On the Palin e-mail hacker trail
Keeping you up to date on the privacy invasion that the privacy absolutists don’t want to talk about, here’s the latest on the Sarah Palin e-mail hacker case:
A grand jury in Chattanooga could hear testimony this week into the break-in:
A Grand Jury in Chattanooga could reportedly hear testimony this week into the alleged hacking of the personal e-mail of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
The Knoxville News-Sentinel said the FBI is investigating the possibility that a University of Tennessee student who is the son of a state legislator from Memphis carried out the hacking.
The report said FBI agents raided the apartment of David Kernell early Sunday morning.
It said friends of Kernell were interviewed, and said they are due to testify about the case in Chattanooga this week.
A federal grand jury is set to convene in Chattanooga on Tuesday.
Kernell is the son of Memphis Democrat Mike Kernell, who acknowledged that his son is being investigated.
WBIR reported on the raid at the party over the weekend:
The FBI is stepping up its investigation into the possibility that a University of Tennessee student hacked into the personal e-mail of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
A person who identified himself as a witness tells 10 News that agents with the FBI served a federal search warrant at the Fort Sanders residence of David Kernell early Sunday morning. Kernell lives in the Commons apartment complex at 1115 Highland Ave.
David Kernell is the son of Mike Kernell, a Democratic state representative from Memphis.
A Department of Justice spokesperson confirmed there has been “investigatory activity” in Knoxville regarding the Palin case, but she said there are no publicly available search warrants, and no charges have been filed.
A separate law enforcement source confirmed to 10 News that a search warrant was served on Kernell’s apartment.
According to the witness, several agents arrived at The Commons of Knoxville around midnight.
They presented their badges upon entering Kernell’s apartment, where several students were having a party, and took down their names.
The witness tells us they asked him and those who did not live in the unit to go outside. He believes the investigators took about 1.5 to 2 hours taking pictures of everything inside the apartment.
Witnesses say Kernell and his friends fled the apartment when the FBI agents arrived.
Analysts says that whoever is caught might face only a slap of the wrist as a result of a DOJ loophole.
Where’s the ACLU when you need them?
Never mind.
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9/17 Sarah Palin’s private e-mail hacked, family photos raided; cesspool blog gloats; feds investigate
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9/18 Closing in on the Palin e-mail hacker Updated
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No offense by why would anyone ever need the ACLU?
A reasonable person might need the ACLJ but never the ACLU….
Is that where the water goes when I flush?
LOL, I told Mr SWMBO last night who ever did this would only get a slap on the wrist. Sometimes I hate to be right.
Isn’t there a kernell of decency left within the Democrat Party?
I guess not.
The ACLU?
Remeber, the American Criminal Liberties Union will be out there defending David Kernell – not protecting the civil rights of Republican Sarah Palin.
I disagree with analysts who say he’ll get off. If he had only retrived the password & logged in, that would be one thing. He CHANGED the password, altered the account without authorization, & then proceeded to steal data from it.
That is a federal communications law violation no matter how you slice it.
That must’ve put a major damper on the party.
(D)= slap on wrist.
But if Bush wants to listen in on known terrorist……..OH the Horror!
Aw c’mon, there’s no such thing as right or wrong anymore. It’s a free for all.
Fixed it.
look on the bright side:
If David Kernell ends up going down…
he ain’t goin’ down alone. He’ll name names as to who told him to do what.
(Unless of course, while sitting in jail he dies mysteriously of a heart attack. )
Arkancide over a little ole thing like this?
Well, I guess it could happen….
BTW the “palin made rape victims pay for thier own rape kit” smear is now being repeated as fact on http://www.cnn.com
From the DOJ Manual:
That has to be one of the most contorted exercises in hair splitting I have ever seen. It is, quite frankly, idiotic.
If an individual printed all of their read e-mails and kept them in a secure place in their home, that is no different from storing those messages electronically. Heck, you can buy electronic storage space these days.
So a person if better off killing trees and printing off all e-mails to store in a filing cabinet rather than storing them in an electronic file. If someone breaks into your home and steals them, that is a felony. But if someone snatches them from the ethernet, that is perfectly OK. That is kind of like saying it is OK to steal someone’s car, but it is a criminal offense to take their horse and buggy.
All very interesting.
Now – close the loop with the Obama campaign. I’d guess that there are a lot less than Twelve Steps to the Pope connecting Obama and Mike Kernell.
Look at the excellent work done by Rusty Shackleford over at Java Report this morning for a find example of connecting the dots.
A democrats son hacked her account. Never saw that one coming.
You never know… they did help out Rush Limbaugh…
Oh dear…
But it sounds like he may have a promising career working for David Axelrod or Winner & Associates… if he doesn’t already work for them.
There has to be more to the story than just this cretin breaking into Palin’s email account for ‘fun’ or notoriety on some loser website.
He was doing it for some reason, and he was picked to do it. I do not for one minute believe this is just random. Why didn’t 6 or 20 or 112 hackers try to do it?
So let me see (and dont get all weirded out on the example….)
When you are off on vacation, I trick your aparment manager into changing the locks on your apartment and then giving me the new set of keys. I then go and raid your lingerie and post all the pictures of me playing with them on the internet and then invite the entire world to come play with them also.
But then I get off on a loophole because I was only playing with your lingerie that is in the dirty clothes hamper and not the ones that are still in the Victorias Secret gift box?
So I guess its legal to go change everyones doorlocks on them while there are not at home…… hmmmmmm
The breadknife over at DOJ has been broken for years…
so the hacker is the son of a Dem.. hmmm family values Democrat stlye, huh?
When I was in college I got a speeding ticket…. and I freaked out for days that my dad was going to kill me.
This kid “hacks” a VP canditates email and has the Secret Service/FBI/Alaskan government on his butt……….. but he’s throwing a party at his place just a couple of day later????????
Something doesnt sound right. Especially if everyone “fled the apartment” when the agents arrived and asked them to step outside while they copied his porn and emptied his bong water.
It’s all Bush’s fault!!
canditates…. really? So how much did you parents waste on that English degree anyway?
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=626211
The left couldn’t care less. It’s OK for them to be completely unethical. Notice the extreme silence from the Odumbo camp? Has anyone even denounced this?
Remember, the MO is still:
By any means necessary.
Please, let’s not forget.
Two words: Civil suit.
One word: Watergate
This Kernell kid is a little jerk. Probably an unpaid staffer for the Obummer campaign. I wonder what his grades are like in college if he has as much time on his hands to hack into Sarah Palin’s email account.
Here’s a question: if Obummer is running a “decent” and “confident” campaign then why do his supporters feel the need to attempt such stunts as hacking into Palin’s email account and the blatant, underground smear campaign that we’re now seeing?
This isn’t about issues, it’s about personal destruction.
I’m amazed at the Dems…I still remember how they b#tched and howled over Watergate back in the ’70s for something similar to this break-in, but now only offer sympathy and excuses for the wrongdoers with the help of the mush-headed Bush administration.
Imagine the total outrage if this was BO’s or Bidens email. The double standard is a very strange thing. If the Dem’s do it, a prank, if the other side did it “worse than awful” with all the appropriate coverage by the MSM.
Wow, I can’t believe both stories actually contained the “D” word. I thought that words was off limits to the media?
Gawker personnel should also be indicted. Dissemination is a crime.
Laws are intentionally vague so that bureaucrats can enforce them when they want and avoid enforcing them when they like.
With all these idiotic and vague laws on the books we are all violating some federal law right now. It is up to our government to decide when and whom they wish to prosecute.
Friend and fellow Imus Fan was at the Flordia Rally and blogs about it here.
http://bellalu0.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/palin-power-under-hot-florida-sun/
Actually.. he’s a grown man. Let’s keep that in mind.
My wife says most men are little boys in grown mens bodies.
RS – get with the times, Man! They were throwing the kid a bridal shower in honor of the role he is going to be playing in his new accommodations for the next 5 to 10.
But what do you get for the “little man” who is about to enter an “arranged marriage” for the next 5 to 10?
Good question. His favorite flavored pillow?
It’s a small paper but it’s a start
http://www.examiner.com/x-701-National-Defense-Examiner~y2008m9d22-Smear-videos-against-Palin-linked-to-Obama-campaign?comments=true#comments
Palin’s supposedly personal email was hacked. No harm was done.
Did you hear that the McCain campaign insisted on a vice Presidential debate format that doesn’t force the candidates to actually debate? Palin isn’t up to that yet.
A federal crime was committed. Your definition of harm is obviously biased and far from objective.
Anything put on the internet is ultimately discoverable. However, there are laws – although we all know that the election of “The One” will bury this event completely.
As far as no harm being done. The radical left tried to use the e-mail as proof that Palin used her personal account to do government business. Although this has been proven to be untrue, the release of the personal e-mail has allowed slander, and that is most certainly harmful.
Supposedly personal? I’ve not heard any speculation that it was something other than a personal email account. Have you Troll? Perhaps you and your foil-hat friends believe this is all a hoax to drum up some kind of sympathy vote for the ticket?
No Harm? If by that you mean there was no blood shed, no fires started, nobody went to the hospital or was physically injured, perhaps that is true.
How about personal privacy? Was that harmed? Do you know for a fact that none of the pictures posted on that web site (illegally posted by the way) will not be used for some harmful purpose? What possible reason could there have been, discounting of course, an attempt to personally embarass Gov. Palin?
How about we post your personal pictures, screen shots of your email account, change your password and generally mess with your life.
Back under the bridge with you.
Dude, pass that doobie over here.
-pfft-
So I was sayin’ that I tried her mother’s maiden name, the name of the street she grew up on, an’ some other stuff. Then alluvasudden—BAM—I was in! I didn’t think it would would be that ea—
Aw, shoot, run!
On September 22nd, 2008 at 12:08 pm, chapoutier said:
I hear that’s where the Obama campaign fishes for their best ideas.
Vice President Palin will cream Biden, just by showing up! Her warmth, youth and persona are attributes with which non-elitist voters can relate. Biden is old, cantankerous, and prone to speaking in deliberate sound-bites; people will tune him out.
And when it comes to verbally enumerating the issues and addressing an appropriate plan of action for achieving solutions, Vice President Palin’s experience as a governor gives her an advantage that neither Biden nor Obama can match!
On September 22nd, 2008 at 4:26 pm, Salt said:
I guess it’s not a crime if the victim is a Republican!
FYI Computerworld is reporting that the hacker’s IP address traces back to Kernell’s apartment building.
I dont necessarily disagree with you but I’ll be surprised if the kid gets anything more than community service if he’s convicted. I also expect his lawyer to plea bargain the charges (if any) down. But in any case I hope he’s made an example of but we’ll see.
I guess lgm would have no problem with his personal email being hacked as long as no harm was done.
The sheer stupidity astounds me.
That’s because there is no respect for self, law or others in our society anymore. Getting busted by the Bush Nazis is a party event, dude. He struck a blow for freedom and now it’s time to celebrate. He knows the most he’ll get will be community service if the charges arent outright dropped. I suspect his old man has some pull around the court house.
In this case, I believe that “no harm done” is his sour grapes that nothing politically damaging or embarrassing to Gov. Palin was revealed. Since they could not find any dirt, ‘no harm was done’.
One of his earlier responses was that this was done by “some kids” as if it was just some harmless prank. I’m guessing the possibility of this tracing back to the Obama campaign, or at the very least someone connected to the democratic party as this appears to be, is worrying him a bit.
lgm typically suggests that Republicans are the dirty players, but he seems to gloss over the fact that Obama was able to sail into the Senate seat because his opposition’s divorce settlement was unsealed (despite protests for privacy from both his opponent and his ex-wife).
So, in this you are likely right. To the left, privacy only matters when you’re a liberal or a suspected terrorist.
Hadnt heard that rumor. Got anything to back it up?
I do know for a fact that Zero-Bama has refused to debate McCain in an open forum. The “I’ll debate McCain anytime anywhere” candidate is suddenly debate-shy. Even if they let Zero-Bama use teleprompters McCain will still steal his lunch and eat it right in front of him. And Zero-bama knows it.
He’s a college kid with a computer. Physically grown, mentally still a child. He has not had a taste of real life. This little incident might provide some of it for him.
He hasnt reached that point in his life where this applies:
Let me re-phrase my last post. He’s a democrat college kid with a computer.
So you are the arbiter of “harm?” If your house/apartment was broken into, would there be harm? Read the law.
Did you hear that Øbama refused to do real debates in a townhall setting with McCain because he wouldn’t have any teleprompters? After he promised to do so? Øbama isn’t up to that yet.
Since when do any of these so called “debates” actually follow real debate rules? Do the candidates actually address each other?
I see. So if you rob a bank at gunpoint but give all of the money back, no harm was done and there should be no crime. Right?
And if someone breaks into your home and takes some of your personal items, there is no problem if you get your locks replaced and your property returned undamaged.
Of if someone steals your car, it is not actually auto theft if you get your car back with the gas tank refilled.
And this is from a University Professor? You must be proud of your record of placing graduates at fast food restaurants.
If he used the U of Tenn’s network to do this, he could be in for more serious charges. They are NOT a typical ISP; they are a government network that most likely forbids this type of actitivity. No matter what the hippie birkenstock folks at EFF think.
Back in 2003 a woman was sentenced to 60 days of house arrest for guessing the password of her husband’s ex-wife’s account and reading her email.
There is currently a case Bunnell V MPAA over what is the definition of “storage”, and “intercept”. This case is different — maybe — from the Palin case in that the “hacker” received payment from the MPAA for the emails he retrieved OFF THE SERVER. The Judge — off her rocker — said he had done nothing wrong as the emails were in “storage” and not “intercepted.” This “hacker” did the same thing as the Palin hacker, and got paid. BTW the reason “intercept” is being discussed is due to the 1968 Wiretap law, which they say he violated.
Wonder if she can use Rowe V Wade to claim a privacy invasion? Wouldn’t that be a hoot to watch the Dems defend.
Anyone interested in hacking into lgm’s account here is some personal information to use:
Birthdate: April 1
Favorite Books: Mein Kampf, The Communist Manefesto
Childhood Hero: Jimmy Carter
Favorite Quotation From History ” It depends on what the meaning of the word is is”
Hey! Did you hear that in fact Obama promised no such thing, and said only that he would be open to the idea. However, you may have also heard that when the McCain campaign insisted on ten such town halls and felt that only his campaign should get to dictate the format of them, Obama rightly told him to go stuff it. Oh and by the way, I also heard that McCain only wanted to do them to counteract Obama’s huge money advantage.
I sorta get the feeling that some think the “kid” was only playing a prank.
Since when is a 20 year old a “kid”?
Three month after my 18th birthday I was in the Army. On my 19th birthday I was in an Army Infantry Division training for the invasion of one of Japan’s home islands. So if I was old enough to be in a potential Front Line Infantry Division when has the definition of “kid” applied to a 20 year old?
Only democrats are entitled to privacy. Everybody else is subject to a full scale “by any means necessary” examination to make sure they are not plotting against democrats.
That kid was a noob. The internet force level on our side is over 9000! Which is to say our kids are much better at it.
The mission was to get Oprah to say “over 9000 penises” on television.
The boys of Anon accepted the assignment and a special message appeared on the Oprah Forum.
The big “O” bit like it was a loose meat sandwich.
Successful troll is successful.
^ – * picked up a bit of their lingo researching this comment… lulz