navywife91 said #91:

I think that the new motto for the Dems should be: Hindsight is 20/20. The only people that truly understand what military spouses/families are going through are members of that community. Not politicians. Not journalists. Not private citizens like Omu.

I, too, am disgusted, and now it seems that people like Omu and the American people want blood and want to take out their anger on the military. I’ve seen this with former friends and even people in my own family. It’s made me cynical.

What’s even striking is that Omu really isn’t a conservative. He wants blood and wants to take it out on the Republicans. Many conservatives I’ve spoken to either will vote for McCain or third party. There is absolutely no mention of Obummer.

This is what our country has become. Republicans aren’t perfect, by any means, but not all are bad. The American people are running on a mob mentality where they’ve found their new Elvis, pin up, or version of The Beatles.

BTW, have you heard from Terrig? I haven’t heard from her in a while and I know one of her children is critically ill. If you do… let her know I’m thinking about her.

GladzKravtz said:

emjem24 & navywife91 said

1. What was it that kept you both from drinking the Kool Aid served by these ‘teachers’?
2. Did y’all complain? You probably didn’t have much of an outlet for your complaints though.
I suppose students are at the mercy of their teachers but I sure wish there was a way these profs/teachers could be outed.

Gladz:

I hope you’re still following this thread. I missed your post earlier and wanted to respond.

1. On a historical note: I think I was already a bit skeptical of liberalism before going to grad school. I do believe that I did drink the Kool Aid both in high school and college until I started working in the “real world” and earned my own money. I honestly hate paying taxes…

The reason, I think, that I didn’t drink the Kool Aid in grad school is because many of the master’s students had doubts. I felt like I participated in some alternate universe where everything was upside down. I didn’t want to be a “revolutionary.” I just wanted to be a teacher.

2. As you’ve pointed out, it was hard to complain. This guy, who I think is either a far-left Dem or a communist, was the advisor to the program. He would be the person to complain to!

At first, when he started on this Ayers philosophy crap, I thought he wasn’t serious. That he was kidding. That he continued with the “teacher as revolutionary” meme was hard to swallow. He would particularly talk about something known as the Rouge Forum which is a group of far-left educators whose sole reason of existence is to turn educators and even students into revolutionaries.

So, given that if I had complained to this professor I would have probably been out of the program, I vented to my husband who was my boyfriend at the time. I, and my fellow master’s students would make regular trips to Applebee’s on what we called “vent nights” where we would castigate this guy and make fun of him… and how he was ruining the program. There were a few hard core believers in the program (who didn’t participate in our vent nights) but many weren’t.

In a way, we weren’t at the mercy of some of these far-left professors because we were already on to them. We played the game. We went along, knowing that in the end most of us didn’t really believe in the core belief systems of the Rouge Forum and others like it. This professor, our advisor, isn’t even working in the US anymore… he either left or was sacked because the only home he found was a university in Canada (where frankly he’ll find a more sympathethic audience). I won’t even use this guy as a reference because he’s not reliable. In the field of education, he’d be seen as “legitimate” but in the private sector not so much.

Even before I really began teaching, I was disillusioned. I think that many of my fellow master’s students have gone in different directions. Many not even teaching. I’m not even teaching now because the public schools are some of the biggest discriminators against military spouses. They’ll bend over backwords to get you to sub and pay you even less if you teach in lieu of the regular teacher for a few quarters of the school year but that’s about it.

I would warn anyone who goes into the field of teaching to watch out for this, whether it’s a BA program or a Master’s program. Many teacher’s preparation programs are contaminated by Rouge Forum practitioners. I’m not interested in social justice, I just want to teach history.

Oh, navywife, I totally agree. I don’t really think that far-left Dems like Omu really understand and never will. In their litle world, the glass is half empty. They use our military as a political tool to advance their agenda while pretending that they care. They defame and malign people like my husband and I’m supposed to take it?

emjem,
Thank you for restating my point so well. I don’t have a word strong enough to describe the absolute anger I have for people who claim to “support the military”. Regardless of whether there is a war going on or not, our husbands still deploy for months at a time. I never had anyone try to interview me or anyone else I knew about the challenges we faced. I know it is because there were no political points to be scored. They do truly disgust me.

I have also had with Omu and his type. Instead of answering questions or disputing facts, they obfuscate and spew talking points. Ugh!

navywife91 said #87:

Oh, navywife, I totally agree. I don’t really think that far-left Dems like Omu really understand and never will. In their litle world, the glass is half empty. They use our military as a political tool to advance their agenda while pretending that they care. They defame and malign people like my husband and I’m supposed to take it? You got that wrong, Omu.

I think it’s pretty sad that Omu, a man, is fighting for my “right” to have an abortion. The women’s movement has been hijacked by wackjobs like this guy. I’m tired of being lectured about not “caring” about those poor, poor women who need to kill their children so they don’t have to face up to their responsibilities.

I wonder what Omu would say if he really understood the challenging environment that military families live in. I’ve been treated like a pariah for marrying my husband by both family and friends of the liberal persuasion. I wonder if he understands the overwhelming problems that military spouses, especially professional military spouses, have with discrimination in the workforce. I’m sure that people like Omu will blame us for that too and not the ignorance on the part of employers.

Obummer isn’t gonna do a damn thing but downsize the military just like Clinton did. Those were “joyous” times for my husband. Obummer has already promised to derail future weapons systems because heaven forbid his socialist utopia be threatened by real world realities.

The unfortunate thing is: Republicans really do see the reality of terrorism and its nasty after effects. Liberals/Dems think that if you just talk to these monsters, they’ll cease and desist. Having lost two friends in 9/11 and another friend in Iraq, I just don’t think that terrorists are our “friends” and never will be. I leave the empathy for terrorists to tools like Obummer and Omu.

Guess what? Republican policy failed! Repuiblican foreign policy has made us a lot less safe

It has? Unsafe like how? Last I checked, 9/11 occured after 8 years of prostrating ourselves around the world.

I’d like to address one other mis-conception. You are not a conservative. You might call yourself one but it has the same meaning as if I called myself Chinese.

Things which you are supporting are in fact not conservative. Your idea of limited government is in fact conservative – but what I hear you saying is parallel to the democrats supporting the troops with their constant “I support the troops but disagree with everything the do and stand for”.

I’m going to assume that since you never answered my questions you think it’s ok to have a friend/associate like terrorist Bill Ayers. Please don’t use your weak analogy again of, “I knew blah, blah, blah, does that make me…” Also, because you pasted the above quote(#86) without decrying the fact that John Murtha accused our Marines of being cold-blooded murderers, then that’s ok with you too.

This mean-spirited conservative is out.