Voter fraud alert: Watch Virginia

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 20, 2008 12:28 PM

Lots of Virginia readers are disturbed by a report in the Virginia Pilot yesterday on loosened voter registration rules for college students. Red flagging it:

Norfolk election officials on Friday reluctantly loosened procedures for registering college students to vote after protests from presidential candidate Barack Obama’s campaign and an admonishment from state election officials.

The Illinois senator’s campaign complained that the Norfolk registrar’s policy of sending a questionnaire to anyone applying to register from a college campus discouraged students from following through. The State Board of Elections asked general registrar Elisa J. Long to halt the practice.

The Norfolk Electoral Board agreed to that but said in a statement: “This compliance is with the understanding that the Board strongly feels that by doing so, we are out of compliance with Virginia Election Laws.”

Kevin Griffis, a spokesman for Obama’s campaign in Virginia, said Norfolk’s practice was “completely ridiculous” and had “a chilling effect on voter registration on campuses.”

Obama’s campaign has been aggressively registering students in Virginia, viewed as a battleground state. Griffis said Obama “is energizing young voters in a way that’s not happened in a generation or more.”

Of Virginia’s 49,000 new registrations in August, 43 percent were age 23 and under, he said.

State law requires registrars to decide eligibility based on two components of residence: place of abode and domicile. Long said the questionnaire had been used to determine domicile and was based on suggested questions from the state elections office. Abode is address.

“The frustration is that the code says you may ask questions to help you make the determination of domicile, yet now we’re being told we cannot use a questionnaire,” Long said.

“Domicile is a tricky question; we don’t consider any one thing,” she said. Questions included whether the students pay out-of-state tuition, pay Virginia income taxes or have a Virginia driver’s license.

Long said she does not know how a student’s residency status now will be determined.

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  1. #1
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    If you can’t win on your own merits; cheat. Obama has the same qualities as a certain Chinese gymnast I know of.

  2. #2
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, txvet2 said:

    Cheating isn’t anything new for Democrats. It’s pretty much the only way they can win a major election.

  3. #3
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, txvet2 said:

    If Obama loses in spite of all their chating, they’re already getting their excuses ready. It’s all because whites are racist. I note the poll didn’t include any exploration as to why blacks are voting for Obama.

  4. #4
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, txvet2 said:

    Make that “cheating”. Lousy proofreading.

  5. #5
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, Ron Rockstar said:

    “is energizing young voters in a way that’s not happened in a generation or more”

    If they are so energized you would think a simple questionnaire wouldn’t slow them down. If answering a few questions is a problem, I really doubt they are going to pull their butts away from their X-Box long enough to go vote.

  6. #6
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, johnsteele said:

    Voter fraud is a revered Democrat practice that has been raised to an art form by the Chicago school.

    Anyone want to place a bet on the political affiliation of the person at the state elections board that made the decision?

  7. #7
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

    Yahoo is even helping lay the groundwork for “Obama lost because of racism” with the story that was the top story on their main page when I first logged onto the internet this morning.

  8. #8
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, fmfnavydoc said:

    Question – since I’m one of those “guns and bible” white, male conservatives from small town America

    Haven’t these “Rock the Vote”/College voter drives failed in the past, due to the under 25 voters failing to find their way to the polls?

    Thought so…

  9. #9
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    ACORN is also very, VERY active in Michigan. There have already been reports of “questionable” registrations here, but that THEY were doing an in-house investigation, and that any problems were “probably not deliberate.”

  10. #10
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, cirrus1701 said:

    Yep, vote early and vote often. *snicker*
    Been living near Chicago for too long.

    OFF TOPIC– Can someone please tell Brigitte Gabriel that her site for the American Congress For Truth has been hacked? Thanks!

  11. #11
    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, b-cat said:

    Cheat to win. If you still lose, cry foul and make up excuses. That’s the Democrat way.

  12. #12
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Most of those college students have no idea who Malcolm X was, or that Obama considers himself the leader of “The Joshua Generation” of black miltants, “the One” who will lead them into the promised land of “Chocolate City”. They will quite literally do ANYTHING they deem necessary to win this election. To them, the end justifies the means.

    You will never get real freedom and recognition between black and white people in this country without destroying the country, without destroying the present politcal system, without destroying the present economic system, without rewriting the entire constitution. It will be a complete destruction of everything that America supposedly stands for.

    Malcom X

    Only Malcom X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words. His unadorned insistence on respect. He promised a new and uncompromising order, marshall in its discipline.

    –Barack Hussein Obama

    Video of both quotes and much, much more.

    Watch all three parts of “It’s The Theology Stupid!” to understand Black Liberation Theology.

    Oh…but if you don’t support “Black Liberation Theology”, then you are the one called a racist!

  13. #13
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    It was proven that the ONLY way that someone could possibly create a “pregnant chad,” or anything other than a correctly-used Florida ballot in 2000 was by fraud. People took stacks of ballots, and attempted to punch them all at once. You could not make a chad not fall unless you were trying to use it incorrectly and fraudulently.

    So what was the response for all of this Democrat fraud? THE REPUBLICANS STOLE THE 2000 ELECTION!!!

    Incredible!

  14. #14
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, b-cat said:

    Here in VA on the local TV news there were complaints by “non-partisan” groups (that I’ve never heard of) about how our voting machines are substandard, and the less than ideal number of poll workers. Get ready, its coming.

  15. #15
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, FamilyMan said:

    a questionnaire to anyone applying to register from a college campus discouraged students from following through

    OH NO!
    I may have to pick a pen and answer a few question. Democracy is really really really hard/ sarc

  16. #16
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:09 pm, b-cat said:

    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, FamilyMan said:
    OH NO!
    I may have to pick a pen and answer a few question. Democracy is really really really hard/ sarc

    Yes, and inconvenient too.

  17. #17
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Pray that all corruption is exposed and prosecuted.

  18. #18
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, bedje said:

    Being in VA., I can just about gaurantee that it is from Norfolk State U. Not that there is anything wrong with that cause I surely don’t want to be branded as a racist because I happen to disagree with the dems, but that is certainly a predominately blackAfro-AmeriKan Kollege. But consider, if it was say…Bob Jones University. What would msm be reporting then? Just asking, that’s all.

  19. #19
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On September 20th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, fmfnavydoc said:

    Question – since I’m one of those “guns and bible” white, male conservatives from small town America

    Haven’t these “Rock the Vote”/College voter drives failed in the past, due to the under 25 voters failing to find their way to the polls?

    Thought so…

    True, but don’t let that lull you into a false sense of security. It really is different this time. The “Obama Youth” will be an uneducated, naive, force of Obama “sheeple”. John Kerry didn’t exactly have the same cult following.

    Again, take nothing for granted.

    I hope and pray that conservative college students are reading both this site and Hot Air, and then sharing the truth with their peers.

    Obama, like Malcolm X, wants to bring this country to its knees, and destroy everything that America stands for.

    And that’s no hyperbole. It’s the words out of their own mouths.

  20. #20
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:26 pm, Wethal said:

    They’re students, right? And they were discouraged by the activity of….answering written questions?

    How do they get graded at this place, anyway?

  21. #21
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, emjem24 said:

    I’m not surprised by this report. I live in the Hampton Roads area and Norfolk is one of the more crooked towns in this area. The politicians are crooked and the public school system is dying. How many of these students actually live in VA? You have to have a domicile of record and for most students that’s the address where their parents live, not their dormitory.

    Again… this is not shocking. Norfolk wouldn’t be around if it wasn’t for the Naval presence and the maritime industry. A lot of dregs of the black community control Norfolk where drugs, crime, and poverty are rampant. This is a city where they gave “free housing” (cough cough on the taxpayers’ dime) to the homeless.

    Welcome to the ACORN era of voting where “anybody” can vote. I’m sorry but if you don’t live in Norfolk and aren’t a permanent resident you don’t get to vote there. This isn’t rocket science… except for Dems who don’t believe in fairness and can cheat anything.

  22. #22
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, FamilyMan said:

    I’ve never been a militant but I’m drifting in that direction. It’s the old sixties radical coming out. The problem now is my devotion to our constitution.

  23. #23
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    In a totally fair election, McCain/Palin would win in an electoral college landslide.

    But the Demoncratic Socialists will go to any extreme to intimidate people and tamper with this election.

  24. #24
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    And where’s the legal challenge to this?

    Typical Obama MO – by any means necessary.

  25. #25
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, emjem24 said:

    How many of these students actually live in VA?

    How many are even US citizens? Half the students in our colleges anymore are foreigners.

  26. #26
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I can assure you that I, as an election judge supervisor in MN, will strongly enforce the registration laws , as weak as they are, in November. I have made it clear that I won’t hesitate to throw out ACORN people, or people who don’t live in the district and attempt to vouch for multiple “new” voters.

  27. #27
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I guess my question would be: Are they voting in Virginia and their home state as well? If so, that’s a felony.

    I recall a similar situation in the 2000 elections with NY residents also voting in FL.

  28. #28
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, TheHeartofitAll said:

    Commenters need to get a grip. This isn’t cheating. Sending questionaires to newly registered voters is. It’s called caging and was used in Ohio in 2004 to disenfranchise college students and voters in Democratic strongholds.

    I don’t think Norfolk is caging on purpose. Their intentions are good. But responding to questionaires is not a requirement to vote.

    Making extra requirements and then calling it “cheating” when people are called on it…that’s pretty silly, don’t you think?

  29. #29
    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, FamilyMan said:

    I knew militants such as Ayers and Angela Davis on the Berkeley campus in the late sixties. These tactics were part of their plans. The difference now is the MSM is on their side.

  30. #30
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    If McCain wins by anything more than 1%, it will be a landslide, considering the number of fraudulent votes sure to be cast in this election.

    Here in Wisconsin, our Attorney General – JB Van Hollen – is suing to bring the state into regulation with federal voting laws. Our Democratic governor, and the usual liberal suspects, are angry as hell about it.

    If Obama wins by a slight margin, we must consider the possibility this election was won with bad, illegal votes.

  31. #31
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, gco said:

    These attempts at voter fraud are hardly a recently-planned effort. The effort to steal votes this November go back to when the Hillary presidency was assumed. That turned into an assumption of an Obama presidency, which would be the same: a hate-filled, Alinsky-style Marxist as President, attempting to use the office to damage the United States. Key to doing that damage is a filibuster-proof Senate, which was the original goal of all of the attempts at voter fraud we’re now seeing. Now that McCain has the means to win, the goal is just to keep the presidency from him, and the chances are high that they will do that. However, Republican turnout should be great enough to prevent a filibuster-proof Democrat majority in the Senate, and that could be just enough to not merely prevent Obama and other Marxist-nihilists from critically damaging America, but to prevent them from sending humanity into another Dark Ages. So, if the election appears to be going Obama’s way (and the media will be sure to provide that appearance), don’t give up. Go to the polls to support Senate, as well as House, candidates who will (or who at least might) fight him, even if you have to hold your nose.

  32. #32
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, simcoe said:

    It seems like every time we hear about something like this it’s the left that’s trying to cheat.

    I may be naive but I have to believe if there is really something illegal going on the Republicans would jump on it quick. Maybe they will yet.

  33. #33
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, puhiawa said:

    Since domicile and residency must be declared to the college, the answer seems simple. Check the college record. And if the students vote in 2 States, as they fully intend, void the vote.

  34. #34
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, MrScribbler said:

    While we on the right are being polite, discussing the issues and believing that the Rule of Law will prevail, the left, with the connivance of the MSM, is actively undermining the basic tenets of our Constitution and our nation. And they’re getting away with it.

    We’re doomed.

  35. #35
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Dandapani said:

    Miami based Democratic snowbirds have been voting twice for many years. They vote by absentee ballot at their northern address and at the polls here in FL.

  36. #36
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, thea wfult ruth said:

    What’s happening in Virginia with college students is being replicated in Maryland. My daughter goes to college in Baltimore and during her second week there, she reported that in the cafeteria kids were being herded to tables where they were asked to register to vote. They filled out forms that asked for their name, last four digits of their SS#, DOB, political affiliation and – this is where it gets interesting – an address at the school. My daughter says the kids were collared and asked to write a general street number (not their dorm name or room #) and street name. She noticed that many of the kids were writing the same address on N. Charles St. How exactly will Maryland voter registration cards be delivered to these kids – or will they be delivered to them at all? They were not asked whether they had already registered to vote in their home state.

    It was troubling to me ethically in another way as well – the people who were manning the voter registration table were loud and bullying in their attempts to get the forms filled out by as many students as possible. Many kids filled out the forms just to get out the door without being loudly confronted or singled out. Everyone knew the people at the table were Obama supporters (the university’s liberal bias wouldn’t let McCain/Palin organize a voter drive in the parking garage much less the cafeteria).

    Thug tactics + Thug politics = Voter fraud in Maryland? Possibly.

  37. #37
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, b-cat said:

    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, TheHeartofitAll said:
    Making extra requirements and then calling it “cheating” when people are called on it…that’s pretty silly, don’t you think?

    Not at all. This is ascertaining eligibility to legally vote in a precinct. One must be eligible to vote. And one must be able to prove it.

  38. #38
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Can we say “Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall”?

  39. #39
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:28 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
  40. #40
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, Marauder said:

    As I understand it from my Civil Procedure professor (I’m a first-year law student), college students are not usually considered to be domiciled in the state where they go to college if all they do in that state is go to college and live in a dorm.

  41. #41
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The Illinois senator’s campaign complained that the Norfolk registrar’s policy of sending a questionnaire to anyone applying to register from a college campus discouraged…

    …the dead, illegal aliens and those who were voting in multiple precincts.

    “We haven’t had any problems with people voting in both Florida and New York, so why are voters being prevented from voting in both their colleges and home districts” the faux spokesperson asked of the 3 MSM reporters, See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. “Only a racist could object to voter fraud.”

  42. #42
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Yahoo is even helping lay the groundwork for “Obama lost because of racism”

    Robin Williams, Dem Tool was on Letterman making the same claim. If he can spell “Quinnipiac”, I’d suggest he Google it and discover that something like 78% of Americans are “entirely comfortable” with a black man as President. Robin, you’re a stooge. As usual, the left is full of it.

  43. #43
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, marybel said:

    Maybe I am just plain stupid, but isn’t the registrar of voters supposed to enforce and follow state law ? If I complain long and loud enough, can my foxhound vote too? I rescued her recently but I can prove she was born in Virginia.

  44. #44
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, graysonret said:

    Get those college students, most of whom will vote democratic, signed up, Obama. Oh, yes…don’t forget the illegals too. Don’t worry if they are legal residents, live in a dorm, or even too young…just get them signed up. Throw in a few dogs and cats too, while you’re at it.

  45. #45
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On September 20th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    And where’s the legal challenge to this?

    Typical Obama MO – by any means necessary.

    …by any means necessary.

    -Malcolm X

    Oh, by the way, the guy appearing before and after Malcolm X on that video is the new pastor at Trinity UCC.

    This is the thought process that Obama endorsed for over 20 years, and that thought process didn’t leave him when he left the church for politcal expediency.

    He, his minions, and the people pulling his strings will try to steal this election by any means necessary.

    They already did it once, to defeat the “inevitable” Hillary Clinton in the primary. It will only get worse as we approach the general election.

    Pray for all fraud to be exposed and prosecuted before the election, and prevented in the election.

  46. #46
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, bedje said:

    #40 True that! Just ask me about out of state tuition.

  47. #47
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, TheHeartofitAll said:

    thea wfult ruth, but, Maryland? Who cares about Maryland? Maryland is deep, deep blue.

    Maurauder, it varies state from state. In Virginia, one must plan on staying in Virginia. But that can’t be proven. And there’s no question that asking people to confirm that by mail will catch a lot of newly registered people who are really staying in the Commonwealth. That’s actively disenfranchising a large group of people and Virginia can’t accept that.

  48. #48
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, graysonret said:

    Get those college students, most of whom will vote democratic, signed up…

    They can sign up as many as they want, it really doesnt matter. Most college students do not have any clue what the date is. If there is a party going on, then even if it IS election day, then they will never go out of their way to go to the polls anyway.

    If the argument is, that someone should be brilliant and have a polling station AT a college party, then we dont have to worry about that either. The kids will be so toast that they will write-in/vote for the pro-marijuana legalization candiate as a joke anyway.

  49. #49
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, teachem2 said:

    Maybe I’m being a little too simplistic here, but shouldn’t all voter registrations that list dorm addresses be void anyway? Those addresses are not meant to be permanent and for most students, change every semester, so by definition they cannot claim domicile by using them.

    It’s a Saturday and after spending 4 hours at the soccer fields, my thinkng may not be as clear as usual. Please correct me if I’m wrong here.

  50. #50
    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    ITookTheRedPill said:

    Pray for all fraud to be exposed and prosecuted before the election, and prevented in the election.

    Careful what you wish for… Talk like that would cost Republicans Ohio this time, and you know you can’t win without it…

  51. #51
    On September 20th, 2008 at 3:04 pm, YTZGal said:

    Be hypervigilant about voter fraud in VA. The “progressive” blogs are hyping how they are aggressively going into low income/public housing and registering voters…I have no problem with that….but my sense is that this “registered” individuals will be voting, whether or not they show up in person at the polls.

    Causing confusion amongst the college vote is part of the strategy too…how does one verify is a student votes based on the school address, and again in the precinct of the student’s permanent/family address? Looks like the student vote could be a two-for-one proposition.

    The State of VA has run out of Voter Registration forms. If that doesn’t raise alarm bells, and we don’t challenge this, precinct by precinct, then we are sheep.

  52. #52
    On September 20th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, brooklyn red said:

    If I put on an Obama tee shirt, and go to a campus, say that I am registerering voters & pass out enlistment forms, what is the worst they could do to me??

    It might be worth it…

  53. #53
    On September 20th, 2008 at 3:08 pm, ex-expat said:

    FWIW, I was talking to a neighbor, who is a volunteer for the Republican effort here, and was told the Deomcrats have gone as far as to bring organizers from out of state to register voters and help in campaigning.

    Also had an Obama worker come to teh door earlier today sking for support.

  54. #54
    On September 20th, 2008 at 3:17 pm, Socky said:

    If the Democrats really had an agenda that was popular with mainstream America, would they have to resort to voter fraud and registering convicted felons?

  55. #55
    On September 20th, 2008 at 3:22 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, thea wfult ruth said:
    What’s happening in Virginia with college students is being replicated in Maryland. My daughter goes to college in Baltimore and during her second week there, she reported that in the cafeteria kids were being herded to tables where they were asked to register to vote. They filled out forms that asked for their name, last four digits of their SS#, DOB, political affiliation and – this is where it gets interesting – an address at the school. My daughter says the kids were collared and asked to write a general street number (not their dorm name or room #) and street name. She noticed that many of the kids were writing the same address on N. Charles St. How exactly will Maryland voter registration cards be delivered to these kids – or will they be delivered to them at all? They were not asked whether they had already registered to vote in their home state.

    It was troubling to me ethically in another way as well – the people who were manning the voter registration table were loud and bullying in their attempts to get the forms filled out by as many students as possible. Many kids filled out the forms just to get out the door without being loudly confronted or singled out. Everyone knew the people at the table were Obama supporters (the university’s liberal bias wouldn’t let McCain/Palin organize a voter drive in the parking garage much less the cafeteria).

    Thug tactics + Thug politics = Voter fraud in Maryland? Possibly.

    Wonderful Baltimore City. The city of the hidden voter precincts. Voter fraud in Maryland is nothing new. This one party blue state has more crooked politicians than most. Ask Ellen Saurbrey how she lost the governor’s election in 1994 when she was 6600 votes ahead, then all of a sudden in the middle of the night a precinct in an apartment building in one of the projects no one knew about materialized and gave Glendenning/Kennedy (Bobby’s daughter) enogh votes to put them over the top.

    They are wasting their time in registering additional voters in Maryland anyway. Maryland drank the Obama Koolaid long ago.

  56. #56
    On September 20th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, secondsight said:

    An under-reported worry is that a Venezuelan company owns the software companies that service about half of the digital voting machines. These machines as I understand it actually call into a network at the county level. The votes are then totaled.

    The network part of the software (& therefore the count from a specific machine) has been subject to problems.

    Seems like a can’t lose strategy to me.

  57. #57
    On September 20th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, deepdriller said:

    Just a wee bit of strategery here, why don’t we just have all of the conservative groups on every campus throw a massive kegger (toga’s anyone?) on Nov. 3rd?

  58. #58
    On September 20th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, deepdriller said:

    It would dovetail nicely with Ann Coulter’s “Get drunk & vote for McCain” movement.

  59. #59
    On September 20th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, Savage24 said:

    Hell thats’s nothing, here in New Mexico our total population is just at 2 million, and the Sec. of State is having 2.5 million ballots printed. The democrats accuse the Republicans of fuzzy math.Ha,Ha.

  60. #60
    On September 20th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    toga-toga-toga!

    :P
    GSP

  61. #61
    On September 20th, 2008 at 4:31 pm, nyc123me said:

    Kerry was counting on the youth vote last election, and look what happened. It always happens – you just can’t count on them turning up in significant numbers on the day. If Obama wants to rely on that, then by all means, be my guest.

  62. #62
    On September 20th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, alwaysright43 said:

    After more than a week without power (Hurricane Ike) I have now rejoined the human race!!

    My son is an out of state student at Virginia Tech. He registered to vote in Blacksburg. I don’t know anything about Virginia voting laws, but I hope my son will be able to vote, especially since he’s voting for McCain.

  63. #63
    On September 20th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, Lucifer Jones said:

    Don’t worry about it. The democrat college students are too busy getting laid to bother voting.

  64. #64
    On September 20th, 2008 at 5:41 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    That turn-out of college age ‘kids’ is what can win this election for Obama.
    It looks like Virginia requires ID.
    It says voters will be required to show some kind of ID which may cut down on some of the fraud. Without ID however, they can still vote provided they sign an ‘Affirmation of Identity’ statement. And in that case, they would then cast a provisional ballot which is not counted on election day. You can darn well bet that there will be MANY provisional ballots. Obama’s lawyers are counting on the provisionals..and I’m sure many of those young Obama supporters who live in other states/countries have been coached on showing up with ZERO ID…. Better be some on-the-ball election judges to watch over the counting of the provisionals.

  65. #65
    On September 20th, 2008 at 5:50 pm, rlwo2008 said:

    I love how leftist fascist are always saying something has a “chilling effect” when it is they who are doing it to the election officials or anyone who doesn’t agree with them. Reminds me of people claiming a “hostile work environment” when they were the ones who made it that way.

  66. #66
    On September 20th, 2008 at 5:59 pm, T J Green said:

    Democrats lie, cheat, attempt to steal an election through voting fraud?

    So natural, they do it in their sleep…

  67. #67
    On September 20th, 2008 at 6:07 pm, Dimsdale said:

    Why can’t out of state students simply get an absentee ballot from their home state and vote that way?

    How do we ensure that they don’t do both, a la the Miami snowbirds? National voting database, positive picture ID when voting. Anything else is crap.

    One person, one ballot, one vote. What is so hard about that? Oh yeah, you can’t cheat.

  68. #68
    On September 20th, 2008 at 6:17 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    How do we ensure that they don’t do both, a la the Miami snowbirds?

    I bet Obama has covered that angle too.

  69. #69
    On September 20th, 2008 at 6:40 pm, MrScribbler said:

    A trollish comment from OneMonkeysUncle made me suppress my gag reflex and look at this story.

    Despite the LA Slimes’ attempt to twist it, the Ohio situation is clearly the result of some shady voter-registration practices that the Republicans are challenging.

    It is the Dems who are yammering about “let every vote count” here — including votes cast by people who addresses don’t match up, even after follow-up cards were mailed to them.

    There should be a 50-state check on voter records. I suspect if all the illegally registered people were weeded out, Osama Obama’s vote total might be somewhere in the high single digits.

  70. #70
    On September 20th, 2008 at 6:54 pm, leepro said:

    Things that make you go “Hmmmmmmm…”

    “Of Virginia’s 49,000 new registrations in August, 43 percent were age 23 and under, he said.”

    That would be 29,070 — that’s twenty-nine thousand and seventy NEW registered voters under the age of 23…? Hmmmmmmm… :roll:

    Also…

    The Norfolk Electoral Board agreed to that but said in a statement: “This compliance is with the understanding that the Board strongly feels that by doing so, we are out of compliance with Virginia Election Laws.”

    …wouldn’t it be their responsibility to, you know, maintain compliance with Virginia Election Laws?!?!?!?

    Ummm… hello?

    8O

  71. #71
    On September 20th, 2008 at 7:03 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    ..and don’t think Obama wouldn’t run an administration this same way. Throw out rules that safeguard the process, in order to shore up power and see to it that fraud reigns and keeps out honest elections.

  72. #72
    On September 20th, 2008 at 7:05 pm, automaticslime said:

    As a former resident of Ohio, I know they are always crying for poll volunteers there–and here in Indiana, too. The shortage is so acute around Indianapolis–and the Dem elections honcho so incompetent–that the election before last a number of polling sites didn’t even open.

    The Democrat gal who runs the Indy polling managed to find and open all the polls on schedule last time around, but the lack of volunteers is still critical.

    Seems to me that a lot of us ought to be volunteering to help out with voting across the country. Maybe with a significant number of honest and wide awake Republican staff at the polls we can keep things a little more on the real side.

    It’s worth a shot. I can make the time and I’m going to volunteer, rather than leave the job to someone else.

  73. #73
    On September 20th, 2008 at 7:28 pm, elgringoviejo said:

    Just wondering….How blue would Maryland be if it were not for voter fraud?

  74. #74
    On September 20th, 2008 at 8:46 pm, American Elephant said:

    A common practice in dorms/fraternities when I was on campus: register for things such as CD clubs (where you buy one and get 10 for free) under a false name at whatever group-housing you lived in. The perps would know what name to look for on the package, but the company could never collect because there was no real person living there under that name.

    Here in Seattle, in the gubernatorial election that was stolen from Dino Rossi, hundreds of “homeless” people were listed at the same city-owned address. Again, no way to verify if these are even real people.

    Its not only out-of state residents that we need to worry about voting, it’s people at these group-residences that dont even exist.

  75. #75
    On September 20th, 2008 at 8:56 pm, Bruce said:

    STOP THE FREAKING WHINING ALREADY!

    I AM WILLING TO HELP THE ONE WHO WILL TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

  76. #76
    On September 20th, 2008 at 8:59 pm, American Elephant said:

    I should also add that during that election, a woman registered her dog to vote, just to prove how easy vote fraud is. The dog got a ballot. She wouldnt have been caught had she not gone public with it.

  77. #77
    On September 20th, 2008 at 9:05 pm, American Elephant said:

    It is not yours to “take back” Bruce. I know liberals feel entitled to everything, but you don’t own the United States, and never have. Moreover, America has always been and continues to be a right of center nation. An overwhelming majority of Americans consider themselves conservative and only a small minority liberal. If anyone is to “take back” America, it will be conservatives taking it back from socialist liberals who lie cheat and steal to get power. The only way they can!

  78. #78
    On September 20th, 2008 at 9:18 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On September 20th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    Careful what you wish for… Talk like that would cost Republicans Ohio this time, and you know you can’t win without it…

    I would like McCain to win, but you miss the MOST IMPORTANT point. The person who actually gets the most legal votes is the winner. If that is Obama that is the will of the people.

    Voter fraud is despicable, whoever does it. I don’t need to be careful wishing for that.

  79. #79
    On September 20th, 2008 at 9:22 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    Ah come on! The dead democrats have just as much right to vote as the live ones.

  80. #80
    On September 20th, 2008 at 9:32 pm, iamgman said:

    Commenters need to get a grip. This isn’t cheating. Sending questionaires to newly registered voters is. It’s called caging and was used in Ohio in 2004 to disenfranchise college students and voters in Democratic strongholds.

    I don’t think Norfolk is caging on purpose. Their intentions are good. But responding to questionaires is not a requirement to vote.

    Making extra requirements and then calling it “cheating” when people are called on it…that’s pretty silly, don’t you think?

    PLEASE NOTE: According to law, first-time voters in Virginia who register by mail* must vote in person (either on election day or absentee in person) unless they are:
    —Students
    —Overseas Citizens
    —Citizens with a disability or illness
    —Active duty members of the military or their dependents
    *Must submit along with their application either (1) a copy of a current and valid photo identification, or (2) a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck or other government document that shows the voter’s name and address. If the application is submitted without the accompanying ID, the citizen will be added to the voter rolls, but may be required to show elections officials either (1) or (2) above the first time they vote in a federal election.

    That is directly from the Fairfax County Office of Elections website located at

    I assume election law is the same throughout the state.

  81. #81
    On September 20th, 2008 at 11:14 pm, CJ said:

    Wonder if the Obama campaign would have the same concern for the poor, helpless college students if we suddenly saw a large increase of voter registrations coming out of Regents (Pat Robertson’s college in Virginia Beach) and Liberty (the late Jerry Falwell’s college in Lynchburg).

  82. #82
    On September 20th, 2008 at 11:23 pm, travlinman said:

    So if I am following the story about Ohio voters correctly, it is “cheating” for the GOP to challenge people who do not follow state election laws and make the proper changes to their voter registration after moving to a new address. This will disenfranchise voters, how? If you move and do not change your registration before the deadline, you lose the right to vote. That is how it is in my state and if you get caught or are challenged at the polls it is not cheating. Whose fault is it that you did not register in your new precinct? If you are too ignorant to know the rules, then que sera, sera. The Democrats are the biggest bunch of lying, conniving and cheating wimps I have ever seen. Am I the only one gettng sick of hearing this crap every four years?

    We started a revolution about 330 years ago over “no taxation without representation”. How about we consider a new revolution and use “no representation, without taxation “, as our motto? Would that be patriotic enough for Sen. Biden? It would be the end of the Democratic Party if it came to pass. That is a ‘fairness doctrine’ I could really believe in.

  83. #83
    On September 20th, 2008 at 11:45 pm, mattm said:

    At my school, a group called MASSPirg(Massachusetts Public Interest research group) which is heavily biased to the left in every are was in the entrance to the Dining Commons.

    As I walked in a member ran up to me, stepped in front of me and said “come over here to register to vote.” I told the member I was registered to vote already and they didn’t say anythig at went after the next student.

  84. #84
    On September 21st, 2008 at 12:52 am, iamgman said:

    I guess I should have bolded the fact that the exemption only applies to the voting in person portion of the Virginia law. The application still clearly can require proof of your information on your registration form. Fixed below.

    PLEASE NOTE: According to law, first-time voters in Virginia who register by mail* must vote in person (either on election day or absentee in person) unless they are:
    —Students
    —Overseas Citizens
    —Citizens with a disability or illness
    —Active duty members of the military or their dependents
    *Must submit along with their application either (1) a copy of a current and valid photo identification, or (2) a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck or other government document that shows the voter’s name and address. If the application is submitted without the accompanying ID, the citizen will be added to the voter rolls, but may be required to show elections officials either (1) or (2) above the first time they vote in a federal election.

    As you can see, the exemption only applies to the actual voting process.

  85. #85
    On September 21st, 2008 at 1:02 am, iamgman said:

    Thought the last porion of that sounded strange so I found the Virginia state voter registration requirements.

    For Registration
    If you are registering for the first time by mail, federal law (the Help America Vote Act) requires you to provide identification. To avoid delays, please enclose a copy of one of the following documents that shows your name and address with your application: (1) current and valid photo ID,
    (2) current utility bill, (3) bank statement, (4) government check,
    (5) paycheck, or (6) other government document. You can also present this required identification at the polls but may experience delays.
    For Voting

    Virginia law requires every voter voting in person to show identification or sign a statement, subject to felony penalties for false statements pursuant to §24.2-1016, that the person is the named registered voter.

    Also in the document it states..

    You are not officially registered to vote until this application is approved.

    So the documentation portion is a federal requirement. So Norfolk election officials are violating federal law if they do NOT request the info and proof.

  86. #86
    On September 21st, 2008 at 8:53 am, AFBen said:

    Down where I am stationed I was approached by a college-aged Obama volunteer asking me if I was registered to vote in the state. When I explained to her that I was not as I am merely stationed here and claim residency elsewhere, she asked me if I wanted to be registered here, too!

    Now, in my opinion, the Obama campaign is brilliant with this strategy of recruiting college kids to register new voters. They connect with an age-group that historically doesn’t vote and have plausible deniability when these kids break the law in registering new voters.

    Obama camp: “Hey, we didn’t know they were registering non-residents, non-citzens, their dogs and cats, dead people, etc., but it just proves the degree to which the young voters WANT Obama!”

  87. #87
    On September 21st, 2008 at 9:33 am, happyscrapper said:

    The Norfolk Electoral Board agreed to that but said in a statement: “This compliance is with the understanding that the Board strongly feels that by doing so, we are out of compliance with Virginia Election Laws.”

    Forgive me if someone else has already commented on this! If the Norfolk Electoral Board said this is out of compliance with their laws, why did they cave? All they had to do was say, no…the electoral law requires these forms. Is that so hard? How can the dems get away with this? Is anyone reporting this? O’Reilly? Limbaugh? Unfortunately, even though we have some great voices for conservatism out there, the corruption continues unchecked. We are aware of the problems, but they continue. I just don’t see why the Virginia electoral gave in!!

  88. #88
    On September 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pm, DougHagin said:

    Democrats tied to election fraud? I am shocked I tell ya, shocked!

  89. #89
    On September 21st, 2008 at 4:19 pm, missykat16 said:

    Just so you know, Liberty University is using this rule change to fuel a MASSIVE student voter registration drive (complete with voter registration forms being handed out to all eligible dorm students who want them). They are canceling classes on Election Day, busing students to the polls, having an all day election party and concert, and a returns party. I am a first year Liberty student who registered in VA, canceling my NC registration, giving me more of a swing vote. What liberals mean for evil, conservatives can use for good!

  90. #90
    On September 21st, 2008 at 4:58 pm, powerpro said:

    Read this blog post. Ignore the fact that the person thinks Bush stole the election in 2000 and is most certainly not a conservative:

    http://barbarany_9.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-vote-swiper.html

    Of note in this blog:

    Convinced that there are tens of thousands of unregistered African Americans and otherwise Democratic-leaning Virginia residents, the Democrats are trying to register 151,000 new voters before the Oct. 6 deadline. A dozen other private organizations have sent canvassers into the streets to register voters. Democrats think this is their best chance of carrying the state in a presidential election since 1964.

    Frederick said the criminal charges in Hampton prove that some groups are trying to register voters through fraudulent means. “Unfortunately, there appears to be a coordinated and widespread effort in Virginia to commit voter fraud,” he said.

    Frederick said the state Republican Party has obtained an affidavit from a Richmond woman who contends that her Social Security number was used by someone who was trying to register to vote.

    This freaks me out guys.

  91. #91
    On September 21st, 2008 at 5:00 pm, powerpro said:

    Another great line:

    They still need to pretend, however, that the voters actually did make the final decision. Obama can only use his shills in the media to get him close to the finish line. That provides the cover for when the “ground game” comes in and makes sure that the actual vote count is in their favor.

  92. #92
    On September 21st, 2008 at 5:43 pm, HeatherRadish said:

    Don’t forget the international student vote. I was at Iowa State during the 2000 election, and the folks signing up voters didn’t care if you were a citizen or not as long as you signed up to vote for Al Gore. There’s hundreds of thousands of international students on US campuses, and I know they’re not all America-hating morons ecstatic to interfere, but even the students who respect our laws can get bullied or fooled into voting illegally.

    Also that year I got two registration cards for names I didn’t recognize at my apartment the week before the election (I lived alone). I took them to the county election board. Maybe I should have taken them to the police, I don’t know.

  93. #93
    On September 21st, 2008 at 6:05 pm, 4USA said:

    Bill Maher laughed with one of his guests and said (paraphrased), “what are we to do with them (conservatives), throw them in jail?” To which his guest replied, “yes, that exactly what we should do.”

    These radicals are a new breed of degenerates spawned from the drug-induced stupor of pseudo-intellectual, college-educated zombies, that have been co-opted by communist/Marxist infiltrates within the fabric of our entire society. In other words, useful idiots.

    The one thing I envy is their determination to their cause. We conservatives have gotten what we deserve by our complacency and “tolerance.” Their side understands what’s at stake and view this election as an opportunity to win their war against our principles. They view cheating as an acceptable behavior against their only true enemy in this world…..us.

  94. #94
    On September 21st, 2008 at 8:42 pm, nostradamslives said:

    I live in Northern Virginia and have since 1990.
    I have witnessed FIRSTHAND the fact that any/every person, who steps foot on a College Campus, is being pressured/requested to not only “register” but to VOTE for OBAMA.
    The “individuals” doing the registering will not say who they are working for and when pressed they make snide comments like “must be a Republican/Conservative”.
    I recently watched, for about an hour, these same “individuals” visiting the bus stops and getting names/information from those waiting for the bus and those who use this specific corner as a “pick up” for DAY LABORERS.
    Many of the Churches here, both Catholic and the Mosques in the Sterling area, are not only PRO-OBAMA but delivering mandates about getting OBAMA elected via the “ends justifies the means”.
    Anyone who dare demands/requests/stands up for AMERICAN CITIZENS to ONLY be able to vote, in this election or any other, is immediately called a Racists and/or Anti-immigrant.
    Fortunately there are those, like me, who do not NOR will not…back down from these childest taunts designed to inflict “mental guilt/anguish/doubt”.
    OBAMA is putting a lot of money, even using those “community organizers” who go to the jails (local, state, and federal holding), to ascertain votes as well.
    As an American, not only here in Northern Virginia but around our Country, I am worried that this election will be about allowing (a) ILLEGALS (b) those who reside in other States but work/go to school here and/or (c) Non-American Citizens to steal this election.
    I ask my fellow Americans to be vigilent and use your rights (verbally, in writing, vocally, etc.) and QUESTION those who want to steal this election.
    There is a “cardinal rule”, in investigations” when inquiring about suspects, and that is “who benefits”? In this case OBAMA will benefit while American Citizens have their rights STOLEN from them…right in front of their own eyes.
    Stand up for your Country…before it is taken from you…and your children.
    Nuff said.
    J. Schrembs

  95. #95
    On September 21st, 2008 at 11:20 pm, nostradamslives said:

    What a shame that the Democrats, you know the ones that are always saying it is the “Religious Right” with all the money and influence, are having their “associates” continue to commit FRAUD and take away American Citizens…rights.
    It is “high time” that we quit apologizing, and/or “settling” for less, for this Country being (a) OVER 70% white (b) OVER 90% Christian/Jewish and/or (c)anything else that is not a “protected class”.
    In my opinion EVERYONE should be treated the SAME, excluding those who are NOT American Citizens, and for all “preferences” (which really means that unless you are a protected class you have to work ONE MILLION times harder to even get “considered”) in our laws – in our “minds” – and in Congress!
    My family is, in all probability, more “diverse” that 99.9% of America and I love/respect them all.
    I also believe that God created us all “equally” and we are all deserving of respect/appreciation/etc.
    But, in my (almost) 50 years on this earth I have seen FIRSTHAND the “pendulum” of guilt/reverse discrimination/opportunity “swing” TOO FAR.
    Whether it is FORCED BUSING, or “get out of the draft if you are in College” or “laws don’t apply if you are rich/connected”, or any other LIBERAL “experiments” that have marginalized us because of OUR skin color and/or OUR gender and/or OUR Religious Beliefs and/or OUR sexual preference.
    OBAMA is a perfect example of the “Emperors New Clothes” as, when you boil it all down, he stands for nothing and his only “power” is his words (along with his connections).
    I pray for this Country and the future for our children.
    Nuff said by J. Schrembs

  96. #96
    On September 22nd, 2008 at 11:56 am, cabrerski said:

    I do not have a problem with voter drives in colleges and universities. However, if a student from out of state registers to vote in Virginia, then they should also sign a form asking their “home” state to take them off the rolls of registered voters at home.

    I think it is high time the FEC enacts and enforces criminal laws and penalties for voting more than once. No person “accidentally” votes twice (or more).

  97. #97
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 2:17 pm, cheapseat said:

    kim jong il gets 99% voter loyalty, as does fidel castro, as did sadam, and as will chavez after he has nationalized the economy so everyone works for him. gee, did i forget to mention vladdy.

  98. #98
    On September 24th, 2008 at 8:30 am, DaveC said:

    Huh.. Today just had a piece about the University of Virginia about how they expect student turn out to be an all time high..

    but then, I’ve been hearing that every four years too..

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