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	<title>Comments on: And now: L.A. $5 billion housing plan</title>
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		<title>By: hawkeye54</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/29/and-now-la-5-billion-housing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-475759</link>
		<dc:creator>hawkeye54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On September 29th, 2008 at 9:44 am, Mister P said: 
When their is no rich, who will be paying the taxes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At that point, Los Angeles will resemble Bangladesh.  The next sound you hear wll be doors slamming shut on empty houses, stores and office builidngs as vans move the belongings of businesses and the rich, with the skyline of Los Angeles quickly shrinking their rear vier mirrors, out of the city and state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On September 29th, 2008 at 9:44 am, Mister P said:<br />
When their is no rich, who will be paying the taxes.</p></blockquote>
<p>At that point, Los Angeles will resemble Bangladesh.  The next sound you hear wll be doors slamming shut on empty houses, stores and office builidngs as vans move the belongings of businesses and the rich, with the skyline of Los Angeles quickly shrinking their rear vier mirrors, out of the city and state.</p>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;if 13800/rear = 1/2 of takehome pay, then takehome pay = 27,600/year&lt;/blockquote&gt;

hmmm maybe she&#039;s contributing to her 401k and Flex Spending accounts. in which case she&#039;s not so dumb after all..

my ex claims she&#039;s 100% disabled  BUT owns a bar and dances on top of it whenever she pleases. (if she doesnt do it, I will go ahead and thank everyone out there for her, &lt;strong&gt;because you support her&lt;/strong&gt;, not me) THANKS!!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>if 13800/rear = 1/2 of takehome pay, then takehome pay = 27,600/year</p></blockquote>
<p>hmmm maybe she&#8217;s contributing to her 401k and Flex Spending accounts. in which case she&#8217;s not so dumb after all..</p>
<p>my ex claims she&#8217;s 100% disabled  BUT owns a bar and dances on top of it whenever she pleases. (if she doesnt do it, I will go ahead and thank everyone out there for her, <strong>because you support her</strong>, not me) THANKS!!!! <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Khyris</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/29/and-now-la-5-billion-housing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-474841</link>
		<dc:creator>Khyris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple math here:

1150/month rent = 13800/year

if 13800/rear = 1/2 of takehome pay, then takehome pay = 27,600/year

either A) she&#039;s lying by neglecting to mention the FAT rebate check she gets every year as a single mother who has 35% of her paycheck witheld in taxes
or B) she&#039;s an idiot for supporting new socialized spending programs which will make her after-tax income even worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple math here:</p>
<p>1150/month rent = 13800/year</p>
<p>if 13800/rear = 1/2 of takehome pay, then takehome pay = 27,600/year</p>
<p>either A) she&#8217;s lying by neglecting to mention the FAT rebate check she gets every year as a single mother who has 35% of her paycheck witheld in taxes<br />
or B) she&#8217;s an idiot for supporting new socialized spending programs which will make her after-tax income even worse.</p>
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		<title>By: in_awe</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/29/and-now-la-5-billion-housing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-474800</link>
		<dc:creator>in_awe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprisingly, when video of this was shown on the LA television news a few of the folks in the audience wearing the red teeshirts were filmed and printed on the front of the shirts was - GASP - the ACORN logo. ACORN is like a metasticized cancer in this nation. 

Throughout all the shouts from the Dems last week that the Republicans were sabotouging the nation&#039;s only hope to avoid a depression, not once did I read in the MSM or see in TV reports that the Dems were using the bailout to fund ACORN and La Raza to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. It was almost like the press collectively decided to portray the Republicans as being unpatriotic in this run-up to the election. Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprisingly, when video of this was shown on the LA television news a few of the folks in the audience wearing the red teeshirts were filmed and printed on the front of the shirts was &#8211; GASP &#8211; the ACORN logo. ACORN is like a metasticized cancer in this nation. </p>
<p>Throughout all the shouts from the Dems last week that the Republicans were sabotouging the nation&#8217;s only hope to avoid a depression, not once did I read in the MSM or see in TV reports that the Dems were using the bailout to fund ACORN and La Raza to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. It was almost like the press collectively decided to portray the Republicans as being unpatriotic in this run-up to the election. Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/29/and-now-la-5-billion-housing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-474706</link>
		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On September 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Klaatu said:
Geez! How good is the weather in California?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Its like being a weatherperson in San Diego: Morning cloudiness with afternoon sun. High of 75 degrees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On September 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Klaatu said:<br />
Geez! How good is the weather in California?</p></blockquote>
<p>Its like being a weatherperson in San Diego: Morning cloudiness with afternoon sun. High of 75 degrees.</p>
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		<title>By: Southpaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Southpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On September 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Klaatu said: 
Geez! How good is the weather in California?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

High in the low 90&#039;s to day. Palm trees, swimming pool right outside the door. 

I attribute much of Californias&#039; current problems to an invasion of parasitic illegal aliens. I believe a Texan in the White House has left the borders wide open the last eight years.

Frank, Reid, Kennedy, McCain, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Paulsen, Bernanke, Greenspan...California doesn&#039;t have a monopoly on poor leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On September 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Klaatu said:<br />
Geez! How good is the weather in California?</p></blockquote>
<p>High in the low 90&#8242;s to day. Palm trees, swimming pool right outside the door. </p>
<p>I attribute much of Californias&#8217; current problems to an invasion of parasitic illegal aliens. I believe a Texan in the White House has left the borders wide open the last eight years.</p>
<p>Frank, Reid, Kennedy, McCain, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Paulsen, Bernanke, Greenspan&#8230;California doesn&#8217;t have a monopoly on poor leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/29/and-now-la-5-billion-housing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-474616</link>
		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#22, if you make $42 grand, you won’t get jack for assistance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would differ on that point.... Single mother who is a minority.

I&#039;m not talking about housing assistance or welfare. She can get government grants, contracts, education benefits and preferences that I have ZERO access to.

For the record, I am not jealous of what she has access to either... but she shouldnt complain about things. If she wants to up her lifestyle and social standing then she should send her daughter to live with the father. (Bet she wont.... becasue we are all deadbeats)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#22, if you make $42 grand, you won’t get jack for assistance.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would differ on that point&#8230;. Single mother who is a minority.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about housing assistance or welfare. She can get government grants, contracts, education benefits and preferences that I have ZERO access to.</p>
<p>For the record, I am not jealous of what she has access to either&#8230; but she shouldnt complain about things. If she wants to up her lifestyle and social standing then she should send her daughter to live with the father. (Bet she wont&#8230;. becasue we are all deadbeats)</p>
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		<title>By: greenfairie</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/29/and-now-la-5-billion-housing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-474596</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfairie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22, if you make $42 grand, you won&#039;t get jack for assistance.

First of all, every single do-gooder plan to have &quot;all incomes live together&quot; over the years has been made of epic FAIL.  Why is that?  Nobody with the means to choose otherwise wants to live in a crime-ridden, ugly neighborhood which is what you&#039;ll get if you put a bunch of poor folks on your block.  People don&#039;t magically change their attitudes if they live in a palace and as someone else pointed out, if you don&#039;t have the means to even make a car payment, you probably don&#039;t have the means to maintain your curb appeal.  The morons who always come up with these schemes live in their own lovely gated communities and can afford to live far from the riff raff.

The reasons why housing is so damn expensive here?  Taxes and overregulation.  But it&#039;s a lot easier to mau mau for government-guaranteed housing than it is to demand it lowers your taxes so you can keep more of what you earn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22, if you make $42 grand, you won&#8217;t get jack for assistance.</p>
<p>First of all, every single do-gooder plan to have &#8220;all incomes live together&#8221; over the years has been made of epic FAIL.  Why is that?  Nobody with the means to choose otherwise wants to live in a crime-ridden, ugly neighborhood which is what you&#8217;ll get if you put a bunch of poor folks on your block.  People don&#8217;t magically change their attitudes if they live in a palace and as someone else pointed out, if you don&#8217;t have the means to even make a car payment, you probably don&#8217;t have the means to maintain your curb appeal.  The morons who always come up with these schemes live in their own lovely gated communities and can afford to live far from the riff raff.</p>
<p>The reasons why housing is so damn expensive here?  Taxes and overregulation.  But it&#8217;s a lot easier to mau mau for government-guaranteed housing than it is to demand it lowers your taxes so you can keep more of what you earn.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorebot</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/29/and-now-la-5-billion-housing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-474561</link>
		<dc:creator>Gorebot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Klaatu said: We will all live side-by-side in perfect harmony in state provided housing&lt;/blockquote&gt;
We could use Gort right about now, aiming his lense directly at Capitol Hill!

And no &quot;Declento Brosco&quot; command from his boss either; he has to finish off the entire cadre of socialists inside first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Klaatu said: We will all live side-by-side in perfect harmony in state provided housing</p></blockquote>
<p>We could use Gort right about now, aiming his lense directly at Capitol Hill!</p>
<p>And no &#8220;Declento Brosco&#8221; command from his boss either; he has to finish off the entire cadre of socialists inside first.</p>
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		<title>By: geokstr</title>
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		<dc:creator>geokstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Villaraigosa acknowledged that in the current climate of economic uncertainty, some of the money the city is counting on may not come through, but he said he was confident other sources might open up.&quot;

Other sources, eh? How do you say &quot;mau-mauing&quot; in Spanish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Villaraigosa acknowledged that in the current climate of economic uncertainty, some of the money the city is counting on may not come through, but he said he was confident other sources might open up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other sources, eh? How do you say &#8220;mau-mauing&#8221; in Spanish?</p>
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		<title>By: Klaatu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaatu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez! How &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;good&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is the weather in California?  Why else would anyone want to live there?  This plan, and most California revolutionary plans, are one more brick in the road to collapse, ala the Soviet Union. &lt;em&gt;We will all live side-by-side in perfect harmony in state provided housing!&lt;/em&gt;

Sunny days are nice, but anyone with a work ethic and brain ought to say adios to the Peoples Republic of California.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez! How <strong><em>good</em></strong> is the weather in California?  Why else would anyone want to live there?  This plan, and most California revolutionary plans, are one more brick in the road to collapse, ala the Soviet Union. <em>We will all live side-by-side in perfect harmony in state provided housing!</em></p>
<p>Sunny days are nice, but anyone with a work ethic and brain ought to say adios to the Peoples Republic of California.</p>
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		<title>By: Southpaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Southpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“But we’re going to reject the cynics . . . and build a brighter future for those &lt;strike&gt;kids&lt;/strike&gt; illegals who are in the corner over there.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“But we’re going to reject the cynics . . . and build a brighter future for those <strike>kids</strike> illegals who are in the corner over there.”</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, the Chavistas have their man in City Hall.  Of course, they will pay him back when they get the millions of illegals to vote fraudulently for him in his next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, the Chavistas have their man in City Hall.  Of course, they will pay him back when they get the millions of illegals to vote fraudulently for him in his next election.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildcatter1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildcatter1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee!?!? We have the latest MOAB (mother of all bailouts, for those of you inside the Beltway) being put forth on Capitol Hill and along comes LA with this housing proposal. Why are we not instead looking to improve education and educational opportunities? Many (pubic) schools are failing to teach their students with the powerful teachers unions often preventing any really meaningful changes in how the students are taught.

Why not change the system to have the taxes that support the schools go with the students to the school they actually attend? This would bring genuine competition to the education system, increase educational opportunities for students to get a better education, get good paying jobs, buy nice homes without needing to get subprime mortgage loans, protect the financial sector from having to take on risky debt, and...oh never mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee!?!? We have the latest MOAB (mother of all bailouts, for those of you inside the Beltway) being put forth on Capitol Hill and along comes LA with this housing proposal. Why are we not instead looking to improve education and educational opportunities? Many (pubic) schools are failing to teach their students with the powerful teachers unions often preventing any really meaningful changes in how the students are taught.</p>
<p>Why not change the system to have the taxes that support the schools go with the students to the school they actually attend? This would bring genuine competition to the education system, increase educational opportunities for students to get a better education, get good paying jobs, buy nice homes without needing to get subprime mortgage loans, protect the financial sector from having to take on risky debt, and&#8230;oh never mind!</p>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I sleep on an air mattress in what should be my dining room (so that my daughter CAN have her own becdroom) while my youngest daughter sleeps on my mattress in her room. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Modification for clarity.

I gave my youngest daughter my real mattress &lt;em&gt;and &lt;/em&gt;my bedroom, while I sleep on an air mattress in the dining room of our one bedroom apartment.

LOL. My furniture we do have is 50 yr old bargain basement furniture (with nothing to sit on) from my grandparents &lt;strong&gt;2nd &lt;/strong&gt;extra bedroom. Divorce from psychotic people is a b!$@h. however my kids and I are happier now than we were before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I sleep on an air mattress in what should be my dining room (so that my daughter CAN have her own becdroom) while my youngest daughter sleeps on my mattress in her room. </p></blockquote>
<p>Modification for clarity.</p>
<p>I gave my youngest daughter my real mattress <em>and </em>my bedroom, while I sleep on an air mattress in the dining room of our one bedroom apartment.</p>
<p>LOL. My furniture we do have is 50 yr old bargain basement furniture (with nothing to sit on) from my grandparents <strong>2nd </strong>extra bedroom. Divorce from psychotic people is a b!$@h. however my kids and I are happier now than we were before.</p>
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