read the next 250+ post just now.

    My life also was forever changed that day.
    Never Forget.
    LAN ASTASLEM

  22. #222
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pm, RetFireman said:

    I have been very reluctant about coming on-line today…especially in visiting any blog that contains Liberal commenters. You see, while at first the Thruther thing was somewhat amusing based on the fact that I just could not understand how anyone, especially in this country, could possibly be so incredibly dense, so incredibly selfish and so incredibly unfeeling and uncaring as to believe in any of their lies and their misdirection.

    I just could not believe how there could be that many people who could possibly be so outspoken about their pure hatred towards their own country, and I could not believe there could be that many people who could be so easily swayed by others about something they witnessed as it was happening live right in front of them.

    Having lost people that day, having many, MANY friends who were there, who escaped by plain dumb luck, astute Guardian Angels or whatever, who dug in The Pile, searched surrounding buildings etc. looking for any slight glimmer of hope that they would find a survivor, and then that they would find someone to bury and help a family find closure, I could not believe anyone could do, think, say or feel the way Truthers do.

    As time has gone on, however, over the last seven years, I have lost any and all patience or tolerance for ANYONE who shows even the slightest bit of having anything to do with Truthers or their filth. Yes, I will even admit to having waves of violent thoughts course through me as I am hit with an adrenaline dump every time I am exposed to anyone like that.

    Thus, I have been reticent to visit here or anywhere else today, for I know that this is their Christmas, Halloween, New years and birthday all rolled into one. This is the day they slither out of their holes in order to strike anew at people’s hearts and memories, at the survivors and the families of those that did not. It is their recruitment day, when they flip the bird to real Americans and join forces with Islam and those that want to destroy us, our country, our government and everything that matters to us.

    I will, once again, be writing about my personal experience today as i do every year, but not here or on anyone’s blog that is infested with Truther cockroaches.

    My thoughts, today, are with those people who unknowingly gave their lives for all of us, those of us who really do know what it means to be an American. What it means to sacrifice and struggle for our fellow man. And it is especially with the families and friends of those who waited for their loved one…their father, mother, son, daughter, brother or sister, friend to come home…to call…anything…and never got that call, note, or door to open.

    It is they who feel this deeper than anyone could ever know. They who are meant to feel this for the rest of their lives. When so many people would like to forget this, would like to excuse the actions of the murderers, would like to just “Move On”, these people are not allowed to forget, not even for a moment, the rest of their lives.

    God bless them, God bless all of us, and Please…God…please bless these United States of America and all those that guard Her and make Her what she is.

  23. #223
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:08 pm, Hanover Fiste said:

    I remember where I was that morning, getting my weekly haircut, and more importantly where I was two days later.

    Never forget.

    God bless America and death to her enemies.

  24. #224
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:10 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Ret fireman

    thank you for those words and may God help you in your thoughts and spirit this day.

  25. #225
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:13 pm, RetFireman said:

    On September 11th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Goldwater Knight said: I am half Polish…

    I knew there was something I liked about you. Przyjaciel, Jak są wy

  26. #226
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:14 pm, cpodug said:

    Ret Fireman - you are one of the reasons why this country is as great as it is. I know the loss of a loved one, and I can honestly say that the pain and sense of loss never goes away, no matter how long it has been.

    Thank you for your post. It is most eloquent and appreciated, regardless of the usual crop of detestable excuses for human beings that seem to crawl out of the woodwork.

  27. #227
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    Thanks to all the defenders of freedom, and those that keep the home fires burning ever so bright.

    All of you are in my prayers…..

    GSP

  28. #228
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:27 pm, edelweiss said:

    On September 11th, 2008 at 10:00 am, conservativesRus said:

    lgm - I’d love to respond to your #119 - but I think the english language between us has two entirely different meanings.
    Christians were a threat to Jews? In what way?
    Please explain.

    conservativesRus: Did you fail your HIST 101 class? Christianity is by far the worst religion on the face of the earth; far worse than any other religion, including Islam. Over the past two millennia, Christian thugs have engaged in persistent, hateful antisemitism which has seen the killing and suffering of millions of innocent Jews in Europe and Middle East. Christian antisemitism can be traced back to the earliest days of Christianity.

  29. #229
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:27 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    Kapo lgm,
    Go home and bring back your America hating rhetoric tomorrow.

    GSP

  30. #230
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    edelweiss….. do you really want to stand by that patently fraudulent screed?

    Were you to use only 1% of what you call your brain…. you would easily discover that fascist, communist regimes have murdered more people than any false Christian dogma you think did. I’ll give you a head start…. Stalin’s millions murdered…..Hitler’s, Mohammed, Pol Pot…Mao…….

  31. #231
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:42 pm, emjem24 said:

    Edelweiss:

    What are you, the historical grievance queen? Didn’t the Jews sell out Jesus to the Romans? Christianity, Islam, and Judaism have persecuted innocents for different reasons. Each religion has its intolerance of those who aren’t like them.

    It would seem you’re defending Muslim extremists and the reason they kill “innocents.” Should we lie down and take it? Or fight back?

    Civilization is about survival and the ebb and flow of societies including their religions. Look at some of the Hindu and Islamic extremists in India battling it out right now. There are Hindus persecuting Christians for just “existing.”

    Please, get off your high horse.

  32. #232
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked?
    I don’t want to discount the possibility,” he said.

    Printed in the New York Times on September 11, 2001

  33. #233
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, RetFireman said:

    One day. The heartless bast**ds cannot even give it a rest for one single day. No conscience, no soul, completely and totaly heartless.

  34. #234
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, RetFireman said:

    Oh…I left out a-moral.

  35. #235
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, emjem24 said:

    MNUSMCDavid said #230:

    Good point.

    Edelweis, would you rather we live in China where there is only “state approved” churches? What is that? Where if you want to practice your own faith, the ChiComs will try to stamp you out?

    I think the worst part of what’s facing Europe (where I believe you live right now) is the spread of secularism, where morals, values, ethics no longer play a part in society. Does that not worry you?

    I’d rather live in the US where I can practice whatever faith I want rather than a place like North Korea where people are starving and the only thing those poor, struggling have right now to worship is their Dear Leader, Kim Jung Il.

  36. #236
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, K2 said:

    navywife91 - Thank you for posting the Iraq War Veteran video. It is great.

    I will post it everywhere I can….hope you don’t mind.

    I will never forget the events of 9-11 and the weeks following. And, I am very willing to help the terrorists die for their cause. Just can’t happen soon enough.

    As my brother and I say, we won life’s lottery the day we were born in the best country in the world - the USA!

  37. #237
    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, atheling said:

    On September 11th, 2008 at 4:27 pm, edelweiss said

    The Fraulein of Fraud once again butt dribbles her socialist indoctrination.

    Kill any babies today, idle vice?

    Your Fuhrer would be proud of you, and you can stand alongside Kapo lgm as the standard bearers of his eugenics ideology.

  38. #238
    On September 11th, 2008 at 5:02 pm, Mookie said:

    I know it’s a little late in the day (Well, at least on the East Coast) but if you’re so inclined, it would be a nice thing to drop off some coffee and donuts or some pizza or some sort of “goodie” at your local firehouse. We’ve been sending pizzas to ours every year. One of the guys said they’re able to eat for a week with all the things that make their way to the firehouses that day. A couple of year ago, they ended up with almost 30 dozen donuts. He said it was a little overwhelming but the outpouring makes a difficult day a little easier.

  39. #239
    On September 11th, 2008 at 5:04 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    conservativesRus: Did you fail your HIST 101 class? Christianity is by far the worst religion on the face of the earth; far worse than any other religion, including Islam. Over the past two millennia, Christian thugs have engaged in persistent, hateful antisemitism which has seen the killing and suffering of millions of innocent Jews in Europe and Middle East. Christian antisemitism can be traced back to the earliest days of Christianity.

    Sie sind einem massiven Scheißekopf.

  40. #240
    On September 11th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    edelweiss has no clue about the struggle between Christianity and Islam throughout the ages. I suppose you’d have to be a scholar to understand that and not a socialist liberal automaton. At the very least you could visit The Museum of Natural History instead of peeing your pants everyday.

  41. #241
    On September 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, RetFireman said:

    For about a month after the attacks, we had more cookies, cakes, pies, fresh vegetables from gardens, dishes of all sorts brought to us at the firehouse…we couldn’t possibly eat all of it between all three shifts. We had to send some home just so it wouldn’t go to waste. I swear, we all must have packed on about 10 pounds after that. The public outpouring was beyond amazing, and embarrassing as well. But a good type of embarrassing.

  42. #242
    On September 11th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    RetFireman said:

    For about a month after the attacks, we had more cookies, cakes, pies, fresh vegetables from gardens, dishes of all sorts brought to us at the firehouse…

    Raise a glass in remembrance of the 343.

  43. #243
    On September 11th, 2008 at 6:03 pm, navywife91 said:

    September 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, K2 said:
    navywife91 - Thank you for posting the Iraq War Veteran video. It is great.

    I will post it everywhere I can….hope you don’t mind.

    You are welcome and please pass it along!

    idle vice you’re a…oh never mind.

    Mookie
    That’s a wonderful idea, but a little late here, like you said. It’ll definitely be a plan next year. One of our local radio stations has been thanking everyone from first responders, military, state troopers, etc. and I think it is great.

  44. #244
    On September 11th, 2008 at 6:19 pm, FilmLadd said:

    edelweiss said:

    Did you fail your HIST 101 class? Christianity is by far the worst religion on the face of the earth; far worse than any other religion, including Islam.

    Indeed, Christianity is by far the worst religion on the face of the earth for collectivists, who find the concept of Free Will repugnant and disgusting.

    Religions such as Muhammadanism, on the other hand, which advocates conversion at the point of a sword, are just their cup of tea.

    Winston Churchill on Muhammadanism:

    How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

    Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

  45. #245
    On September 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, Mookie said:

    Mookie
    That’s a wonderful idea, but a little late here, like you said. It’ll definitely be a plan next year. One of our local radio stations has been thanking everyone from first responders, military, state troopers, etc. and I think it is great.

    Whatever the first responders get paid, whether it’s cops, firefighters or military, it isn’t enough.

    I was thinking about the 30 dozen donuts and I think next year, we might give them Dunkin’ Donuts gift cards. They could use them whenever they wanted. The idea of 360 donuts is staggering. Those poor guys! :lol:

  46. #246
    On September 11th, 2008 at 6:42 pm, navywife91 said:

    On September 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, Mookie said:

    Giftcards are always a good thing.

    BTW, I do not always agree with you, but I think some of us are getting a little off track here. There are plenty of issues to go after Obama and we need to focus on them. This election is only going to make things worse, unfortunately.

  47. #247
    On September 11th, 2008 at 6:53 pm, Mookie said:

    BTW, I do not always agree with you, but I think some of us are getting a little off track here. There are plenty of issues to go after Obama and we need to focus on them. This election is only going to make things worse, unfortunately.

    If we all agreed on everything, this place would be an echo chamber and I don’t think Michelle would want that. Makes things dull. :lol:

    You’re right: this election is going to make things worse. There was already some nastiness but it went off the charts after Palin was chosen. It’s sad because I think we, as a country, are better than this. Look at how unbelievably united we were seven years ago. The firefighters who rushed up those stairs didn’t care if the person they were saving was a conservative or a liberal. They only cared about getting things done. I know it’s incredibly naive to even think that could carry over to politics but it’s still a nice thought.

  48. #248
    On September 11th, 2008 at 7:18 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Michelle,

    Thank you for the way you posted this morning. It was very powerful the way you published posts at the same minute of the day as when those events happened seven years ago. It really helped us all remember the events of that morning as they occurred.

    I assume you wrote these posts late last night / early this morning, and then switched them to “published” status at the appropriate times this morning. I can see from the timestamp of this post (3:13 AM) that you were up very late, and then on TV this morning. You are incredible, and our hats are off to you.

    Thank you for helping our nation remember.

    Thank you for all you do.

  49. #249
    On September 11th, 2008 at 7:35 pm, NY Andy said:

    I put this in the wrong thread a few minutes ago, this is a better home for it.

    This is a good tribute from last year done by an artist who gets it.

    It’s awesome too!

  50. #250
    On September 11th, 2008 at 7:55 pm, Boomer said:

    Michelle thanks for everything you posted on this day of remembrance for the 3,000 souls our country was deprived of on this day. Every time I walked outside on base today I walked past the Wing’s flag pole with the colors at half staff in tribute to those murdered and the horrors many of us helplessly watched 7 years ago. The hardest part was reading the names, ages, and short biographies available on those we lost. I found my jaw tightening and teeth clenching as it all came rushing back. I will never forget or never surrender!

    Our Wing was the first to deploy, because they were ready and unfortunately the first to suffer a casualty to avenge this devastating attack on our nation. We are currently in the process of sending a large portion of our active duty folks over to the war zone for the 4th time as part of the Air Expeditionary Forces (we usually have 100 – 200 souls gone at any given time). I wish I was still young enough to go with them, but my duty is to stay behind and fight the battle of the budget to obtain the resources they need to win this thing. Please keep them along with all our troops in your prayers as we do everyday in our household hoping for their safe and swift return after achieving their goal of total victory.

  51. #251
    On September 11th, 2008 at 8:28 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Watch this: Blocking the Path to 9/11.

    VERY irritated. I have wanted to watch Path to 911, and have searched a very long time trying to find a DVD somewhere, so I thought I could finally order it.

    I go to the link, click a few times, and find their order page is not working.

    I dial the number listed, and am told the wait time is 2 minutes. After 10 minutes, I am told my wait time is 7 minutes.

    Yes, I would like to watch this since I never got to see this when it aired, but fix the web site/phone number.

  52. #252
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

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