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1. #474734
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, nyc123me said:

   That was announced last night afaik, or the early hours of this morning..

2. #474743
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, Michelle Malkin said:

   No, it wasn’t settled yet. The vote will be Wednesday night.

3. #474744
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, Mister P said:

   So why can’t they do it on a Jewish holiday?

4. #474745
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, freaksloan said:

   I thought this was a matter of life and death?

   Why are you waiting till Wednesday?

5. #474751
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, Southpaw said:

   This bailout isn’t going to solve the problem. The mortgage meltdown will continue and consumers are throwing in the towel.

   Like Newt said to Ripley in the movie Aliens:
   “It won’t make any difference.”

6. #474753
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, Artbyruth said:

   Thanks for all this information, MM, this has really helped me decide about this bail-out.

   Rush is still very against it. Surprised Newt changed his tune.

   Am glad so many in the House are still against it. Many of my friends are so scared and uncertain. I feel for them since they own businesses, have just refinanced their homes, etc.

   Scary times….

7. #474756
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, Blackstone said:

   FILIBUSTER

   (hey, I can dream, right?)

8. #474761
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

   OT: Finally got a response from the family of the Marine who is suing John Murtha. Forwarded it to Michelle. If it doesn’t get mentioned, I would be more than happy to post it here for all who are concerned.

9. #474769
   On September 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, John Ansell said:

   China is on Holiday so we have time.

10. #474771
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Obama will return to Washington for the vote.

    You have to be present to vote “present”?

11. #474773
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    WWMD? Everyone knows there weren’t no WWMD’s

12. #474775
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    15 minutes left until the first lugnut comes off the wheels of America…..

13. #474776
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    What will McCain do?

    He should oppose it if he wants to win the election.

14. #474779
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    my bad, my bad

    10 minutes left until the next lugnut comes off the wheels of America…..

15. #474783
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, walterc said:

    Goldwater Knight said:

    What will McCain do?

    He should oppose it if he wants to win the election.

    With Obama in favor, McCain opposing would create a distinct difference that mainstream America could actually see. Of course that’s a difference the MSM would actually report (thinking that most Americans think like they do).

16. #474787
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, Sanddog said:

    Is Obama returning to vote present?

17. #474790
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, Hammer said:

    Senate phone line BUSY

18. #474795
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, Hammer said:

    2 minutes vote time remaining in house… FAIL FAIL FAIL

19. #474804
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, frontierguy said:

    Of course Obama wants to be there to vote to save his programs. He helped bring the problem and is more than happy to rob peter to pay paul. The media will make him look like a hero as well. Most of the liberals? Looking for nice sounding talking points and wondering who could be the next American Idol. Maybe BHO could be both POTUS and the AI. Wouldn’t that be exciting.

20. #474824
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, Hammer said:

    YES! 220 Nays and counting!

21. #474831
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, rightisright said:

    Looking good

22. #474832
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, Hammer said:

    FoxNEWS reporting arm-twisting can continue on this for hours to get NAYS to switch…. if your Congressman is in the NAY column, get ‘em to hold the line.

    DOW on way to a 700 point drop

23. #474842
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, Hammer said:

    FoxNEWS saying Speaker Pelosi’s House floor appeal to vote for this mud sandwich was viewed as partisian by several republicans and that pushed more away…

    DOW back under a 500 point drop

24. #474852
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    There are 60+ Republicans that need to feel the wrath

25. #474853
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, Southpaw said:

    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, Hammer said:

    DOW on way to a 700 point drop

    Yea, watching that. Wall Street is going to show us for not believing in the bogeyman.

26. #474914
    On September 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, symrian said:

    The Dow Jones Industrial Average is on a big roller coater. Credit will be tight. Banks are failing and the markets are in panic.

    I couldn’t be happier.

    As of this post, it looks like the House just rejected socialism after catching a lot of flak. Time for the correction, and maybe the return of a little fiscal wisdom to America. I’ll take the lumps if it stops the creation of the USSA.

27. #474970
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    The Dow Jones Industrial Average is on a big roller coater. Credit will be tight. Banks are failing and the markets are in panic.

    OMG WHAT AM I GOING TO DO NOW ????????????

    Does anyone have a window I can jump out of?

    (lol… actually Im going to the gym and the hottub now. I think I will work on my tan today too…..)

28. #474974
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, rightisright said:

    now we have to wait for the arm twisting…bs!

29. #475046
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, Mister P said:

    Well I don’t want to see the stocks drop, but that is what happens when an irresponsible president cries wolf. He and his minions have failed to make a good case for it. In fact Bush himself looks like he is walking around in shock.

    But Dems, by the constant gloating about being needed for this unconstitutional bill have done us all a big favor by showing their own true colors.

    I have never seen the people so riled up. As the Queen of Hearts said: “Off with their Heads.”

30. #475060
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, rightisright said:

    Done deal…common sense took over in the House, about time.

31. #475085
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, RedDog said:

    I’ve sent my Tennessee letters to Alexander, Corker, and Wamp.

32. #475087
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, sonofdy said:

    Not much point now…

33. #475101
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, Valiant said:

    McCain suspended the campaign to fix the problem. How’s that working out for you, John?

34. #475123
    On September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, billcollier said:

    MY LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT:

    I vote NO to socialism, I prefer all out depression, but want to hold CEO’s and Govt. officials accountable for their ethical lapses, to socialism, and this is totally JUST socialism!

    NO TO SOCIALISM, NO TO SOCIALISM!

    Pass this bill and you incite more than the panic on Wall Street you fear will come if we do not go socialist, you incite such an abject distrust of government as can only be seen as more dangerous to our political stability than not passing it may pose to our economic stability.

    I will take poverty with freedom, I will live 3 families to a house and grow my own food in a garden if I have to, but I view ANY bill such as this as a total betrayal of the People and of the Constitution. THAT worries me for the future of this nation I served in the US Navy more than even the darkest economic situation you can name.

    NO TO SOCIALISM!

    Bill Collier
    Marysville Pa 17053

    NOTE: please, if you prefer freedom at ANY cost let the government know that YOU DO NOT WANT SOCIALISM!!!!

35. #475267
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, ex-expat said:

    I am a bit confused here, or in need of a civics refresher. The House has voted down the bill, so doesn’t that make a Senate vote moot? If the Senate passes this, then what?

36. #475286
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, IndependentTom said:

    Ok…keeping up the pressure on my two senators with e-mails to both their offices urging them to vote NO.

37. #475293
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, gayle said:

    good question ex.

38. #475296
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, Valiant said:

    Dole’s office was 900 to 4 against the MOAB. Dole is against it. Burr, as usual, may need a little more persuasion.

39. #475304
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, love2rumba said:

    McCain has had numerous opportunities to defeat Obama and with the exception of his support for Heller and his pick of Sarah Palin as his VP running mate, he still keeps squandering them. If he win it will because of the conservative base…period..not because of McCain himself.

    If McCain REALLY wants to win he needs to NOT support this robbery (bailout), and he needs to point out to the extent of impalement, the democratic/liberal causes of this insipid baliout-making mortgage loans to people who never should have received them in the first place.

    As for McCain’s not looking directly into Obama’s eyes during the first debate..he did exactly what he should do since he is physically shorter than Obama, and for him to look up into Obama’s eyes would have allowed Obama to be visually dominant over McCain

40. #475312
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:26 pm, ex-expat said:

    I will also repeat what I have written on a related thread: the general run of ‘hell no’ comments are blinkered and very dismaying. Keep this up and there is a future out there for someone who can create a nationwide chain of soup kitchens. If any of the readers, commentors, and moderator think the unthinkable cannot happen again, you may be in for a very, very, nasty surprise

41. #475316
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, frontierguy said:

    The House voted down the bill, thanks Nancy, your big mouth and blame game on who are not the real problem saved us!!

    If I get this right, even if voted for by the Senate, the bill still has to go back to the house for a revote before it can hit Bush’s desk…right? I am trying to remember the School House Rock song right now.

42. #475320
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, tanksoldier said:

    My email to Senator Allard:

    Three points:

    1. The majority of Americans who didn’t get themselves in over their heads are very angry at having to bail out those who did. We are also angry at a legislature and government officials who allowed all this to happen and are letting the CEOs responsible float away on their golden parachutes.

    2. We acknowledge that SOME form of a bail out has to happen to prevent our economy sliding even further down the toilet. However, it should be the absolute MINIMUM… not this TRILLION -dollar boondoggle that the House just voted down.

    3. We are watching you, Senators and Representatives alike. How you vote today more than ever will determine how WE vote tomorrow. Think about it.

43. #475331
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:30 pm, billcollier said:

    The Wall Street tycoons have pulled the trigger on their blackmail threat: we must choose between dealing with a potential economic melt down on an unprecedented scale to protect our children’s future or surrendering to socialism.

    NO TO SOCIALISM, NO TO SOCIALISM,

    Don’t Go and Surrender to The Corporate Socialists!!!!!!

44. #475386
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, IndependentTom said:

    Sent an e-mail to Tom Tancredo suggesting that he rethink his yea vote on this thing.

45. #475398
    On September 29th, 2008 at 3:59 pm, IndependentTom said:

    “The Wall Street tycoons have pulled the trigger on their blackmail threat”

    LOL…..Aren’t they the one’s that are mostly vested in the stock market? By deliberately tanking the market wouldn’t they lose the most? And these idiots wanted access to over a trillion dollars of taxpayer money?

    I suppose everyone has a right to shoot themselves in the foot.

    Please don’t think I’m being flippant about this. The rejection of this bailout will have consequences that are still unforeseen. But there has to be a better fix.

46. #475451
    On September 29th, 2008 at 4:22 pm, Valiant said:

    Please don’t think I’m being flippant about this. The rejection acceptance of this bailout will have consequences that are still unforeseen. But there has to be a better fix.

    Fixed it. I’ll trust the markets for now. The solution is to reduce government meddling and this MOAB does just the opposite.

47. #475459
    On September 29th, 2008 at 4:23 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Long Live the Constitution
    Long Live the USA

48. #475518
    On September 29th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    frontierguy said:
    I am trying to remember the School House Rock song right now.

    Assist…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

49. #475788
    On September 29th, 2008 at 7:05 pm, txvet2 said:

    I seem to notice a marked absence of leftists jumping in on this discussion today. Anyway, FWIW, let me throw in a couple of wrenches:

    As has been noted elsewhere, Democrats have a pretty consistent record of inducing crises, blaming them on Republicans, then failing to solve them and blaming that on Republicans, too. Looks like we’re seeing one of the first of this year’s October surprises.

    The failure of the bailout bill can apparently be laid directly at the feet of Pelosi. Her inflammatory speech just prior to the vote seemed calculated to get some Republicans who were either reluctantly supporting the bill, or on the fence about it, to vote against it and “cause it to fail” (Of course they didn’t – that honor belongs to the 90 odd Democrats who voted against it).

    The market’s immediate reaction could very well have been triggered by a few large short sellers (Soros is famous for this sort of thing) getting things started (and stepping back in near the lows to take profits, letting the market level rise again). Note that the last 200+ points of loss in the DJIA came in the last minute of trading, turning an worse than usual down day into a record one.

    In other words, much of this whole mess, which cost investors around $1 trillion dollars today, could very well be just Democrat electioneering.

50. #476055
    On September 29th, 2008 at 11:49 pm, riggword said:

    Obama will show up!

    What a thought. He will fly in from out of the blue and pull the American damsel off of the tracks just like Mighty Mouse!

    Pelosi, Reid, and Frank will shine the light on Obama as he swoops in!

    Obama, “Here I come to save the day!”