Breaking: It’s official. House rejects Trillion-Dollar-Plus Crap Sandwich; roll call vote added

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 29, 2008 01:49 PM

Scroll for updates…roll call vote added…

The votes have been tallied.

228 NAY.

205 YEA.

The Crap Sandwich goes down in flames. (My liveblog of the floor debate is here.)

Still no official announcement on the House floor. Lots of yelling for “order.”

Someone has changed his/her vote.

It’s now 227 NAY, 206 YEA, 1 Not Voting.

1:59pm Eastern. The allotted 15 minutes for voting is over, but there is still no official announcement. Arm-twisting is underway, but only one changed vote so far.

2:06pm Eastern. It’s official. The MOAB has failed.

Yeah, a lot of Chicken Littles are running around screaming about the Dow dropping.

It’s dropped less than 5 percent.

Apocalyptics said it would be down 20-30 percent.

The bailout failed.

The world survives.

***

2:29pm Eastern. I’ve been trying to access the House website for the roll call vote, but the entire site is hung up.

Meantime, the GOP leadership is holding a press conference. Imagine if they had been on the right side of this monster. They could be claiming victory, seizing the momentum, and advancing the conservative agenda. Instead, they’re complaining about Nancy Pelosi’s partisan attack on the floor. (Vid here.) What did you expect, crap sandwich swallowers?

***

Here’s the roll call vote…

H R 3997 RECORDED VOTE 29-Sep-2008 2:07 PM

AYES
Democratic 140
Republican 65

NOES
Democrat 95
Republican 133

NOT VOTING
Republican 1

TOTALS

AYES 205
NOES 228

QUESTION: On Concurring in Senate Amendment With An Amendment

BILL TITLE: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide earnings assistance and tax relief to members of the uniformed services, volunteer firefighters, and Peace Corps volunteers, and for other purposes

Ackerman D NY legislator Aye
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  1. #475035
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, sonofdy said:

    The new vote is for something else

  2. #475036
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, Christopher Estep said:

    I’m doing a happy dance.

    Oh, I realize we’re still going to get screwed when they tweak it, but it’s still great to see them get slammed.

  3. #475038
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, alamedaman said:

    whats happening now?

  4. #475039
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, ChrisFromGermany said:

    Yahoo News: House defeats financial industry bailout bill

    WASHINGTON – The House has defeated the $700 billion bail-out legislation for the financial industry.

    More than enough members of the House had cast votes to defeat the Bush administration-pushed bill, but the vote was held open for a while, apparently as efforts were under way to persuade people to change their vote.

    On Wall Street, stocks plummeted as investors followed the developments in Congress.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080929/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown_1483

  5. #475040
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, sonofdy said:

    And the market is dropping again… Its going to be a rough day all round.

  6. #475041
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, right4life said:

    This vote spells the end of the USA. Expect martial law, expect the total suspension of rights. You asked for it, you got it, hope you’re proud of yourselves.

    please, get a grip.

  7. #475042
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, freaksloan said:

    The big middle finger to Pelosi and Frank, and to Mr. Bush also.

  8. #475043
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, denver republican said:

    So have we dodged a bullet or is the bill’s hand still twitching like the bad guy in a horror movie after he’s been “killed”?

  9. #475044
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, Paul Revere said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, sonofdy said:
    The new vote is for something else

    Are you sure? Please tell me you’re sure Pelosi did not ram this through with a voice vote?

  10. #475047
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, Southpaw said:

    Ding dong, the witch is dead. There is no bogeyman. Now to stave off those Washington and Wall Street bloodsucking vampires.

  11. #475048
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, right4life said:

    1. Should we have a baby right now?
    2. Should I go back to school?
    3. Should we just pay off all our debt so that we and other Americans don’t get even more hit by this economic debacle?

    look, just live your life, do you best, and leave the results to the Lord.

    yes have your baby, children are a blessing from the Lord!

    Live, enjoy your life!

    come on, this is good news, we don’t need the government playing God.

  12. #475050
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, flenser said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, nyc123me said:
    I can’t believe this got voted out.

    Trying to sell my shares at 50% of current market price online, no buyers.

    Dude, what the hell did you invest in? Even an index fund would be holding up pretty well. Don’t tell me you bet your college tution on a real estate fund?

  13. #475053
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:55 pm, mdt said:

    Jun 30-2007 – Immigration amnesty defeated

    Sep 29-2008 – Wall street amnesty defeated

    History

    You forgot the House “Texas Tea” Party and how the offshore drilling and oil shale bans end on September 30th.
    October 1st is Energy Freedom Day!

    Here’s what we need to do to make our economy BOOM with prosperity:
    1) Drill, Baby, Drill!
    2) Repeal Sarbanes-Oxley
    3) Pass the Fair Tax and abolish the IRS.

  14. #475055
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Thats it???????

    The threat was that we are heading into a depression if the $700 billion didnt pass……

    but we are only down 490pts on the stock market at this time?

    Thats it????

    Hows the bond market doing?

  15. #475056
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, sonofdy said:

    I am sure. DOA. The new vote was on some amendment on another bill. I was listening to c-span. What happens next will suck but it would have come anyway, only worse.

  16. #475057
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, Southern Partisan said:

    205 y 228 n

    Jerry Weller R Illinois NV

    Well done, except for my CongressCritter, Spencer Bachus-R , who is un-opposed in Nov.

  17. #475058
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Paul Revere said:

    LOL @ the media now calling this a Bush-backed plan…nevermind his democrat Treasury Secretary forged it and tried to sell it.

    The people have won.

  18. #475062
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, right4life said:

    please, get a grip.

    I think that was sarcasm… lol

  19. #475063
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, nyc123me said:

    So now what, we all just watch as our world crumbles around us, somehow comforted by the fact we stopped Pelosi and the democrats at the expense of our own survival? Talk about one major Pyrrhic victory. I’m not a big drinker these days, but I’m going to drink a beer now. In fact I think I’ll have some vodka and wine too, since there’s some in the cupboard. It may well be the last time I can afford it. Enjoy your day if you can.

  20. #475065
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, ChrisFromGermany said:

    Now they are voting on whether the mint should make coins to commemorate the civil war soldiers.

    I guess this means that the bill has actually failed…

  21. #475067
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, sonofdy said:

    The bush plan was exactly 3 pages. This was 108 pages written entirely by democrats. :roll: the MSM couldn’t get it right if you beat them over the head with the facts.

  22. #475068
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, beenthere said:

    It was a very bad bill. It was defeated. Congress can do better — take several breaths, think this one through carefully guys. Think of the country for once. Listen to the people. Grow a pair. And tell Mr. Paulson to pack this things and get out of town. BTW, there is more to governing than the opinions of Barney Frank and Maxine Walters.

    Note: Actually, much better if the Republicans get their act together, but this was an important first step.

  23. #475069
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    come on, this is good news, we don’t need the government playing God.

    Amen.

    In this present crisis,
    government is not the solution to our problem;
    government is the problem.

    -Ronald Reagan
    Inaugural Address
    January 20, 1981

  24. #475070
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, flenser said:

    the media now calling this a Bush-backed plan

    Yeah, if it had passed they’d be praising Pelosi.

  25. #475071
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, nyc123me said:

    btw, no drilling now, since that was in this bill..

  26. #475073
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, cheapseat said:

    new york, new jersey, connecticut, you aren’t the entire world. the mets blew it, the yankees blew it and the 2008 bailout of new york crooks and thieves blew it too. maybe once you decide a 600 square foot apartment in manhatten isn’t worth $1000,000 plus $2,000 a month for a parking space, nyc123 will be able to afford his school without his savings. if you build a fantasy, at some point you have to wake up. dingalingaling. time to rise and shine.

  27. #475074
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Next step: GeT RID OF THE IRS and institute a fair, flat tax! DO IT NOW!

  28. #475075
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, sonofdy said:

    Enjoy your day if you can.

    As I said before, I am not happy if it passes and I am not happy if it fails. This sucks. But the country overspent on credit and it is time to pay the bills.

  29. #475077
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, xblade said:

    This vote spells the end of the USA. Expect martial law, expect the total suspension of rights. You asked for it, you got it, hope you’re proud of yourselves.

    human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… MASS HYSTERIA!

  30. #475079
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, sambo said:

    sonofdy said:
    And the market is dropping again… Its going to be a rough day all round.

    Yeap, it has been here at Wachovia but for me it will be rough for a long time.

  31. #475080
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Hey, wasn’t this Barry’s idea. Didn’t he take all the credit for this thing this weekend. HAHAAAHAHAHHHHHH

  32. #475082
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, bluedog said:

    Frank is now blaming the Republicans now, but hell, Frank could have gotten just 10 of those 95 Dems to vote Y and who cares about the Reps.

    I want to know who those two people were that changed their votes back from Y to N just before the vote closed (one D and one R) when they saw the vote wouldn’t pass. It might not have been the same people who went from N to Y during the vote, but it’s too much of a coincidence in my opinion.

    White House is “very disappointed.”

  33. #475083
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, Misscheryl said:

    We will survive this. Anyone who has lived longer than 30 years on this earth can attest that we will survive, we done it before and will do it again. Everything passes!

  34. #475084
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, Romeo13 said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, nyc123me said:
    btw, no drilling now, since that was in this bill..

    Offshore and Shale drilling prohibitions expire on Oct. 1

    It needs no vote.

  35. #475088
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, nyc123me said:

    dogs and cats living together? look, things are bad, but come on..

  36. #475089
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, Paul Revere said:

    If Nancy Pelosi’s extremely partisan speech did this in, I will sleep with a grin on my face.

  37. #475090
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, atheling said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, nyc123me said:

    This too, will pass.

  38. #475091
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, right4life said:

    I think that was sarcasm… lol

    I don’t think it was…

    #115On September 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, nyc123me said:
    So now what, we all just watch as our world crumbles around us, somehow comforted by the fact we stopped Pelosi and the democrats at the expense of our own survival

    come on, its not the end of the world…yet…don’t worry, the Lord is in charge! If you are His these are GREAT DAYS!!

  39. #475092
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, Baltimore Jack said:

    I hope we’re right and that the short-term economic pain will be bearable. Since the problem was bad lending (and bad borrowing) and poor visibility into asset values it made no sense to borrow a trillion dollars from ourselves for no guaranteed return. What now? Who’s got info on next steps? New House bill? Start over? Maybe they can drag it out for a few more months or forget it altogether and the markets can adjust them selves as designed. It’s great to see the dems upset – always means something good happened for the country.

  40. #475093
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, Misscheryl said:

    the Dems just do not get it – it is the people that said no! VOTE THEM OUT.

  41. #475094
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, sonofdy said:

    dogs and cats living together?

    Does that result in cogs? or dats?

  42. #475095
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, Valiant said:

    Jefferson and Adams would be proud.

  43. #475096
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, travlinman said:

    McCain needs to immediately show this as a Democrat (and Obama) idea and drive it home. The Dems are already lying about the origins of the MOAB. I was positive about McCain a couple of weeks ago, now he is making me nervous again. Too RINO.

    TGFSP!

  44. #475099
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, right4life said:

    In fact I think I’ll have some vodka and wine too, since there’s some in the cupboard. It may well be the last time I can afford it. Enjoy your day if you can.

    come on, its not that bad!! I am concerned about you…perhaps you need some professional help.

  45. #475100
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, flenser said:

    the media now calling this a Bush-backed plan

    Yeah, if it had passed they’d be praising Pelosi.

    Ain’t that the truth!

    CNN is the Communist News Network.
    They might as well change their name to Pravda!

  46. #475103
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    It may well be the last time I can afford it. Enjoy your day if you can.

    I sure can!!!!

    I dont have any real debt and if the world collapses, I can cling to my guns and my god and head to the hills.

    (Always have a backup plan.)

    I heading over to the gym and the pool to work on my tan now.

  47. #475106
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pm, nyc123me said:

    When they’re voting like that, they should not be allowed to see the results until after voting has closed, for very obvious reasons – otherwise they aren’t voting for what they believe in, they aren’t voting for what is right, they aren’t voting in the interests of America or Americans, they vote for what seems popular – in other words, what they think will garner more votes come election time. They vote for personal self-preservation.

    I despise politicians.

  48. #475107
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pm, PhredE said:

    For those interested in the roll call on this vote, later check:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/home/rollcallvotes.html

    The names are published some time after the official vote is finalized (usually later the same day or early the following morning).

  49. #475112
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, right4life said:

    in a few months there might be some good buying opportunities in the market….

  50. #475113
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, PhredE said:
  51. #475116
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, mattsand said:

    The Dow has fallen nearly 3% THREE PERCENT. That’s not even a hiccup. Like Cavuto has said a few times….it’s a hissy.

  52. #475117
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, sandyb said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, feebiebabe said:
    nice.

    Michelle, really outstanding job with all the posts re: bailout.

    will you also be posting a list of the votes by senator?

    Please! That’s the first thought I had. I want to know who voted for it, ’cause they’re not getting my vote in November. I’m disheartened that Eric Cantor-R, VA, caved. All along, he appeared to be quite the boy scout in adhering to the Constitution.

    I had high hopes for him in the coming incarnation of conservatives like Jindal and Palin. I hope those Republicans who stood up against socialism are rewarded. DeMint and Pence come to mind. Thank you, gentlemen. You are indeed patriots.

  53. #475119
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, alamedaman said:

    who the hell is adam putnam and why does he have an R next to his name?

  54. #475121
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Let us be cautious here–this damn Hydra may need multiple killings. There is a lot of pork to be packed to buy a few more votes. These whores don’t work cheap. Apologies to whores. Perhaps I should use “ACORNs don’t work cheap”.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    —-

    “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” -George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426.

  55. #475122
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, flenser said:

    The big news here is that Pelosi lost almsot half of the Democrats, 95 of whom voted no.

    Way to go, Madam Speaker!

  56. #475127
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, JD in D.C. said:

    SO HOW’S THAT “illegal alien mortgage & bank accounts” program working out for you, WACHOVIA?

    “Wachovia Bank investigated for laundering drug money to Mexico and Colombia”

    “Wachovia to fund Latino group La Raza”

    “Wachovia has formed a partnership with the National Council of La Raza. The bank will provide $5 million in grants over five years for counseling in homeownership and community-development efforts.

    “Wachovia also will provide $1.25 million over five years to sponsor La Raza events and a $10 million loan to fund growth for Raza Development Fund’s lending activities.”

    Wachovia, properly pronounced = Wako-VILLA, as in Pancho Villa.

  57. #475126
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, ConMom said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, PhredE said:
    Here’s the names:

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml

    Thanks for the link. I was worried about my congressman, Knollenberg. Thank God he voted NO! I will call his office right now to thank him!

  58. #475128
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, mattsand said:

    After watching the comments from the so-called conservatives I took a quick peek outside. My depth perception may be off, but the sky appears to be the same height as before. Go figure.

  59. #475129
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, John Ansell said:

    And O’reilly will be screaming bloody murder. :lol:

  60. #475131
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    We can easily solve the market situation. ELIMINATE THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX NOW

  61. #475133
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, mpChops said:

    The Dow is down 5%, and the S&P is down 6.3.

    There are some who really don’t care how far either either market drops, so to say “only” 3% or only 5% is disingenuous. To those who do care how far the market has drop, what is the threshold at which you think the bailout would have been a better idea(notice I didn’t say good idea, but better idea than doing nothing)?

  62. #475134
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, right4life said:

    And O’reilly will be screaming bloody murder

    good, good!! I can’t stand that loudmouthed moron…

  63. #475138
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, John Ansell said:
  64. #475139
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, right4life said:

    We can easily solve the market situation. ELIMINATE THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX NOW

    absolutely!!! along with CRA and SOX!

  65. #475140
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, mom2jack said:

    These things work in cycles. Don’t panic and things will recover. No bear market lasts forever.

    I’m not in panic mode yet, but what if you don’t have forever? My mom is living on her investments RIGHT NOW. She is in hospice, needs 24/7 care, who knows for how long – could be months or up to a year – if the money runs out while she’s still alive, I don’t know what I’ll do.

  66. #475141
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, bluedog said:

    At a presser, the little redheaded spokesman (not sure who he is, sorry, but he looks 12) for the House GOP blamed Pelosi’s partisan speech. Boehner is also blaming her.

    Blunt says they had about 12 more Y votes going in on a bipartisan bill, but those people changed their minds after Pelosi’s speech. Also reiterating Pelosi’s “unpatriotic” remark.

    Blunt says they will reach out again and try to fix this and says Congress failed to act, and remember Reps are NOT the majority.

    Cantor has Pelosi’s speech text and is pointing to it as the reason for the failure. Points out 94 Ds voted against. Says it’s Pelosi’s failure to lead. Ticks off all the bills that have failed (energy, spending, etc).

    This is actually the first time I’ve heard the Republicans be so partisan on this issue, especially since Frank, Reid, and Pelosi have done nothing but inject politics.

  67. #475142
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, JD in D.C. said:
    SO HOW’S THAT “illegal alien mortgage & bank accounts” program working out for you, WACHOVIA?

    Yeh, sorry for whomever works @ Wachovia on here, but Citi/Wachovia lost my business today.

    I was only with them anyway because they bought out the bank I had been with for the last 10 years.

  68. #475145
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, right4life said:

    but what if you don’t have forever?

    none of us do…

  69. #475146
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, alamedaman said:

    wow pete stark voted no. New respect for the atheist socialist.

  70. #475147
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, Last Massachusetts Conservative said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, right4life said:
    And O’reilly will be screaming bloody murder

    My opinion of O’bamareilly has been going downhill since the amnesty issue.

  71. #475149
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, Salt said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, flenser said:

    The big news here is that Pelosi lost almsot half of the Democrats, 95 of whom voted no.

    Way to go, Madam Speaker!

    I thought that was very interesting as well. It might be enlightening to see from whom these nay votes came.

    I’d wager that these democrats were under considerable pressure from their constituents if they opposed Pelosi and Reid.

    I also want to know who changed their vote and why.

  72. #475150
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, RTater said:

    Woot

  73. #475151
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, SacTownMan said:

    “Dogs and cats living together quote” is from Ghostbusters.

    Only really old people like over 40 would know that kind of stuff!

    Okay I’m old!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w91-GMc3j7I

  74. #475152
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, nyc123me said:

    Mattsand, what delayed market are you looking at? DOW is currently over 500 points down again – 4.64%, and most of the world markets closed before this vote came out. The Canadian markets are still open, and are down by between 6.8 and 7.5%. When the world markets reopen tomorrow, things will really start to pick up, and when I say pick up, I mean pick up speed in a downwards direction, then DOW etc will follow tomorrow and so on.. where did you get 3% from?

  75. #475153
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, ajmontana said:

    17%approval rating…. and dropping faster than the DOW.

    I agree with Michelle on siezing the moment for victory, but it was sweet hearing them call Pelosi a failure for the past year… sweet as a 30 pcs pecan pie…. oh wait I haven’t had one of those yet. lmao 8)

  76. #475154
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, emjem24 said:

    Wow, Cantor and Putnam voted for this monstrous bill. I too had high expectations for this man. What a disappointment.

    I live in Hampton Roads, VA and he’s an up and comer. I wonder if he (or Putnam) will survive this?

  77. #475156
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    The federal government is the source of this problem. And like in the case of Pandora’s Box, they cannot fix it. The best the government can do is create an environment in which the best outcome of the free market is allowed to happen. By the way, that means getting rid of the CRA and breaking up Fannie and Freddie. It means creating a 21st century financial system that empowers success rather than rewarding failure.

  78. #475157
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, PhredE said:

    As someone else said either in this, or another thread, the Congress critters heard from their constituents once again (as in the case of “CIR” in 2007; eg, “McCain-Kennedy”) in large numbers and decided to vote the ‘correct’ way (eg. represent the people they were sent to DC to do).

    Gosh, I find myself almost (cough) optimistic…

  79. #475158
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, Paul Revere said:

    I just went out and checked. The sky is still several miles above my head. It has NOT fallen.

  80. #475159
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Some good news-stronger dollar causes the EuroTrash to panic. Yes!

    Not to brag, but I bailed out when the Dow closed in on 14K. I guess market timing is the “smart” thing, but I am not that confident. Now if WE don’t panic and follow FDRs “Do Something Do Anything” we just might ride this out. God Bless America and Pass the Potatoes Please.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    —-

    “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” -George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426.

  81. #475160
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, Flyoverman said:

    How many House Democrats got “come to Jesus” phone calls and e-mails from their constituients? WOW.

    THAT is Power to the People you can bleieve in!

    Queue up some AC/DC, “Shot Down in Flames.”

  82. #475163
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, flenser said:

    the media now calling this a Bush-backed plan

    Yeah, if it had passed they’d be praising Pelosi.

    Hasn’t it been fascinating to watch that narrative morph, depending on the situation? :roll:

  83. #475165
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, rommsey said:

    Great news!

  84. #475166
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Laree said:

    I really don’t think the Nancy Pelosi is so in love with Main Street and the Middle Class as she makes out.

    http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/disavowal-of-pursuit-of-middleclassness.html

  85. #475167
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, mpChops said:

    Great news!

    I am looking forward to McCain(or Palin) coming on television and expressing your sentiment.

  86. #475169
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Christopher Estep said:

    Woot! Tom Price voted against it! He was one of the leaders of the “vote on offshore drilling stand-in” last month.

    I’m going to have to send his campaign some money. Seriously.

    Remember folks, conservatives in congress need to be supported, especially in the House!

  87. #475170
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, sambo said:

    RabbidSquirrel said:
    JD in D.C. said:
    SO HOW’S THAT “illegal alien mortgage & bank accounts” program working out for you, WACHOVIA?

    Thats Citi group to you.

    RabbidSquirrel said:
    Yeh, sorry for whomever works @ Wachovia on here, but Citi/Wachovia lost my business today.

    Thanks…don’t work for them but consult…guess my contract won’t be extended nexdt month.

    I was only with them anyway because they bought out the bank I had been with for the last 10 years.

    Hope it wasn’t Golden West Financial. They took us down!

  88. #475171
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, mom2jack said:

    My mom is living on her investments RIGHT NOW. She is in hospice.

    Not to be cruel, but I put my mom in hospice last year AND she had NO INVESTMENTS OR SAVINGS.

    I visit her grave as often as I can. Its life.

  89. #475172
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:50 pm, flenser said:

    Remember folks, conservatives in congress need to be supported, especially in the House!

    A point that bears repeating, as the WH is already lost to conservatives. Let’s support the House Republicans.

  90. #475178
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, symrian said:

    Wow, my Congressman Wittman voted against it after initially saying he supported it. At least that means he’ll listen.

    I was getting worried there for a moment. He’s running ‘let’s be bipartisan about energy’ commercials on the radio in my part of Virginia here lately.

  91. #475180
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, mpChops said:

    Great news!

    Sovereign Bancorp is down 67.14%

    If you’re going to send money to House Conservatives, best get your assets of of Sovereign…

  92. #475181
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, Cricket24 said:

    President Bush needs to replace (fire) Henry Paulsen!

  93. #475182
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:52 pm, California Red said:

    I sure wish my presidential candidate could say “I went to Washington to make sure that the Conservative voice didn’t get silenced by Bush and his big Givernment Democrat loving plan.”

    This country will prosper once again when we learn to live within our means and buy only what we can afford. Paying for what you buy is a fundamental principle that cannot be abandoned, no matter how much we all want instant gratification right now.

  94. #475183
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:52 pm, Buzzrighthere said:

    thank you michelle and the WE THE PEOPLES for killing this pig… did you she pisslosi what a B$%#&… all she had to do was make nice and this piece of crap would have passed but NOOOOO she had to get in a dig now it’s her fault!!!!! hahahahahahahahaha

  95. #475186
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, mattsand said:

    as I said before, natural selection has its best application in economics. Economics is also (strangely enough) the one area liberals cannot stand the concept.

  96. #475187
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, emjem24 said:

    Representative Engel (D), the person who represents the NY 17th Congressional District voted for this monstrosity of a bill. I’ll be making sure I vote him out of office. I hope others do as well. I know my very Republican in-laws will.

  97. #475192
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:56 pm, Buzzrighthere said:

    anyone who voted for this should be voted out…all206 of them dim or rino doesn’t matter!!!!!

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