Obama and Ayers: Radical collaborators
Stanley Kurtz elaborates on how Barack Obama and Bill Ayers organized a community of left-wing grievance-mongers in Chicago’s public schools.
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Michelle O looks pissed.
The folks who did Michelle Obama’s makeover really had their work cut out for them.
Unfortunately, all of the articles I see on MM and other blogs will never see the light of day in the MSM (including their internet sites). I have never, not ever, seen any reference to the Ayers-Obama connection and probably never will. I get the full story about this strictly through blogs.
She’s happy! That is her happy look. She even looked “happy” while eating with Paula Deen.
I can’t wait till Colin Powell endorses Obama - and you folks will have to explain why Colin Powell hates America
Big c, little c, a Communist is a communist. At least he’s (partially) honest. I’m willing to wager once Obama is elected, the communist will be big c.
Just as long as they don’t have dog breath like Alex Jones…
No. We will patiently explain to you or to anyone else who missed PoliSci 101 the difference between modern day liberalism and conservatism.
The country should be crying foul.
Sounds eerily similar to Obama’s claim that he was never in attendance when Rev. Wright preached his um, sermons.
Riiiiight.
ROTFLMAO, Colin Powell? Obambi supporters would not support Obambi if he took that endorsement. Remember their outrage at Colin’s U.N. speech? LMAO, that would be the best if Colin endorses the great surrender king!
Nothing of the kind. You make a really big mistake by assuming that everybody here is a Powell fan just because he was Bush’s SecState. You’re wrong. He’s free to endorse either candidate and it’ll make absolutely no difference.
WSJ article:
And this is why Hollywood thinks we should be grateful for and elect a “community organizer” to the preisdency?! YIKES!
Didn’t Gen. Powell just recently say ‘I’m an American first’?
Does anyone really care who Colin Powell endorses?
Colin who?
I was pleasantly surprised to see Kurtz on O’Reilly last night…shocker.
BUT then Bill, “every thing is about me” O’Reilly didn’t even get to the meat of AYERS and Obama.
Unshock.
WHO WILL TELL THE COUNTRY?
Thankfully THIS was a Wall Street Journal article.
That Obama is a Marxist/mohammedan is quite evident. That is what he would have learned in Indonesia. It was once called Sukarnoism.
Indonesian Communism Under Sukarno: Ideology and Politics, 1959-1965
And that, unfortunately — or fortunately, in a weird way (thank God for blogs like Michelle’s or Hopenchange would skate away completely on his sordid associations) — is how things will stay.
The media arm of the donkey party can gossip-monger about McCain’s citizenship status, or whether he had an affair with a lobbyist; when they’re not trash-talking Sarah Palin and her family, they’ll send 30 reporters to Alaska solely for the purpose of “investigating” her.
That’s “hard-hitting journalism.”
But look into Hopenchange’s consorting with Ayers? Dohrn? Rezko? Wright? Pfleger? No way, man. That’s just “right-wing propaganda,” and they’re not going to help spread it.
After all, they have standards to uphold. They’re “journalists” — professionals. And don’t you jammie-wearin’ foo’s ever let yourselves forget it.
As I said, thank God for Michelle and those like her. Without the alternative media to get around the donkey media blockers/cheerleaders, Hopenchange would probably be coasting to an easy victory right about now.
That WSJ article (properly credited of course) would make a great handout on flyers given out on the street …
I suspect that Ayers will be BO’s Education Secretary …
Ayers/Rezko and on and on. Big deal. Nothing to see here folks, nothing to report and we ought to know ‘cuz we are professionals, do not try this at home.
Just move a long, get along, go along.
So sayeth (or not) the MSM.
Perhaps we should compile a list of Obamatools. Now that McCain’s folks woke up, we can add some of New York’s publications to the list, Oprah, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC.
Hey, this is fun, anybody care to join in?
I have to agree here with FirstSkirt. The MSM is never going to make this an issue. I think we’re pi$$ing in the wind with this. Unfortunately.
The main media outlets are so unbelievably in the tank for the Half-Honky-All-Donkey that it it has just become a propaganda war, and it ain’t looking too good for the good guys.
An illuminating read. Wonder if the daily newspapers across the nation will republish it in their op-ed pages for everyone else to see and read.
If you think the NYTimes news page is biased, how could you possibly quote the Wall Street Journal opinion page as news? Get real.
That ties in the ACORN connection.
A nice little corrupt, radical, communist regime Obama helped run back there in Chicago.
Now Obama wants to bring his regime to reign over the entire country.
Uh… no thanks pal.
BWAAAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAAA
You first Idiot.
Yup.. Obama felt very comfortable working alongside a domestic terrorist. One that was still on the same mission.
One has to ask.. what mission is it that Obama is really on??? Consider who he was associated with. The answer become obvious.
I’m not sure which is worse, Obama’s cozy association with an unrepentant America-hating rich boy terrorist or that their whole scheme was a royal RIPOFF.
wouldn’t you love to see a 60 minutes type show where every week we investigate the leading news anchor of a city, the leading radio personality, the leading newspaper reporter, and one national news personality. let’s see who was 17 and pregnant, who had an abortion, who drinks, who sleeps around, who does drugs, who cheats on taxes, who is homosexual, who is a pedophile, who beats their spouse. after all, they LOVE to investigate any conservative, how well would they look under the lights.
Hey lgm, anything about this article relating the close association of BO and domestic terrorist William Ayers, you would like to comment on? Does any of it trouble you even a little bit?
Feel free to comment about the article. Misdirection need not apply here.
Chicago Annenberg Challenge IS Obama and Ayers.
October surprise is coming.
And WHY is ‘factcheck.org called
the Annenberg Political Fact check?
Is AYERS doing the Obama fact checking?
Isn’t this big news about a Presidential candidates views on Education? Where would he take us in Education if he were elected. Ayers as Secretary of Education? Ok maybe not Ayer but someone who believes in similar practices.
History of American evil, oppression and racism. I didn’t hear that in Obamas speech on race. It seems that Obama has been immersed in this type of radical philosophy for years in Chicago. How could he not have picked up a lot of it as his personal philosophy? He would have to have advocated this type of philosopy to even be chosen to be on one of these boards.
I don’t see them saying, heres a guy that doesn’t believe in anything we are doing or what we are about, lets put him in charge.
That is a pretty big thing for me. Not that he has that philosophy, maybe some people think thats good and right. But that we should know he believes that way. I doubt that a majority of Americans would want to go that direction.
Let Obama state his position and let the people decide. What are they afraid of. Or are liberals just out to fool people and lie to them? There sure was a lot of criticism of Pres Bush for that. But now it’s ok. What a bunch of bleeeeeeeeep! Credibility factor reaching zero.
You keep trying to insinuate that by Obama somehow knowing Bill Ayers in Chicago, that implicates him in Ayers’ terrorist activities. It does not. Sorry about that.
After all, lets talk about the issues.
And it doesn’t occur to you to ask why that would be? You just blindly accept that that establishment journalism is “in the bag” for Barack Obama? It couldn’t possibly be because they’ve investigated this, found nothing that’s germane to the current Presidential race, and have therefore summarily tossed it back into the fetid swamp of the Wingnut Wasteland on the Internet, where you people just use it as fodder for the temper tantrums that no one’s listening to? Please. Spare me.
You’ve had months to get this one to walk. IF there were a real story there, it would have been all over the WaPo and the WSJ by now. It hasn’t, there isn’t, go back to pulling the wings off flies.
La Malkin’s a smart lady; she doesn’t even bother to bring this crap up around reasonably intelligent adults in her opinion columns and television appearances. She runs this crud on her blog because it results in page views, and she makes money from page views. I do not, for one second, accept that she really believes this is “important,” any more than I think the latest Sarah Palin nonsense is “important.”
sorry soap, emu gets the idiot of the day award.
It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!!
McCain/Palin 08′
Image: emu with it’s head in the sand.
Hey, Swoop-n-poop, looking for something to read? Go read Ayers speech to the World Education Forum in Venezuela, given in Nov. 2006. Too tired to read? Go watch a 2006 video posted at Hot Air where Ayers describes his bombing days as a “great teaching moment.”
Just slightly more than the votes that Obama cast during the same time span.
You know it was only 100 million. So will Obama reduce his ‘experience’ as a community
agitateractivist.Education philosphy as an issue is not germane? You bias is showing and it’s not pretty.
No one here is saying Obama should be implicated in Ayer’s terrorism because Obama was only 8, remember? It’s about the people around him who have influence over him and his policies. This guy is a terrorist, right? Do you think it’s ok for Obama to associate, be friends with, work with him? Would you keep someone like Ayers around as any kind of associate? The same goes for attending a racist church for 20 years, but then deny he knew anything about it. Sorry is right, Omu.
He doesn’t “somehow know him”. He has a relationship going back years.
I don’t insinuate, I come right out and say what I think. I say Obama is a communist. Plain enough?
Maybe “Ilovemycountry” should take a look a this for an explanation:
http://mkfreeberg.webloggin.com/individualism-and-collectivism/
Hey Emu, have you ever heard that the way to judge someone’s character is by the company they keep?
I’m betting Sean Hannity will.
I’m sure you do. Pity you don’t have anything to back that up with, though. You know, I once knew an Anarchist. Does that make me an anarchist? I’m fairly certain it doesn’t, but by your standards, it would seem that I am now a bona fide anarachist, right?
Oh, and don’t start saying that because Obama wants to help the poor and disadvantaged, he’s a socialist. He is most definitely not a socialist at all. If he was, I’d be supporting him even more!
Omu Credibility factor = minus 1
This relationship doesn’t sound like your casual exchange of pleasantries that neighbors share in the same “neighborhood.”
Obama’s relationship with Ayers is beyond “I once knew…” I’m still waiting for you to answer whether or not you’d be associated with or ask for the support of someone who declared war on your country or declared that you should “kill your parents”.
Ummmmmmm, I think he wants to help himself.
Words mean things. Look it up. Try this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist
I’ve known many anarchists. No it doesn’t make you one. But you still might be. It doesn’t make you not one.
Again, look it up.
USSR = Communism
USSR = Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Sometimes the truth just slaps you in the face.
Education died years ago … all the kids get now is Indoctrination …
Speaking only of associations. I suppose it was on FNC that I saw something about Obama’s college days and his two friends from Pakistan. He visited Pakistan for awhile. Does anyone know where these guys are and what they are doing?
It just seems like he spent a lot of time with people who were not happy with the US.
That picture of Michelle O slays me. I sure would like to know who did her current make-over. I’d kill for an appointment!
Yeah, it does. Just coincidence though. Right, Omu?
He has been earning it on several posts today. On the other hand, emu and lgm both have three letters. HMMMM, I may be on to something there.
Omu’s a he? Oh my.
I think there is a more deeply troubling thing about this story that people aren’t looking at. There are sectors in this country (especially urban areas) where these extreme activists operate and deliberately undermine the country. I believe both Obummer and Ayers weren’t simply helping the poor because it never is that simple. Using the poor as a prop for a larger cause but not really addressing their problems.
Did anybody notice that the money wasn’t invested in teaching Math/Science that are critical need areas of attention and rather they wanted to address things like “inequity,” “justice,” and “war” in these schools taking part? When I substitute taught, I saw how many schools (especially the urban ones I worked in) couldn’t find (or claimed they couldn’t find) “qualified” candidates to teach subjects like Math and Science. Most of the time, these schools were using substitutes to do the teaching.
Schools aren’t communist indoctrination camps. They’re places that should be preparing young people for both future careers, and the real world. This isn’t 1917 where Lenin would round up eager young revolutionaries to “change the world.” Freedom of thought in schools should be the norm not something that is subverted in order to create future revolutionaries.
I was exposed to a lot of the kind of nonsense that Ayers pushed when I was a master’s student. My advisor would routinely lecture my master’s class on our “responsibility” to “revolutionize” the classroom and teach kids to not only be active thinkers but be part of the “revolution.” These are the sort of teacher education programs that the Annenburg Challenge sponsored and the kind of thing that exists in many teacher preparation programs.
I think folks like Omu like to gloss over the content and dismiss this stuff. It’s nothing bad… what’s a little socialism…. which controls people’s freedom for the convenience of the state. What’s a little communism… it’s just helping the poor and disadvantaged. I’m sorry…Omu… but Ayer’s level of thinking has infiltrated teacher education programs and those very same schools that could use much needed resources.
Since the 60’s, this country has slipped toward socialism….and then communism… it’s real, it’s alive, and if people dismiss it then they tacitly approve of it. Don’t they, Omu?
My experience with the bleeding heart libs of education could be summed up with one of my classes. Two men co-taught Reading/Language Arts Methods. Almost the entire semester was spent listening to one of these professors read the book, “A Day No Pigs Would Die”. Oh, and listening to him talk about how much he loved listening to the clock on the wall “tick” because it was so peaceful. UGH! Neither one of them prepared me for teaching, although that was probably a good thing because they hadn’t been in the classroom in ages, so it probably wouldn’t have mattered.
Well, lgm is male so if my theory is gunna hold any sand…
Do people actually talk like about things on this blog in any significant way, or is it just a lot of mild insults like this. I’m fairly certain it’s the latter. The overwhelming majority of posts here seem to centre on which poster is a bigger “idiot”, silly word play (really, there’s far too much of this; from altering my own username to “Emu” (which, btw, doesn’t make any sense at all. Besides, “Omu” is a Japanese word for Owl, so making that into another bird word in order to make some point is rather ironic, and also stupid.) to changing “better half” to “bitter half” and finding different ways to alter the word Democrat (”democRAT” wouldn’t have been funny even if I was 5) and most of all, everyone just shouts words like “socialist” and “you libs” a lot.
Grow up, much?
Yes, we do. In fact, at post #50 we were defining political terms in order to have political debate. Go back and see. As far as your name goes, I think everyone’s Japanese is a little rusty.
We know you don’t.
1. What was it that kept you both from drinking the Kool Aid served by these ‘teachers’?
2. Did y’all complain? You probably didn’t have much of an outlet for your complaints though.
I suppose students are at the mercy of their teachers but I sure wish there was a way these profs/teachers could be outed.
This is pretty much exactly what I was talking about. And only two posts after I made my complaint. Thanks for proving my point beautifully.
So Omu,
What were your teachers like? Did they try to ram rod conservative agendas down your throat?
BTW Omu, Obama is a communist.
No, they didn’t force any ideas on me. Well, we did have a class once where we discussed homosexuality and watched a video about a gay teenager who was bullied so badly that he took his own life. The moral of the story was to respect gay people - does that mean I was indoctrinated into not bullying gay people by savage liberal thugs disguised as teachers?! Going by the attitude of some on this site, I guess it does!
Really, though, I’ve never been forced to believe anything. At college, my subjects were Japanese and International Business, though, so I guess there wasn’t much room for lecturers to convey any kind of political agenda.
Owl,
Oh, wise one. Let’s start with your opening salvo at #33. The idea Obama even associates with Ayers is bad enough. Factor in Obambi started his campaign with Ayers present should send shivers up anybody’s spine (but yours it seems).
Lgm brings on his attacks just by showing up. If he once posted and kept on topic and made a point, he would not receive the shots he earns.
If you come on THIS BLOG and do what lgm fails to do, we are going to make you pay so, deal with it or go back to DKOS. We do not give dumb comments a pass here. If you act juvenile and make a stupid post – duck – it is coming at you.
Onto post #45 second paragraph. If it smells like, walks like acts like a socialist… The idea you would support a socialist “even more” means you get every jab you deserve. An owl is supposed to be wise so supporting a socialist is a wise thing to do? Good lord. And you wonder why people poke you with a stick and say, “Look mommy, it is alive?”
“Grow up much?” Many times over. Even to the point where I do not take myself seriously. I may not be “wise” owl, but I am smart enough to know if I cruise over to DKOS with my conservative views I know I would get treated more harshly then you are treated here. I am not here to change the world, I am just:
On-my-soap-box
That was mistyped by me. I intended to say something along the lines of “I would reconsider my support for him even more than I am now”. That said, I’m really not seeing Obama as any kind of socialist.
omu = OneMonkeysUncle
Do you not understand the definition or are you in denial?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist
You are proving your own point. No help needed by anyone else.
MSNBC runs lies and tripe for the liberal scum so they can corner that market and put coin in their pocket. What you’re saying is pretty sparse.
Keep digging. What does that mean? You sound conflicted. You are a supporter of Odumbo - right? Because, that would explain a lot of things.
All I can say is that picture of Michelle O. cannot be helpful to her children. :lol)
Wow, what shocking development (sarc on) - looks like Obama wasn’t properly vetted.
Every moron on the blog who swoons Obama sticks their head in the sand and say he’s not a Marxist but he just loves the idea of class warfare. (watch him try and sweet talk his tax system)Maybe he’s more of a twisted John Stuart Mill type. Lol.
I realized, during my first year, that I was conservative, even though I grew up in a Dem South FL town. It was almost expected that you be Dem. But my beliefs proved otherwise. I thought local government should take care of local problems, people should be responsible for their own actions, and I had a lot of respect for our volunteer military. I never complained because I didn’t have the confidence I do now. I’m teaching my daughters to recognize indoctrination so they’ll be able to combat it.
Omu:
Apparently yo mama didn’t tell you that You’re known by the company you keep!
Well, with e-mail, cars, Palin attacks that don’t work, maybe Obama can threaten to unleash Ayers to gather some votes. “If you don’t vote for me, I’ll see that Ayers visits your neighborhood”. Heck, who knows, this might work.
navywife91, thanks for your rsvp. It’s remarkable how something triggers our brains and we head down a certain path. Your daughters are lucky to have you as a momma.
omuRe: that video at school. I suppose your teacher was trying to help you guys learn tolerance. Sort of a harsh way to do it, eh? Japanese is a tough language to learn. You work hard and you will go far with it. I want you to know that it seems to me that it is easy these days to be a supporter for Obama. You have the US/ International media and tons of youth backing you up. Please use that ‘able to learn Japanese’ brain of yours to sythesize Obama’s past associations and understand where he plans to go in the future. Some of the people on this thread are trying to explain that.
I can’t believe you’re actually sticking with this “Obama is a communist” nonsense. Maybe you should read that definition yourself.
I’m fairly certain that was the point, yes. It’s bizarre that some on the faux-right feign outrage over this sort of stuff and brand it as “indoctrination”.
Of course it is. Have you noticed what Republicans have done to this country these past 8 years? It hasn’t been pretty, to say the least. I’m not an Obama supporter, because I am a conservative (a proper conservative, not some homophobic, anti-choice pretender to that title) and I acknowledge that government is bad and I think conservatism is about recognising the evils of government and trying to limit them. That’s what it should be about, but today’s Republicans seems to have warped and distorted that initial, wonderful idea into something disgusting - war mongering and manipulating the intolerance of the masses seem to be the order of the day for those that brazenly incorrectly label themselves today. I will, I’m almost certain, be voting for Obama this November (with gritted teeth!) because I think Democrats can do a better job fixing the mess made by Bush and maybe Obama’s election will be a wake up call for conservatives.
That was worthy of a snort.
And the true colors came back out, whew that was close.
Yep, it’s all Republicans. Democrats calling our President a liar to the world and actively campaigning against our country had not effect. Lie after lie after lie did not have any impact. Calling Haditha marines cold blooded murderers has no impact. Running Congress for the last 2 years means nothing. Yep, it’s only those Republicans.
I can tell your pretty smart when it comes to politics.
Republicans had congress for 7 years before Democrats gained a slim majority.
Guess what? Republican policy failed! Repuiblican foreign policy has made us a lot less safer, Republican healthcare ideas mean the less fortunate of us are left out, and Republican economics have left our financial sector is ruin, and Bush is going to leave us with billions upon billions (and perhaps trillions) of debt. Add this to the fact that Republicans lead us into a war (in which thousands of our troops have lost their lives) under the promise that Sadam was harbouring weapons capable of mnass destruction. These weapons did not exist. Saying you had bad intelligence info or whatever just is not good enough when nearly 4000 soldiers are dead and their families devasted.
And add to this the war mean-spirited and nasty Republicans declared on the already-vulnerable minority of homosexuals, Bush going as far as using them for political bait not so long ago. And the war on reproductive rights.
Don’t tell me that it’s because of Democrats that the world hates Republicans. It’s because of Republicans that the world hates Republicans.
Omu,
Your sad, tired liberal diatribe doesn’t work here. You’ve yet to answer questions that were asked of you just yesterday. Instead of addressing them, you come off with the same old lib talking points…Republicans hate homosexuals, want people to die, no WMD(please tell the us the Kurds weren’t actually gassed, they just fell over and died), the “war” on reproductive rights(which you obviously think is so much more important than the WOT). You are right that the Republicans are to blame for putting us into further debt, but that’s because they started spending like Dems. The consequence of that was their losses in Congress in 2006. As a military wife, I’m appauled that someone like you claims to care about the military, but only when you get to throw out that “4,000″ number. These families do not want your pity. The vast majority of them are proud of the sacrifice their family member made and so am I. Is it horrible when someone is killed? Damn straight it is, but would you be willing to volunteer and make the ultimate sacrifice for freedom? I doubt it. It’s a war. People are going to die. To say that Republicans, like me, don’t care is yet another ignorant statement on your part. Then you say Obama is going to do all those things you think the Republicans haven’t done, but how do you think he’s going to pay for it? Somehow you don’t think that all those lofty promises are going to cost billions of dollars? It’s ok to people like you who want to take money away from the people who earn it and give it to people who don’t. If we Conservatives/Republicans are so mean-spirited and greedy, then why do we donate much more of our hard-earned money to charity? It’s really easy to find the study that proves this, so try it. There’s a difference between helping the poor and unfortunate and giveaways to the lazy and unmotivated.
I’m going to assume that since you never answered my questions you think it’s ok to have a friend/associate like terrorist Bill Ayers. Please don’t use your weak analogy again of, “I knew blah, blah, blah, does that make me…” Also, because you pasted the above quote(#86) without decrying the fact that John Murtha accused our Marines of being cold-blooded murderers, then that’s ok with you too.
This mean-spirited conservative is out.
Omu said :
It has? Unsafe like how? Last I checked, 9/11 occured after 8 years of prostrating ourselves around the world.
I’d like to address one other mis-conception. You are not a conservative. You might call yourself one but it has the same meaning as if I called myself Chinese.
Things which you are supporting are in fact not conservative. Your idea of limited government is in fact conservative - but what I hear you saying is parallel to the democrats supporting the troops with their constant “I support the troops but disagree with everything the do and stand for”.
No WMD - what a pile of nonsense. First: - Saddam’s actions indicated he had something to hide. What were we supposed to believe based on Saddam’s actions? Second: Saying that since we didn’t find any, they don’t exist is equivalent to saying “since we haven’t caught Bin Laden, he doesn’t exist”. If you remember Eric Rudolph, you’ll remember it took us several years to find him even when we had him pinned down within 10 square miles. Third: We HAVE found WMD - but every time we do, it generally gets dismissed as “well they were not new ones” or “they were no longer operational” or “the troops just put them there to show some success”.
Please don’t spout the No WMD talking point any more w/o proof.
Oh, navywife, I totally agree. I don’t really think that far-left Dems like Omu really understand and never will. In their litle world, the glass is half empty. They use our military as a political tool to advance their agenda while pretending that they care. They defame and malign people like my husband and I’m supposed to take it? You got that wrong, Omu.
I think it’s pretty sad that Omu, a man, is fighting for my “right” to have an abortion. The women’s movement has been hijacked by wackjobs like this guy. I’m tired of being lectured about not “caring” about those poor, poor women who need to kill their children so they don’t have to face up to their responsibilities.
I wonder what Omu would say if he really understood the challenging environment that military families live in. I’ve been treated like a pariah for marrying my husband by both family and friends of the liberal persuasion. I wonder if he understands the overwhelming problems that military spouses, especially professional military spouses, have with discrimination in the workforce. I’m sure that people like Omu will blame us for that too and not the ignorance on the part of employers.
Obummer isn’t gonna do a damn thing but downsize the military just like Clinton did. Those were “joyous” times for my husband. Obummer has already promised to derail future weapons systems because heaven forbid his socialist utopia be threatened by real world realities.
The unfortunate thing is: Republicans really do see the reality of terrorism and its nasty after effects. Liberals/Dems think that if you just talk to these monsters, they’ll cease and desist. Having lost two friends in 9/11 and another friend in Iraq, I just don’t think that terrorists are our “friends” and never will be. I leave the empathy for terrorists to tools like Obummer and Omu.
emjem,
Thank you for restating my point so well. I don’t have a word strong enough to describe the absolute anger I have for people who claim to “support the military”. Regardless of whether there is a war going on or not, our husbands still deploy for months at a time. I never had anyone try to interview me or anyone else I knew about the challenges we faced. I know it is because there were no political points to be scored. They do truly disgust me.
I have also had with Omu and his type. Instead of answering questions or disputing facts, they obfuscate and spew talking points. Ugh!
Gladz:
I hope you’re still following this thread. I missed your post earlier and wanted to respond.
1. On a historical note: I think I was already a bit skeptical of liberalism before going to grad school. I do believe that I did drink the Kool Aid both in high school and college until I started working in the “real world” and earned my own money. I honestly hate paying taxes…
The reason, I think, that I didn’t drink the Kool Aid in grad school is because many of the master’s students had doubts. I felt like I participated in some alternate universe where everything was upside down. I didn’t want to be a “revolutionary.” I just wanted to be a teacher.
2. As you’ve pointed out, it was hard to complain. This guy, who I think is either a far-left Dem or a communist, was the advisor to the program. He would be the person to complain to!
At first, when he started on this Ayers philosophy crap, I thought he wasn’t serious. That he was kidding. That he continued with the “teacher as revolutionary” meme was hard to swallow. He would particularly talk about something known as the Rouge Forum which is a group of far-left educators whose sole reason of existence is to turn educators and even students into revolutionaries.
So, given that if I had complained to this professor I would have probably been out of the program, I vented to my husband who was my boyfriend at the time. I, and my fellow master’s students would make regular trips to Applebee’s on what we called “vent nights” where we would castigate this guy and make fun of him… and how he was ruining the program. There were a few hard core believers in the program (who didn’t participate in our vent nights) but many weren’t.
In a way, we weren’t at the mercy of some of these far-left professors because we were already on to them. We played the game. We went along, knowing that in the end most of us didn’t really believe in the core belief systems of the Rouge Forum and others like it. This professor, our advisor, isn’t even working in the US anymore… he either left or was sacked because the only home he found was a university in Canada (where frankly he’ll find a more sympathethic audience). I won’t even use this guy as a reference because he’s not reliable. In the field of education, he’d be seen as “legitimate” but in the private sector not so much.
Even before I really began teaching, I was disillusioned. I think that many of my fellow master’s students have gone in different directions. Many not even teaching. I’m not even teaching now because the public schools are some of the biggest discriminators against military spouses. They’ll bend over backwords to get you to sub and pay you even less if you teach in lieu of the regular teacher for a few quarters of the school year but that’s about it.
I would warn anyone who goes into the field of teaching to watch out for this, whether it’s a BA program or a Master’s program. Many teacher’s preparation programs are contaminated by Rouge Forum practitioners. I’m not interested in social justice, I just want to teach history.
I think that the new motto for the Dems should be: Hindsight is 20/20. The only people that truly understand what military spouses/families are going through are members of that community. Not politicians. Not journalists. Not private citizens like Omu.
I, too, am disgusted, and now it seems that people like Omu and the American people want blood and want to take out their anger on the military. I’ve seen this with former friends and even people in my own family. It’s made me cynical.
What’s even striking is that Omu really isn’t a conservative. He wants blood and wants to take it out on the Republicans. Many conservatives I’ve spoken to either will vote for McCain or third party. There is absolutely no mention of Obummer.
This is what our country has become. Republicans aren’t perfect, by any means, but not all are bad. The American people are running on a mob mentality where they’ve found their new Elvis, pin up, or version of The Beatles.
BTW, have you heard from Terrig? I haven’t heard from her in a while and I know one of her children is critically ill. If you do… let her know I’m thinking about her.
Lots of talk about Obama’s position on this matter or that. Who cares? What difference could it possibly make? The man hates this nation. You cannot sit at the knee of a poisonous creature like Jeremiah Wright for twenty years (that’s 20) and not share his views and admire his positions. The Democrat of today is the local agent of the World Wide Left. The WWL seeks more and more government managing more and more of our lives. Obama has come so far on cunning and guile. By any and every measure Obama is unfit. ANd yet this deceitful press of ours may win the day for him.