The Gaffe Twins strike again

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 23, 2008 10:42 AM

Geez, I thought McCain was off to a bad start this week.

Then along came the Gaffe Twins again.

Joe Biden’s trashing his campaign’s moronic e-mail attack ad: “Terrible.”

Barack Obama’s trashing Joe Biden’s initial refusal to back the AIG bailout: He “should have waited.”

Joe Biden’s changing the campaign’s position on clean coal: He’s against it. Obama’s for it. (Vid is here.)

And via reader Richard J:

Michelle & Co. -

Looks like Joe Biden, in his interview with Katie Couric, was copying off the wrong classmate’s exam again. He said (video here):

“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed. He said, ‘look, here’s what happened.’”

My recollection is that the stock market crash was in 1929. Two problems here: Television did not even exist in 1929, and FDR was elected in 1932, so he wasn’t even the leader at the time of the crash. When Joe was in history class, was he cheating by looking over the class dunce’s shoulder, or does he just make this stuff up? Of course, TV celebrity Katie Couric also didn’t note that Biden’s statement was doubly incorrect. Her goal was a softball puff piece.”

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  1. #1
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:46 am, volt200 said:

    That Biden/Couric clip is priceless.

    Too bad so few Americans understand US history enough to get it.

  2. #2
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:46 am, magicarb said:

    Of course, TV celebrity Katie Couric also didn’t note that Biden’s statement was doubly incorrect. Her goal was a softball puff piece.”

    Katie Couric is a softball puff piece.

  3. #3
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:46 am, backwoods conservative said:

    And a sizeable portion of the population thinks these guys are more qualified to be President than Sarah Palin. :roll:

  4. #4
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Joe Biden is starting to sound like Bluto in “Animal House.”

    “Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the German’s bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain’t over now! Cause when the going gets tough.. The tough get goin’. Who’s with me?”

  5. #5
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 am, Salt said:

    How can Obama unite the country as he claims he can if he cannot even get on the same page as his VP candidate?

  6. #6
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:49 am, greysheepdog said:

    Sounds like they’re setting up for a Biden exit and a Hillary entrance…..

  7. #7
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:52 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    My recollection is that the stock market crash was in 1929. Two problems here: Television did not even exist in 1929, and FDR was elected in 1932, so he wasn’t even the leader at the time of the crash. ”

    Nonsense! And I will not listen to such heresy. FDR saved us all by winning the Civil War and then getting the country to work together for the first successful man to walk on the moon. So dont go buying into the revisionist history by saying that TV did not exist in 1929. It has always existed just like my iPod.

  8. #8
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:52 am, The Master said:

    Does Karl Rove have these clowns on some kind of mind control??

  9. #9
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:54 am, 7thson said:

    After Obama’s “McCain can’t use a computer ad”, this should give Team McCain a great ad. Obama slinks in the shadows at every crisis waiting for things to play out so he can take credit for the solution while Joe just makes it up as he goes along.

    They could call it “the dream team”!

  10. #10
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:54 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    FDR in 1929… on TELEVISION!!!!

    HARRRR!!!!

    Oh.. this is priceless.

    What’s next? JFK’s Blackberry usage?

    Keep em comin’ Boys… you’re doin’ great!

  11. #11
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:55 am, The Master said:

    Don’t argue with Biden on FDR’s response to the stock market crash. Biden may have been alive then to see it in person.

  12. #12
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:55 am, ajmontana said:

    Both these guys are a bad flippin joke.

  13. #13
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:55 am, Cosmo said:

    Nice to see Obama reaching across the aisle to Joe Biden.

  14. #14
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:55 am, denver republican said:

    And it was McCain who didn’t properly vet his running mate?

  15. #15
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:56 am, b-cat said:

    “When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed. He said, ‘look, here’s what happened.’”

    Don’t stop there, Joe, now you got me interested. Then what did he say? What did happen? C’mon!

  16. #16
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:57 am, aunursa said:

    There’s plenty of material for the next series of McCain ads: “Obama vs Biden”.

  17. #17
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 am, DBNinKY said:

    “When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed. He said, ‘look, here’s what happened.’”

    But…but…I thought Vice President Palin was supposed to play ill-educated airhead in this race? At least that’s what Tina Fey and Democrat Charlie Rangel told me!

  18. #18
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 am, Misscheryl said:

    Salt said:
    How can Obama unite the country as he claims he can if he cannot even get on the same page as his VP candidate?

    Egos are hard to control.

  19. #19
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 am, Paul Revere said:

    I’m sure he meant Teddy Roosevelt. Errr…wait…uhhhhh… :-D

  20. #20
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 am, Cosmo said:

    FDR on television in 1929…
    Al Gore being rocked to sleep by “Look for the Union Label…”
    John Kerry a war hero…

    They ought to replace the donkey with a unicorn to complete the fantasy.

  21. #21
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:00 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:54 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    What’s next? JFK’s Blackberry usage?

    We need to know what exactly JFK knew and when he knew it. Is it too late to subpoena JFK’s emails?

    Maybe we can find one that Marilyn Monroe sent to him…

  22. #22
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:01 am, Misscheryl said:

    Cosmo – funny stuff! Great idea…a unicorn baawwaahhaaaaahaaaa!!

  23. #23
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:02 am, 1sttofight said:

    Reality is a foreign concept to a liberal.

  24. #24
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:02 am, b-cat said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 am, Cosmo said:
    They ought to replace the donkey with a unicorn to complete the fantasy.

    I’d be more in favor of a chimera, a multi-headed monster.

  25. #25
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am, Cosmo said:

    b-cat: choose your mythical monster: hydra, Medusa, etc. It mattereth not…

  26. #26
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am, DBNinKY said:

    You don’t suppose wacky statements like these are deliberate to clear the way for Biden’s exit and Hillary’s entrance?

    That’d make the perfect excuse for Biden to exit the campaign laying it off on fatigue and not the fact that he brings nothing to the ticket, and that he’s afraid to face VP Palin in the debates.

  27. #27
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am, xler8bmw said:

    You can’t buy comedy like this!

  28. #28
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am, MrOlympia said:

    Can’t wait to see the drive-bys jump on these gaffs….cough AHEM!

    I’m sure Keith Olberdork will have them both on to “explain” what they really meant. Cafferty will “spin” it into an attack on McCain. Hissy Matthews will say it was interpreted wrong, that Uhbama is so smart we just didn’t “understand”. NBC, CBS, ABC anchors will not mention anything about the gaffes, but we will hear constant drumbeat about “race”, Republican corruption, blah blah blah blah as usual.

  29. #29
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:10 am, mchristian said:

    Maybe Senator Obama and Senator Biden should put their computer skills to use and e-mail each other about what they are going to say.

  30. #30
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:10 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    No, that was the Pre Television invented by algore to publicize his new internet and Carbon Credits.

    Just another bitter American clinging to my God and guns (gas guzzling, global warming pick-up truck too!)

  31. #31
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:10 am, Lucifer Jones said:

    Looks like a Kabuki dance that leads to Biden’s departure. I might be wrong but going through all of this turmoil to bring on Hillary will just make the Obama leadership look tenuous.

    I don’t believe bubba’s claim yesterday that hill-dog did not want to VP slot.

  32. #32
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am, backwoods conservative said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am, DBNinKY said:

    You don’t suppose wacky statements like these are deliberate to clear the way for Biden’s exit and Hillary’s entrance?

    Nah, that’s just Joe doing what he does best.

  33. #33
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am, SpeakEasy said:

    When the British landed at Plymouth Rock during the Revolutionary War, President Washington sent a frantic telegram to Ben Franklin…….

    Biden will get a pass. Accuracy is not important to liberals as long as it makes you feel all warm inside.

    Where I come from that is called “talking out of your sphincter.”

  34. #34
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am, emjem24 said:

    “When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed. He said, ‘look, here’s what happened.’”

    Does this guy know anything about history? About anything? When has he walked in Joe Schmoe’s shoes?

    It’s really quite amazing that liberals have no knowledge of history and many of their comrades are teaching the revision edition to our kids. No freaking wonder that not only are many in the country like blacks caught in a time warp, many seem to think they can recreate history and get away with it.

    Joe Biden: Stuck on Stupid. :roll:

  35. #35
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:12 am, Marshall Russ said:

    When the market crashed in”29″ the reason it was so severe is that it lasted for 10 years. The regulations imposed by the government slowed the recovery. And now we see the same thing happening. Let’s just through tax payer dollars at it. That will fix it.

  36. #36
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 am, CO2 Producer said:

    First thing that ran through my head when glancing at the headline with the accompanying picture: dramatic prairie dog. Dang interwebs.

    I’ll be back if I have anything substantive to say, which means I may never comment here again. (Keep your fingers crossed!)

  37. #37
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 am, CorpsmanPinoy said:

    Wow and all I can do is shake my head that people are actually going to vote for these two idiots.

  38. #38
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 am, rplatt said:

    Biden and Obama make the Keystone Cops look like the epitome of organization and planning. What a couple of dolts.

  39. #39
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:15 am, mz.josephine said:

    Thanks everyone for the laughter. You are all great — and no troll to spoil the hilarity.

    Keep ‘em comin’ J.Biden!

  40. #40
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:17 am, Marc said:

    Katie Couric has no knowledge of history. She would not know that Hoover was president in 1929, nor would she know that the stock market crashed in 1929, nor would she know that television was not around in 1929, at least people didn’t have it in their homes. And add to this the fact that Katie Couric is a Democrat with a capital D. Her family is a prominent Democrat family in Virginia. Her sister, who was a wonderful person, ran for Lt. Governor on the Democrat side in Virginia. She was very moderate in her views for a Democrat and would have made a good Lt. Governor. But Katie should fess up that she is indeed a Democrat.

  41. #41
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:19 am, emjem24 said:

    Marshall Russ said:
    When the market crashed in”29″ the reason it was so severe is that it lasted for 10 years. The regulations imposed by the government slowed the recovery. And now we see the same thing happening. Let’s just through tax payer dollars at it. That will fix it.

    Oh, and villify those evil rich and Republicans too. Don’t forget that. Right outta the Dem playbook. ;-)

  42. #42
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 am, cpodug said:

    “Well, that’s another fine mess you’ve gotten me into!”

    These two couldn’t do any more if they were TRYING to lose the election!

  43. #43
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:27 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Ah, liberals. Comparing the stock market crash of 1929 to today. Unbelievable.

    I see this as a buying opportunity folks. And that’s exactly what I did yesterday. Call me a bottom feeder, but there are a lot of good stocks out there to invest in for the long term.

    Too bad, our so-called Dem leaders don’t have any guts these days — all they talk about is doom and gloom.

    And Obama laughs at McCain’s lack of knowledge in economics. Doubt he ever took a course himself.

  44. #44
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:36 am, BrianNY said:

    It’s unmistakable to believe that Joe Biden owns some serious mental impediments that have never been correctly treated.

    For three decades now, he has been politically rewarded for acting like a total, egotistical ass who has limited control over exhibiting poor judgment.

    He was forced to abandon his Presidential aspirations in 1987-88 because of his uncontrollable urges to lie about his personal accomplishments and experiences, and yet 20 years later, Barack Obama sees him fit to be first in line to a potential Presidency.

    A man who pretends to be something he is not, does not a leader make.

  45. #45
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:41 am, flmom said:

    Biden is living proof that Washington has more than it’s share of idiots.

  46. #46
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:42 am, AmericanPatriot said:

    I know that’s just Joe being a loose cannon but I’m betting he’s under the bus if the polls don’t improve dramatically soon.

    Do we have any doubt that Hillary is the October surprise?
    As far as winning, she would have been his best choice.
    Now, he can replace Joe and regain some of the Women’s vote that he lost .

  47. #47
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 am, Milwaukee Mike said:

    But I’ll bet Biden can spell tomato correctly.

  48. #48
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:47 am, hatfield said:

    Joe Biden invented the television, right after algore invented the internet.

  49. #49
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 am, JustAThought said:

    Biden’s words are easily translated: “Here is reason number 143,235 to trade me for Shrillary, Barack.”

    Unintentional gaffes? Me thinks not.

  50. #50
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 am, WarEagle82 said:

    I don’t buy the theory that Biden will step aside and Clinton will take his place. That would require Obamassiah to admit he has poor judgment and is incapable of pulling this off without Clinton. I just don’t see that happening.

    Now if Joe is found in Marcy Park one morning….

  51. #51
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 am, 7thson said:

    AmericanPatriot said:
    Do we have any doubt that Hillary is the October surprise?

    The surprise is that the dems are probably ready to dump both of these bozos for Hillary and a Veep pick of her choosing.

  52. #52
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:52 am, Milwaukee Mike said:

    The MSM was questioning why Biden has gotten lost since the announcement of Palin. They then decide to change focus back on him, and consequently remember that not having him in the spotlight is actually a good thing for the dems! LOL!

  53. #53
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 am, wighttrasch said:

    I refuse to watch the video, in case they’re counting the hits on that page. I will never give Couric the satisfaction of ‘made ya look!’.

    I despise CBS.

    I just don’t think there will be a Hillary step-in. I think she wants her own show, not VP.

  54. #54
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:57 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    AmericanPatriot said:
    Do we have any doubt that Hillary is the October surprise?

    I said this a couple of weeks ago, that it would be a tremendous strategy. One week prior to the election. All the news would be on the Dems.

  55. #55
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:57 am, Misscheryl said:

    The 3 stooges = Obama, Obiden and Obillary

  56. #56
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 am, BruceB said:

    This Charlie Gibson in the ABC News room with some late breaking news:

    Take it away Andrea Mitchell:

    “Chuck, I’ve been talking with someone from the Obamma campaign office and it seems that the person who wrote the McCain computer add , had indeed once meet a Republican. Since we all know that Karl Rove is a Republican, in all probability he had some kind of influence on the writing of the add .”
    Back to you Chucky.

    “So what you are saying is that the add is the Republicans fault?”
    “That’s right Charlie! The republicans put another one over on the dumb democrats.”

  57. #57
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am, heathermichelle said:

    *gigglesnort* You guys are amazing. Seems like the only thing left to do is laugh at these morons. Otherwise you’d just cry.

    Hillary has GOT to be wondering how these two managed to beat her. For that matter, I wonder about it too.

  58. #58
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:00 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    “That would require Obamassiah to admit he has poor judgment…”

    Biden is trying to make sure that everyone knows BHO has poor judgment without his having to admit it!

    A local talk host is speculating on if Biden might be experiencing the beginning symptoms of another brain annurism. I wasn’t aware that he has already had two. Why isn’t this condition talked about? He is potentially “one heartbeat away”, no?

  59. #59
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:03 pm, JohnnyD said:

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry:
    Laugh…at the total and complete idiocy of Biden or,
    Cry…at the fact that these are the best candidates half of this country can come up with for President.

    I, I, I am so confused….

  60. #60
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:03 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Obama requested and got a veep candidate who will challenge him. I would be worried if they agreed on everything.

  61. #61
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:03 pm, TaiChiWawa said:

    I think Joe’s American History teacher was Lucy Ramirez.

  62. #62
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:04 pm, John Ansell said:

    Just lowing the bar before the Debate. Either that or they spent too much time at the bar. Idiots. (not saying staying at a bar is a bad thing, just saying)

  63. #63
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Misscheryl said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:03 pm, mistressjustice said:
    Obama requested and got a veep candidate who will challenge him. I would be worried if they agreed on everything.

    I think the issue is that they do it publically, really not very smart. I think it’s a stretch to think Biden could challenge anybody.

  64. #64
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm, Master Shake said:

    Was this before or after FDR sent out an e-mail that the Germans dropped an atomic bomb on Pearl Harbor?

  65. #65
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:14 pm, Misscheryl said:

    mistressjustice said:
    Obama requested and got a veep candidate who will challenge him

    Certainly doesn’t say much about Obama does it. Big Surprise!

  66. #66
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:15 pm, wckelly60 said:

    ROTFLMAO! The truly sad part is that neither Katie Couric or her intrepid crew of editors knew that Joe Biden had just stuck his foot in his mouth and let it go to air.

    One would almost think that someone at SeeBeeESS did this on purpose, but that just couldnj’t be.

    Palin will clean Biden’s clock at the debate.

  67. #67
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:17 pm, Cogs said:

    If Bush had said that, he would be called, “stupid”;
    If McCain had said that, he would be called, “senile”;
    If Palin had said that, she would be called, “inexperienced”.
    But, Biden said that, so the MSM will ignore it.

  68. #68
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 pm, FireBlogger said:

    Why is Bill Clinton on the media circuit, The View, Gretta, etc. of late?

    Paving the way? Inserting Clinton buzz?

    These gaffes by Biden are numerous and cannot be coincidental. No one goes through a 30 year career in Congress as a senator making so many bonehead remarks.

    I don’t think they will let Biden make it to the VP debate. This thing is coming to a head.

  69. #69
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:26 pm, mom2jack said:

    I think that lead photo has “caption contest” written all over it.

    OBAMA: “Now, Joe, how many times do I have to tell you. You’re running as MY vice president.”

    JOE: “Huuurhhh???”

  70. #70
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm, lgm said:

    Yes, FDR went on the radio, not teh TV. “We have nothing to fear but fear itself” was audio only. Here’s what FDR did not do that the Republicans did then and are trying to do now:

    Say not to worry, that everything would work out “in the long run” (In the long run, we’ll all be dead – famous rejoinder from Keynes). He didn’t say people losing their jobs were whiners.

    Once again you’re nit picking at details because you have no defense against the actual message.

  71. #71
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pm, CyberCipher said:

    This is off topic, but the quote that I remember from the 1929 stock market crash came from none other than the Sultan of Swat (Babe Ruth). Not long after the crash, a reporter asked Babe Ruth if he felt guilty that he made more money that year than President Hoover. The Babe said something like, “Not at all — I had a better year than President Hoover.”

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm, Master Shake said:

    Was this before or after FDR sent out an e-mail that the Germans dropped an atomic bomb on Pearl Harbor?

    My collie says:

    Don’t stop him now, he’s on a roll.

  72. #72
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:29 pm, Lucifer Jones said:

    Yes Fireblogger thay are sending up the trial balloons.

    Which raises the question: does one get what he/she/it votes for?

  73. #73
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:29 pm, mchristian said:

    mistressjustice said:
    Obama requested and got a veep candidate who will challenge him.

    Yes, the challenge is to get Biden to follow his lead and stop stepping in the “minefield” of his own words.

  74. #74
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:30 pm, b-cat said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm, lgm said:
    Once again you’re nit picking at details because you have no defense against the actual message.

    Because the actual message is nonsense.

  75. #75
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:30 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    “Obama requested and got a veep candidate who will challenge him.”

    To a gaffe contest?

    Well, it is something they both seem to be prolific at!

  76. #76
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:31 pm, mistressjustice said:

    I think the issue is that they do it publically, really not very smart. I think it’s a stretch to think Biden could challenge anybody.

    McCain and Palin disagree about ANWAR publicly. The President sets the policy agenda. The Veep has to fall in line, but I would respect a veep who disagrees from time to time. Now if they are on different pages about major issues like going to war, or overall economic philosophy, I would be worried. I have no problem with Biden disagreeing with the “email ad” either. Although, I found nothing wrong with the ad, it was a little silly. I don’t want my candidate to share a brain. I do want them to agree with general beliefs concerning the direction of the country.

  77. #77
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:32 pm, beenthere said:

    Television did not even exist in 1929”

    In fact television did exist in 1929, but it was an experimental, highly localized technology. There is a story that TV actors of the time complained about the heavy make-up they had to wear to be discerned on the early BW screens. Television as a network, nationwide technology did not come into being until a generation later.

    To most of Obama/Biden’s followers, of course, television has been around since the Big Bang. History began with the iPod, and the pyramids were built during the Nixon administration. So none of this will affect the popularity of the double-gaffe twins. And the polls, now shifting back to Obama, are reflecting that unhappy fact.

  78. #78
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:34 pm, madchef said:

    And of course we all remember how much mail Getty Berg got after Lincoln gave out his address.

    Someone needs to make a “Best of Biden” dvd, this guy is a riot.

  79. #79
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:34 pm, Rob said:

    mistressjustice said:
    Obama requested and got a veep candidate who will challenge him.

    Yeah, and her name is Sarah Palin!

  80. #80
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:34 pm, CyberCipher said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm, lgm said:
    Once again you’re nit picking at details because you have no defense against the actual message.

    I promise to consider the message once that I somehow get past the fact that the messenger is a complete moron. Sorry. My bad.

    My collie says:

    Wait. There was a message?

  81. #81
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:34 pm, mattm said:

    The two of them can’t even stay on the same page on the campaign trail. What are we to expect if/when they are elected.

  82. #82
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:35 pm, purplepeep said:

    mistressjustice said:
    Obama requested and got a veep candidate who will challenge him. I would be worried if they agreed on everything.

    MsJustice, I don’t know that you’d wanna use “challenged” in reference to a Prez or Veep candidate.

    As MsCheryl sez, it’s not wise to conduct spats in public. The funny thing here is how do you recover from a gaffe that involves not knowing FDR used radio (e.g. his “fireside chats”), when the stcok market crashed (that’s basic history) and who was President when it did crash?

    By way of some history, FDR is credited as being the first President to be seen on TV. It was at the NY World’s Fair ten years later in 1939, thoogh. Interestingly enough, Herbert Hoover was on TV before him in 1927, the image being transmitted by cable, but Hoover was just Secretary of Commerce at the time. That would have had to be using “mechanical” TV. Electronic TV didn’t come along until the following year. Interesting to me at least – I’m a fan of an old electronics stuff.

  83. #83
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:35 pm, sandyb said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:00 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:
    “That would require Obamassiah to admit he has poor judgment…”

    Saw clips of Bubba Clinton on the View yesterday and when asked who was going to win, he said Obama. I don’t think his ego would be able to withstand being wrong, so I guess ACORN must have enough votes to pull it off.

  84. #84
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:37 pm, Last Massachusetts Conservative said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm, lgm said:
    Yes, FDR went on the radio, not teh (sic)TV. “We have nothing to fear but fear itself”

    lgm, Didn’t you read the begining of this thread, and don’t you know your history? FDR was NOT president in 1929! Get it now????

  85. #85
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:37 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    “this guy is a riot.”

    I crack up everytime Rush plays Biden soundbites and ends them with a rimshot!

  86. #86
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:38 pm, IndyRich said:

    Actually, Richard J is incorrect in some of his facts. Television did, in fact, exist in 1929.

    The Federal Radio Commission issued the first Television station license in 1928.

    However, in 1936, there were only about 200 television sets in use throughout the world.

    His point that FDR did not do any TV addresses during his presidency is correct, though.

  87. #87
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:39 pm, rambler said:

    You got it, Cogs (#67)!
    The only reason BO is running is because the dems couldn’t come up with someone better. BO thought that since the country was so annoyed with the Bush administration that a squirrel could have run and won POTUS. He never thought that he would really have to run after he put Hillary out of the picture. He is still suffering from his malignant narcissism.

  88. #88
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    Getting alot of Cliff Kleven info on this thread!

  89. #89
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:45 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Obama and Biden Coordination Meeting

    Biden: You know the fellows’ names?
    Obama: Certainly!
    Biden: Well then who’s on first?
    Obama: Yes!
    Biden: I mean the fellow’s name!
    Obama: Who!
    Biden: The guy on first!
    Obama: Who!
    Biden: The first baseman!
    Obama: Who!
    Biden: The guy playing first!
    Obama: Who is on first!
    Biden: Now whaddya askin’ me for?
    Obama: I’m telling you Who is on first.
    Biden: Well, I’m asking YOU who’s on first!
    Obama: That’s the man’s name.
    Biden: That’s who’s name?
    Obama: Yes.
    Biden: Well go ahead and tell me.
    Obama: Who.
    Biden: The guy on first.
    Obama: Who!
    Biden: The first baseman.
    Obama: Who is on first!

  90. #90
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:47 pm, Isnala said:

    I’m a mil absentee voter and just received my ballot yesterday. (mailing it in tomorrow :) That being said how can they change running mates now and have a valid election with ballots already being sent and returned?

    Would that kind of change invalidate the current ballets and force them to print/send out a new one. And what would happen if they couldn’t print and send new ballots out in time for them to be returned by election day? Would the old ballots count?
    Also if they did this could this open the chance of some ballots that were supposed to be thrown out, not thrown out and counted. What would happen if they changed the order on the new ballots and placed the one party where the other was on the first ballot that the old ballots are counted but votes for one party get miss counted for another????

    A change now could open things up for a lot of potential voter fraud/ballot manipulation.

    Ish

  91. #91
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:50 pm, purplepeep said:

    IndyRich said:
    Actually, Richard J is incorrect in some of his facts. Television did, in fact, exist in 1929.

    Yup, Philo Farnsworth got the idea of using scanlines for electronic video transmission while he was plowing on his farm. He debuted the first public transmission in 1928. Before that was mechanical TV – a couple links for the curious:

    Mechanical TV Picture

    YouTube – a mechanical TV program

  92. #92
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:50 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Actually the photo reminds me of Shaggy & Scooby-doo. Biden is the dawg, of course.

  93. #93
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:53 pm, GraniteMan said:


    Of course, TV celebrity Katie Couric also didn’t note that Biden’s statement was doubly incorrect. Her goal was a softball puff piece.”

    For the MSM there are NO wrong answers from O & Jo

  94. #94
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:54 pm, sambo said:

    mom2jack said:
    OBAMA: “Now, Joe, how many times do I have to tell you. You’re running as MY vice president.”

    Now in all fairness…Obama did announce Biden as ‘his presidential canidate’.

  95. #95
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:54 pm, fmfnavydoc said:

    TV was in the experimental phase at that time (Philo Farnsworth demonstrated it to the press in 1928). FDR did not take office until 1933 (IIRC)…I guess that Joe missed out on those American History Classes at Syracuse.

    I guess American History isn’t a required subject for members of the MSM, either…

  96. #96
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:55 pm, purplepeep said:

    Milwaukee Mike said:
    Getting alot of Cliff Kleven info on this thread!

    Yeah, Mike, there are some things ya just don’t wanna get me started on, for sure.

    And, in pursuit of even more trivia – the last name is actually spelled “Clavin”. :)

  97. #97
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:58 pm, bear1909 said:

    Bidet the BobbleHead….fit to lead?

    The Dhimmicrat Presidential candidate is unfit to lead a voter registration drive. The VP candidate is just a dullard.

    Does the MSM really believe that popularity is the reason we should elect these two dumb bunnies? Every piece on the election last nite on local news at 10 and 11 made some reference to how popular Flinchy is…. and yet looking at the video shot of the “crowds” you could see how thin they are.

    I think the debates, barring a complete screw up by McCain, should finish these knuckleheads.

  98. #98
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 12:58 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On September 23rd, 2008 at 10:49 am, greysheepdog said:

    Sounds like they’re setting up for a Biden exit and a Hillary entrance…

    I agree with “setting up for a Biden exit”, but I’m still not convinced that Hillary Clinton would be the replacement.

    I continue to believe that Obama is the RusCom candidate, while Clinton and McCain are the ChiCom candidates.

    If Obama replaces Biden, I think it will be with a RusCom woman…
    Nancy Pelosi, perhaps?

    As for McCain, his stands on Amnesty and AGW taxes are in alignment with Hillary and the ChiComs. I believe that the only reason McCain picked Palin is because Huckabee and his delegates from multiple states were ready to walk out of the convention if McCain picked a pro-choice VP.

    A lot goes on behind the scenes…

    John McCain did a lot of questionable things to get the Republican Nomination. For those who want more explanation of what I mean, search my past posts on my blog. “Values Voters” are America’s largest voting block, and after refusing to attend “Values Voters” Debates twice, McCain finally conceded the VP slot when it became clear that not doing so could have cost him the Republican nomination. That’s behind us now, and McCain made a wise choice to foresake his original VP choice and go with a VP that has electrified both fiscal and social conservatives.

    John “Agent of Intolerance” McCain gets my vote because Sarah! gives me hope that things actually can change in Washington, D.C.

    If you liked the “Reagan Revolution“, the sequel will be even better:
    the “Palin Revolution“.

  99. #99
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm, purplepeep said:

    GraniteMan said:

    “Of course, TV celebrity Katie Couric also didn’t note that Biden’s statement was doubly incorrect. Her goal was a softball puff piece.”

    For the MSM there are NO wrong answers from O & Jo

    I think it was due just as much to her being as clueless as Joe on what happened when.

    Like the term “Ojo” to denote this Dem celebrity couple, though, lol.

  100. #100
    On September 23rd, 2008 at 1:03 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    “ITookTheRedPill said: ”

    I’ll stick with Palin, the “NoCom” candidate!

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