“American women are so fortunate to live in the greatest country on Earth.”
Amen, Mrs. Schlafly!
The feminist tirades against Sarah are mostly so tiresome, but one line of their complaints is really funny. After 40 years of telling wives and mothers to get out of the home (which Betty Friedan called “a comfortable concentration camp”), put their children in day care (tax-funded, of course) and join the workforce, these same feminists now tell Sarah to stay home with her children.
Sarah doesn’t need feminist approval for her lifestyle; the only person whose OK she needs for her double career as mother and politician is her husband’s, and he seems very happy with Sarah.
Sarah Palin is an exemplar of a successful, can-do woman, and the feminists simply don’t know how to deal with her. I hope she will usher in a new era where conventional wisdom recognizes that feminist negativism is ancient history and American women are so fortunate to live in the greatest country on Earth.
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Criticizing without adding anything to the issue? Sorry, I didn’t know you were a troll. My bad for engaging you. It won’t happen again.
Mookie – Nasty, very nasty. People can be single for many many reasons aside from the vulgar one you mentioned. Surprisingly, life is not all about sex.
Mookie, re: Even in states where gay marriage/civil unions are legal, you cannot file your federal taxes jointly.
And that bothers you because?
I wish ALL men were gay… that would leave ME to pick up the slack with the women!
Gay men hit on me once in a while, and I just think, “Hell, I must be DAMN good looking!”
The gay part of town is the SAFEST.
I have NEVER had a gay dude in any way hurt me or insult me or insist that my taxes pay for their anchor babies.
And in the paraphrased words of Cassias Clay… “Ain’t no gay ever called me a RACIST.” Like all the Sharptons, illegals, Ghramnistys, and other panderers do daily.
You religious nuts… why don’t you focus your hate toward the REAL enemy and not the nice gay people?
Im talking about forming a business contract. You can call it the “Poriman Corporation”
Rob, your slip is showing…
Tell them you’re going to vote against Obama.
He’s the one that brought it up!
Roland, as far as your question goes, who would you file jointly with if you were single? You can find a relationship, get married and reap the tax benefits. Gays can be in monogamous relationships for decades and don’t have that option. Do the tax benefits for people with kids annoy you as well?
It bothers me because I think it’s one of the biggest reasons behind the push for gay marriage and something that’s easily fixable. If gay couples were able to have recognized civil unions and have those unions recognized when filing yaxes, I think the gay “marriage” issue would fall to the wayside.
Why, because someone may disagree are they accused of hatred?
I don’t wear a slip…
But I think your crack is showing…. getting hot thinking about gay men??? hmmmmmmmm? lol
brooklynred – I was thinking the same thing.
I don’t know too many people on this site that spew as much hate as Rob does. He reflects very poorly on conservatives.
I agree with you here. I’ve always thought that the reason the Feminist liberals were so upset about Palin was a simple matter of identity. Feminist liberals think that to be a feminist, a woman has to be more like a man whereas Palin has attained all that feminism supposedly stands for by being all that is a woman. She hasn’t tried to be something that she is not.
No Rob, you are a complete turn off… but let’s see what other stupid things you can be be baited in to saying. xoxo
Why not hate McAmnesty and his shamnisty bill that is going to give all the illegals citizenship… ?
Why bother people you never even notice?
Yeah, the nuts that run around in spandex are weird.. but that is just a few.. I would rather focus on what is going to destroy my country…
You missed the point completely, and then you covered up by attacking my sexual prowess.
The point was that the preference for marriage exists for the purpose of creating stable structures within which to raise children.
Giving the preference to gay couples just increases the discimination against single people, and for no good social purpose.
Period.
You haven’t responded to that point because you can’t.
I am VERY conservative, but not a republitard. The nuts in the republican party are as stupid as the liberal retards….
Rob, no one cares about amnesty anymore now that Sarah Palin has arrived. Did you ever think those two McCain commercials that for all intents and purposes promise amnesty (one in Spanish) would go unmentioned here except by commenters?
I don’t expect EVERY gay guy to love me.. but thanks for considering me for a moment… I appreciate you considering me even though I am straight. muah… lol
And what about straight couples who can’t have children or choose not to? Should the intention of having children be a requirement for marriage?
Gays aren’t preventing you from entering into a relationship, getting married and reaping the tax benefits.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
I LIVE in Southern CA…
EVERYTHING is in Mexican now…
The street signs are in Mexican…
The advertisements at the bus stops are in Mexican…
The checkers at ALL the stores are Mexican first and American tenth…
You are right, no one cares…
Some of us still care about “shamnesty” and won’t be voting for McCain/Palin because we don’t believe McCain “gets it” no matter how many times he says so in English. Because he always turns around in Spanish and promises amnesty. I am not stupid enough to accept the standard lies from Republicans or Democrats now.
But, I am NOT a single issue voter so that is not my only reason for not supporting McCain. I don’t accept the LOTE argument any longer. I’d like realy conservatives leading the nation. I demand real change and I won’t be getting it from the leftists in the Democrat Party or the GOP.
I predict the Libertarian and Constitution parties will take as much as 50% more votes than they took in 2004. I expect Nader and the other Greens to take more too as I think the “Watermelons” on that side of the spectrum now feel sold out by the Dems.
I suspect the person who wins this election will do so with a plurality rather than an majority just like Bill Clinton did in 1992 and 1996.
Joy said:
I don’t know too many people on this site that spew as much hate as Rob does. He reflects very poorly on conservatives.
Oh not to worry, he seems to need the attention. But he will get bored of talking to grown ups soon enough and go back to facebook…
A Pre-Palin Michelle would have eviscerated McCain for those two ads.
I know two gay couples that are raising adopted children and are better parents then MINE were….
Government regulations/laws should be simple, clear and easy to understand. What you’re suggesting would mean massive government intrusion where none is necessary. What we have works. Leave it alone.
Well, most laws are not “simple, clear and easy to understand.” There used to be a principle that if a law could not be clearly understood it could not be inforced. Used to be….
This situation will continue as long as the Federal Government spends as much as it does. The Federal Government needs to be cut drastically (50% to 75%) and power needs to return to the states the way the nation was supposed to be run….
On September 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm, Rob said:
I know two gay couples that are raising adopted children and are better parents then MINE were….
Oh, now we are getting somewhere… so was it mommy or daddy you have a problem with, or did they both reject you? It’s OK we are here to help.
So? We’re talking about the system, not some rare exceptions.
These have nothing to do with each other. Your bad parents don’t justify two same sex parents..which is a lie. Sorry if you don’t like that. A mommy and a daddy are parents. Not two mommies or two daddies. Those aren’t parents. They may be two people that care very much for a child/childrend – but they are NOT parents.
I’d like to know what that kid is doing ten years from now.
The breaking down of legal standards are destroying this country There is a “slippery sloop” for the definition for the beginning of life pertaining to abortion. The same dangers applies to gay marriage. Where do you legally stop in your definition. Law is contract composed of precise language. Why do you think partial birth abortion is being defended so vehemently? The proabortionist know if that evil practice is banned there is no stopping the definition for the beginning of life until a non arbitrary time is reach which is at conception. We conservatives understand the same applies to traditional marriage.
The safe prediction will be burying his two homosexual parents who have died of AIDS or one of the numerous STDs that afflict the “gay” community.
You’re a funny m’effer dude. Go NY.
I don’t really care if you marry someone or if gay person gets married…
If someone is a good citizen and doesn’t want to hurt me.. who cares?
Why don’t you worry about angry black gang members? Or Mexican gangs? Or the McAmnesty plan to destroy this country? Or the Obamasiah plan to tax the hell out of us?
What in the HELL does a confused gay person’s plans threaten you???
What do you call a gay couple that legally adopts a child? How the hell aren’t they parents?
You simply fail to understand the danger. President Obama is the end of the Republic. There will be no going back. It only gets worse from there.
D.I.T.T.O. FamilyMan. That’s how it starts. People use false terms to describe something (i.e. a gay couple raising a child = parents) and all of a sudden, it becomes fact. It’s an insideous practice.
Mistressjustice lives in Florida I don’t think we have to worry about that Obatard.
I don’t care what they do. I object to there being further discrimination against single people.
Mookie, just because you want them to be parents doesn’t make them parents. Sorry! We aren’t changing the definition to suit you. You described this insidious slippery slop in your post. Just because some liberal in California decided to allow two people of the same sex to adopt a child, now we have to say they are parents. That is total GARBAGE and I for one am sick of it.
He’s a Hitler reborn. He’ll end the world if prophecy is right by 2012.
Obama is a Nazi! Opps. Godwin’s Rule, must be the end of the thread.
So, what are they?
Next thing you know men and women will want to marry horses and crap.
Misscheryl
It’s not only insidious, if left unchalleged it becomes LAW.
No prophecy necessary. He doesn’t see what’s wrong with the likes of Ayers. He will appoint people like that to key positions. He will appoint judges, some of the most important sitting for life. He will create and destroy international alliances, and he will create treaties that will bind us permanently.
We’re already teetering at the brink, struggling to hang on. Losing this election to Obama simply isn’t an option.
OK, Rob, it’s OK… no one here want’s to hurt you… it’s all good. Are you on a campus by any chance? We understand that sometimes gay people are confused, it’s OK, we now you love your country, and that is good! Lot’s of people have issues with their parents, I know I did… do you own any guns? I do. Want to tell me about them??
It’s OK, we are all friends here.
Thanks Mookie. Last couple of weeks you were pretty reasonable, nice to see you are back on board with sausage, nyk, lgm and all the other troll vermin that infest this site.
Watch how fast McCain loses if he chooses the wrong side of this argument too voiciferously Mookster!
I agree with you but it looks like a lot of the zombie lemmings are going straight over the cliff.
Mookie – they are two people who wish their relationship was “normal” and they believe allowing adoption, marriage etc will make it so. If you tell a fat girl she is skinny to make her feel good about herself, she is still fat and she doesn’t feel any better about it. Git it?!
Don’t they already marry horses in Washington state? Or is it unprotected sex they have with horses?
Polygamy. If they okay gay marriages, I want polygamy. I love more than one woman. That would solve my dilemma.
What excuse is there to discriminate against me and my loved ones by giving preferences to people who don’t even make children?
From the looks of it, Bush has been the end of the Republic. He will almost certainly go down in history as the first Socialist President of the nation. He has spent in a way that would have floored FDR.
And McCain will be no better. McCain is a “big government, open borders” Republican. There might be a slight difference in timing in the eventual demise of the Republic between the two choices of Obama and McCain but that is all.
Let’s not even talk about all the adoptions between people and their pets!
It seems the Washington Post is at it again. Has anyone seen this cartoon?I just found a link to it on another site I visit and the person that posted it said:
and from WorldNetDaily:
I wonder what they will mock next.
It OK for Obama to sit in a church that preaches hatred toward Jews, Christians, and Italians with their garlic noses though.
It is okay to mock God and Christians. They think God is dead and we are not on the endangered list. All is good in DC.
That’s a weak comparison. The dictionary definition of parent is “a person who brings up and cares for another”.
You may not like it but gays who have children, whether biologically or through adoption, are parents.
Rooster, prior to McCain’s pick of Palin, amnesty/immigration was a huge issue in relation to his candidacy. After Palin, interest in amnesty/immigration has completely fallen by the wayside. Those two commercials from McCain should have been a big issue with conservatives who are against amnesty but with the exception of HotAir, there was little to no mention of them. Palin hasn’t said a single word about immigration and no one seems to care. Why the sudden change?
No they aren’t.
Maybe winning the election happened?
P.S. – Mookie, two women or two men cannot biologically have chidren. I don’t care what the dictionary says about that. Don’t let anyone convince you otherwise. Gotta be a man and a woman to biologically have a child.
That is the silliest argument I have heard to define “parenting.” Frankly, that makes the TV and the day care center into “parents.” You need to rethink your definition. It is so vague as to be meaningless.
Frankly, I suspect most of the “protect the borders” crowd has already moved on to 3rd parties or are beginning to pray for a quick and painless demise for Senator McCain shortly after he wins and preferably before inauguration day 2009.
If a lesbian conceives a child through artificial means, she isn’t a mother? Does that apply to straight women who conceive through artificial means as well?
On September 21st, 2008 at 9:38 pm, Tennessee Dave said:
It seems the Washington Post is at it again.
A. The left don’t believe in no God.
B. I do. So let me invoke the name of Rush to do earthly battle, least another, much higher name be called upon.
Mookie, Our society will go to such great lengths to get what we want. We will twist and turn things inside out because we can and then call it whatever suits us. Your analogy makes two people biologically parents – BUT they are one man and one woman. Please don’t ask me to draw you a picture.
Conceiving a child is not the same as being a parent. You are terribly confused about the act of giving birth and the act of raising children. You need to rethink your point before you really start to make yourself look silly.
Thank you, I was afraid!
Mommy says I can’t trust anyone online!
I hope that we can continue our hating of Americans tomorrow… it is soooo much fun to play “I am superior“
Mommy says bedtime!
Sweet dreams y’all.
)~
Nope. There’s just no point to be squawling about the fire on the kitchen stovetop once the whole house is going up in flames.
I don’t need to rethink my point at all. I disagree with Cheryl’s point that two women or two men cannot be considered parents. Anyone can give birth to a child or contribute to it’s conception. Raising and loving and nurturing a child to become a strong and healthy adult is a completely different thing and is not dictated by biology. If it was, all adoptive parents would just be guardians and little more, which couldn’t be further from the truth.
Rob – I am no longer a Republican, still a conservative. And I’ll say it again, you give us all a bad name.
There is no excuse to hate like you do. Anger is different than hate. Indignation is different than hate. You really need to learn the difference. Recognizing something will hurt the country still shouldn’t translate into hate. Let the lefties have hate.
Mookie, imagine what a normal American thinks everytime they hear a libtard talk about the rise in unemployment. A normal person would think, if we have so much unemployment, why allow illegals?
The media is complicit in the absence of any coverage of the illegal invasion, mostly because b hussein odumbo is far worse than Mcamnesty and they aren’t about to expose their chosen one.
Wow, so many unproven assumptions there. No one has demonstrated that two men or two women can make a child in to a strong and healthy adult. And the only way to test this is to risk ruining the lives of a lot of kids with your experiment.
The problem is that the state has stopped asking what is best for the child and focused on what the adoptive parents want or what the politically correct choice is. That is one reason so many black and multi-racial kids go unadopted. The state has decided that it is politically incorrect to have them adopted by non-blacks. They know it is detrimental to leave the kids in foster care forever but they would rather do harm to the kid than get called nasty names and be politically incorrect.
You really need to sort through your definitions. It appears you are quite emotional about this topic and perhaps that is clouding your objectivity.
Mookie, You ever hear the term, “if you put lipstick on a pig…it’s still a pig.” I’m done.
Sarah is a real modern woman with the best of old fashioned ideals. The feminists can’t believe a woman can accomplish what Sarah has without being a man-hating, abortion-loving lesbian striving to replace men in every way. The feminist movement is dead. It’s time for growth, opportunity and success for all who have the ability, drive and focus. Sarah is just in time to lead a new generation of women who are themselves, proud of being accomplished without the baggage of the old feminist hags.
Go Sarah. Show by your example that a woman can love a man, be a mother, a wife, a president or whatever her potential and desires are all at once. Let these out of date feminists wither on the vine of life as you blossom with others to follow.
Wow! Non-sequitir. Were we talking about “cosmetological concerns in the porcine community?” Sounds like a show topic for Oprah…
From Mrs. Schlafly’s article:
Precisely! This comes from another brilliant, accomplished mother of six, as well as conservative icon, hated and feared by the left for decades. Read Feminist Fantasies, for a profound perspective on the bitterness, misplaced rage, and victim mentality of the modern feminist movement. Schlafly is Ann Coulter without the insults.
I’m not “quite emotional” about it at all. I’m not gay, nor am I married. And I agree with you that the efforts to be politically correct are causing a lot of harm to kids who need parents. It’s as wrong as wrong could be. If a gay couple can provide a healthy, stable, loving home for a child, what is wrong with that? If a while couple can provide a healthy, stable, loving home for a black child, what is wrong with that? It’s absurd.
Joy said:
Rob – … And I’ll say it again, you give us all a bad name…
Joy, cast not your pearls… there is no Rob, just an anonymous blogger jerking some chains… maybe even a paid op to give us a bad name, who knows… the handle “Rob” is only to make him/her seem more personable. Don’t fall for it, for all you know he posts from Tehran… or not.
There is the point. No one knows that a gay couple CAN “provide a healthy, stable, loving home for a child” that will create healthy adult members of society.
There is a large body of evidence to suggest that is not the case. There are lots of better alternatives to gay adoption. Gay people are being given preference over other, better choices in the name of “political correctness” at the expense of the children who are made part of a huge and risky social experiment.
I don’t feel it is the state’s right to conduct these dubious social experiments on subjects who cannot give informed consent. You seem to be willing to engage in such radical experiments on the weakest members of our society.
Sorry WarEagle you didn’t catch my train of thought..oh well…
I think you and I are in agreement. I think I cut, pasted and quoted poorly.
I believe it is Mookie with whom I disagree with. But, let me know if I have overlooked something regarding your point.
Oh, the pig/lipstick thing….
Sorry. My sarcasm key is broken….
WarEagle – I was referring to my pig comment. It’s was a bit left field I fear…
I personally know of a young man (teenager) whose adoption by a pastor and his wife (who already had a son about this boy’s age) was “passed over” in favor of adoption by a gay couple (two men). This young boy has lived in a group home for years, and was desperate to be adopted and loved. His spiritual life is in jeopardy, as he no longer seems to have an interest in the things of God since this has happened.
No, you were spot on. It it my response that was “left field.”
How can you say that no one knows when children have been been raised by gay parents for decades?
Show me statistically significant numbers and longitudinal studies. No, I don’ know if this has been going on long enough to be “proven” safe.
Then, again, the same government who told us it was better to eat margarine than butter would likely make an equally reliable “study” in this case if they had one.
I am not here to change your mind. I more interested in allowing you to demonstrate how carefully you have thought through your position.
Hey, you’ll get no argument from me on the butter thing. Butter rules.
I’m not trying to change your mind either. I know that my views on gays and gay marriage/parenting are very different from most of the people here. And, of course, my views are colored by my personal experiences as other peoples views are colored by their experiences and in some cases, their religion.
Yes, our lives are colored by personal experience. I got to see 40 to 50 children molested by a single homosexual man. I have relatives who are HIV positive and are promiscuous still. I have friends who ruined their lives by acting out on their homosexual impulses.
Of course, I know heterosexuals who have complicated up their lives too.
But, the problems of homosexuality are legion compared to any of my messed up hetero friends. I wouldn’t wish that on any adoptive kids.
And I have the opposite experience. I have a friend who celebrated his 25th anniversary with his partner earlier this year. They’re the most normal, boring couple I know, straight or gay. I would trust them with my life and the life of my child in a heartbeat.
HIV positive and promiscuous is just terrifying and beyond reproach. How narcissistic can a person be? My God.
Mookie
Two parents of different genders make a more complete human structure.. The best way I can explain it, is to think of the entire world as being maintained because of the dualistic nature of reality.
Examples; There can’t be beauty without ugliness.
There can’ be skinny without fat.
No sweet without sour.
No darkness without light
No man without woman.
A child reared without the benefit of a man and a women is being denied a complete view of the world.
I would also like to point out that outside the western culture where it’s not BAD PC there has been research going on pertaining to the causes of homosexuality. There seem to be indicators that gay propensities come from an unusual mixture of father mother child relationships. If the bonding with parent becomes strained at an undetermined age and there are endocrine malfunctions at a critical time, the child will not bond with the opposite sex.
Just an observation of studies.
LOL, this blogID is named for what I used to watch from my hottub 10 years ago. My wireless access point is named for a song that was on the radio at the exact moment that I configured it a few years ago. You should see the name that I post under over on Kos….
None of it means anything. Its just an alphanumeric representation of a base two series of 0’s and 1’s….
This might be a silly thought, so tell me if I’m out in left field. Is it possible that what really upsets Feminists about Sarah Palin, isn’t that she has those kids and should stay home, but that her husband approves? Hrms…..
Wow, you were all pretty talkative while I was asleep…
Wrongo, at least in this case – Feminists For Life is feminist in the old-fashioned sense of Elizabeth Cady Stanton (who had eight children) and Susan B. Anthony, the “women are not inherently inferior to men and should not be treated as such” way.
Fixed it. Believe me, gay people want to claim people like that guy about as much as straight people want to claim straight pedophiles.
Yeah, they have. In order for it to be true that “no one has demonstrated that two men or two women can make a child in to a strong and healthy adult,” you’d have to argue that each and every kid of gay parents was weak and unhealthy. Personally, I think kids probably do best with a mother and a father, but if caring and responsible gay parents want to get more kids out of foster care, go for it, I say.
I totally agree with you on the second paragraph, though – I always thought it was ridiculous to keep kids from potential parents just because of racial differences. I’m from Minnesota, where there are Korean kids adopted by white families all over the place, and most of them seemed to have turned out fine.
Go to Zombie Time and check out the Folsom Street Fair. The gay public behavior chronicled there is all I need to know to make up my mind about gay “marriage”.
That’s like watching a Girls Gone Wild video and saying it’s all you need to know to make up your mind about straight marriage.
I’d suggest that American women do some traveling to learn how privileged they are. No other women have the rights enjoyed by American women who do the most complaining about what they think they don’t have.
I know I’m a little late to this thread but….
One fine day my wife and I took our two boys to the Dallas Zoo. As we were strolling along admiring the animals, my wife ducked in to a souvenir shop while my oldest boy and I waited on a bench out front. As we waited for mom to figure out which shirts to buy, along came these two gentlemen pushing a little boy, between 1 to 2 years old in a stroller. These two men were wearing tie-dyed outfits…shirts, shorts and even their socks were tie-dyed with all the colors of the “rainbow”. They had rainbow hats, and rainbow shoe-laces. Even the stroller was painted up in rainbows. Now, I have nothing against rainbows or anything but I couldn’t help but wonder if this was a good environment for this little guy they had in the stroller. He was done-up in rainbows as well. I’m sure at this age rainbows are great…but….what about when the boy is 13? I see more harm than good for this boy in his future.