“Unfortunately”

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 25, 2008 05:57 PM

A reader noticed something interesting while exploring Barack Obama’s voter registration website, Vote for Change. If you answer “no” to a question about U.S. citizenship, you get this screen:

Says reader Chad: “I just thought it was interesting that the Obama campaign thought that it was ‘unfortunate’ that only US citizens could vote for him in our election. Maybe if he gets in he will rectify that wrong as well.”

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Comments


  1. #469152
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, rommsey said:

    Bahahahahahaha!

  2. #469155
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, The Master said:

    I’m sure the Empty Messiah is very disappointed that French and German citizens in particular can’t vote for him.

  3. #469158
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:04 pm, MtsEdge said:

    unfortunately

    for Obama, perhaps, it is.

  4. #469159
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:04 pm, The Master said:

    This reader Chad has a stronger stomach than me if he can explore Obama’s website. I wouldn’t last 30 seconds on that site without getting sick to my stomach. And MyBO.com? WTF? I can’t help but think “my body odor.”

  5. #469162
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:07 pm, MagnumOpus said:

    I’ll bet if you click the “NEXT” button, you are redirected to ACORN’s website.

  6. #469163
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:07 pm, PhredE said:

    Geez, I swear, some days I think my head is going to explode…. [sigh]

    “Unfortunately” my a$$. I don’t apologize to anyone for limiting the right to vote to ONLY citizens. There is nothing “unfortunate” about that fact. It is written into law that way for a reason.

    Also – reminder to all you illegal aliens that are subject of current ‘voter registration’ efforts (as reported by various news sources today…): You MUST be a citizen of the United States to even REGISTER to vote in a Federal election. If you even register to vote when not legally allowed to, you are committing a felony.

  7. #469164
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:08 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    And MyBO.com? WTF? I can’t help but think “my body odor.”

    Me too. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near mybo. To stinkey

  8. #469166
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:08 pm, 7thson said:

    Unfortunately, only US citizens are eligible to register to vote.

    Follow this link to become a citizen in time for the election!!

  9. #469165
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:08 pm, gippergirl said:

    frightening…am surprised he managed to have it written in english…”oprima aqui para cambia en espanol”…

  10. #469168
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, CyberCipher said:

    I’m sure that the terrorists are disappointed.

    My collie says:

    On the other hand, a terrorists’ bomb IS his vote.

    Yeah, but thanks to the American G.I., there’s not nearly as many of them still around to register their “vote”.

  11. #469169
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, LC said:

    Is that actually unfortunate? Obama really, really scares me.

  12. #469171
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:10 pm, ctmom said:

    What happens when you select NEXT?

  13. #469175
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:16 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    unfortunately he is a candidate for president

  14. #469176
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:17 pm, NW Mike said:

    What happens when you select NEXT?

    A message box appears saying Registration Accepted

  15. #469177
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:17 pm, Rogue said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:08 pm, 7thson said:
    Unfortunately, only US citizens are eligible to register to vote.
    Follow this link to become a citizen in time for the election!!

    I’m thinking along these lines….you’ll notice The One only says that US Citizens can register to vote. Doesn’t say anything about voting period. He is a Chicago Democrat politician after all, home of “Vote Early, Vote Often”

  16. #469178
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:18 pm, Khyris said:

    Meh, this wasn’t really worth a blog post… because it’s asking about the user’s citizenship first (and this page is a response) the “unfortunate” person here is implicitly the user. I agree that people who aren’t u.s. citizens are to varying degrees unfortunate.

    If he makes some Gaffe like “It’s unfortunate that Europeans can’t vote in this election.” Yeah, then skewer him.

  17. #469180
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:19 pm, MagnumOpus said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:10 pm, ctmom said:

    What happens when you select NEXT?

    You are redirected to ACORN’s website, of course.

  18. #469181
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pm, jdubya said:

    If Hopey Dopey got it his way, we would be speaking German by now in thanks for all the votes those funny Krauts* would give him for visiting Deutschland and asking them for support.

    Viva Barry O’Douchebag!

    *(I can say Kraut since I am 100% American Mutt)

  19. #469182
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, 7thson said:

    Rogue said:
    “Vote Early, Vote Often”

    Voter ID? We don’t need no stinking voter ID!!

  20. #469183
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:23 pm, mchristian said:

    When you are a global citizen, like Senator Obama, you are called to bring the world together. Unfortunately, we are all kept separate by things like borders and nationalities. Also, he would be elected in a landslide if the EU and Middle East were allowed to vote.

    The last time we were all brought together was in the eighties, for a Coke. I think I’d like that better than a President Obama.

  21. #469185
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:24 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    that’s rich.

  22. #469188
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:27 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    In light of domestic and global events, this is blogworthy…wow, the right has really become unhinged. I sense panic.

  23. #469191
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:30 pm, JerseyNic said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:18 pm, Khyris said:
    Meh, this wasn’t really worth a blog post… because it’s asking about the user’s citizenship first (and this page is a response) the “unfortunate” person here is implicitly the user. I agree that people who aren’t u.s. citizens are to varying degrees unfortunate.

    If he makes some Gaffe like “It’s unfortunate that Europeans can’t vote in this election.” Yeah, then skewer him.

    I would only use “unfortunately” in the “unfortunately for you” sense if I were being sarcastic, and that’s clearly not the case here. Otherwise, to begin a sentence with “Unfortunately” means that whatever follows is unfortunate – not the person being addressed.

  24. #469196
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:34 pm, uhangtight said:

    i thought duh-one was a constitutional lawyer? i thought, being duh-one with the constitutional knowledge he would at least respect it a little more than that comment suggests. unfortunately, indeed, duh-one has attended ivy league schools but came out duh-dopey.

  25. #469198
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:35 pm, Azygos said:

    Congressman says Jews and blacks should beware of Palin. Disgusting but consider the source

  26. #469200
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:36 pm, Cosmo said:

    If I had been Barry’s editor I believe the editor’s mark “w/c” would’ve been employed on “unfortunately.”

    Unfortunately (for him, not me), I am not.

  27. #469202
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, tonynoboloney said:

    Be afraid…………be VERY afraid

  28. #469204
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:39 pm, uhangtight said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:27 pm, TheOtherSide said:
    In light of domestic and global events, this is blogworthy…wow, the right has really become unhinged. I sense panic.

    The only panic I have is from the cheating and fraud being conducted by duh-one’s ACORN extension of campaign workers who are enrolling illegals. This is just one amongst many of their fraudulent handling of voter registration.

  29. #469206
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:41 pm, mogabi said:

    Unfortunate for them, not unfortunate for the US.

  30. #469210
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, billc said:

    I registered as Fred Flintstone, 111 Barneyrubble lane,Bedrock,Ca. and got back a voter reg. application preprinted with the same name,address etc. ready to sign and mail in!

  31. #469211
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:49 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    I think Obama senses panic.
    Gallup Poll 9-25: Obama 46%, McCain 46%.

    Way to get out maneuvered.

  32. #469214
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:51 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:49 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Yes…so nice of you to let me know about the 1 national poll where it is tied. No go look at all of the polls, more specifically state polls. And then look even closer at state polls that actually include cellphones….lol. Are bet is still on right?

  33. #469216
    On September 25th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    Congressman says Jews and blacks should beware of Palin. Disgusting but consider the source.

    Yeah, Alcee Hastings.

    Let’s see. Republican Congressman Duke Cunningham pleads guilty to bribery and he’s serving 7 years.

    Democrat Alcee Hastings is impeached and removed from the federal bench in 1989 for perjury and corruption. What happened to him? He was elected to congress in 1992! Just 3 years later!

    Gotta love those democrats! NOT!

  34. #469219
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:01 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    No go look at all of the polls, more specifically state polls.

    Polls mean absolutely nothing.

    In the 2004 race, one poll over-polled Republicans and showed Bush with a substantial lead. In the weeks that followed, the same poll cut the number of Republicans and increased the number of democrats, until the numbers were close to even. This made John Kerry look like the “comeback kid.”

    All for the glory of getting a socialist elected!

    Socialism – a century of failure proves nothing!

  35. #469221
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:03 pm, Omu said:

    Is this how the right deals with the colossal failure of it’s economic policies? By picking up on innocent words like “unforetunately”, sneering at it and ignoring what your own candidates are doing? Sad, sad people.

  36. #469226
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:10 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Is this how the right deals with the colossal failure of it’s economic policies?

    You mean Jamie Gorelick (D) and Fannie making sure “unfortunate” illegals can over pay for a house they can’t afford with money they don’t earn?

  37. #469231
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, Omu said:

    Polls mean absolutely nothing.

    Except, of course, when they show that Palin is popular. But when they show that women are over the initial novelty of a female VP, and have noticed that Palin is largely antithesis to what the majority of American women regard as fair and compassionate, then they don’t matter.

  38. #469232
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:14 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:03 pm, Omu said:

    Is this how the right deals with the colossal failure of it’s economic policies?

    Actually, it’s more like how we “deal” with the Democrat economic disasters spawned by Jimmy Carter, fortified by Clinton, and carried out to their vicious ends by Obama advisers Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines.

  39. #469234
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:15 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:03 pm, Omu said:

    Is this how the right deals with the colossal failure of it’s economic policies? By picking up on innocent words like “unforetunately”, sneering at it and ignoring what your own candidates are doing?

    No, nor is it how we deal with the colossal failure of the leftist policies that brought about the current meltdown.

    And that’s “unfortunately”, illiterate. You can’t even get your talking points right.

  40. #469235
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:01 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    Polls mean absolutely nothing.

    A poll can mean very little (see #30), but an intelligent look at a conglomeration of polls can mean something, especially when weighting pollsters according to their past performance.

  41. #469237
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Omu – you are awesome – keep bringing them the truth.

  42. #469240
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:18 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, Omu said:

    Except, of course, when they show that Palin is popular.

    Nope. But, the funny thing is, given that the majority of the polls are heavily weighted in favor of the left and their policies, the fact that any of them show any degree of approval for Palin must really be rotting your socks, given that you live and die by them.

  43. #469243
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:19 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Omu – you are awesome –

    And you’re a bigger fool than he/she/it is.

  44. #469246
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    txvet2 & DBNinKY ,

    If it’s all the Democrats fault how come our current Republican administration has done nothing it about it for 8 years? How come we’ve been told everything was just fine until recently? Doesn’t deregulation have anything to do with all of this? And who championed all of this deregulation?

  45. #469248
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    A poll can mean very little (see #30), but an intelligent look at a conglomeration of polls can mean something, especially when weighting pollsters according to their past performance.

    Surprisingly enough, I agree with you – but not the way you think.

  46. #469250
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    TheOtherSide

    Yeh but what you don’t know (as usual) Gallup is a poll that tends to be ahead of the curve. The. bet. is. on.

  47. #469252
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Omu said:

    You sound crazy.

  48. #469259
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Omu said:

    Actually, it’s more like how we “deal” with the Democrat economic disasters spawned by Jimmy Carter, fortified by Clinton, and carried out to their vicious ends by Obama advisers Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines.

    Oh, that’s weird, because – you see – I thought it was actually George W. Bush (he’s a Republican, in case you didn’t know. Republicans are conservative and impose conservative ideals, also) that was in charge for the past 8 years and not Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter. It was conservatism’s nonsensical opposition to regulation that cause this mess.

    Can I remind you that Ronald Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. all left their country in debt when they left office? Bill Clinton got a surplus. Oops, silly me; I forgot how much of a hindrance facts are for conservatives.

  49. #469260
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:27 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Yeh but what you don’t know (as usual) Gallup is a poll that tends to be ahead of the curve.

    If by “ahead of the curve” you mean “historical inaccurate” then I agree.

  50. #469261
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:27 pm, txvet2 said:

    Anyway, the reason I came in on this thread was to take note of the fact that a lot of the subprime problem has to do with financing houses for illegals. It occurred to me that one of the ramifications of this was that home ownership puts them on the county tax roles, which is pretty much all that’s necessary for them to be able to register to vote. And I’d be willing to bet that all of those ACORN counselors running around San Antonio are well aware of that. Of course there may be other elibility requirements that I’m unaware of – but I don’t think proof of citizenship is among them.

  51. #469262
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:29 pm, John Ansell said:

    Flashback

    U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) told participants they must focus on electoral strategies after mobilizing hundreds of thousands in the Loop and elsewhere. Gutierrez said he has given up hope that Congress will pass immigration reform before the November elections.

    “It’s nice to have marches. I go to all of them,” Gutierrez said. “But there is something that has to happen after a march. You register to vote. Congress will only move when it is in fear of losing power.”

  52. #469264
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:29 pm, chapoutier said:

    Yeh but what you don’t know (as usual) Gallup is a poll that tends to be ahead of the curve. The. bet. is. on.

    Really, because 538.com has them listed 25th in terms of their accuracy in prediction this election cycle.

  53. #469265
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:30 pm, chapoutier said:

    Beat me to it TOS.

  54. #469267
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:31 pm, Omu said:

    But, the funny thing is, given that the majority of the polls are heavily weighted in favor of the left and their policies, the fact that any of them show any degree of approval for Palin must really be rotting your socks, given that you live and die by them.

    Hah, so independent, random polling is biased now? Is there any way anything can favour the liberal side without being biased?

    And I didn’t see Michelle Malkin saying polls didn’t matter when she linked to the polls that showed Palin’s initial, brief popularity.

  55. #469274
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:38 pm, John Ansell said:

    OMU Said:

    Bill Clinton Newt Gingrich got a surplus.

    Fixed it for you.

  56. #469292
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Omu said:

    Oh, that’s weird, because – you see – I thought it was actually George W. Bush (he’s a Republican, in case you didn’t know. Republicans are conservative and impose conservative ideals, also) that was in charge for the past 8 years and not Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter.

    If it weren’t for lies, you’d have nothing to post. The policies responsible originated during the Carter and Clinton Administrations (The Community Reinvestment Act was passed in 1993, I think). In addition, the Clinton Justice Department under Janet (The Conqueror Worm of Waco) Reno threatened legal action against lenders who didn’t meet their “quotas” for minority loans. For the past 8 years, the Bush Administration has tried repeatedly to get legislation to rein in Fannie Mae, which by the way has been run by ex-Clinton hacks. They were thwarted by the Democrats in the Senate and House, principally by Dodd (the biggest recipient of Fannie Mae political contributions, as it happens). And Frank was also resistant to any regulation, stating only a few months ago that FNMA was in good shape and didn’t need it. But of course I’m sure you already know this, and are just lying as usual.

    And as for lack of regulation, maybe you should read up on another proximate cause of the debacle – called “mark-to-market”.

  57. #469293
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    chapoutier said:

    Really, because 538.com has them listed 25th in terms of their accuracy in prediction this election cycle.

    You mean the left leaning 538? I guess I can concede the point and go with the aggregate poll that says he’s ahead by 3 points, gosh.

  58. #469296
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:51 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:31 pm, Omu said:

    Hah, so independent, random polling is biased now?

    1) It isn’t random.

    2) They use “fudge factors”.

    You can find these things out by looking at the internals of the polls, quite frequently.

  59. #469297
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:51 pm, navywife91 said:

    Attention trolls!

    Let’s go back, September 10th, 2003, Capitol Hill. The former Treasury Secretary John Snow was testifying before the House Financial Services Committee.

    SNOW: We need a strong world class regulatory agency to oversee the prudential operations of the GSEs and the safety and the soundness of their financial activities.

    RUSH: That’s 2003 in the Bush administration proposing stronger regulation of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. The Democrats rejected the legislation. September 10th, 2003, Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

    FRANK: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not in a crisis. The more people in my judgment exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness, the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial losses to the treasury, which I do not see, I think we see entities that are fundamentally sound financially and withstand some of the disaster scenarios. And even if there were a problem, the federal government doesn’t bail them out. But the more pressure there is there, then the less I think we see in terms of affordable housing.

    I know you probably don’t listen to Rush, but it was very interesting listening to these soundbites today.

    DODD: What the president left out — we don’t need to dwell on this because we gotta look ahead — what the president left out was the cops weren’t on the beat. We had plenty of regulation in the area. The question was the regulators weren’t doing their jobs.

    So, Frank now claims there isn’t enough regulation and that’s BushReaganBush’s fault. Dodd says there is plenty of regulation, but they weren’t doing their jobs. Who to believe, who to believe?

    There is plenty of blame to go around, but you guys really ought to read MM’s other threads from today before you think we’re all blaming only Dems. At least we can be honest and criticize our own, but all you can do is point at Republicans and say “they started it”!

  60. #469298
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:51 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:38 pm, John Ansell said:

    OMU Said:

    Bill Clinton Newt Gingrich got a

    surplus.
    Fixed it for you.

    You do realize that Newt didn’t become Speaker until 1995 don’t you. You do realize that the decline from our deficit to a surplus under Clinton was on a constistent slope…1993: -255b , 1994: -203b, 1995: -164b, 1996 (Newts first budget): -107. It seems to me like it was as much Clinton if not more.

  61. #469301
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:52 pm, Omu said:

    Fixed it for you.

    Are you actually serious?! Newt Gingrich opposed President Clinton on almost everything, that’s what he’s remembered for as Speaker. Not only that, but while Bill was actually working on getting America out of the debt Reagan and Bush Sr. had left for our children, Gingrich was trying to impeach and persecute him for a personal failing. Newt left as Speaker in 1998, 2 years before Bill Clinton’s term ended.

    Oh, that’s right, facts are disposable to conservatives, right?

  62. #469302
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:53 pm, swmbo said:

    I’m beginning to think we need to go back to only land owners can vote. It’s their money on the line so shouldn’t they get a bigger say on how it is spent. I know some things I would have to vote against.

  63. #469305
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:54 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    chapoutier said:

    Really, because 538.com has them listed 25th in terms of their accuracy in prediction this election cycle.

    You mean the left leaning 538?

    How about the right-leaning RCP regarding the 2004 election then.

  64. #469311
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:57 pm, DBNinKY said:

    #47On September 25th, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Omu said:

    “…George W. Bush (he’s a Republican, in case you didn’t know. Republicans are conservative and impose conservative ideals… .”

    The dickens, you say! Imagine that – Republicans actually govern by their convictions. You know, that’s more than Michael Moore wrote about Bill Clinton, whom he dubbed as the best REPUBLICAN president the nation has ever seen.

    Bill Clinton got a surplus.

    Newt Gingrich and a Republican sweep in 1994 did that, thanks in-part to an arm twisting psuedo-president named Dick Morris. If you’ll recall, Clinton’s first two years in office – when we saw the real, unabashed liberal Bill Clinton, were disasterous, or do you suffer with that disease common to most liberals, known as selective memory?

    It was conservatism’s nonsensical opposition to regulation that cause this mess.

    No. It is the result of Carter and Clinton using the apparatus of government to conduct the Democrats’ social experiments with homeownership and urban renewal, circumventing and even exploiting deregulation and the poor.

    Can I remind you that Ronald Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. all left their country in debt when they left office?

    Man, you really are in denial about Obama/Biden blowing it, aren’t you?

    “favour”

    BTW, I thought you were an expatrioted American, what’s up with the /u/ in favor?

  65. #469314
    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:58 pm, navywife91 said:

    Oh, that’s right, facts are disposable to conservatives, right?

    That’s so rich coming from you.

    Newt Gingrich opposed President Clinton on almost everything, that’s what he’s remembered for as Speaker

    Thank God for that! If it weren’t for Newt, Clinton would never have been forced to sign welfare reform. And that’s not the only reason Newt was remembered. They assassinated the man’s character. You guys claimed Newt didn’t want children at school to have breakfast and wanted old people to just die(thanks Algore). As usual, the only way liberals think they can win is to try to destroy someone personally, hence the politics of personal destruction.

  66. #469323
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:05 pm, navywife91 said:

    BTW Topic Police

    If you are so insulted by what is being discussed on one thread here, go somewhere else.

  67. #469325
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:08 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 7:58 pm, navywife91 said:

    As usual, the only way liberals Republicans think they can win is to try to destroy someone personally, hence the politics of personal destruction.

    Fixed it for you. I don’t blame you for feeling that way since you listen to Rush.

  68. #469327
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:10 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    Not only that, but while Bill was actually working on getting America out of the debt Reagan and Bush Sr. had left for our children…..

    Speaking of being factually impaired….

    And – Clinton had a Republican Congress. (Apparently Republicans are only against spending when a Democrat is in the big chair. But hey – who knew?)

  69. #469328
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    As usual, the only way liberals Republicans think they can win is to try to destroy someone Palin personally, hence the politics of personal destruction.

  70. #469329
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    It should have said:

    “At this time only US citizens are allowed to register to vote, but please click on this link (add link button) and in only 5 or less years, you can too – Si, puedo”

  71. #469333
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:14 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    As far as Obama’s “button” goes – I’m actually more concerned about the implication of the “Back” button than the verbiage.

  72. #469336
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:17 pm, navywife91 said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    I listen to Rush, so I guess I’m just a mind-numbed robot, right? I’ve listened to him since the Gulf War because he was the only person who said we were going to be successful there. Since my boyfriend (now husband) was there, it was very comforting to me. I didn’t agree with everything he said and still don’t. I actually love Rush because he unabashedly supports the military, instead of certain Dems who accuse them of being murderers and idiots.

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but personally, I’m tired of your peeps calling all of us racists because we won’t vote for your guy.

    How’s that for personal attacks? I wonder what your opinions on those types of statements are?

  73. #469337
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, Omu said:

    No. It is the result of Carter and Clinton using the apparatus of government to conduct the Democrats’ social experiments with homeownership and urban renewal, circumventing and even exploiting deregulation and the poor.

    I don’t think so. Carter had one term, Clinton had two, and you’re telling me that 5 Republican presidencies, as well as Republican control on Capitol Hill from 1994 up until 2 years ago, was not enough to reverse these supposed “social experiments”. Nope, I’m sorry, I’m not buying it.

    You know, that’s more than Michael Moore wrote about Bill Clinton, whom he dubbed as the best REPUBLICAN president the nation has ever seen.

    Since when is Michael Moore representative of liberals and Democrats at large? In any case, are you saying you’re a fan of this man?

    Man, you really are in denial about Obama/Biden blowing it, aren’t you?

    So, when you see a fact you dislike (such as the fact that Republican presidents have a habit of passing debt on to their successors), you use nonsense like this?

    BTW, I thought you were an expatrioted American, what’s up with the /u/ in favor?

    It really ticks the Irish off when I use US English spellings as opposed to European English spellings for certain words, so I guess it’s just habit by this stage, originated in my not wanting to tick the Irish I’m working for off.

  74. #469338
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, navywife91 said:

    Oh, my statement was fine, TOS. You just didn’t like hearing the truth.

  75. #469340
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:20 pm, navywife91 said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, AlohaGuy

    Mahalo, but these guys are lolo.

  76. #469342
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:21 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    #68, nice post. Notice they are ignoring you.

    As for the Obama website, no matter which button you push, it registers you “Present”.

  77. #469345
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:23 pm, Omu said:

    I actually love Rush because he unabashedly supports the military, instead of certain Dems who accuse them of being murderers and idiots.

    Liberals at least accept that our military is not perfect and is not made up entirely of morrally strong and decent people. The US military has done some horrible things. Acknowledging this does not equate to not supporting our men and women in uniform. Conservatives would do well to try to wrap their heads around this concept.

    And anyway, it’s really Republicans that don’t care for the military. If you all did, would you have applauded McCain’s selection of Palin (who has NO EXPERIENCE IN MILITARY MATTERS AT ALL) as VP? No, you wouldn’t have. And yet you did. It’s becoming more and more obvious that Republicans just pretend to be the real champions of the military,

  78. #469347
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:24 pm, navywife91 said:

    I was not defending Che Guevara, I was explaining how his iconic image isn’t about socialism or murder or terrorism at all any more. It’s just style

    You have no credibility, omu.

  79. #469352
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:28 pm, navywife91 said:

    Liberals at least accept that our military is not perfect and is not made up entirely of morrally strong and decent people.

    Actually, most liberals despise the military which is why they would love to decrease funding. No one here believes that every military member is perfect. We just don’t assume they’re all guilty of being murderers, baby killers, torturers, etc. Please don’t tell me to wrap my head around such an idiotic concept.

    You know, I hear Dems and especially libs who are anti military say “Republicans never send their own into war”. Well, let me see, McCain’s son is in Iraq and Palin’s is on the way. But that’s not good enough for you. John Kerry has military experience, but that sure didn’t mean I wanted him to be my husband’s boss. It’s about the person and his/her character.

  80. #469355
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:30 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:14 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    As far as Obama’s “button” goes – I’m actually more concerned about the implication of the “Back” button than the verbiage.

    Probably, if you click on either of the two buttons they will both let you register anyway. Most likely they both link to the same page that says:

    “Well, since you are still here, you obviously REALLY REALLY want to vote, so….. OK!!”

  81. #469365
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Gingrich was trying to impeach and persecute him for a personal failing.

    Last time I checked perjury was not a personal failing.

  82. #469366
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Since when is Michael Moore representative of liberals and Democrats at large? In any case, are you saying you’re a fan of this man?

    Are you kidding? He’s the quintessential liberal – the icon of loud-mouth, blame-America-first Democrats everywhere. And no, I am definitely not a fan of M. Moore; I merely attempted to read one of idiotic books once as an exercise in opposing viewpoints. I gave it up after the first three or so chapters.

    So, when you see a fact you dislike (such as the fact that Republican presidents have a habit of passing debt on to their successors), you use nonsense like this?

    It’s not that simple, to just say that they left the nation in debt as if that was all they did, or imply that it was done as a matter of choice. The debt we incurred under President Reagan (my ideal president) and the first Bush was understandable and, considering that both gave our nation a sense of pride and renewed purpose, it was a fair trade. BTW, no nation should EVER run a surplus – to do so means workers are over taxed.

    “It really ticks the Irish off when I use US English spellings… .”

    OH. So why work in Ireland? I understand there are excellent jobs in Texas (I think you said that’s where you’re from), so why not come home – don’t you miss it?

  83. #469370
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:42 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Omu said:

    You shouldn’t waste your time arguing with this dumb ass Irish liberal, they’re the worst.

  84. #469380
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:48 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    The US military has done some horrible things.

    It’s not as bad as the millions dead in Cambodia caused by the liberal movement in the 1960’s.

    Maybe one day you’ll be able to own up to to that little piece of history but I doubt it.

  85. #469383
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:53 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, DBNinKY said:

    BTW, no nation should EVER run a surplus

    They don’t – neither did Clinton. It’s all accounting tricks and gimmicks (and yes both sides do it).

  86. #469387
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, Omu said:

    Are you kidding? He’s the quintessential liberal – the icon of loud-mouth, blame-America-first Democrats everywhere.

    This is a bizarre statement. Liberals blame America for what America is guilty of. Calling a spade a spade is not unpatriotic.

    Loud mouthed liberals are not anywhere near as common as loud mouthed, ignorant conservatives. In fact, liberals detest the loud mouth, shouting and screaming of Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter and Michael Savage. Even Michael Moore (who is “extreme” in his method by liberal standards) is nothing compared to those on the right. Coulter actually called a presidential candidate a “faggot”, while Limbaugh routinely makes derogatory remarks about Mexicans. The reason Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann are so successful is because they are not like the loud mouthed conservatives that are so adored by the right. The Left is much more interested in substance and sophistication, the Right is more excited by shouting and using charged language.

    BTW, no nation should EVER run a surplus – to do so means workers are over taxed.

    Sorry, but that’s just a ridiculous logic. Where is the US to get the money to invest in America in this case – from China? India? That stuff only weakens this country.

    OH. So why work in Ireland? I understand there are excellent jobs in Texas (I think you said that’s where you’re from), so why not come home – don’t you miss it?

    Well, I don’t think a few spelling alterations is a good enough reason to leave Ireland :P I’m from Dallas, yes, but my wife is Irish so we’ve moved to Mullingar for the time being. I like it here, but I certainly do miss Texas an awful lot!

    Last time I checked perjury was not a personal failing.

    He lied about a personal failing. That’s the point. Do you really think it was ok for Newt Gingrich to waste tax payers time and money to prosecute Clinton over a personal failing?

  87. #469390
    On September 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Unfortunately Hawaii got statehood, we get two more Democrats in the Senate for that leftist island chain and one from Illinois.

    The US military has done some horrible things.

    There was KP, the hair cut and sore feet. Anything in particular you had in mind?

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Get rid of Hawaii and five or six other double Blue and we can get somewhere. Cede them to Mexico and Canada.
    —-

    “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” -George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426.

  88. #469394
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:02 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    There was KP, the hair cut and sore feet. Anything in particular you had in mind?

    ::sigh:: Mail bouy watch in the Artic winter….

  89. #469397
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:09 pm, chapoutier said:

    Aloha,

    You are absolutely correct that liberals were wrong to go after Palin on the personal stuff. Fortunately she has proven more than capable of destroying herself every time, rare as it is, she speaks to the media and tries to talk about the issues.

    We can safely leave any personal issue aside.

  90. #469398
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:10 pm, navywife91 said:

    while Limbaugh routinely makes derogatory remarks about Mexicans.

    I’d like you to tell me exactly what remarks you’re talking about? Please don’t refer to the Obama ad which completely lies about what Rush said.

    The reason Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann are so successful is because they are not like the loud mouthed conservatives that are so adored by the right.

    Successful? Have you seen their ratings. Have you actually listened to Olbermann? I have and there is no angrier person out there. I’d actually compare him to Savage, whom I can’t stand either

    The Left is much more interested in substance and sophistication, the Right is more excited by shouting and using charged language.

    This is such a joke. I know we have some controversial people on our side, but you can’t possibly think the left is more sophisticated. You mean this kind of sophistication?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/24/alcee-hastings-anyone-who-hunts-moose-dont-care-too-much-about-what-they-do-with-jews-and-blacks/

  91. #469401
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:14 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    BTW, no nation should EVER run a surplus – to do so means workers are over taxed.

    Mitt Romney issued refunds to people when he got Massachusetts out of debt and ran a surplus.

  92. #469404
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:15 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    The reason Rachel Maddow

    Yeh I really feel on the level with a lesbian Rhodes Scholar. Lol.

  93. #469406
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:18 pm, Omu said:

    Yeh I really feel on the level with a lesbian Rhodes Scholar. Lol.

    I know it’s hard for conservatives not to be homophobic, disrespectful morons, but it really is getting irritating now. Why does it always have to be such a big deal with you guys?

  94. #469411
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:23 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    He lied about a personal failing. That’s the point. Do you really think it was ok for Newt Gingrich to waste tax payers time and money to prosecute Clinton over a personal failing?

    OK, we’re going in circles here. You may sympathy for Bill Clinton but Newt clearly did not, so what? What’s that compare to the 700 billion wasted on Democrat social engineering initiated by Bill Clinton? Unfortunately no one in my cadre believes this bailout will even work.

  95. #469412
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:24 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    I know it’s hard for conservatives not to be homophobic, disrespectful morons, but it really is getting irritating now. Why does it always have to be such a big deal with you guys?

    Oh yeh, blame it on us guys being intimidated. hahaha.

  96. #469413
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:25 pm, navywife91 said:

    I know it’s hard for conservatives not to be homophobic, disrespectful morons


    Some object to this word—arguing that it literally means “man-fearing,” but the “homo” in “homosexual” and in this word does not refer to the Latin word for “man,” but is derived from a Greek root meaning “same” while the “-phobic” means literally “having a fear of,” but in English has come to mean “hating.” “Homophobic” is now an established term for “prejudiced against homosexuals

    First, I don’t need to come to GK’s aid, but I feel compelled to tell you that Rachael Maddow is a lesbian.

    I’m sick of you and your ilk saying we’re racists, homophobes, bigots, etc. Again you prove the point that the only argument you have against conservatives is name calling. Alcee Hastings must be your hero. Please fly away.

  97. #469417
    On September 25th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, PhredE said:

    “The reason… Keith Olbermann are so successful”

    LMAO. Yeah, he’s so successful that my local cable provider knocked MSNBC off my basic cable channel set completely. MSNBC only has about 10% of the cable news market and continually lags far behind CNN and Fox.

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