Reid and Dodd blame McCain; Schumer tells McCain to “Get out of town;” McCain leaves for debate
Scroll down for updates…11:33am Eastern McCain resumes campaign activities, the debate is on…:
Puke.
Unscrupulous borrower Chris Dodd and Dingy Harry Reid are holding a blame-McCain press conference. After stomping his feet up and down and baiting McCain to take a position on the bailout, Reid is now lambasting McCain for going to Washington and getting involved. “We don’t need presidential politics in this,” he whines. Then why did he publicly demand McCain go on record for or against the bailout?!
(Bill Sammon on FNC on Reid’s laughable claim that a “deal” was on the table and ready to go before McCain arrived and messed it up: “Patently false.”)
Thank God for the House Republicans.
Call yours up and thank them today and urge them to keep looking out for us.
Phone: 202-224-3121.
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More: Chuck Schumer tells McCain to “Get out of town.” A friend on the Hill sends the transcript of Schumer’s remarks (see end of the transcript) and asks: “But what about the Congressmen that created this mess? Shouldn’t they leave town too?”
Exactly.
{09:38:26 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.
[ram]{09:38:32 NSP} (MR. SCHUMER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. SCHUMER: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AND, OF COURSE, WE LIVE IN VERY PERILOUS TIMES, OUR ECONOMY, PARTICULARLY OUR DEBT MARKETS AND OUR CREDIT MARKETS ARE IN VERY SERIOUS SHAPE. TO PARAPHRASE CHAIRMAN BERNANKE, THE ARTERIES OF THE PATIENT, OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM, IS CLOGGED AND THE PATIENT WILL GET A HEART ATTACK. WE DON’T KNOW IF IT WILL BE TOMORROW OR SIX MONTH FROM NOW OR A YEAR FROM NOW. BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, IF WE DON’T UNCLOG THE ARTERIES, A HEART ATTACK WILL OCCUR. SO WE MUST ACT. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME, PARTICULARLY SOME VERY IDEOLOGICAL PEOPLE ON THE HARD RIGHT WHO SAY DO NOTHING AND LET EVERYONE LEARN THEIR LESSON. WELL, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY AT THE HIGH END OF THE SPECTRUM WHO SHOULD LEARN THEIR LESSON. BUT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO WILL BE HURT IF WE DO NOTHING. THE AUTOWORKER WHO WILL BE LAID OFF BECAUSE WE SELL FEWER CARS. THE SMALL BUSINESSWOMAN WHO HAS STRUGGLED TO BUILD UP HER BUSINESS FOR 15, 20 YEARS AND GET — ANT CAN’T GET A LOAN. A WAITRESS AT A RESTAURANT THAT HAS — OF A RESTAURANT THAT HAS TO SHUT DOWN AND CAN’T GET WORK. THAT IS THE DIFFICULTY OF OUR WORLD. IT IS NOT FAIR. IT IS NOT RIGHT. BUT IT IS HOW IT IS. SO WE MUST COME TOGETHER AND WORK IN A BIPARTISAN WAY TO UNCLOG THOSE ARTERIES. AND WE MUST DO IT SOON. WE SHOULD NOT LEAVE HERE, MR. PRESIDENT, UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN. WHETHER IT TAKES A DAY, SEVERAL DAYS, OR A WEEK OR EVEN MORE. WE CANNOT ABANDON OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND WE SHOULD WORK AND I BELIEVE WE WILL STAY HERE AND WORK UNTIL A PLAN IS AGREED UPON AND WE SEE SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THIS RAPIDLY DARKENING TUNNEL. THAT IS THE FIRST POINT I WISH TO MAKE. SECOND, WE NEED TO PASS A GOOD PLAN. THE PRESIDENT’S INITIAL OFFERING WAS RECEIVED WITH, LET’S SAY, LACK OF POPULARITY TO PUT IT KINDLY BY BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS HERE IN THIS CHAMBER AND PEOPLE OUT IN AMERICA. IT’S BECAUSE IT WAS A A $700 BILLION BLANK CHECK. THERE WAS NO HELP FOR TAXPAYERS’ PROTECTION, SO THEY GOT PAID BACK FIRST. THERE WAS NO HELP FOR HOMEOWNERS.
CHAIRMAN BERNANKE TELLS US THAT HOUSE SOMETHING THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. AND IF WE DON’T FIND A FLOOR TO THE HOUSING MARKETS, WE MAY NEED BAILOUT AFTER BAILOUT, UNFORTUNATELY. AND THIS BILL HAD NO PROTECTION FOR HOMEOWNERS. I KNOW SECRETARY PAULSON SAID THAT THE GOVERNMENT OWNS A LARGE SHARE OF THE BONDS, THAT THEY WILL HAVE MORE ABILITY TO RENEGOTIATE MORTGAGES AND AVOID FORECLOSURES. BUT, FRANKLY, IS THAT HOPE OVER REALITY. BECAUSE THE BONDS ARE NOW BROKEN UP IN 40TRAUNCHES AND IF THE GOVERNMENT TENS, 15, 25, OR EVEN 30, IF ONE TRAUNCH HOLDER OBJECTS TO REFINANCING, IT WON’T HAPPEN. WE NEED HELP FOR HOMEOWNERS BEYOND WHAT IS IN THE LEGISLATION. AND
WE NEED TOUGH OVERSIGHT. THIS IS A TOUGH DEMOCRACY. WE ARE KNOWN FOR OUR CHECKS AND BALANCESES. IT HAS SERVED AMERICA WELL FOR OVER 200 YEARS. AND IN AN UNPRECEDENTED TAKING OF POWER TO GIVE SO MUCH POWER TO THE TREASURY SECRETARY WITH NO ONE LOOKING OVER HIS SHOULDER WOULD BE, FRANKLY, NOT THE AMERICAN WAY. AND SO WE NEED TOUGH AND STRONG OVERSIGHT. NOW, THE THIRD POINT I WISH TO — SO POINT ONE, WE WILL WORK UNTIL WE GET THIS DONE. EVEN IF IT MEANS STAYING PAST RECESS.…AND SO WE NEED THE PRESIDENT TO GET THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE IN ORDER. EVEN IF WE WERE TO WANT TO PASS A BILL WITH JUST DEMOCRATIC VOTES, WE COULD NOT. IT’S OBVIOUS. LOOK AT THE MATH. AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE THIS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. WE BEGAN IT YESTERDAY UNDER CHAIRMAN DODD AND CHAIRMAN FRANKS’ LEADERSHIP WHEN WE MET IN THIS CHAMBER — IN THIS BUILDING, AND REALLY CRAFTED OUT A REALLY GOOD COMPROMISE THAT WAS A BASIS TO TAKE TO SECRETARY PAULSON. IT DID FAR MORE FOR TAXPAYERS, FOR HOMEOWNERS, FOR OVERSIGHT THAN THE EXISTING BILL. UNFORTUNATELY, HOWEVER, WE NEEDED A FOUR-LEGGED STOOL AND ONE LEG JUST VANISHED, THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS, IN A WAY THAT NONE OF US STILL UNDERSTAND. IN ADDITION SENATOR McCAIN’S DESIRE, EVEN THOUGH HE HADN’T BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS LEGISLATION AT ALL, TO FLY IN, PUT ANOTHER FLY IN THE OINTMENT AN CREATED MORE TROUBLE. SENATOR — AND CREATED MORE TROUBLE. SENATOR McCAIN, I HAVEN’T HEARD HIM OFFER ONE CONSTRUCTIVE REMARK. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT HE SUPPORTS. DOES HE SUPPORT THE HOW’S PLAN?
DOES HE SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT’S PLAN. BY ALL REPORTS HE HARDLY SPOKE AT THE MEETING, WHICH WAS HIS OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING. HE SPOKE AT THE END AND DIDN’T SAY WHAT HIS VIEWS WHEREAS TO WHETHER HE SUPPORTED EACH PLAN. AND SO WE REALLY NEED TWO
MR. PRESIDENT, ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE. AND WE NEED PRESIDENT BUSH TO TAKE LEADERSHIP. WE NEED PRESIDENT BUSH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, TO GET THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBERS TO SUPPORT HIS PLAN OR MODIFY IT IN SOME WAY TO BRING THEM ON BOARD, YET KEEP THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE MEMBERS, THE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE SENATE AND THE DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS OF THE SENATE ON BOARD. AND,[ram]{09:45:31} (MR. SCHUMER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
SECOND, WE NEED THE PRESIDENT TO RESPECTFULLY TELL SENATOR McCAIN TO GET OUT OF TOWN. HE’S NOT HELPING. HE IS HARMING. WHEN YOU INJECT PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS INTO SOME OF THE MOST DIFFICULT NEGOTIATIONS UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, IT IS FRAUGHT WITH DIFFICULTY. BEFORE McCAIN MADE HIS ANNOUNCEMENT, WE WERE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. NOW AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT, WE ARE BEHIND THE 8 BALL. WE HAVE TO PUT THINGS BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. SO THIS IS A PLEA TO PRESIDENT BUSH, FOR THE SAKE OF AMERICA, PLEASE GET YOUR PARTY IN LINE. GET THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS TO BE MORE CONSTRUCTIVE, GET SENATOR McCAIN TO LEAVE TOWN AND NOT THROW FIRE ON THESE FLAMES. AND MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE. IN FACT, NOT MAYBE. WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO GET SOMETHING DONE. SO, AGAIN, TO REITERATE MY THREE POINTS:ONE, FIRST, WE WILL WORK UNTIL WE HAVE A PRODUCT. THE PERILOUS STATE OF OUR FINANCIAL MARKETS AND OUR NATIONAL ECONOMY, THE DANGER TO AVERAGE AMERICANS NOW UNFORESEEN BUT REAL AND LURKING BEHIND THE SHADOWS SAYS WE CAN DO NOTHING ELSE. TWO, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK FOR A BETTER PLAN THAN THE ONE THE PRESIDENT PROPOSED, WITH PROTECTION FOR TAXPAYERS, HOMEOWNERS, AND REAL OVERSIGHT. AND, THREE, THE PRESIDENT MUST GET HIS REPUBLICAN HOUSE IN ORDER BY GETTING THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS IN LINE AND ASKING SENATOR McCAIN RESPECTFULLY TO LEAVE TOWN, BECAUSE WITHOUT REPUBLICAN COOPERATION WE CANNOT PASS THIS BILL. I YIELD THE FLOOR.
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Update 11:33am Eastern: McCain resumes campaign activities, will attend debate tonight in Oxford, Miss.
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I just called my Congressman’s office. His staffer said calls were 30-2 in opposition to the bailout. (The 2 said we need to “do something…”) But 95% of callers are OPPOSED TO THE BAILOUT.
Knowledge, smoledge. It’s the application of that knowledge that’s important.
Obama’s foreign policy knowledge lead he to whitewashing his website because he was wrong on the surge.
Obama’s economic knowledge? I’ve yet to see it applied. All Democrats talk about raises our taxes and do so whenever they get the chance.
Obama’s knowledge of the Constitution doesn’t matter. As is the case for most Dems. They look to circumvent it at every turn. Obama’s no different.
What else you got?
Oh Dear God, You haven’t looked at the state of Illinois finances lately. We are close to needing a bail out ourselves.
Yeah, I think “afraid” was the word the Vietnamese used too.
“We beat him every day but he still doesn’t look afraid.”
Maybe, maybe not, but at least she can spell it. For sure, she knows more about it than you do. Obama hasn’t shown any sign that he knows anything beyond what he reads on his teleprompter.
So true, so true!
I am concerned though that McCain is going to have trouble getting the truth out. He is going to have to put in place many of his buds in the Senate. He has been hesitant to call them out in the past. Well, except for those on OUR side.
The MSMLSD’s are mocking McCain and saying he did not accomplish anything and this was nothing but a political stunt that has now backfired. I wonder. It seems most people in flyover country do not support this bailout bill and have been flooding the lines of communication in Washington demanding this bill gets killed. As Rush has been saying, the House and Senate could pass this thing without the House GOP.
But I am still nervous about tonight and how McCain is going to politically attack THE MANCHILD and his Senate cronies in order to win this election. Will the truth come out? Will the American people see the truth and know Obama is indeed a ZERO? God help us!
lead he = lead him
#195 Otherside.
What knowledge of foreign policy does BHO have besides his 300+ sources?
What local, state or federal budgets has he managed?
Why does he know the constitution better than her because he went to law school? I went to law school and know it just as well as he does. Oh and by the he wants to put SC judges on the bench to legislate the constitution. If you he really knew the constitution he would know the Judicial branch is the weakest branch (the founders did it on purpose) and SC judges are bound by the constitution to INTERPRET the constitution!
Get a Clue!
Yes and far more experience at actualy governing people.
I will tell you that, and I’ll challenge you to explain why you think differently.
Please, go ahead and cite your evidence that Barack Obama has a good grasp of economics, to pick just one area.
That is only true if your think that belief in socialism equals knowledge of economics.
But go ahead, I want to see your response on this.
It seems that warnings about this scenario go back further than we might have thought.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
Thomas Jefferson
3rd president of US (1743 – 1826)
Just in from Fox News…Agreement due by midnight tonight.
I want to see the details!
Wasn’t it Harry Reid who only last week was whimpering and wringing his hands saying “We don’t know what to do! We don’t know what to do! We never had to deal with someting like this before!” I thought the gutless coward was going to cut his own wrists and throw himself from the podium.
The Republicans should turn the screws on them. Demonstrate the Democrats’ culpability then make them pass their own stinking bill. The American people know who these traitors are.
Obama, the foreign policy expert in action.
Exactly. So, was he being dishonest then, or is he being dishonest now? He kind of blurrs the lines on honesty whenever he opens his mouth.
Hate to quibble with a fellow conservative, but I really don’t think this is accurate. I hate it when people use the word “interpret” in this context, because that implies that they have some leeway. IMO, it should be phrased that they have the obligation to apply the law. If it needs to be interpreted, that is a Congressional failure, which should be corrected by Congress.
#211 Flenser
How about when he wanted to go to the UN about Russia invading Georgia……oooppps they have veto power!
And she can chair a meeting without blowing it up.
The chair of the meeting?
oh crap of = or.
Re-read my post.. there was nothing personal in it. It was a generic ‘anyone’ reference.
Time to go back to the Chiefs locker for some more coffee? lol
Either. Of course, blowing up the chair would be more in the line of a suicide bombing, i.e. Democrat politics.
Is that a small thing? Probably. But gaffe’s just like that are used to try to make Palin seem ignorant.
#213
The SC is to ONLY interpret the constitution! No quibbling here!
You might want to go back and look in history pertaining much to James Madison.
Thank you, Michelle, for staying on top of all of this. I have forwarded many of your posts to everyone I know – and I’m someone who never forwards things to people.
Today, I contacted all the Republicans on the Senate Banking Committee, my Senators and Representatives, House Republican Leader Boehner, the House Republican Conference and more. This craziness has got to stop.
OBVIOUSLY Obama has more experience with the economics of making a 100K in grant money dissapear for one of his campaign buddies. Economic wizardry.
Yeah, I loved his “I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated”
Nobody except Bush, McCain, Patraeus, the Army, the Marine Corps, al Qaeda (not that they liked it, but I bet they anticipated it)…
Even better, how about when he wanted to go to war with Pakistan? Now that’s what I call a foreign policy expert!
I’m sure that TOS will be along shorty to explain the strategic genius behind this idea. Or is it another item that Obama has flip-flopped on?
And Couric was all over this, and Larry King ran the clip over and over and…
No wait, they didn’t, “gotchas” are only for the right.
HAHAHAHA!!!! Glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that!
Let’s not forget the talks with Iran with NO Pre-conditions
Rabid,
Retired Senior Chief here…got any extra coffee???
Is Obama more knowledgeable about the marketplace, and how money works, than is Palin? Probably…consider these questions;
Since taking public office, which one, Palin or Obama has increased their net worth the most?
How? By working hard for a paycheck, or by “gaming” the system?
Here is the important work Obama is doing today while Rome burns.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/anneschroeder/0908/Obama_In_town_working_out.html?showall
Working Out ? Give me a break, his priorities are certainly different than mine.
Another Obama foreign policy idea:
Yes, attacking and destabilizing a very tentative and already unstable ally would be a the sign a of a foreign policy wizard and put him in the ranks of greats like Jimmy Carter.
Being able to google different topics does not make you an expert on foreign policy. Just like being a “community organizer” does not make you experienced to be president.
MCCAIN/PALIN! COUNTRY FIRST!
On September 26th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, TheOtherSide said:
No I have that opinion because it is fact.
Huh?
Facts are facts. Opinions are opinions. Unless one is talking about Obama. Then facts and opinions are one and the same. I’m getting a headache.
TheOtherSide has gone very silent.
LOL, no such luck… I’m too busy stripping and waxing my P-Way again today. But Senior, I swear my eagles were facing inward this morning….
TOS – talking about Obama’s experience. There are two ways to look at “8 years in the Illinois Senate” experience.
8 years
-or-
one year 8 times.
Voting present repeatedly indicates to me Obama’s experience is of the latter type.
As far as 3 years in the US senate – do we get to deduct time out campaigning for POTUS? Given that he’s never even convened a meeting of the committee for which he’s chair, I think we can conclude he doesn’t really have much US Senate experience.
Of course, you knew all that already and you really don’t care what his experience is or results have been. You will worship at his feet regardless.
I would give a LOT of money to hear McCain say those things. But he won’t. He seems to think he has to be nicer than that, unfortunately. It is time to call Obama on the carpet and force him to answer the tough questions. He has had a “pass” for too long!!
Ten bucks says Obama shows up in Oxford, England for the debate. “but..but they said it was on FOREIGN POLICY”….
The guys an IDIOT!
The Washington Sports Club – it’s not at Walter Reed is it?
Here is Obama the “constitutional law expert” speaking about judges.
Wrong answer. If the law is not clear then the job of judges is NOT to make it up based on their own “perspectives, ethics, moral bearings”. They are supposed to say “the law is silent on this matter – it’s up to the legislature to legislate on it”.
Does anybody know what Obamas plan is for Georgia? Because the rumor here in Atlanta is he would order a pre-emptive occupation and send troops here to defend us from the Russians. Hopefully they will bring some gas with them to ease the wait in gas lines which, according to Obama, can’t be helped by more drilling.
If all John McCain managed to do was delay Chuck “I broke Indymac” Schumer and Harry “Clueless” Reid from passing off this hoax until the American Public could find out the truth about it, then he is much more Presidential than Barack “Phone(y) it in” Obama and that fraud in the White House could ever be!
#244 LOL! If one of my professor were to here that answer about the SC judges he would’ve failed me.
It will be interesting if the lawsuit gets his Harvard Records unsealed. He propbably only graduated the paralegal studies!
Sorry I meant HEAR that answer!
Um, unequivocally, he went to DC because he doesn’t want to debate. You guys will buy anything.
Now we’re railing against the concept of ‘practice,’ are we?
Laughable.
I don’t need to hide behind anything. McCain is the one that tried to duck out of one of the most important components of an American presidential campaign.
TOS,
Before comparing Obama’s credentials to Lincoln’s, you should be aware that Lincoln has been estimated to have had an IQ above 150. Obama – just read a transcript of any debate answer or press conference and you would be hard pressed to rate his IQ in triple digits.
From Wikipedia:
I don’t want to threadjack here, but
wasn’t it actually Marbury vs. Madison in which the SC took upon itself the responsibility to “interpret” the Constitution? I would guess from the quoted passage that you probably meant Hamilton rather than Madison since it bears out your view, but then it doesn’t mean I necessarily agree with either one of them on the point, and in any case it’s only Hamilton’s opinion, not part of the Constitution. Anyway, I’m not a constitutional scholar like the Obamessiah. I only have my own views, uninformed though they may be.
If you had inflated your tires the way his ego is inflated, you’d be getting about 100 mpg…
Gas lines in Georgia must be very nostalgic for Jimmy Carter.
Obama as State Senator.
He’s a puppet, nothing more. That’s why he can’t speak without a teleprompter.
Listening to Stuart Smalley from a SNL skit, no doubt…
“I am smart, good looking, and gosh darnit, I deserve it!”
You’re full of it.
Where did all the Obama supporters go?
Facts to liberals are like garlic to vampires.
Actually I’m like Obama – very concerned about Georgia. They have had it rough this year. First they had to deal with a drought. Then the Russians invaded. Then they’ve had hurricane threats and a coup too – where different groups keep claiming the capital. One group in Atlanta, the other in Tbilisi. Right now the US government recognizes the one in Tbilisi as that is where we have our embassy.
Aloha-
Ignore di*sh*t…like most liberals, it’s not the truth that matters, it’s how much they can distort the truth to suit the positions that matter most to them. They cannot stand to be perceived as being wrong.
Both Osama and Obama are soaking in opportunistic glee over all of this.
And I’ve no doubt that this is not the only thing they have in common with each other.
Are you voting for Bob Barr too?
The man who called for more debates doesn’t want to debate Obama, who has to practice. Riiiiiight.
In the context of you thinking that McCain is somehow attempting to back out of a debate with someone who’s practicing, is laughable. And not to mention moot. The debate will go on tonight and we’ll see who has the last laugh.
Again, moot. The debate will go on tonight.
How so? He did try to get out of it, did he not?
Gotcha.
#251 I take nothing from Wiki.
It seems all you law scholars missed the point though the Constitution doesn’t layout the specifics of the Judicial Branch the founding fathers made it quite clear that they were to interpret NOT legislate the constitution. Marbury v Madison wasn’t what I meant I meant, James Madison Federalist 10. While you’re at read all of the Federalist papers.
Now if you would like to say my professors were wrong please do!
And that is on top of the Mexican invasion. Good thing I speak Spanish or I’d have too move back to the US. I wonder what Obama’s policy is on this? Oh , now I remember: family re-unification (bring more here).
Man, that guy is a genius.
For sure.
I wish Obama had accepted that little ‘challenge.’ It’s probably smarter politically to not agree to challenges from your opponent when you’ve got an edge in momentum, but I wish he’d done it all the same. Better for everyone.
But at this point in time, I don’t know how you could conclude that McCain does want to debate Obama, especially when you consider the state of the economy and McCain’s de-regulatory record. The McCain campaign has been shielding Sarah Palin from virtually all public scrutiny, and that’s what McCain tried to do here.
Grammar? No idea what you’re trying to say here.
It says something about McCain. There have been a lot of pathetic moments in the past 8 years brought to us by both Republicans and Democrats, but trying to back out of a Presidential debate has to take the cake.
#265 – 30: Where’d that come from? That’s classic!
He did not. The emphasis in the AP story below is mine. If delaying is “being afraid” as you have previously said, then it’s your guy who seems to be the coward. My own take is that it was sensible to delay given the circumstances and neither are cowards, but you keep insisting that McCain is afraid. In any event, after you have been through what McCain has – then say he’s afraid.
“WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican John McCain said Wednesday he wants to delay Friday’s debate with Democratic rival Barack Obama and temporarily put aside their partisan campaign to resolve the nation’s financial crisis.
McCain’s announcement came after the two candidates held private talks about joining forces to address the Wall Street meltdown. The Obama campaign said the Democrat initiated the talks, but McCain beat Obama to the punch with the first public statement calling for the two to rise above politics in a time of crisis.”
he coins show Senator Obama’s face, along with a picture of the White House and the legend “President of the United States of America”.
Lan, I think it was in an interview with Greta Vansustrin (sp?)
Digshot,
Really, I’m done indulging you. You repeat the same tripe over and over. The debate will go on tonight as scheduled. Later.
Here.
Same here. Ok I said that once before, but thought I’d flesh out my “full of it” for him…
Alohaguy,
He gives lgm a run for his money.
Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, needs to become more educated on the beginnings of this debacle. I recommend the attached link sent to me by a colleague:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
This link shows just how many democrats (by name) have had their grubby fingers all over this. It’s just deplorable that the loudest mouths “blaming” McCain and others, are the real culprits. We need to spread the word. This could be Obummer’s undoing!
CNN reported that he was hoping to delay this debate until next Thursday and they would cancel the VP debate because Palin cannot deal with anything extemporaneously. That’s pretty pathetic, it speaks to the wisdom of McCain’s choice of Palin, their confidence level, and how they would behave in office, i.e., dodging the press 24/7.
And I’ve never said he was afraid, have I? I’ve said he doesn’t want to debate. So stop putting words in my mouth.
I don’t care that he was a POW, by the way. So you can rip up that little card.
Uh… okay?
#275 thanks for your input. I believe most here know that the CRA of 77 and the expansion in 92 were the causes.
Now how smart do you think you are?
Have you ever heard Obama attempt to speak extemporaneously? “Painful” does not begin to describe it. For his sake they’d better allow teleprompters at the debate.
Since I have everyone running away from me now, I’d like to suggest Glenn Greenwald’s post this afternoon as a destination.
‘Flailing panic’ is just about as perfect a description of the McCain campaign’s nonsense this week as it gets.
Heh, heh.
Yeah.
Find me the worst video of Obama that you can find, I’ll find you the best video of Palin I can find, which as far as I know, consists of two ten minute interviews. We’ll see what’s painful then.
I think you’re boring everyone to tears with your rote recitation of Obama talking points, combined with your laughable attempt to say “Who? Me? An Obama supporter?”
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Greenwald — ack! You just kill me!
/sarc
I’m going to vote for Obama, yes. And I guarantee you that I’d be saying the exact same thing about him if he tried to wiggle out of this debate, but he didn’t. McCain did. That’s who we’re talking about.
Those saying that McCain caved into joining the debate in Mississippi need to realize that Americans need to hear from both these candidates. McCain has also made the “gesture” to return to Washington and make sure that some decent bailout bill is created.
I think that there are many, on both sides, that mischaracterize McCain’s move. He only “temporarily” suspended his campaign to address what is a weak issue for him. If he hadn’t addressed this bailout crap, he would have looked more weak.
We’ll have to see what happens in the debate and in the polls.
This quote, “No I have that opinion because it is fact.” is illogical.
Webster defines an opinion as, “a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter; opinion implies a conclusion thought out yet open to dispute.”
You cannot tell me with certainty who has more knowledge in any subject area. I can tell you from his own utterances that Obama has no clue what Memorial Day is for. Did you see his memorial Day remarks? STUNNINGLY STUPID! How can you be 48 and not know what Memorial Day is?
Again you have the impression Obama has more knowledge, therefore he is the best choice. So what? Remember the class brain from HS who had the 4.0 GPA , but had the common sesne of a rock? Misapplied knowledge is valueless.
Foreign policy? We follow his policy, we lose Iraq and the Mideast folds. He’s an idiot. Been there… saw 300,000 Vietnamese and 1.8 million Cambodians executed. On Septemebr 12, 2001, I told my wife, “We are going to invade Iraq.” I knew why then. Obama still doesn’t know, nor will he ever.
Economics? His policies are “progressive” policies from the 1920′s and 30′s that universally failed. THAT IS A HISTORICAL FACT. Name one successful socialist country?
The Constitution? Like all libs, Obama thinks it is a living document. That view is a “no go.”
Judgement is “the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing.” Obama’s ability to perform that intellectual exercise is in my opinion dismal.
Sounds like you know nothing, if that’s as far as you know.
It might be wise to bone up on a subject before running your mouth on it.
As for Obama, even the comics are laughing at him.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find anybody that would be willing to say McCain has EVER backed down from a fight. Especially a debate with Uh-Um-Obama. Frankly, that’s his best quality.
Get OUT! Well, I never saw that one coming. And you seemed so objective too.
!) You would back up Obama if he was found in bed with a dead girl and a live boy. Spare me the dishonesty.
2) Obama DID “wriggle out” of the proposed debates. McCain suggested many debates where ordinary people could have asked questions. The brave and bold Obama wriggled like a worm.
3) You don’t get to announce what debates are mandatory.
Why is he yelling?
Then let’s reset this discussion.
Please explain why you think that Obama is qualified to be President.
If it helps, you don’t have to read of Glenn’s commentary at all. Just the articles he cites. The McCain campaign insisted for days that McCain’s wasn’t going to the debate unless there was a bill by today, we don’t have a bill by today, and he’s going to the debate.
There is a comment thread on this very website filled to the brim with comments from conservatives feverishly applauding McCain for going back to D.C., to ‘get things done,’ to show ‘true leadership,’ but now he’s going to the debate having accomplished nothing. How do you reconcile that?
I notice that Obama is going to the debate having accomplished nothing but derailing the bill. How do you defend that?
I notice that like all trolls, Digshot likes to ask questions but not to answer them.
Okay…
He didn’t wiggle out of anything because he didn’t agree to anything. McCain committed. Surely even you can detect that enormous distinction?
Well there’s binding, legal mandatory, and there’s political tradition mandatory. This is certainly a case of the latter. People need to see their candidates under the gun. With our enfeebled media this is one of the few opportunities we get.
You shouldn’t be standing up and cheering when someone tries to prevent you from that opportunity.
McCain decided to go to the debate because he figured that would be the best place from which to rally the American People to press Congress for the kind of action he thinks is necessary to solve the crisis. It gives him the biggest possible audience.
I thought that was obvious. Glaringly so.
Yes, he did. He showed up. What’s more important, do the job you took an oath to do or lobbying for the next promotion during a crisis.
They both needed to err on the side of prudence to retunr to D.Cc to contribute. If it turns out it was an uneeded trip, so what? “If you need me call me,” speaks volumes about Obama’s attitude. He “assumed.” THAT is a reflection of his judgement. People who assume are lazy and dangerous.
I’m sure this is the narrative in the conservative media, so it’s reliably untrue, but just for kicks, how would that work, exactly? How does a singular Senator derail a bill? Did Obama bust out with an all-night filibuster or something?
I’ll answer whatever you want.
Will that make me not a troll?
Yeah, I know what great believers you lefties are in “tradition”. You’ll be citing Burke next.
FYI, this particular “tradition” only started in the 1960′s.
Okay then.
No. Explain it to me. Explain how being afraid to go to debates is not a sign of fear when Obama does it. I don’t doubt you can come up with creative explanation, I just need a good laugh.