The story behind the Palin e-mail hacking
I mentioned an infamous group of hackers whose Internet bulletin board was the gathering place for those who bragged about and publicized the Sarah Palin private e-mail hacking.
A tech-savvy reader who monitors the hackers’ site e-mailed me a detailed explanation of how it went down, who was responsible, and how someone with a conscience warned a friend of the Palin family of the crime (language warning):
I missed the original incident, but monitored the discussion and repostings afterward to see what I could learn about what had happened and who was responsible.
There are several misconceptions and errors in most accounts of this story, including your post. Most significantly, the perpetrator(s) were not members of an infamous group of hackers. I don’t blame you for misunderstanding this, because in all the media coverage regarding the war with Scientology the media has completely failed to explain what Anonymous is.
Anonymous is not exactly a group. It is people using the umbrella of a web discussion board for cover to be as offensive, funny, strange, or whatever as they want.
Here’s the short version: there is a site called 4chan.org. It is an image posting site based on a popular Japanese site. The site contains multiple boards, each of which is dedicated to a particular subject. The most notorious of these boards is called /b/. /b/ is the board dedicated to random images. /b/tards, as its denizens are called, are interested only in their own amusement. Their sense of humor runs the gamut from sick to cruel to merely strange. Lolcats, as made famous by http://www.icanhascheezburger.com, originated on /b/. A lot of memes start there. There is a lot of racist humor — pictures of excited and happy black people in proximity to fried chicken abound. There is a lot of pornography. Sometimes it’s child pornography, although posting that is moderator grounds for banning — no, it’s not a pedophile ring; /b/tards post it because they think doing so is funny.
4chan does not log participants. Most people don’t use or have usernames, and post instead as “Anonymous.” And every so often, a number of /b/’s anonymous denizens decide to make somebody’s life hell. Sometimes it’s a random person who offends /b/’s sense of propriety. Sometimes it’s a forum dedicated to a serious topic. Sometimes it’s Scientology. And Tuesday, it was Sarah Palin. Or it would have been.
Sarah Palin’s email account was hacked by one person. Not a group.
This person read her emails, then posted the username and password on /b/. This happened at about 4 in the morning on Tuesday. The idea was that the sea of Anonymous /b/tards would download the emails, upload porn, and cause all manner of mischief. Anonymous is not a group of hackers. Anonymous is more like gremlins. They are hyperactive adolescents in search of amusement and joy, which they often get by upsetting people and making messes. That’s what was happening here. Anonymous did not hack the account. A hacker tried to throw Sarah Palin to Anonymous. Not all of Anonymous was having it. One person threw a crowbar in the works. Other /b/tards were displeased to miss a chance at the lulz. The moderators stepped in. The thread was deleted.
Later, other individuals created threads reposting screencaps of emails and the inbox, and put together a collection of these files. All mentions of these were purged by the moderators. So then some bright /b/tards decided to email what little stuff they had to the media.
That’s pretty much it.
This afternoon, in a thread that was later deleted, an individual claiming to be the original poster gave his account of what happened. I’ve attached screencaps. Here’s the text. The original poster used the name “rubico.” The linked email address for the poster was rubico10@yahoo.com.
This is what rubico said:
rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:57:22 No.85782652
Hello, /b/ as many of you might already know, last night sarah palin’s yahoo was “hacked” and caps were posted on /b/, i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.
In the past couple days news had come to light about palin using a yahoo mail account, it was in news stories and such, a thread was started full of newfags trying to do something that would not get this off the ground, for the next 2 hours the acct was locked from password recovery presumably from all this bullshit spamming.
after the password recovery was reenabled, it took seriously 45 mins on wikipedia and google to find the info, Birthday? 15 seconds on wikipedia, zip code? well she had always been from wasilla, and it only has 2 zip codes (thanks online postal service!)
the second was somewhat harder, the question was “where did you meet your spouse?” did some research, and apparently she had eloped with mister palin after college, if youll look on some of the screenshits that I took and other fellow anon have so graciously put on photobucket you will see the google search for “palin eloped” or some such in one of the tabs.
I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on “Wasilla high” I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower…
>> rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727
this is all verifiable if some anal /b/tard wants to think Im a troll, and there isn’t any hard proof to the contrary, but anyone who had followed the thread from the beginning to the 404 will know I probably am not, the picture I posted this topic with is the same one as the original thread.
I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family
I then started a topic on /b/, peeps asked for pics or gtfo and I obliged, then it started to get big
Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this shit ever got to the FBI I was fucked, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapidshit all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state
Then the white knight fucker came along, and did it in for everyone, I trusted /b/ with that email password, I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the douchebaggery, good job /b/, this is why we cant have nice things
The “white knight fucker” was the /b/tard who thought that going through Sarah Palin’s email wasn’t cool. He logged in, changed the password, and sent an email to a friend of Palin’s warning her and letting her know the new password. Unfortunately, he then posted a screenshot of this email to let the other /b/tards know their fun was over. He failed to blank the password, and they all tried to log in and change the password — which tripped the automated Yahoo! freeze. Since then, the account has been deleted. “Rapidshit” refers to rapidshare.com — i.e., rubico wanted to download the emails, put them into one file, and put that file up on rapidshare for /b/tards and the world at large to download. But he panicked, or didn’t know how to download the emails, and so pawned that task off on Anonymous, which he didn’t realize wasn’t monolithic and in his favor.
As Paul Harvey would say, “And now you know…. the rest of the story.”
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Me? Not much longer.
This part would be entertaining if it wasn’t so pathetic and hapless as also, reckless:
It’s not only strong passwords that matter, but obviously as this tale tells, it’s those “answers” to those “security questions.”
Which is why those two areas should never make any sense. If you escape logic in those answers, bypass logic altogether, there’s nothing for anyone to piece together based upon actual life information.
How much of that is from porno-spam? I bet a large portion of it is.
Right after they read the perpetrator his rights, they need to ask him whether he prefers the taste of feathers or foam rubber. Only proper to make sure the pillow he is going to be biting for the next 5 or more years agrees with him…..
I read the Gawker post and the comments. The defense for post seems to stand on the possibility the Governor used the account for State business.
Their premise is false and they knew it was before they posted it. The hacker said as much in his narrative.
So Denton and his crew knew before they constructed the post that there was no state business within.
They are screwed and know it. Maybe not as screwed as the kid who hacked the account but there will be a fair amount of scrutiny coming their way.
Advise people include these in .htaccess file:
SetEnvIf Referer 7chan\.org ban
SetEnvIf Referer ebaumsworld\.com ban
SetEnvIf Referer gawker\.com ban
SetEnvIf Referer 4chan\.org ban
What, Gawker is now the judge, jury and Special Prosecutor of Governors’ private email use?
Gawker’s grabbing at a pathetic straw, trying to come up with whatever might sound right but everyone else recognizes it isn’t.
And from the content that they posted from Palin’s account (emails), there’s nothing in there that Gawker can even TRY to point to to justify it’s woeful, stupid excuse.
Ahh, the new American Left…
The same ones who go ape sh*t over the Patriot act, Bush and evesdropping!
I would think it important to express appreciation for the ‘White Knight’ in the group. He tried to do the right thing, in an environment that is pretty hostile to it.
The leftists are actually trying to justify this outrage as a hunt for nonexistent communication of nonexistent criminal activity that Palin might have participated in while in office.
Hmmm…this from one of “rubicon”‘s websites, about himself:
He’d be 20 years old now…
If that statement is true (who can say from online personna’s alone), then “rubicon” is on shaky ground even before the whole “fear the FBI” part.
Best line of the evening:
Rove: Alan, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Bird–
Yes, I posted that earlier in the thread.
There’s also a TN state representative with a son bearing that name.
I AGREE. I had the very same reaction to “White Knight F—–”. That they’d also then email a friend of Palin’s to advise of the situation was very considerate, indeed.
Aaaiiiieeeee….
I also don’t buy the whole “it was an idiot/disturbed kid who did this” excuse. More like a useful idiot, but still a useful one.
We need to follow up on this lead we have via “bird”. Anyone find anything else on rubico10? The fact the potential hacker’s father is a Democratic legislator is just too precious.
Rubico10′s YouTube Page. There’s a video uploaded (the profile lists his age as 20 as well) of him playing the guitar.
OTOH, this might also be our “rubico”
Note the reference to “lulz” and “under proxy”
The screencaps show that rubico used Ctunnell
http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User:Rubico
amerpun–
Just click the links I posted earlier in this thread
And check out this rubico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rubico
Note the membership in the “Project Chess” group.
Our David K. plays chess
I strongly recommend Sarah Palin either read Kim Komando about strong passwords. Kim has some very good ideas.
Microsoft.com (Security) also has good advice on making strong passwords, and provides a password tester.
If she doesn’t use those sites then she should get a good random password generator program and use it.
Since the Federal law for this is only a misdemeeanor with a 1 yr. sentence, the State of Alaska need to take this and put each person responsible in the State Prison for the maximum of 5 yrs. with no parole.
Now, all we need is some to PROVE that Yahoo! doesn’t USE Times New Roman on its Inbox listing page, and you’ll have proved the WHOLE THING IS A FRAUD!
I have two words for you Mighty Malkin Mousketeer Detectives: Jamil. Hussein.
Next?
(I hope, amidst all this gnashingeth of teeth and rentingeth of garments, you’ll also call for the prosecution of Governor Palin, who it appears was breaking the law by sending and/or receiving official state business via an unsecure, non-governmental server, thereby circumventing the FOIA…
And misdirecting, ad hominem attack in three… two…)
Three more words for you: Scott Thomas Beauchamp.
The hacker himself said he read every email and found nothing incriminating. Besides, would this even be accepted as evidence in a court? It was obtained illegally.
well, the tin foil bedwetter contingent has weighed in.
There is no issue in using a personal e-mail account.
First, a subpoena can and usually does cover multiple addresses – the language usually reads something like “any and all electronic communications pertaining to”…You are not looking at one sourse, but everything from all sources pertaining to a certain subject.
A FOIA request, as you may not know, is nothing like a subpoena. Any sensitive information is typically protected from disclosure. And in almost every case, if something is indavertently contained in a personal e-mail it winds up in an official communication somewhere along the line.
Second, States, much like most corporations, have strict policies against using government or company facilities for personal matters. In a corporation, it is grounds for termination. With government, it is grounds at least for an ethics violation and often times dismissal.
To avoid even the appearance of abuse, most government and corporate officials use both business and personal e-mail accounts. And if there is any question as to whether it is an official or personal matter, prudence dictates it be treated as a personal matter. Better to error on the side of personal business than to inadvertently violate written policy or regulation.
In this economy, it is difficult to find a safe area for your investments. based on some of the comments here and eleswhere, I’d recommend going into the tin foil market. Looks like a booming business!
Read the post above OMU, or have someone read it to you, there is an admission that the hacker wanted to find something incriminating against her, but he admitted he did not.
That would only matter if she were a liberal Democrat. As a conservative Republican, she must be guilty of something, no matter whether they have any evidence or not.
I’m remembering the scene from Wargames where they come and pick up Matthew Broderick. But this kid’s adventure isn’t going to end with a happy, anti-nuclear tic-tac-toe game.
I’m suggesting a new screen name for rubico: 1sc3wdd00d
Actually you’ll have to share your words with the Secret Service and the FBI, Laddie, but they’ll be talking to a lot of Obamites on this so ya will have to wait a bit.
Since he has as much existence in the real world as the tooth fairy and Santa Claus, give us a shout when you see him! The Democrat-Obamite responsible for the Emailgate break-in, OTOH, will be quite easy to find since 1) Unlike “Jamil”, he actually exists and 2) he used typical Obama “uh…um…uh…above his paygrade” logic in thinking he could hide behind a proxy:
“The 25-year-old webmaster and entrepreneur is the operator of Ctunnel.com, the browsing proxy service used by the group that hacked into the vice presidential candidate’s personal email account and exposed its contents to the world. While he has yet to examine his logs, he says there’s a good chance they will lead to those responsible, thanks to some carelessness on their part.
“Usually, this sort of thing would be hard to track down because it’s Yahoo email, and a lot of people use my service for that,” he told El Reg in a phone interview. “Since they were dumb enough to post a full screenshot that showed most of the [Ctunnel.com] URL, I should be able to find that in my log.”
==
The only remaining question on Emailgate then is:
“What does the Obama campaign know about the Email break-in and when did they know it?”
Grrrr,,,, Freedom of Information act only covers FEDERAL comunications, not STATE… that would have to be covered under STATE law.
But please, don’t let the law get in the way of your silly accusations…
29Victor–
I remember that scene, too.
In fact, 4chan surfers have a cutesy name for that black van.
They call it the “partyvan”
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=partyvan
They may have located the guy in Memphis, Tennesses. But I will not list the guy’s name; to do so would be to deny him the privacy he criminally took from the Palins. But it doesn’t keep one from listing things that are known about him.
I can see how it all goes down from here on……
“Dudes, you’re never going to believe it!! I was sitting here watching German porn and reading Sarahs emails for the 50th time…. and then get this!!!
These really cool dudes came blasting through my front door with badges and flashbangs and all!!
They said I won like this free all-expense trip to Eastern Kansas or something. I think they said Leavenworth??? Anyways I’ve got like 15 years of free time to chat with you guys…… so come visit me sometime!
CALL ME!!!!!! “
I posted an image of the 12chan party van back in comment # 25 (I think it’s #25). The chan sites have have been long known for hosting illegal content, to say they have a well-deserved “bad reputation” would be a massive understatement. If this leads to them being permanently shut down, they will have done themselves and (more importantly) the world a great favor in committing the Emailgate crime.
Can anyone say ‘Vince Foster’ ?
Many on the posts have it wrong – he didn’t crack a password. If the confessor is to be believed, he simply used the “Lost Password?” function available on anything online that uses a password function. Most security questions are so general and obvious anyone who knows you can answer the questions correctly.
The problem here is the product of bad parenting. A collection of uneducated, irresponsible delinquents willing to do anything to have a good time. By his own admission the confessor didn’t think about the risk until well after committing the crimes. One may have committed the crime, but many aided and abetted. This is the product of a the left’s public schools. Young adults rotten to the core mindlessly committing crimes.
purplepeep said:
Note I used the plural, Squeek – chan sites – there’s a stinking pile of them, the only difference is the number in the domain. But if ya been around long enough you already knew that, lol. The people who run the chan sites deserve a lot of “attention”. Hope this incident helps them get it!
#122 Texhoma:
Strength of the password doesn’t matter. They got in through the “I forgot my password” recovery option, which asked questions he was able to find online.
purplepeep–
Yeah. /b/ is just the most notorious. But there’s a gaggle of ‘em.
They got their close-up in this story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html
Since much of Palin’s bio is public, it provides clues. e.g. for hint questions like “Where were you born?”, “Your mother’s maiden name”, etc. For questions like that I make up something like – Birthplace: North Upchuck, Bosnia or Mother’s maiden name: Nibwhatgubble. But most people use real info.
Nah. If we’re talking about a 9 year old I would tend to agree. But when a person is an adult, s/he is the one who is totally responsible for what they do, good and bad. I know many folks who had awful parents but who are fine people. Conversely, I’m sure you know of people who had great parents and family, but they still turned out rotten.
Hadn’t seen that story, thanks.
What’s kind of sad/funny is how you can be googling, looking up some info, using the most innocent of terms and end up on sites that were not what you were looking for.
Also, misleading keywords and metatags can getcha if you don’t check out a site’s description first!
And that my friends is the sound of the Left getting pwned.
Can the same be said about any other politician’s private email account?
Someone does this to me, I’m going hunting for them. Personally. And live in person.
They don’t seem to realize there are logs, RADIUS and other things that let you cement an IP to a physical location and a person responsible for it.
I hope they land these anarchists in the slam for a long time in PMITA Federal Pen.
And note_ these are not teens, these are typical early 20′s to mid 30′s types.
I say roast them all, every last one of them (those who participated in the invasion of privacy). Throw the book at them, hard.
So how many hours will it take for the feds to get to this guy?
A whole day has passed and Obama hasn’t said a word of condemnation about this. More evidence of what a coward he is.
Makes me feel much better that I answer “In case you lose your password” questions with nonsense. Make up one nonsense phrase and always use it. “Ilikemoldybanannas” for instance for mother’s maiden name (and any other question).
It’s good practice even for non public types. A stunning amount of ID theft is perpetrated by someone the victim knows well enough to get a good start on these questions.
change.
it is a shame that Bush is so scared of Democrat criminals.
On September 17th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, unseen said:
“unseen” provides insight into the mind of unhinged left an the “unseen” power brokers who are trying to manipulate a U.S. Presidential election.
For quite some time, long before the events of the last 5 days, the MSM has been trying to trumpet the story that the economy is issue #1. Time magazine even made it their cover story (again, before the events of the last 5 days).
Issue #1 is who will be the next President and nominate the next Supreme Court Justices. On that issue, McCain-Palin wins. On that issue, both Obama and Biden voted against the confirmation of both John Roberts and Samuel Alito.
I strongly believe that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, his buddies at the Federal Reserve, and George Soros all want to re-create the crash of 1929 and crown Obama the next FDR.
Milton Friedman won the 1976 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences “for his achievements in the fields of consumption analysis, monetary history and theory and for his demonstration of the complexity of stabilization policy”. Friedman showed how the actions of the Federal Reserve actually led to the stock market crash and then turned a recession into the Great Depression.
Obama needs a crisis in order to have any chance of getting elected…
“unseen”, I want to update my last comment and say that you are not part of the unhinged left, it’s just that your comment was in agreement with their thinking.
Whereas the following comment is in agreement with most of our thinking…
On September 17th, 2008 at 7:46 pm, unseen said:
Sarah Palin is squeeky clean.
The hacker is slime and is going to jail.
Looks like we now have a name to go with the email address.
AKGoldRush over at LittleGreenFootballs.com unearthed who rubico is in this thread (it’s not the topic of the thread so just do a search for the name to find the posts in question…but he outs rubico10 in post #873).
rubico10
David Kernell
rubico10@yahoo.com
20
Memphis, TN
amateur chess player
son of democratic state 93rd district senator Mike Kernell (Tennessee)
The password he chose for Palin’s email was popcorn. Get it? Popcorn? Kernell? How very clever of him.
And apparently, someone’s even updated his Wiki page with this info! (It’s been deleted but is still viewable in the history tab).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rubico
Yahoo should be investigated. We all know that their people are mostly leftards.
Can’t wait to see the smoking cinder of Gawker after the Secret Service, Treasury and IRS are finished with them.
Go directly to jail. Do not Pass Go. Do not collect $200.
It’s just more mud. On Fox last night everyone on Greta’s show was like “well, of course it’s wrong, but if she did use her private account for government business…” There was no presumption of innocence by anyone. No outrage at the crime committed. They were practically salavating at the thought of finding something to finally pin on Sarah.
It won’t stick. Why is it so hard to believe that Sarah Palin is exactly who she presents herself to be?
On September 18th, 2008 at 7:23 am, TxSkirt said:
That’s not the point to them. In fact that is exactly what they are afraid of.
So it sounds like this lone hacker left enough of himself on the internets for regular people like us (with varying degrees of internet search capabilities) that there is no way he won’t be caught. I personally can’t wait.
All this PDS from the left is so gross.
Oh I think they will comply. Criminals are not protected “sources”. These AP collaborators will be brought to heel.
Somebody will swing for this one.
The Internet-challenged old geezers that Barry makes fun of will not find this amusing, and rightly or wrongly they will loosely tie him and his gang of thugs to this sort of act.
Still waiting for Barry to issue a statement condemning this…
Morally challenged liberal – that’s good! I’m going to borrow it.
Perhaps they can’t conceive of a politician that actually lives honestly. After all, none of theirs do.
Not only am I careful what I put on the internet, I’m equally careful as to where I visit. My internet world is very small and I like it like that. I do not buy into the latest fads. Could careless what bored adolescents (mentally or chronologically) decide to thow out there and call “cool.”
Sqeek, I know, it’s pretty sad isn’t it? /b/tards just can’t take anything in life seriously. They also put V& for “vanned” like it’s some kind of big joke. A couple of hours in the slammer would do wonders for these guys.
You know I wouldn’t even care so much about this hacking email business, so long as it wasn’t too malicious… I can kind of see how some people could find it fun or amusing. People are going to do what they’re going to do. It’s the posting of obviously underage girls that means that site should be shut down. They say they take them down but as soon as they’re up it’s too late.
I seriously believe these people are socially stunted. They’re reality has everything to do with their life on the internet. Actual interaction with people isn’t part of their lives. I think you are right – thow them in the slammer and they can get a crash course on how to get along with your “neighbor.”
Whenever I read about people like these hackers I get an overwhelming fear for our culture. What made them the way they are? There are so many beautiful things they could do with their lives. It is such a wast.
Family Man – our culture is dominated by immoral, baby killing, unbelieving (in anything), irresponsible hacks. I don’t think anything is new when you put it in context of the past 2000 years. It’s only new to us. Pray lots!
Agreed. I remember it being said that irony died with 9-11. Not so. /b/tards and trolls are the metastasization of irony.
I definitely agree with the first part: their detachment from human costs astonishes. But I wonder if jail (which they certainly deserve) might end up making them more malevolent. I just think, when people don’t get an “empathy circuit” by a certain age, that’s all she wrote.
D.I.T.T.O. – sad but I agree.
If they were my kids they would be sent for “time out” after which an apologize to the people they hurt would be next. We’ve lost the civility we once had.
If their older, I just want to slap them around
Interesting…
rubico10′s youtube space appears closed now
link
This guy’s hosed.
The phone call will do him in.
At least some good will come of this, he can teach morons how to play chess in prison before he gets to his girlfriend duties… rofl.
I can’t believe anyone has the friggin’ time to do this stuff.
Why can’t they get a job & work 40 or more hours a week?
Welcome to No Responsibility/All Entitlements/All the Time! (and sometimes on Sundays)
Can’t wait for the Frog March.
That should be the fun the original hacker was looking for.
He’s probably one of the 300 Obama campaign advisors
This a true story
On a game reserve in Kenya, 30 young (teenage) elephants we moved to a new location. Within two years they had arbitrarily destroyed a portion of the park including their food source. The wardens brought in two adult bulls. Within six months the destruction by the adolescents had stopped.
WHERE ARE OUR BULL ELEPHANTS?
So not only did this “genius” hack a private email without protection, he then proceded to tell everyone about it using his own email address.
WOW. No the smartest Obama supporter.
I read today where Brad Pitt is donating huge sums of money so gay people can get married…need I say more about our society. That’s his big issue, that’s what moves him… this “adult” male.
Chess? How retro. He will bring a fresh new skill set that he can pass on to his new friends. Communal showers will now be the highlight of the day, with the new computer game called “hide the mouse”…
BAD IMAGE FOR THE DAY
Nothing will be done about this. It is the God given right for liberals to do as they please. For the rest of us it would be a crime.
jangar said #109:
Exactly. The liberals actually do what they falsely accuse Conservatives of doing.
No, that’s the thing about it: this guy seems like he left himself completely exposed online by using the same user-name at numerous accounts. At least according to my theory. Not smart.
But that goes to a point techgeeks have made: rubico shouldn’t be called a “hacker,” since that implies 1337 (=elite) computer skillz.
All rubico did (according to Michelle’s emailer) was use Yahoo’s “password reminder” function plus public information to get “reminded” of the password. Common sense, once you think about it.
He can call himself anything he wants in jail. I recommend susan.
LULZ
This is one exciting thread! I’m honored to be with so many tech savvy people here. Really!
OK, here’s the big however… I don’t assume the FBI is in front of this (ahead of you all) and I do hope I’m wrong..But…You know, the ‘not invented here‘ syndrome. Also don’t most of the people inside these gov’t. agencies lean Democrat?
You guys need to keep pushing this so it gets into the MSM and forces the enforcement agencies to do their jobs….I’m so impressed! Really!
FamilyMan wrote:
Back in ancient Israel, as is recorded more than once in the Book of Judges,
Now we have ad campaigns telling us, Just Do It!.
We see the made-up word truthiness coming in number one at Merriam-Webster’s Words of the Year 2006:
We have public schools where students (and teachers) are ostracized for exercising their constitutionally protected freedom of religion, where children are taught to feel good about themselves rather than how to read, write (using proper grammar), or employ critical thinking skills.
On one hand parents are told to be more involved in their childrens’ lives, on the other, that they have no say in how or what those children are taught in our publicly funded schools.
Much as I hate to admit it, Michelle O was on to something when she said that, as a nation, our souls are broken.
But she was so very, very wrong about who we need to save us.
Wayfaring, that’s a deeply important question.
What makes a troll a troll?
I’ve read the NYT article I linked above a few times, and I really dunno.
My only guess: for some people, empathy tapers off when a computer screen screens them off from human consequences. It’s like a video game to them. They don’t see that there’s a real person at the other end of that “lol, pwned!”
That’s frightening.
Yes… you are screwed.
Quite probably true. But there have to be other factors that come into play.
I’ve encountered all kinds of people during the few years that I’ve been active online, and as often as not, there is an overall lack of civility – no doubt fostered by the relative anonymity gained by the use of pseudonyms rather than real names. But there are still plenty of people online who observe the rules of civil behavior.
Sadly, I’ve also seen that same lack of civility in face-to-face interactions, and it seems to be more prevalent as the years pass. Maybe that’s just my perception. But there it is.
Thanks for letting me ruminate a little.
I’m still trying to digest it, and I don’t know either.
I think one thing is clear: this kind of behavior/attitude/mindset didn’t come about overnight. It’s the result of years of what, for lack of a more precise term, I’ll refer to as bad programing – from whatever source (home, school, friends….)
Just heard on the radio, AP has refused to cooperate with the SECRET SERVICE, who is investigating this matter… When asked to turn over the E MAILS in question, they cited their 1st AMENDMENT RIGHTS, and refused… Boy, THAT’S A SHOCKAAAH!!!
the tech savvy among you are simply amazing to an old guy.
A bit off topic, but still appropriate…that hateful Canadian woman who spewed the disgusting rant against Sarah Palin and her family. I just figured out what has happened to parts of Canada. These people seem to have settled in specific areas in groups. I think they may be the offspring of those cowards who fled there during Viet Nam instead of serving their country! I visited Toronto once and found myself in the middle of the old hippie colonies from the 60′s. These people are stuck in a time-warp.
Strange underground, that Internet.
I feel like a went to sleep and woke up in the future that I’m not a part of anymore.
I find myself embracing this future. I can use the internet to follow any whim of thought my mind puts out. I can judge the relevance of any opinion out here.
But I do take steps to protect myself.
The propaganda media has changed the talking points by saying it is an official government in the very first paragraph, then changing it in the seventh paragraph. See Drudge Report for the article.
“…official govenment e-mail account…”
I say rubico’s husbands name is Mark and rubico’s new name will be Stephanie in the motel formerly called the “graybar hotel”