The Atlantic should have Googled Jill Greenberg before hiring her
Scroll for updates…Atlantic to apologize to McCain for Greenberg…will not pay for photos, considering lawsuit…
I don’t feel sorry for The Atlantic magazine.
They are quite upset after discovering that Jill Greenberg, the left-wing photographer they hired to take photos of John McCain, is a deranged lunatic who manipulated pictures of the candidate to put him in a bad light — and then posted hateful photoshops of the images on her personal website and gloated about it to the Photo District News website.
Sample of her unhinged defacing of McCain’s pics, which looks like something straight out of a Democratic Underground thread:
Atlantic writer Jeffrey Goldberg, whose cover story was tainted by Greenberg’s work, writes: “Greenberg doctored photographs of McCain she took during her Atlantic-arranged shoot, which took place last month in Las Vegas. She has posted these doctored photographs on her website, which you can go find yourself, if you must. Suffice it to say that her ‘art’ is juvenile, and on occasion repulsive. This is not the issue, of course; the issue is that she betrayed this magazine, and disgraced her profession.”
Jill Greenberg disgraced her profession well before The Atlantic hired her.
A simple Google search would have turned up my post and posts by many professional photographers disgusted by what she did in 2004 and put on exhibit in 2006. This woman deliberately terrorized children, stripped them, ordered parents to “step out of the studio for a couple minutes” in concerted attempts to make children cry who were not cooperating, and then captioned the photos of the children with anti-Bush slogans.
Let me refresh your memories:
This is unbelievably sick. A left-wing photographer, Jill Greenberg, deliberately makes toddlers cry and turns the pictures into a Los Angeles art exhibit called “End Times” to indulge her Bush Derangement Syndrome. She slaps titles like “Grand Old Party,” “Four More Years,” and “Apocalypse Now” onto photos of the poor children she manipulated and goaded.
The Guardian covers the exhibit here with links to the children’s photos and reports how Greenberg deliberately provoked the children to tears:
When photographer Jill Greenberg decided to take a lollipop away from a small child, she had a broader purpose in mind.
“The first little boy I shot, Liam, suddenly became hysterically upset,” the Los Angeles-based photographer said. “It reminded me of helplessness and anger I feel about our current political and social situation.”
As the 27 two- and three-year-olds featured in her exhibition, End Times, cried and screamed, demanding the return of the lollipop given to them just moments before, Greenberg snapped away.
Someone at YouTube posted the gallery:
PopPhoto magazine published an interview with Greenberg, who used her own daughter in the anti-Bush exhibit as well, and speaks of the merits of children vs. monkeys as photo subjects:
When Jill Greenberg conceived the idea of photographing crying children back in 2004, she didn’t anticipate the attention the project would bring to her fledgling art career, or the furor it would raise. Greenberg, who lives in Los Angeles with her husband and two children, is already known as one of the country’s most success commercial photographers, with work for ad clients like Microsoft, Kraft, and Procter & Gamble and magazines like New York and Time. She has emerged as a potent force in fine art with a series of acutely lit portraits of monkeys and apes, which in turn led to her work with children.
Your images have certainly caused an uproar. What do you say to people who call you a child abuser?
I think they’re insane…Maybe getting kids to cry isn’t the nicest thing to do, but I’m not causing anyone permanent psychological damage.
How many kids did you shoot altogether?
Around 35. Some were the children of friends, plus my own daughter; others came from the Ford or Jet Set model agencies. Kid models aren’t very expensive—not as expensive as monkeys, for example.
The lighting is very dramatic. How did you accomplish that?
It’s the same lighting I used for my portraits of monkeys, and I’ve been using it for some recent magazine cover portraits…
Greenberg talks about the larger purpose of her “work:”
I saw this little girl who’d come to a party with her mom, and she was beautiful, so I thought it might be interesting to photograph her. When they came to my studio, the mother brought along her toddler son, and I decided to shoot him too. We took off his shirt because it was dirty. He started crying on his own, and I shot that, and when I got the contact sheets back I thought, “This could go with a caption, ‘Four More Years,’” like he was appalled at George Bush’s reelection…
…That was one of the things that interested me about the project—the strength and beauty of the images as images. I also thought they made a kind of political statement about the current state of anxiety a lot of people are in about the future of the country. Sometimes I just feel like crying about the way things are going.
Oh, and that’s not all. Greenberg and her husband went on to viciously attack and harass one of the photographers who criticized her tactics.
The woman is off her meds. Her website is named “The Manipulator” – and the entry page features one of the sick photos of the children she terrorized for her anti-Bush exhibit.
The child abuse-for-art controversy made international headlines.
Greenberg’s by-any-means-necessary anti-Bush zealotry was infamous in her industry.
Who recommended her to The Atlantic? Who vetted her?
The editors purport to be shocked and disgusted.
This is the same magazine that pays the salary of that cretin demanding Trig Palin’s birth records.
This is the same magazine that captioned a photo of McCain “McCainloser.jpg” just five months ago.
And now they say they were “blindsided?”
“We stand by the picture we are running on our cover,” said Atlantic editor James Bennet. “We feel it’s a respectful portrait. We hope we’ll be judged by that picture.”
But Bennet was appalled by Greenberg saying she tried to portray McCain in an unflattering way.
“We feel totally blind-sided,” he said. “Her behavior is outrageous. Incredibly unprofessional.”
Blindsided…or just blind?
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Update: The Atlantic’s editor James Bennet says he’ll apologize to McCain for the Greenberg fiasco.
Scott Johnson at Power Line points out that The Atlantic has much more to apologize for than Greenberg:
Substitute the word “hysterical” for the word “indecent” and Goldberg’s comment applies in spades to Andrew Sullivan, who has become the Atlantic’s marquee writer online. When I recently asked one of Sullivan’s colleagues at the Atlantic why it abides Sullivan’s disgrace of the magazine, he simply referred to the traffic Sullivan generates for the Atlantic online.
Sullivan is such a crude and hysterical polemicist that he long ago became a worthless if not virtually unreadable commentator. He is also utterly careless with basic facts. The case of Jill Greenberg simply adds an exclamation point to Sullivan’s disgrace of the Atlantic.
More: The magazine is refusing to pay Greenberg and is considering a lawsuit.
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An interesting thing to consider is if this collection of photoshop manipulation of a presidential candidate will garner the same level of outrage in the press as another form of mockery.
Let’s just see.
Already been done, MinnGal -
CNN Duped By Palin Photoshop
Any legit media that hires her should be held in contempt, but in her elite liberal “artistic” circles this guarantees her photoshoot jobs for life.
A democratic underground thread, or a poster calling for people to vote, that shows Bush eating a baby. Also with blood around his mouth. Sponsored by The Nation magazine.
I think the bloody mouth photo should be removed from prominent display here. That one is too repulsive to look at every time I click on this website. It’s making me want to avoid coming here.
Avoid coming here? You’ve got to be kidding.
Nope. That photo is that ugly. As it is, I’m holding my hand up over that part of my screen to keep from seeing it.
I hate to sound like like a leftie, but this remark was unnecessary. You insult people with real mental illnesses when you compare them to this depraved soulless b**** acting out because she doesn’t like George Bush. She’s doing these horrible things intentionally; people with real illnesses don’t. Mental illness affects millions of families, including conservatives, and they don’t need or deserve the stigma exacerbated by these glib “jokes.”
Just say, “This woman is cat-poop nuts” and we’ll all know what you mean.
In addition.. this woman appears to be disturbed and deranged. Her statements as they refer to children concern me greatly.
Ford and other agencies that have utilized her for photo shoots should avoid her at all costs.
If this is what she does in public, I’m frankly concerned about what she may do in private.
Meanwhile, Biden is on the campaign trail in Charlotte, NC with the following message:
Biden: electing black president is transformative
By MIKE BAKER
Associated Press Writer
Posted: Sep. 14 8:11 p.m.
Updated: Sep. 14 10:00 p.m.
CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says electing a black person to the White House would be transformative.
Biden, campaigning in Charlotte, N.C., said Sunday that choosing a black candidate would be a “transformative event in American politics and internationally.” His running mate, Barack Obama, seeks to be the first black president in the United States.
Biden said Obama’s policies make his presidency even more transformative.
North Carolina hasn’t voted for a Democrat in three decades but has a large black population galvanized by Obama’s candidacy. Both Obama and Republican presidential candidate John McCain have been airing television ads in the state.
Fox News just announced that the editor of The Atlantic will be on at 10 am EST. Can’t wait to hear the excuses and how “this controversy is distracting us from the real issues.”
As the November election draws closer, the leftwing wackjobs grow more and more visceral, malicious, and just downright crazy.
You think the dems are nuts now? Just wait until McCain wins in November and Obama is sent packing back to William Ayer’s neighborhood in Chicago.
They left the room!! Like someone else mentioned, someone who has your kid in hand and asks you to leave the room~that is a huge red flag! I would never do it.
Funny! And oh so true!
grumbles
Interesting point. However, my comment was directed specifically at the left in this case without a defense of the right.
Also, if Greenberg thinks that losing an election will make these poor kids cry, just think of what an abortion feels like. Awful.
You’d think these people would just sponteneously combust they’ve got so much anger in them.
A former coworker I’ve known for about 15 years is an avid supporter of The One. BP (Before Palin), I told him I didn’t have a dog in this fight, since all the candidates were a poor representation of America. He was okay with that, and we continued sending the usual e-mail jokes and cartoons.
However, after I said that I was voting McCain because of Palin, he became positively unhinged and sent me the most hateful e-mails you can believe, forwards of letters detailing Palin’s horrendous views, past, etc., that have been debunked.
I thought about writing back a respectful letter pointing out that even though I thought less than nothing of his candidate, I didn’t accuse him of “Alzheimer’s befalling his household.”
I just saved the letter and hopefully, on November 5th, I’m going to resend him the orig letter with the attachment of “McCain/Palin Win in Landslide.”
If there are still any fence sitters out there, I hope Hannity will air these photos nightly until the election to show old-school dems what their party has deteriorated into.
Contrast the McCain-shark ad with a pix of Obama wearing a halo. That should tell the wishy-washy that their decision has been made for them by the all-knowing, all-powerful MSM and promote a backlash in the voting booth.
Not pickin’ on you, BC, but ya gotta be made of a little tougher stuff than that. Just saying.
Normally I am, purplepeep. And I endure wretched photos of Hillary and Helen Thomas without a peep. But that one turns my stomach.
Over at Ace, they quote Jeffery Goldberg, author of The Atlantic’s McCain story saying: “Every so often, journalists become deranged at the sight of certain candidates, and lose their bearings.”
Every so often?? How about daily with respect to McCain and Palin and NEVER with respect to Obama and What’s-his-name?
Goldberg may be upset at the photographer’s excesses, but his comment reveals that he is just as out of touch with the real world as she is.
Like Jill Greenberg didn’t show them a portfolio of her work. Get real, Atlantic. We’re not as ignorant as you think we are. People like that are usually quite proud of themselves and think they are very clever and can’t wait to tell everyone all about it.
..yeah, lets blame the photographer. Excuse me? Do these writers have so little control over their product that they just crank out the words and not care about the pictures associated with it??Did he think the ’snappy’ title would draw people to his piece in the magazine? Give me a break…….IMO, the writer, editors and obviously the photographer knew what was going on….
Have not read this whole thread to see if anyone else noticed. But Alfred Steiglitz did the same style cover photo for a Time magazine cover on Nazi industrialist Alfred Krupp. This is not a technique unique to this woman. From Free Dictionary: Krupp: German steelmaking armaments firm, founded in 1811 by Friedrich Krupp (1787-1826) and developed by his son Alfred Krupp by pioneering the Bessemer steelmaking process. The company developed the long-distance artillery used in World War I, and supported Hitler’s regime in preparation for World War II, after which the head of the firm, Alfred Krupp (1907-1967), was imprisoned.
Did not know a liberal Republican could evoke the same intense revulsion in todays liberal elite as could a Nazi. So much for civil and principled debate. Go staight to the character assassination technique. How exactly the the Atlantic editors let this one slide by? Does this type of fraud not get the attention of the FEC?
The scary thing is that people of her ilk (extreme leftists) used to be a small minority in this country. After years of indoctrination (college education) it seems that this attitude has taken over like some sort of disease. It is hard to find anyone under 30 who isnt a rabid leftist.
I’m not! I’m 25, conservative, and proud of it. I went to school with a guy who’s 23 now, also a staunch conservative, and destined to be President one day.
There is hope. They say a liberal is really a conservative that hasn’t been mugged; reality (of paying taxes, of paying for life) sets in and people shift.
Leftist hate-mongers simply cannot stop themselves; they do not have it in their DNA to do so.
The preeminent question is:
Are there enough people in the American electorate to see through the mental disease that infests leftwing whackjobs (and their lackeys in the Idiot Media), and vote for McCain to at least keep OBummer out of the White House?
I fear not.
Gee,
locking somebody in a room and phsychologically abusing them until they break down.
Gitmo = torture
photographer = art
sick f*
On September 15th, 2008 at 10:12 am, RedDog said:
Well, I think the Nazi got more classy treatment then the US Republican presidential candidate. It’s good to know the left has it’s priorities straight. Stieglitz was a real artist by the way, any comparison between him and that hack from Toronto just elevates her.
So if some one took pictures it would have been art?
No wait, some one did and that caused the stink.
So what did she do to those children to get them to cry. They all look horrified. Did she let them play with small animals and then bludgeon the animals in front of them? Did she just scream at them. How did she abuse them enough to get them to look like that.
I have contacts at Ford. I’m going to talk to them.
She’s a sick bastard. She should be jailed for abusing children as I see it.
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I wouldn’t get too panicked, Gorebot. Here’s an Electoral College projection from a left leaning (Kos Kidz usually love it) poll-tally site.
FiveThirtyEight.Com
Quick take from there, as of today: McCain 289.1, Obama 248.9.
(270 electoral votes take the Presidency)
It is obvious that we are experiencing a crisis bigger even than radical religious fundamentalism, the reason for the WOT. How do you deal with a complete collapse of trust in journalism?
The editors of a major news magazine do not know who the people are that they are hiring! If they do not know something as simple as that, how can we trust that the stories they are publishing are accurate?
I think its time for me to create some new art—koran smothered in pig manure with colmes superimposed on it.
Yeah that should get me expelled from school.
GSP
It’s official, libs like that need help.
This has got to be one of the most blatantly evil things I have ever read about or heard of.
Well, that and the look on Peter Jenning’s face during the 2000 Florida recount….
It is infuriating to see the pics of these children crying and screaming at the whim of this pathethic moron. The irony is that this “adult” then took pics of John McCain and photoshopped them just like a kid would draw a mustache on the face of someone they didn’t like. Lowlife. The parents should wake up and smell the coffee, too. They’re lucky she didn’t do worse things to their children (then again, who knows what she actually did?).
Oh come on Aviator. The US Army can have their Abu Graib. Let her have her kid torture thing. It’s for a good cause after all. And she is so progressive.
Do you really think Michelle tortured the baby in that pic?
Looks like The Atlantic is already trying to cover their butts. I guess their self-righteousness only goes as far as their pocketbooks after all.
Isn’t the above statement just a wee bit different from their original statement they made considering her and her “art”?
Of course The Atlantic knew what it was doing. It’s like hiring Michael Moore to make a documentary about the McCain campaign. Who needs Pravda or state-run media when we have the American MSM? This is why I only watch FoxNews, listen to talk radio, and read blogs. I don’t believe a damn thing otherwise. Nobody has a penny’s worth of credibility anymore.
And Jill Greenberg is a word that rhymes with “punt.” I rarely deem that on anyone, but she more than earns it. A typical leftist, evil and rotten at her core.
All five my kids and my dozens and dozens of nieces and nephews are almost all either latch key or millenial kids and they are nowhere new “rabid leftists”. You have to also remember that most of our best of the best, the American Military fall into that catagory.
“Help” = An Obama loss this November, a McCain win and 12 years of republicans in office.
They might just go off the deep end at that point.
Just imagine the photo shoot this woman will do to top her ‘crying kids’ when Bush won re-election and her candidate, Kerry lost. ….. it’s gonna be epic.
The fact that this ill woman is a growing force in the art world (as opposed to the world the rest of us inhabit) should have been warning enough to Atlantic. I suspect that they were deceived because they WANTED TO be deceived.
The Atlantic knew what it was getting itself into. They’re a part of the current “syndrome” running amock in Elite Media: push the limits so much until there is no longer a definition of “responsible journalism.”
This woman Greenberg is a disgrace. Not only is she just an irresponsible photographer, but she is as unhinged as they come. To blatantly manipulate helpless children, as she did her own daughter, just to put on a political photography exhibit, is pathetic.
The Atlantic is just another worthless magazine for East Coast leftists who like to talk about themselves. It’s not for ordinary folks who want a debate about the issues or the records of the presidential candidates. When the media, like The Atlantic, start doing their jobs and stop shilling for Obummer, then journalism will be seen as unbiased again.
This woman is just sick.
Are there not contracts signed when these types of things occur? If McAmnesty signed a release, then he is at fault too.
I mean, we are blaming Atlantic for not vetting this women, but shouldn’t a man with many big guns working to get him elected check things out too?
Aren’t most politicians and their assistants lawyers, and shouldn’t they be smarter than they acted? They let McAmnesty get in front of this camera toting liberal.
This sounds like a rookie mistake.
I’m 24, ultra liberal, and proud of it. My parents and my siblings are also liberal. I go to a liberal university where more than 90% of faculty and students are liberal. One reason I can NEVER become a conservative is that my family is secular and we never go to church, and I really hate religion. In fact I have read a few books about different religions (Judaism, Buddhism, Islam and Hinduism) and I think these 4 religions are far more interesting than Christianity.
Yes there are. I guess i should have included the link as well. They are thinking of suing her.
From FOX News a little bit ago:
And they are mutually exclusive, how?
PS – when will you learn to think for yourself instead of relying on your family?
MY point would be, why would McAmnesty even agree to her. Or is this going to be used as another example of him failing to know how to use the internet?
If Atlantic is as peeved as they claim to be, there could be consequences for Ms. Greenberg. My guess is she was hired as a 1099 employee with certain conditions. She might be out of $$$$ she would have otherwise been paid if she hadn’t been so immature.
See, they breed like roaches!
This “woman” is sick. She has a picture of a monkey taking a dump on his head.
Right, in a way it shows lack of judgement.
Oh, you probably should realize how sad you really are.
Group think doesn’t lend itself well to diversity of opinion or belief system. I grew up in a liberal college town where most everybody is liberal and expects anyone they come in to contact with to be as well. It’s pretty sad that you think that because you’re secular, you can look down your nose at people who embrace faith and something deeper than their own hubris.
Where are your statistics as to political makeup within colleges and universities? It is trendy to be a liberal on college campuses. I should know since I was dopey enough to think I was one at one point.
I think you’re been brainwashed, especially on the religion standpoint. If you think that other religions, such as Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism don’t have their problems, you need to do more research. Muslim extremists have taken over Islam. Extremist Hindus target Christians in India for their beliefs. No religion, no matter your protestations, is perfect.
You also don’t have to go to church to embrace faith or a “higher power.” I don’t go to church and I don’t see myself as secular. This is a blatant mistatement on your part and rather ignorant to say.
At 24, you know nothing of life and need to grow up. It is comforting to be cosseted by your own political bent but it’s nothing but an echo chamber. If you really cared about “diversity of viewpoint” in real life, you’d get out more.
Then again, I’ve met many liberals both abroad (Europe) and America and none of them have any regard for differing viewpoint. They’re in love with themselves and a set of beliefs they think should never be challenged. No wonder there are many like you and my very liberal sister-in-law who don’t go to church.
the shark teeth photo has the caption:
“I am a bloodthirsty warmongerer”
Warmongerer? is that different than a warmonger?
I can only think he agreed to it thinking that she would put professionalism and her reputation above her petty politics and childish antics.
And I love how the Nazi Flower lists her “credentials” as if they are so stunning. All it shows is a narrow mind, narrow thinking and lack of a desire or need to branch out and gain knowledge from different sources.
It diminishes credibility in so many ways…but that is so apparently lost on one so narrow and closed minded.
Wait till you have to carry $300,000 malpractice and invest $1,000,000 for equipment. Did I mention school loans?
Lol, $250,000…
That is absolutely disgusting. Some people are just insane. I ain’t buying that magazine.
Crying baby shooting crying babies.
edelweiss said:
This is really proof that liberalism allows you to stay within a chrysalis of ignorance. Nyk is the same way. Could anyone hear want to use a medical doctor that thinks this way?
Very dangerous person here show no reasoning skill whatsoever.
This just shows a real lack of knowledge resulting from a typical liberal education.
This liberal thinks that people turn to a religion because it is “interesting“.
This is a typical, out of touch, ivory tower, elitist, Obamasiah line.
Clearly you haven’t read books on Judaism or Islam because both of those have the same basis as christianity and in fact the torah is almost the same as the old testiment. Islam considers itself as the next stage of Judaism and Christianity. The fact that you didn’t know that means you are lying about reading up on these 2 religons at least and are bigoted about christians.
WTH is a “warmongerer”? Is that the same as being an illiterate “photographerer”?
And NOTHING makes someone more of an expert than “Reading a few books”. Wow…you know everything there is to know that way.
The youth and inexperience is blatant.
From Dictionary.com:
I’m an atheist yet I’m conservative about most things. There’s no dearth of woo-woo irrational tripe on the left, indeed it’s much worse.
I graduated from an exceedingly liberal college in May and I went to school with loads of people just like you. They don’t personally know any conservatives, so they don’t know how to think any other way. Liberals who have looked into other points of view and are still liberals are one thing; liberals who don’t know anything other than liberalism are another.
Do you realize how damaging an education is when it only presents one viewpoint? You talk about your 90% liberal school like it’s something you take pride in. It’s not teaching you how to think for yourself. I know. I went to one like it. It’s keeping you in a mindset where you can glibly say things like “I really hate religion” but then claim that religions other than Christianity are better because they’re more “interesting”.
Do personally know any hunters? Anyone who believes abortion is the taking of a human life and should be illegal? Anyone who takes every word of the Bible literally? Anyone who is strongly opposed to gay marriage? Anyone who does manual labor for a living, and isn’t just doing it as a way to make money so they can finish college? I don’t think you do, and if you don’t, you live in an insulated bubble. Maybe after meeting people like that, you’d still be a liberal. But at least you’d be a liberal who was more informed about the varieties of people and beliefs in the world. Right now you’re a liberal because that’s all you know how to be, not because you’ve given serious consideration to anything else and rejected it. And that’s selling yourself short.
I graduated from one of the best “liberal arts” colleges in the US and I don’t remember anyone that crazy.
This chick sounds like she’s from Bard or something.
I hope Greenberg gets the Oprah Treatment, I was watching the Boycott Oprah you tube videos that’s boycott her show and magazine subscriptions being canceled hmmm now that is two magazines that are in trouble for their bias.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdKDE_4NjSI&feature=related
So she causes and exploits terror and fear in children to make her political points? How does this make her any different from what she claims to despise in John McCain and the Bush Administration? Politics and her hypocrisy aside, this woman needs to be in jail for torture and child abuse.
Nah, she should be black balled.
uhhhhhh, can you SAY that on a non porn site???
anyone interested in betting on how long it takes for the ’shark’ picture to end up on Michael Moore’s website??? That kind of garbage ALWAYS end up on his site. What a moronette, PDS at it’s worst.
Chronology: The “Old Testament” is from wayback antiquity, the “New Testament” came after Jesus i.e. 33 AD or so.
Mohammed invented “Islam” some 600 years later, ripping off those Judeo-Christian texts, rewriting them from whole cloth and incorporating local myths related to misc regional desert gods/goddesses, most notably moon deities to produce the “Koran”.
The first five books of the Old Testament ARE the Torah. What Chritians call the “Old Testament” in it’s entirety is called the “Tanakh” in Judaism.
If I may be so bold as to ask…what the hell were those parents thinkings? Never mind, they are probably liberals…for the better good, no doubt.
Is that good for Michelle’s O’s kids?
1 more sign Gov. Palin has ‘em runnin’ scared and I love every step.
McCain/Palin ‘08
On September 15th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, Rob said:
His name is “McCain” and he agreed to it because adults often expect other chronological “adults” to behave like adults. We expect “professionals” to behave professionally. When you get to that emotional level you may come down with the same affliction.
There will be a cost for this, Jill Greenberg isn’t going to be trusted to act professionally by sane magazine editors anymore. She wont starve, but it will cost her.
Waterboard her.
That is what we need, a leader that is wise enough to “expect other chronological “adults” to behave like adults.” Maybe he will sit down with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad without conditions.
I am glad McAmnesty is so trusting. That is JUST what we need in a leader.
Goldwaternight-
I graduated from one of the best “liberal arts” colleges in the US and I don’t remember anyone that crazy.
This chick sounds like she’s from Bard or something.
I see this stuff fairly frequently and its mainly in my sociology, and ethnic centrist classes. While at times it can be frustrating being the only conservative in the class, I have hope that my answers to their questions will continue to point out their liberal fallacies.
The sad thing is that my parents are very liberal, and thats all I heard every day for 18 years (ie gays are normal, women make only 65 cents that men make, Christans want a theocracy and the like). It wwasn’t until I went into the military, and was blessed by meeting a Christian woman who introduced me to the other side of the philsophical arguements with a very good basis in the scriptures.
I use to be involved in the New Age, TM, and the like. I researched various other religious beliefs and in the end gave my life to Yeshua.
GSP
The funny thing is that I now understand the cliche that parents send their kids to college so they can learn how to hate their father.
Why is the left allowed to get away with all of this crap, including this insane photographer, Damon, Serandon, Chase, the titsy witsy twins (Anderson and Lohan), the 40 or so “lawyers” that parachuted into Alaska, etc?
Why is it that our side asks legitimate questions and is called racist, or intolerant? It’s ass backwards. Why can’t we drop our lawyers into Chicago? I’m SURE they’d find a goldmine of illegal activities there with BO’s name on it.
Can’t McCain sue the crap out of these people?
I went to a engineering/liberal arts college: I took a few filler courses from the “liberal side” when I was there. The class was US popular culture and there was a kid who was interning at the White House; the lib teach lambasted him in front of everyone and tried to embarass him. I think it was over John Negroponte’s appointment as Director of National Intelligence or Ambassador to Iraq (not sure).
The whole class was a farce; the guy was a pompous nerd who later admitted he dated a girl who ate raw meat (I guess she was German).
I get your point though.