A debate I’d like to see
Inspirational abortion survivor Gianna Jessen vs. morbid abortion promoter Jane Fonda.
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Would Jane be wearing half-glass bi-focals on the end of her nose during the interview?
I would rather see Gianna debate B.O. (sans teleprompter)
What debate? The pro-infanticide crowd simply has no defense for the fact that abortion ends a human life.
amazing.
My $$$ is on Gianna, and Hanoi Jane would be doing her best “no mas” and walk off the stage.
GSP
Ms. Jessen put the question, “If it is not infanticide, then what would you call it?” (slightly paraphrased) two or three times to Alan Colmes last night, and he blubbered a non-answer each time…because he did not want to give the only answer.
What a pathetic, monstrous clown he is….
Cue the change-the-subject sophists in 5,…4,…3,….
Yes, I’d like to see that as well.. then she can debate Obama… then Biden… Then Obama’s Bitter Half…
The list goes on.
I saw Ms. Jessen on H&C last night and was truly moved by her testimony. Not only did she survive eighteen hours of being burned in her mother’s womb by saline solution, but she was left to die in an annex by the abortionist doctor after being born alive! Thankfully a nurse with a heart called for an ambulance to get Baby Jessen to a hospital. The monstrous ordeal left a once healthy Jessen with CP, but she is not allowing it to dampen her mission as an inspiration and a witness to the power of life.
There really is not excuse for obamas votes.
That’s a debate most of us would PAY to see. Saw Jessen on H&C last night. What an amazing PERSON.
On September 16th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, walterc said:
Ditto.
But that would be above B.O.’s pay grade.
Is B.O.’s IQ high enough to answer the following question?
The vid of Obama shows him to be the spineless shill of a leader.
I will outlive Hanoi Jane and whizz on her grave.
to steal an idea from Patsy in ‘Absolutely Fabulous’–you can have the plastic domes on her chest afterwards too…
Is Jane still with us? She’s gotta be going on 90.
Ms. Jessen, I so admire her. What a strong, loving, special person she is…I wonder how many of this type of person we have missed out on in the 30 million plus MURDERED in the last 40 years.
I generally don’t watch H&C, mainly because Cloomes is such scummy, whiny a$$. Glad I got to see Ms. Jessen for sure, she’s incredible.
The debate I would like to see is a little off this topic.
Energy security, economic security, national security.
Nancy Pelosi vs. Sarah Palin.
Isn’t Fonda supposed to be meeting with al Qaeda to raise their morale?
You know, I frequently see attacks by liberals which state that women “should have control over their reproductive organs.”
If they employed control, would they get pregnant in the first place? It sounds more like they are trying to “remedy” their inability to control those organs.
Babies are not reproductive organs. They are DNA identifiably unique individuals, as opposed to any of the reproductive organs of the mother.
I’d get Pay-Per-View for that matchup.
Agree. I cannot understand how half the country cannot see through him, or can be ignorant enough to believe that this country has become what it is through socialism, moral relativism, lack of Christian principles (FU atheists!), dependence on foreign powers or any other position libs promote.
Even better than Gianna’s “what would you call it?” question was when she asked “if abortion is about ‘women’s rights’ … what were mine?”
Game, set, and match.
And maybe we can’t say that Barry is “for infanticide.” But we can most definitely say he doesn’t want to stop it.
I think Gianna is very inspiring.
I’m very glad she’s here.
God bless her.
I completely agree - it was pretty fun watching her on Hannity & Colmes last night. I loved the “what would you call it” question too - I’m sure Alan enjoyed the taste of shoe leather on that one…
She wouldn’t even need to debate Fonda - her mere presence speaks volumes, just as Trig Palin’s beautiful little face speaks volumes.
Slightly O/T here, but related - one question I’d love to have Obama answer in a debate is this: If one of your daughters came to you as a pregnant teenager, carrying your grandchild, what advice or counsel would you give her about her “options”?
If you think she was great on H&C, read this.
Awesome.
You are so correct. Over the years, this question has been asked exclusively of pro-life candidates, most likely to try to trip them up. I don’t recall it ever being asked of pro-abortion candidates.
Would you mind collecting a few other donors contributions who might not outlive the old b….?
Lucky for him HIS mother didn’t exercise HER “options” when SHE was a 17 year old adulteress impregnated by a married man.
Lucky for HIM, us not so much.
Gianna Jessen - Hannity & Colmes Interview
I would rather see a death match battle in the arena. Both armed with fighting irons….
GOD, I wish I was emperor…
Did Jane Fonda ever have any children? Did she abort (kill) any?
I remember reading this account before (where, I don’t recall at present), but you’re absolutely correct - Gianna was and is inspiring on a level that is beyond awesome. She has shared her story many times over the years, beginning when she was just a young girl, and I continue to be humbled and awed by the poise and the grace that she displays.
And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them.
Romans 8:28 (New Living Translation)
One of my favorites is Ezekiel 23:19-20
I hope the loser of the debate gets to spend four hours in a soundproof room with six ex-Army Ranger or Force Recon Marine Vietnam Veterans.
Nice idea, but I have no intention of standing in a line that long again.
Like many of you, I saw this too.
It was great, she ‘destroyed’ Colmes, even with CP, and that IS her blessing….amongst many others this amazing woman has.
Thanks for sharing of yourself, Ms. Jessen and God Bless YOU!
Why they put that liberal Quasimodo on TV……
And this pertains to Gianna’s story how?
Abortion supporters have userped the term Pro-Choice. What they really mean by choice is a women’s right to “change her mind.” I consider myself both Pro-Life and Pro-Choice. I’m Pro-Choice in the sense that no woman should be forced to get pregnant. If she is forced to through rape or incest, she should have a choice in what happens next.
I also believe that everyone has a right to self-defense. Just like a cop has the right to shoot a minor who pulls a gun on him, a woman whose life is in serious danger due to her pregnancy has the right to defend her life by abortion if necessary.
That being said, if a woman willingly engages in an activity that involves a risk of pregnancy, she is making a choice. In that case she has accepted the risk and is responsible for the outcome. She does not have the right to change her mind after the fact any more than someone who mortgages his home to play the lottery has the right to get his money back when he loses.
It’s sad when someone jumps out of a plane and their chute fails to open. But it was their choice to take that risk. When the parachute malfunctions in mid-air, it’s too late to call off the jump and ask for a do-over. In a similar way, it’s wrong for a woman to kill another life rather than to take responsibility for the risk she implicitly accepted. And if she doesn’t believe it is a life, then why does she have to have it killed?
Does one have to wait for the correct time to witness?
You would stop the sharing of ANY of the word?:
Would we have to let Fonda talk?
Did anybody notice that neither Obama nor McCain answered Rick Warren’s question during the Saddleback Forum? Rev. Warren asked when a baby acquires human rights. Obama was probably thrown off by the rights vs. life beginning and stammered and stuttered before the “above my pay grade” answer. McCain replied that life begins at conception - leaving everyone to assume that beginning of life = acquisition of human rights.
I think the abortion debate should be framed this way. The debate should be about when a baby’s right to life trumps a woman’s right to not continue the burden of her pregnancy. Obama’s assertion about one of his daughters being “punished with a child” is nonsense. In this country, today, no woman has to keep a child - there are plenty of agencies that will help with adoption and several states that allow a woman to drop off a child with no questions asked.
One of the arguments I have heard from pro-abortion people is this business about an unwanted child. No, it is a choice between terminating the existence of a zygote/fetus/child versus the “burden” of continuing a pregnancy.
Rob, Scripture tells us that we should speak the truth in love. Do I need to explain why your type of sharing doesn’t?
Good night. Blessing and peace to all - yes, that includes Rob.
My question still stands.
We know Oblahblah voted in favor of infanticide three times. What issues were before him that were so tough he had to vote PRESENT so many times?
Ezekiel 23:19-20 (New International Version)
19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
I agree with Wayfaring Stranger…what does this verse have to do with anything? It is a strange one to have as a favorite. Can you explain why you like it so much? I am truly curious!
2008 is a truly historic year…
As a life-long conservative woman, I am completely in awe of what is happening. I’ve known many lay-women in my life who believe as I do… this is the first time I can think of that conservative, God-fearing women are in the national spotlight with the ability to truly shatter the myths that NOW and modern feminists have crammed down America’s throat since before I was born (in 1970).
Sarah Palin has brains, guts, and beauty (and yes, I’m afraid that beauty still matters to some more than brains do). Gianna Jessen is a beautiful woman with a beautiful soul, and the truth of her very existence cannot be denied or trivialized!! Would that I (or any of our elected officials) owned a mere fraction of her courage and faith!
It may not always seem so, but it is a great day to be an American. I have always been proud, but lately I am ready to burst with it!
God bless Gianna Jessen, and her fantastic family, and God bless America!!!
I’ll wait in line to whizz on Fonda’s grave. I’ll buy tickets. Whatever it takes.
#39-Papa…I have never heard the argument framed so profoundly, and right. Your analogy of the mortgage is airtight when you put it that way. The sad thing is (and will continue to be) that the left will continue to say we should have a choice no matter the decisions we make along the way. So, as they will put it, kill the “mistake”…but, for example, one makes a rash judgment to, ooh say, kill someone, they want to protect their life. This is, BTW, one issue that has not been raised…yet.
Hero/Baracuda-08
Actually, I can understand how half the country can’t see through Obummer. They’re as weak and spineless as he is. They’re convinced that he will bring about a “new course” but he really never gives specifics. People who suport Obummer have decided to sign over control of their lives to the government. To them, government is the savior.
I think many are supporting Obummer to “right” the personal wrongs of that evil Bush guy (/sarc) while for others it’s about their cherished sacred cows abortion and gun control. For others, it’s race and electing the first black president. Then there are others who want as many freebies as they can get under this guy.
A word to those who think abortion is ok in the case of rape or incest..
Twice, my family has adopted children whose conception occured due to rape. Rape and incest are horrible, horrible things! But not the fault of the life that has begun to grow. I can attest to the fact that my two youngest children are here for a reason!
Each of these little ones of mine has gifts that I know will make a difference in this world. My son is a 2nd grader who is many grade levels ahead in math, science and reading. How wonderful for us all that his birth mother was brave, noble and selfless. She gave him a chance for life and she gave all of us someone who someday may find a cure for horrible diseases.
My daughter is not yet 2yrs old, but already she shows great talent in art and is a mini-diplomat, perhaps with all the older brothers she has, she will be the next Sarah Palin. I can’t wait to tell my daughter what a strong woman her birth mother is and I certainly have the proof of it.
My long-winded point is that life is precious. No matter what the cirumstances of a conception, that life has worth.
happyscrapper, my first response was an attempt to subtly rebuke Rob for not being mindful of the passage I quote in the second, that we speak God’s truth in love, because it’s fairly easy to guess that he was referring to Hanoi Jane with that passage from Ezekiel.
And while I still bear hard feelings for Fonda’s traitorous junket to North Vietnam, such sharing from God’s word is what gives those who oppose Christianity the ammo to call us hateful. That is a trap I try not to fall into.
God’s truth speaks powerfully enough without us lowering ourselves to ad hominem attacks on people like Fonda.
I agree with you. No child should be punished for the sins of the father/rapist. I did not intend to infer in my previous post that terminating a pregnancy due to rape was the right thing to do. If I faced such a choice, I would not do it or encourage anyone else to do it. Half of the child’s genes do not come from the rapist. So I would choose to see the glass half full rather than half empty.
However, I do not feel it is my right to judge a rape victim on this issue either. Only God can judge in a situation like this. I think a rape victim should be encouraged to bring the baby to term and then either keep it or put it up for adoption. She should also be provided with any help she may need to do so.
But if she chooses to terminate the pregnancy early on, I would disagree with her decision, but I do not think the law should punish her for it. I would leave that up to God’s judgement.
Breaking News:
Praise God!
Senator Barack Obama has a 100% rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood, whereas his positions are 100% supporting abortion on demand with NO restrictions. In fact, he had told Planned Parenthood directly in a speech on July 17th, 2007:
“The first thing I’d do as president is sign the Freedom Of Choice Act.”
FOCA will strip any and all restrictions on abortion that have helped to reduce the number of abortions slowly but gradually over the decades.
Senator Obama made a statement last night on the abortion topic that, and I paraphrase, he “supports limits on late term abortions / partial birth abortion”. He made himself look like he was trying to find common ground on the abortion topic and likely scored points with viewers of the debate.
NOT! That is hypocrisy at its utmost when LIFE is at stake. He consistently is against ANY and ALL restrictions on abortion as consistent with his 100% rating form NARAL and Planned Parenthood and support for the Freedom of Choice Act.
See my blog that tries to take a Christian / Catholic point of view on this election. It’s my “layperson’s journey” to the Catholic Church challenge its faithful in “Forming Conscience through Faithful Citizenship”.
http://blog.iowacatholicvote.com