Earth to Howard Kurtz

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 12, 2008 04:59 PM

How can I put this politely?

Get a clue.

Here.

Here.

And here, from an honest liberal:

ABC should release the entire, unedited interview, so that Americans can judge her more fairly.

The biggest concern is that she appeared to not know what the Bush Doctrine is. There are, in fact, different definitions of it – but all have had an impact on this nation. One hopes Palin is more up to speed than she seemed.

Of course, she needs to be questioned on many issues – but this interview left us with little new information about her.

Americans already know she lacks foreign-policy experience (as, by the way, did Democrats’ 2004 VP candidate, John Edwards). All we could learn from Gibson’s grilling on that topic was how well she’s memorized McCain’s positions. Why ask her whether Georgia and Ukraine should be admitted to NATO? Her position will match McCain’s, just as Joe Biden’s stands will mirror Barack Obama’s.

Plus, her answers last night are already being misrepresented. She said – quite correctly – that, if Georgia and Ukraine are admitted to NATO, the United States may be obliged to defend them. This has been morphed into an assertion that we might invade Russia. And ABC News bears much of the blame: It actually sent out a pre-broadcast alert to that effect.

So now we can play this stupid game, pretending she wants to invade Russia instead of debating real issues.

ABC’s errors didn’t end there. The interview seemed to show a lack of good faith, with the blatant misrepresentation of comments she’s made about the Iraq war.

Gibson – probably relying on a sloppy Associated Press report – told Palin she has said that, “Our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God.”

In a part of the interview that was edited out (but is available on ABC’s Web site), Palin says, “You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.”

Gibson snaps: “Exact words.”

Sorry, Charlie – let’s go to the tape.

In the video of her remarks, Palin says “Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [US soldiers] out on a task that is from God.” She is clearly praying for wisdom for our national leaders – praying that they are following God’s will.

This is Christianity 101, not some fundamentalist plot to wage a holy war. Presumably, Obama, as a Christian, utters similar prayers for our country as well.

There’s more: Gibson also accused her of saying of Iraq, “There is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

Here’s what she really said: “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

Despite Gibson’s insistance that she’d said things that she clearly hadn’t, Palin was polite and seemed unrattled.

And that is what is rattling so many members of the unhinged MSM.

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  1. #453480
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, RobM1981 said:

    Did Palin retain the rights to the tape? Does she get her own copy, or at least an original transcript, so that she can keep the record straight?

    You have a better chance walking through a minefield than you do having ABC, NBC, CBS, or any print outlet report your statements accurately. They are all as discredited as they can be – we discuss it here routinely.

  2. #453481
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, sonofdy said:

    Michelle, Michelle, Michelle, Don’t you know that there is no media bias? :roll:
    I agree release the ENTIRE interviews. Lets be fair here.

  3. #453482
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    I was very impressed with the column by Kirsten Powers. I’d also be curious to see how many unhinged, moonbat hate e-mails she received for doing what journalists should do – report fairly.

  4. #453483
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, Paul Revere said:

    This is Christianity 101, not some fundamentalist plot to wage a holy war.

    There’s ya money quote. Americans by the 10’s of million pray for our country, our leaders, and our military.

  5. #453485
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, LC said:

    This interview won’t change the minds of people that are a) adamantly for Palin (and McCain), nor b) adamantly for her. Lines have been drawn and most people have already picked sides.

    All it will do is to show those on the fence just how slimy the MSM really are. This is just free advertising for the McCain/Palin ticket as far as I can see…

    ABC will eventually wise-up. We just need to let them shoot themselves in the foot a couple more times before they figure out what the American people already know – that they are really in the tank for Obama and the Democrat party.

  6. #453488
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, John Ansell said:

    Arrogant
    Braindead
    Creeps.

  7. #453495
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    Kirsten Powers is an enigma… a liberal with guts. She’s probably going to get crucified by her own side, but she nailed it. Gibson was lazy, knew he was lazy, and just didn’t give a damn. Must have attended the Dan Rather School of Ethical Journalism.

  8. #453496
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:15 pm, JustAThought said:

    No surprises, nothing to see here. Move along folks…
    /sarc

  9. #453498
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    We’ll be hearing from trolls soon about how Kirsten isn’t a “real” democrat. I loved the work she and Michelle did together. And she’s right.

  10. #453501
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:19 pm, Anita said:

    Obama questions McCain’s patriotism (in Ohio), McCains says he puts Country first, it ’s fair to ask – which Country?

  11. #453504
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, wrcnossen said:

    Sara Palin should have nothing to do with ABC if they do not release the entire interview SOON. She has no need to help a media outlet that distorts her words.

    Freedom of the press, fine. But lies and distortion have consequences.

  12. #453505
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, graysonret said:

    The MSM just continues to lose credibility when it comes to interviews and reporting. I don’t waste my time watching news on the TV anymore, or any of the so-called “news shows” in the morning. They have become so totally biased, it’s a wonder that an intelligent person watches or reads them at all. They certainly show it in their obvious blundering in searching out anything against Palin. Lord, they even put out that her hairdresser got a ticket in 1983. I see them as total fools. Where is the deep digging in Biden? I wonder if the American people feel like I do…. Thank goodness it’s only a short time until November and this 2 year idiocy can end.

  13. #453507
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pm, John Ansell said:

    LOL Anita, he still has Juan Hernandez on his Campaign so I wonder.

  14. #453508
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pm, swmntman said:

    I stopped watching the network news during the Clarence Thomas hearings when the late Peter Jennings completely lied about what I had just watched live on CSPAN (I believe it was CSPAN back then – I do remember it was a live broadcast). I remember being stunned that he would deliberately lie. I also remember seeing reports that Jennings danced at a function with then 1st lady, Hilary Clinton and then offered a “journalistic” view of her (very favorable, of course) — My introduction to the true MSM.

  15. #453510
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Obama questions McCain’s patriotism (in Ohio), McCains says he puts Country first, it ’s fair to ask – which Country?

    I don’t know, but it’s pretty clear Obama values the opinions of every country in the world save one: America.

  16. #453512
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, wighttrasch said:

    All of the MSM fools lost my viewership during their coverage of the 2000 election.

    They have that look in their eyes again from the clips I’ve seen here.

    They’re completely mental, the lot of them.

  17. #453515
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:30 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    Obama just said on Cavuto’s show that everyone will pay lower taxes in his administration than they have since the Clinton administration. He said this twice.

    Whew – what a relief! My taxes won’t go up to pay for the masses of refundable tax credits he’s going to put in place for the 95% of Americans he has promised tax rebates to.

    Wait – this doesn’t work. I’m confused again!

  18. #453517
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:31 pm, Anita said:

    englishqueen01 said:

    Obama questions McCain’s patriotism (in Ohio), McCains says he puts Country first, it ’s fair to ask – which Country?

    I don’t know, but it’s pretty clear Obama values the opinions of every country in the world save one: America.

    Even ABC Reporter think it ’s unfair.
    Waiting for next McCain Ad.

  19. #453519
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pm, DBNinKY said:

    In a part of the interview that was edited out (but is available on ABC’s Web site), Palin says, “You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.”

    Gibson snaps: “Exact words.”

    Palin more than held her own and – unlike Gibson – she was truthful with the American public! Gibson showed himself to be a bitter hold-over from ABC News’ salad days – back when GMA was number one and he was its host.

    He’s mad that he can’t over-take Brian Williams in the news race and probably thought if he beat up on Palin, he’d gain credibility as a tough interviewer and attract more viewers to his stagnating World News cast.

  20. #453520
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, sandyb said:

    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, BayStateRepublican said:
    We’ll be hearing from trolls soon about how Kirsten isn’t a “real” democrat. I loved the work she and Michelle did together. And she’s right.

    Kirsten Powers is about the only lib commentator I can stand on FOX. Sometimes Bob Beckel is okay. He’s harmless. I always look forward to Skeletor being on vacation on H&C, with Kirsten filling in. She’s so calm and doesn’t have half the hate that the others do.

  21. #453523
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Kirsten Powers has been very fair regarding the entire Palin situation since the start. I noticed she was even disgusted a few times on FOXNews about the way the rumors were flying and how nasty the media was acting.

    However, this does not answer my question that I’ve been asking for a long time.

    What foreign policy experience does Barack, who is going for the #1 position actually have? Looks like the MSM has completely ignored that convenient little fact.

    Answer? None.

  22. #453525
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:37 pm, Dimsdale said:

    Clearly, the Democrat that wrote this was not a journalist. I am happy to see that there are a few, but not enough, clear heads on the other side.

    The MSM has given up all pretense of being objective.

    She was cool, calm and collected, and it killed Gibson that he couldn’t rattle her, even with the religious angle.

  23. #453526
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Kirsten Powers has been very fair regarding the entire Palin situation since the start. I noticed she was even disgusted a few times on FOXNews about the way the rumors were flying and how nasty the media was acting.

    However, this does not answer my question that I’ve been asking for a long time.

    What foreign policy experience does Barack, who is going for the #1 position actually have? Looks like the MSM has completely ignored that convenient little fact.

    Answer? None.

    Whaddaya mean? He had tea and crumpets with them on his “if it’s Tuesday, it must be Belgium” tour!

  24. #453528
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:39 pm, nyc123me said:

    ALL democratic party members should refuse to do any interviews with ABC or it’s affiliates, and exclude them from all press conferences. Contrary to what they believe, they do NOT have a right to be there – they are invited, and can just as easily be uninvited. I mean what would they do – make something up? Oh that’s right, they’re already doing that anyway.

  25. #453529
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, Regulus said:

    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    Gibson was lazy, knew he was lazy, and just didn’t give a damn. Must have attended the Dan Rather School of Ethical Journalism.

    There’s a fine line between being lazy and being deceptive — to oneself, and then to others.

    When given information that confirms his or her pre-convictions, an ideologue masquerading as a “journalist” easily succumbs to willful ignorance. That’s because deep down he or she knows that if the story is fully explored, the risk of uncovering additional facts that dilute or refute the message is too great.

    That’s precisely the mindset that doomed Mapes and Rather with their 60 Minutes “bombshell” about the phony TANG memos. And it’s what snared Gibson in the trap he thought he was setting for Palin.

    Today’s liberal “gotcha!” journos are Wile E. Coyote brought to life: constantly engaged in elaborate schemes to catch their Republican quarry in some kind of compromising situation, only to have it explode in their faces again and again.

    The Modern Liberal Journalism Code of Ethics:

    1. “Fake, but accurate!”
    2. “It might be true – so run with it!”
    3. Too good to check!”
    4. “But he’s a Democrat, so it’s different.”

  26. #453530
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:42 pm, tarpon said:

    Gov Palin seemed to be very knowledgeable, in spite of the obvious ‘machine gun’ questioning designed to get her to flub up.

    It’s going to be different, that’s for sure, watching the first dude there holding the Bible while she is sworn in. Giddy different.

  27. #453531
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:43 pm, letget said:

    I have watched little of the interview, but from what I have seen, Sarah did not do the famous ‘nan blink’. I am still voting for John and Sarah no matter what. I do not want bho or biden within a thousand miles of the WH.
    L

  28. #453535
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:54 pm, nyc123me said:

    Why are no interviewers treating Obama like the way they’ve been treating Palin and McCain? Obama would probably start crying.

  29. #453536
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:54 pm, navywife91 said:

    Whew – what a relief! My taxes won’t go up to pay for the masses of refundable tax credits he’s going to put in place for the 95% of Americans he has promised tax rebates to

    Yes, including 40% of those people who don’t pay any taxes at all, yet they are going to get money back????

  30. #453538
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:55 pm, judybeth said:

    The “Bush Doctrine” has been summarized into about 20+ paragraphs covering every aspect of the responsibilities of our elected officials to the American citizens to guarantee us our rights to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”.

    Additionally, the summary includes the call of citizens to actively participate in every way possible, even volunteering in the USA Freedom Corps,to insure that those liberties are extended to everyone within our neighborhoods, communities, and states. USA faith-based initiatives in America and throughout the World are a critical component to the Bush Doctrine.

    He calls upon a strong defense against those anywhere who would undermind and attack our American way of life. He believes that if people of the World are given a choice, they would not choose to live under dictatorships.

    President Bush believes in a strong defense and negotiating from strength, like President Reagan, and in pre-emptive strikes against sworn enemies of our democracy who plan to overthrow the USA. He believes in honoring our commitments to USA Allies.

    President Bush believes in creating economic growth around the Globe so that citizens around the World can have enough income to purchase the necessities for their families plus buy good from America and other free markets.

    Plus, much, much, much more!

    WHICH “PART” OF THE EXTENSIVE BUSH DOCTRINE DID “INTERROGATOR GIBSON” WANT GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN TO ANSWER IN 15 SECONDS?? She asked him which part because “Charlie” wasn’t specific until, most likely, someone (his producer) whispered into his earphone!!

    We love “No Blink”& “No BS from ABC” Sarah!

  31. #453539
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:56 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Editing his goofs instead of offering a correction just shows his bias even more.

  32. #453542
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:57 pm, navywife91 said:

    Why are no interviewers treating Obama like the way they’ve been treating Palin and McCain? Obama would probably start crying.

    See Regulus

    The Modern Liberal Journalism Code of Ethics:

    1. “Fake, but accurate!”
    2. “It might be true – so run with it!”
    3. Too good to check!”
    4. “But he’s a Democrat, so it’s different.”

  33. #453545
    On September 12th, 2008 at 5:59 pm, Dimsdale said:

    This morning, on the CBS Early Show, Bill Richardson was allowed to go on a long diatribe about Obama’s “extensive experience,” while Harry Smith talked over Giuliani and actually called him a liar (HS: “not true, not true, not true, not true”) when Giuliani was saying Obama has never been challenged on the same topics as Palin.

    And here is a gem from SeeBS titled “Palin’s Global-warming Skepticism” (last paragraph):
    (snip)

    But Palin’s record is Palin’s record, and the fact remains that she’s so far out there, she’s rejected the connection between global warming and human activity. Indeed, she’s done so more than once. This not only tells us something important about Palin’s understanding of public policy, it also tells us a great deal about how she perceives and considers evidence that runs counter to her ideology.

    Whole piece at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/12/politics/animal/main4443795.shtml?source=mostpop_story

    Even other Democrats are seeing what fools the media is making of themselves. A surprising opinion by Hillary’s former aide, Mark Penn, in “Ex-Clinton Aide: Media Tougher On Palin
    Political Players: Former Clinton Chief Strategist Mark Penn Argues The Press Has Lost Its Credibility”:

    Mark Penn: Well, no, I think the people themselves saw unfair media coverage of Senator Clinton. I think if you go back, the polls reflected very clearly what “Saturday Night Live” crystallized in one of their mock debates about what was happening with the press.

    I think here the media is on very dangerous ground. I think that when you see them going through every single expense report that Governor Palin ever filed, if they don’t do that for all four of the candidates, they’re on very dangerous ground. I think the media so far has been the biggest loser in this race. And they continue to have growing credibility problems.

    and

    CBSNews.com: So you think the media is being uniquely tough on Palin now?

    Mark Penn: Well, I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they’re not doing on the other candidates. And that’s going to subject them to people concluding that they’re giving her a tougher time. Now, the media defense would be, “Yeah, we looked at these other candidates who have been in public life at an earlier time.”

    What happened here very clearly is that the controversy over Palin led to 37 million Americans tuning into a vice-presidential speech, something that is unprecedented, because they wanted to see for themselves. This is an election in which the voters are going to decide for themselves. The media has lost credibility with them.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/11/politics/politicalplayers/main4442492.shtml?source=mostpop_story

  34. #453560
    On September 12th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Why are no interviewers treating Obama like the way they’ve been treating Palin and McCain? Obama would probably start crying.

    No, him and his minions will start crying racism.

    Same thing they’ll be crying when he loses the election.

  35. #453575
    On September 12th, 2008 at 6:41 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Gibson and his ilk CANNOT tell the TRUTH because they do not know the TRUTH and thus…the Truth cannot set them FREE!!!

  36. #453579
    On September 12th, 2008 at 6:45 pm, Mookie said:

    Waiting for next McCain Ad.

    Here you go.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyKGHvRL2_U

  37. #453580
    On September 12th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, John Ansell said:

    Well Mooky, that ad screems AMNESTY.

  38. #453590
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:10 pm, rightisright said:

    Mookie did you have to show that link, now i need to go to the bathroom and get sick?

    JA, every time I convince myself I need to vote for McShame in order to save this great country, the dumb a$$ opens his liberal mouth and throws another conservative under the bus. Last nite at that love fest in NY. another good example.

  39. #453592
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:17 pm, DianeK said:

    What I am wondering is; when is a reporter scheduled to follow biden around for a week and then through tough questions at him on national tv?

    I an not sure biden would survive.

  40. #453595
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:18 pm, Mookie said:

    On September 12th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, John Ansell said:

    Well Mooky, that ad screems AMNESTY.

    John, did you see the English translation on Hot Air? It made my jaw drop a little bit.

    ANNCR: Obama and his Congressional allies say they are on the side of immigrants. But are they?

    The press reports that their efforts were ‘poison pills’ that made immigration reform fail.

    The result:

    No guest worker program.

    No path to citizenship.

    No secure borders.

    No reform.

    Is that being on our side?

    Obama and his Congressional allies ready to block immigration reform, but not ready to lead.

    JOHN MCCAIN: I’m John McCain and I approve this message.

    This is what I was talking about the other night when Obama made his comments to the Hispanic caucus. I was worried about how McCain would respond.

    I don’t understand it. He’s building a steady lead and yet, it’s as if he’s determined to shoot himself in the foot. Not only that, but the tone of the second commercial he aired today on Immigration, this one in English, has all kinds of flowery prose in it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiZSci9oOFs

    The tone is completely different because he knows if he were to air the first commercial in English, the base would go nuts. Did he not think an English translation might make its way around?

    I’m still voting for him but he’s making it hard.

  41. #453606
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:32 pm, Ron Rockstar said:

    Fine, Howard Kurtz. I have some exact words for you.

    “My muslim faith” Barack Obama
    “Just downright mean” Michelle Obama

    I can take anything out of context as well

    Here is a quote from Barack Obama. I’ll just take out the parts I didn’t want to hear.

    I always believe that ultimately, if people are paying attention, then we get good government and good leadership. And when we get lazy, as a democracy and civically start taking shortcuts, then it results in bad government and politics.

    BARACK OBAMA, MSNBC interview, Sep. 25, 2006

    How about a direct quote without me striking anything out.

    The best judge of whether or not a country is going to develop is how it treats its women.

    BARACK OBAMA, Ladies’ Home Journal, Sep. 2008

    Hello Sarah Palin. Do we want to develop under Obama’s treatment of women.

    Is that what he said Howard Kurtz? You’ll have to look it up if you want to see if there was more to that quote.

  42. #453610
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:35 pm, John Ansell said:

    McCain, he’s Not POTUS, he’s just A POS. Wow Mookie. I thought I was taking a swipe at McAmnesty in an earlier post about Juan Hernandez still being on his campaign, but now I really wonder which Country he’s fighting for.

  43. #453611
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:35 pm, John Ansell said:

    :mad:

  44. #453613
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:36 pm, travlinman said:

    I haven’t appreciated all of Charles Krauthammer’s opinions over Palin, but he defends her nicely over the ‘Bush Doctrine’ flap from the Gibson interview. Krauthammer does know foreign policy as it is an integral part of his journalism.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

    My question to the media and liberal elites is, “How many of the other 49 sitting governors would know or even care to know to any large degree, about the intricacies of the so-called ‘Bush Doctrine’?”

  45. #453614
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:42 pm, uhangtight said:

    My question, to Charlie, is: do you know the meaning of Jihad? What is Jihad mean to you? Do you know the doctrine of Jihad?

    ‘Cause the last time I checked, Charlie, that meant ‘Holy War’, so whether or not ‘You’ are calling it a Holy War, your enemies sure as heck are! So maybe it is time you and the alphabet media got on the same page!

  46. #453618
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:45 pm, Reg.conservative said:

    Was that Hernandez voice in the add??

  47. #453619
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:45 pm, Mookie said:

    Kurtz is a fool. The minute Charlie said “exact words”, anyone with Google could verify it. Sometimes the simplest things escape these folks.

  48. #453621
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, almiller said:

    You’re hearing that last big sucking sounds as the MSM ’s credibility goes down the drain. It will never come back. That is really sad because a robust media is vital for a free society.

    We can only hope that outfits like Breitbart, Pajamas Media, Townhall and others can rise to fully fill the expected void in raw newsgathering that is ensuing from the collapse of MSM credibility.

  49. #453623
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:50 pm, Azygos said:

    Who cares about the “Bush Doctrine” he’s not running again. Now if we could just get rid of McCain and get a Palin/Steele ticket I’d really be happy.

  50. #453625
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:51 pm, rightisright said:

    Reg.conservative,
    I don’t think that’s Hernandez’s voice, but they all sound the same to me.

  51. #453628
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:53 pm, John Ansell said:

    Oh No, this will not sit good with the ladies. Palin charged Rape victims for the rape kits?

    Palin had been in office for four years when the practice of charging rape victims got the attention of state lawmakers in 2000, who passed a bill to stop the practice.

    Former Democratic Rep. Eric Croft, who sponsored that bill, said he was disappointed that simply asking the Wasilla police department to stop didn’t work. Croft said he doubts she was unaware of the practice.

    The campaign brushes it off but I’m shocked. Anything else on this Mrs. Malkin?

  52. #453631
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:54 pm, Speakup said:

    Earth to Howard Kurtz

    You can’t get here from there.

  53. #453632
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:54 pm, rightisright said:

    If Odummy can dump Plugs, can we dump McShame ?
    Palin/Steele would be a great ticket.

  54. #453635
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:57 pm, John Ansell said:

    Rightisright, I wouldn’t rush on this now. I hope the AP has the story wrong but man oh man. I’m a conservative through and through and love it when Government cuts spending but never in my life would I have a rape victim pay for the rape kit. That’s vile on so many levels.

  55. #453637
    On September 12th, 2008 at 7:59 pm, Ron said:

    Gibson has been a disappointment, but we aren’t as disappointed in him as liberals are that Palin hasn’t committed any serious mistakes. Actually, given the provocation, she’s been remarkably cool and calm.

  56. #453638
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:00 pm, Ron said:

    BTW John Ansell, the AP DID have the story wrong. Go see the video tape.

  57. #453640
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, John Ansell said:

    Ron, I just saw that information on Palin and the charging victims of the Kit. Does anybody know if it’s been proven wrong? Please Please Please say it ain’t so.

  58. #453641
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, John Ansell said:

    Thanks Ron. Thank you.

  59. #453642
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, rightisright said:

    Not sure John Ansell why you addressed that to me, mainly because I’m with you, conservative, very, the cost of a rape kit should be part of the cost of fighting crime a cost to the police/city.

  60. #453644
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:05 pm, John Ansell said:

    Alls fine now Rightisright. I just put your name because your post about Palin being lead. All is good now. Palin/Steele would be an awesome ticket. :grin:

  61. #453647
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:08 pm, Papa Louie said:

    Was Charlie Gibson FOR Sarah’s definition of “the Bush doctrine” before he was AGAINST it?

    GIBSON in 2008:
    “The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us.”

    GIBSON in 2001:
    “People were looking for a Bush Doctrine. They may have found it when he said the war on terror will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped or defeated.”

    Will the REAL Bush Doctrine please stand up? Is it the defeat of terrorism or the right to a preemptive strike? Charlie Gibson is on record defining it both ways, yet Sarah Palin should have known that he was asking about his second definition of the Bush Doctrine rather than his first. Her answer was spot on if Gibson had stuck to his 2001 definition:

    PALIN:
    “I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation.”

    What Gibson tried to do to trap Sarah Palin was a cheap and dishonest shell game. For some strange reason it reminds me of a verse from Psalms:

    He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. – Ps. 7: 15

  62. #453649
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:17 pm, James Felix said:

    …honest liberal:

    Who must hang out with friends in military intelligence and eat jumbo shrimp.

  63. #453651
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, travlinman said:

    Rape kits are charged to victims in more places than Wasilla, Alaska. It is even done in (GASP!!!) Illinois!

    http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjJhYzdlZmMzMzA1NGViNmE2MmUxYmUxZDg1NmQ1ZTk=

    I’m not defending the practice, but we all need to consider facts before jumping off to rash conclusions.

  64. #453656
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:25 pm, rightisright said:

    This all nothing more than left wing drivel…why would the mayor know who pays for the cost of a rape kit? Surely a mayor has more to do that worry about the cost of specific police forensic test.

  65. #453657
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:25 pm, travlinman said:

    A litle lecture from ol’ trav on our areas of disagreement with McCain:

    Some of you are clearly aiding and abbetting the enemy by some of your comments. I don’t think you realize how your comments come across. You are entititled to your opinions, but GD, enough is enough. McCain is the nominee and he is weak, in our opinion, concerning what to do with illegals. Keep letting him know your position on immigration, but quit providing cannon fodder to all of the nutroots who can use it to turn folks against the GOP ticket. If the worst we see from McCain is some campaign ads that seem ambivalent towards immigration, illegal or not, as the ad does not differentiate between the two, then we are still light years ahead of the Obama doctrine as it relates to us as tax-payers and citizens.
    Remember that we, yes we, stopped the ’shamnesty’ crap before and we can do it again by raising our voices in unison to our elected leaders. Even if McCain is in the White House. We will never see a candidate that is ‘all things to all people’. That is dangerous anyway. Let’s please remember who the real enemy is in this situation.

    I still love you guys. Even you Mookie. I am praying for your converstion to the ‘right’ side of things. I must be gettng soft in my old age. :)

  66. #453658
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:26 pm, d1carter said:

    I have discounted this entire interview because Gibson never asked Obama the type of questions he asked Gov. Palin. Until the MSM do their jobs, I ignore all of them.

  67. #453663
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:30 pm, rightisright said:

    d1carter, ditto here. I never watch news on a soup channel, i watch the reporting on fox close enough…and fox is not conservative no matter what the left says.

  68. #453666
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, Papa Louie said:

    She is clearly praying for wisdom for our national leaders – praying that they are following God’s will.

    This is Christianity 101, not some fundamentalist plot to wage a holy war. Presumably, Obama, as a Christian, utters similar prayers for our country as well.

    Yes he does. His prayer at the wailing wall, which he released to the media, ended with “And make me an instrument of your will.”

    Both Obama and Palin have prayed for God’s will to be done. The MSM never took issue with the content of Obama’s prayer, so why are they now taking issue with a similar prayer from Sarah Palin?

  69. #453668
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, travlinman said:

    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:25 pm, rightisright said:
    This all nothing more than left wing drivel…why would the mayor know who pays for the cost of a rape kit? Surely a mayor has more to do that worry about the cost of specific police forensic test.

    I don’t know the Wasilla police dept. budget numbers, but there were 5 rapes during the time period in question. $3000-$5000 total? I doubt that made the top of the budget list and required Palin being involved in the discussion. Is not most city budgeting performed by the town council anyway? That’s how it is around here. I think the mayor is the ‘chief executive’ if you will and actually may not be involved in the details. I seriously doubt that any budget meeting would have involved a line-by-line review of every appropriation. I know that in my company, our CEO, or the VP that I report to, does not know, or care, about line item specific dollar amounts as long as I present a doable and realistic budget for my department.

  70. #453669
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, trainwife1962 said:

    I want to see the Breck Girl’s interviews on similar subjects from 2004!!!!

  71. #453682
    On September 12th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, Papa Louie said:

    rightisright said:

    This all nothing more than left wing drivel…why would the mayor know who pays for the cost of a rape kit? Surely a mayor has more to do that worry about the cost of specific police forensic test.

    Exactly. And if she had known about it and had fired the police chief because he charged victims for a rape kit, she would be under investigation for it. And instead of supporting Palin for doing the right thing, the left would now be screaming about her abusive use of power.

    The left doesn’t care about what’s right or wrong, they simply look for reasons to justify their intolerance for those they hate.

  72. #453694
    On September 12th, 2008 at 9:16 pm, beenthere said:

    Has anyone outside of Washington policy wonks given two minutes thought to the Bush Doctrine? In years? I doubt even Bush has paid any attention to it. As a person who tries to do the good citizen number keep informed on every relevant issue, the “Bush Doctrine” barely makes the bottom 1000. Nobody knows what it means any more, even if it can be said to have had meaning. Our moral and intellectual would-be media masters are fools beyond measure. Wild horses, as the cliche goes, could not keep me from voting for Palin-McCain now.

  73. #453695
    On September 12th, 2008 at 9:17 pm, atheling said:

    Re: Rape kits.

    The woman is charged for the kit if she refuses to file charges.

  74. #453717
    On September 12th, 2008 at 10:43 pm, lonewolf said:

    Kirsten Powers is an obviously intelligent woman. Does anyone else get the impression that she is just parroting liberal talking points because that is her job?

  75. #453720
    On September 12th, 2008 at 10:45 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Good point, Papa Louie (#68).

    I’m assuming it’s hard for the MSM to understand what Palin actually said. This is how, if you’re going to rephrase the entire quote, it should go (my apologies to our armed services):

    Pray…
    for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also,
    …for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God…
    That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for,
    …that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.

    A lot of “that’s” in there. Now take out the relevant “that’s” from the previous re-quote, and it reads a little differently:

    Pray…
    for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also,
    …for this country[.]
    that
    …[O]ur leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God[.]
    That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that
    [T]here is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.

    WallahVoila! Whole new MSM-ified meaning!!1! I know I’m not the only one to look at it that way. Howie K missed the memo. He got the meme right, though.

    We all have different moral standards — what we consider good and evil — but it’s Gov. Palin’s strength and conviction in those morals that many admire. Her moral code is derived from Christianity. Is there something wrong with that? If anyone were to question Islamic moral code, who would be on top of that like flies on poop? Never mind, I already know the answer to that one.

    Palin came out of nowhere like Obama had, and she’s running for Veep. By the time he began running for the Presidency in earnest, Obama had completed, at best, the equivalent to Palin in terms of a professional political career (and a much different one). If — God forbid — anything should happen to Obama in office, is Biden ready? If Obama Biden is currently getting the same amount of scrutiny by the media that Sarah’s been handling, I need to be reminded.

    Certain people think that only Palin should speak for herself in her own defense. Um, in that, uh, case, ah, I guess Biden Obama supporters must also need to admit that Hillary might have been a better Veep permission to defend him.

    Expect Gwen Ifill to throw softballs at Biden while trying to nail Palin on the chin with fast ones during the VP debate, delving deep into Palin’s past and questioning her acquaintances. Because, y’know, Biden’s been around a long time and all the evaluation on him was done a long time ago. Diggy-dig-dig into Biden, please. Surprise me.

  76. #453809
    On September 13th, 2008 at 12:31 am, Flyoverman said:

    Sarah Palin may just be the catalyst that creates the tipping point that leads to the death of the MSM as we have known it.

  77. #453863
    On September 13th, 2008 at 1:47 am, Papa Louie said:

    Gibson also accused her of saying of Iraq, “There is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

    Here’s what she really said: “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

    This comes from the same people who hotly proclaimed that Republicans had taken Rev. Wright’s comments out of context – not because they didn’t quote whole sentences or whole paragraphs, but because they didn’t quote the whole sermon. Then when the whole sermon was quoted, they still claimed it was taken out of context because it wasn’t framed within the context of Rev. Wright’s entire life’s work.

    Can we use the word “hypocrisy”, yet?

  78. #453883
    On September 13th, 2008 at 2:28 am, CO2 Producer said:

    We have been for years, PL. They just haven’t gotten through the denial or anger stages yet. I don’t expect them to enter the bargaining stage for, say, ever.

  79. #453990
    On September 13th, 2008 at 9:37 am, lgm said:

    More of the same. Bush comes off as a moron, so does Palin.

  80. #454006
    On September 13th, 2008 at 9:57 am, Wade said:

    I thought that was an interview of Charlie Gibson applying for Dan Rather’s spot at CBS.

  81. #454009
    On September 13th, 2008 at 9:59 am, Wade said:

    More of the same. Bush lgm comes off as a moron, so does Palin any thing she posts.

  82. #454019
    On September 13th, 2008 at 10:14 am, DBNinKY said:

    Wright, Ayers, the Chicago political machine, Rezko, community organizing (?), dubious birth records and allegiances, “3AM” in Hawaii, and on and on, and yet the media dares to pick on the girl?! Man-o-man, is this going to backfire on the Democrats come November or what – thanks, MSM!

  83. #454180
    On September 13th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    On September 13th, 2008 at 9:37 am, lgm said:
    More of the same. Bush comes off as a moron, so does Palin.

    Said the moron…

  84. #454500
    On September 14th, 2008 at 12:59 am, Dimsdale said:
    On September 13th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    On September 13th, 2008 at 9:37 am, lgm said:
    More of the same. Bush comes off as a moron, so does Palin.

    Said the moron…

    See? lgm cancels himself out again!

  85. #454768
    On September 14th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, sfcmac said:

    Over the last 40 years, the American media has gradually synchronized with the leftist party line, which is part and parcel of modern journalism; any view to the contrary would portray them as “government tools”. Once considered the “Fourth Estate”, the press has mutated into the “Fifth Column”.
    It’s supposed to be the “watchdog” but who watches the “watchdog”? Most of them are so visceral and leftwing it makes the likes of Vladimir Lenin look like a Republican.

    They want all of the rights of free press but none of the consequences.
    Former Courier-Journal (Louisville, Kentucky) Editor Michael Gartner provided the quintessential reason for the MSM’s attitude during a C-Span program in 1987, when he said: “We have the right to be irresponsible”.

    That about sums it up.

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