Flash: Senate bailout vote scheduled tomorrow at approx. 9pm Eastern; shamnesty tactics all over again
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Hill sources buzzing. A Senate bailout vote is scheduled tomorrow at 9pm Eastern.
No bill details seen yet.
How it will go down…There will be up to 6 roll call votes on the following items:
(1)Motion to concur on the House message, H.R. 2095, Rail Safety;
(2)a Dorgan amendment relating to H.R. 7081, the U.S. – India Nuclear agreement;
(3)a Bingaman amendment relating to H.R. 7081, the U.S. – India Nuclear agreement;
(4)passage of H.R. 7081, the U.S. – India Nuclear agreement;
(5)a Dodd amendment to H.R. 1424, relating to the bailout package; and
(6)passage of H.R. 1424, the bailout.
Get your fingers dialing:
202-224-3121.
More details:
The structure is this:
The Senate will call up H.R. 1424, the text of which will be substituted with the economic rescue plan (a Dodd amendment which must have the consent of both the Majority and Minority Leaders). The only other amendment in order will be a Sanders amendment that will be handled by a voice vote.
The bill will be subject to a 60-vote threshold for passage.
UPDATE II: House Republicans are saying the Senate vote tomorrow is the work of bicameral, bipartisan negotiations.
From a House GOP Leadership aide: “The Senate moving forward tomorrow with the economic stability package gets us one step closer to the bill becoming law – and that is a good thing. The decision is a product of bipartisan-bicameral discussions and we believe that changes to the bill will help us garner more support from House Republicans and smooth the bill to passage.”
Where’s the bill?
And…Dodd?! Dodd!!!???
Still more trickling in:
Senate leaders have scheduled a vote for Wednesday on the $700 billion Wall Street rescue plan rejected by the House.
Majority Leader Harry Reid and GOP Leader Mitch McConnell say, however, that they’re going to add a tax cut package already rejected by the House on Monday.
The bipartisan move caps a day of behind-the-scenes maneuvering on Capitol Hill over what sweeteners to add to the bill to attract votes from House Republicans.
Reid and McConnell’s move may prove popular with Republicans, but it risks a showdown with House leaders insisting that a popular measure extending certain business tax breaks be financed by tax increases elsewhere in the code.
The Senate plan would also raise federal deposit insurance limits to $250,000 from $100,000.
“Sweeteners?”
Translation: Earmarks to buy votes.
Isn’t that against House rules?
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McConnell is toast.
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And more details:
Components of the alternative plan including the following, according to sources:
* Require the Treasury Department to guarantee, at up to 100 percent, bank losses resulting from failed mortgage-backed securities originated prior to the plan’s enactment. Such insurance, supporters say, would provide immediate value to the securities and a foundation for which they could then be sold. The Treasury Department would finance that insurance by assessing a premium on outstanding mortgage-backed securities.
* Allow companies to carry back losses arising in tax years ending in 2007, 2008, or 2009 back five years, generating a tax refund and immediate capital
* Allow a “repatriation window” for profits earned by U.S. firms overseas. Such repatriation amounts would not be taxed if invested in distressed debt (as defined by Treasury) for at least one year.
* Allow banks to treat losses on shares of preferred stock in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as ordinary losses, not as capital losses
* Suspend the capital gains tax rate for two years
* Limit backing of high-risk loans by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
* Schedule Fannie and Freddie for privatization
* Suspend “mark-to-market” accounting until the SEC can issue new guidelines that will allow firms to mark these assets to their true economic value
* Stabilize the dollar by repealing the Humphrey-Hawkins Full Employment Act, which alternative bailout supporters say diverts the Federal Reserve’s attention from long-term price stability to short-term economic growth
* Require the Treasury to write rules prohibiting excessive compensation or golden parachutes to executives of failed companies
* Task the SEC with regular, annual audit reports of entities the federal government has brought under conservatorship or now owns
The tactics for getting this thing to the floor are reminiscent of the dirty tactics used by the bipartisan shamnesty brigade.
As I like to say: God save us from bipartisanship.
Quin Hilyer blasts the collaborators:
The Senate tomorrow will attach the Wall Street bailout to a “must pass” tax extender bill. This is dirty pool. When you are talking about the single most significant growth of government power EVER, you should let it sink or swim on its own. You don’t attach it to a goodie basket and dare the other chamber to vote against it. To do so is a cheap, despicable tactic. It is the tactic of people without the courage of their convictions — the tactic of cowards. Yes, cowards. I am utterly disgusted with McConnell and the entire Senate leadership. This is not the way to handle legislations as serious as this is. If the House GOP had any guts, then if the Senate sends the House the bill in this form — thus also making a mockery, via legerdemain, of the requirement that such financial bills should start in the House — MORE of the House GOP than before should vote against it, in protest against this sort of hardball pressure.
I think every conservative in the country should raise holy hell about this. AGAINST this tactic. WHATEVER you think about the underlying bailout, this BS is utterly insulting.
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I live in CA but I’ve been contacting John McCain’s office to let him know that if he wants my November vote then he’ll defend conservatism NOW.
Idiots didn’t learn with Amnsety and our fighting them over that. We’ll have to teach them again on this robbery.
I don’t like Lisa but at least she’s doing something for the people here.
I’ll see if Mary Landrieu toes the company line or if she cares about her re-election. Vitter knows better than to cross his constituents given his reduced effectiveness.
I like the idea of contactin McCain’s office too. Great idea.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Time to review…
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Time to review…
Now that they have had time to add more proper pork…GAME ON!!!
FYI, (D-LA) Landrieu’s official contact page is down… Better call her at home.
They let us have a win..one win.
God help the USA
I fear that this thing will pass the senate with little or no problem. Our senators haven’t listened to the will of the people in a long, long time…and I doubt now that their money is on the line they will start doing so.
I know it is just a dream but I wish the government would stay out of this thing and let what happens happen. It seems like everything they touch goes to crap.
All the elected officials pages are down…now isn’t that convenient.
That’s an insult to evan crap, Dianah111.
All together now:
CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS
You know you can say it:
CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS
McCain is toast unless he quits equivocating and forthrightly denounces this as a stinkin’ bailout. “Bailouts? We don’t need no stinkin’ bailouts!“
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Why do they so desperately need to suck 700 billion out of the economy when the market is indicating the economy won’t collapse the SEC provided further relief today by suspending mark to market?
Hello!!
Wait — what? It failed in the House. Why is the Senate voting on it now, and what happens if they pass it?
#1. I agree wholeheartedly on TERM LIMITS
#2. I sent my message to the Webmaster of the Senate. If they can’t keep the site up, flood them instead.
#3. Contact McCain’s office as well, even if he’s not your Senator. He should hear from us via his Senate site and his campaign site.
It’s worth contacting them, but even if they pass it, it may be moot if the House edits the bill. The House “leads”, not the Senate, if I’m not mistaken. That’s the process.
You might try these numbers:
Call Capitol Hill Switchboard TOLL FREE:
1-877 851-6437
1-800 828-0498
1-800 614-2803
1-866 340-9281
1-866 338-1015
1-866 220-0044
Call early. Call often.
7. October
6. November
5. December
4. January
3. February
2. March
1. April: 2% annual tax on IRA’s, 401K’s, Roths. Transactions first, later on entire values over $250,000.
You heard it first. They will name it for Teddy Kennedy.
Well we are underwater…
I agree with other sentiments on this website frustrated with McCain’s waffling on this issue….If McCain does not stand AGainstST THIS BAILOUT NONSENSE, he will be losing many votes big-time.
And despite his pick of Palin, Palin’s selection won’t be enough to save him.
My message to John McCain:
John McCain: saying no to this crap sandwich is the beginning of TRUE reform, are you up to it?
Call it what it is…
Perpetual Tax Hike!!
They talk like the American taxpayer has no say in this as they pick our pockets once again. They make me ill….so tired of having useless self serving, corrupt, greedy pols in the congress. This will end up like the Big Dig in Boston…a bill far exceeding what they proposed and ever growing ….while it fixes nothing. The Big Dig is leaking and poses a danger every time one rides beneath it….Kinda like entrusting congress to do the right thing.(Don’t count on it!)
I know nobody really believes in the Constitution, but all spending bills are required to originate in the House.
Repeal the 17th Amendment and make then answer to the Governors again.
I am voting third party, because the GOP does not deserve my vote.
secondsight I have just left a sternly polite message on McCain’s website with respect to my views on this robbery.
Alternative Solutions to “Bailout” Scam. Contact Congress!
- FIRST,AND FOREMOST, CONGRESS MUST RESPECT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
Congress MUST hold REAL hearings, NOT staged hearings w/ special interest groups.
- INCREASE LIQUIDITY IN THE MARKET NOW BY:
Suspending the mark-to-market accounting requirement imposed by Sarbanes-Oxley.
- SUSPEND CAPITAL GAINS TAX FOR TWO YEARS.
This will encourage sale of assets.
- DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER INSERTING PORK for “Special Interest groups” or “Special Projects” IN ANY LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS FINANCIAL MARKETS.
- INVESTIGATE IMMEDIATELY. Create “Special Task Force” to investigate; Fraud, Pricing Collusion, & Insider trading. The same “Special Task Force” put in place after the ENRON Scam.
- HERE’S A GOOD DEAL FOR TAXPAYERS MONEY:
FOR ANY TAX MONEY OFFERED TO “BAIL OUT” ANY CORPORATION – GET THE U.S. TAXPAYERS “PERPETUAL PREFFERED STOCK” AT 10% LIKE WARREN BUFFET GOT FROM GOLDMAN SACHS.
- REFORM & REGULATE! “TARP”, Troubled Assets Relief Program, OR (“Bailout”) offers NO reforms for the high risk activities in the Market that created this mess.
FOR EXAMPLE: DERIVATIVES MARKET – THE HIGHEST RISK PRODUCTS ARE STILL UNREGULATED – “The job of a derivatives trader is like that of a bookie once removed, taking bets on people making bets.” If Derivatives Traders leave the U.S., which they always threaten to do when lobbying against Regulations in Congress, good riddance!
Roy Blunt should ask for time on the floor just before the vote and lay into the democrats who proposed, supported, extorted and defended their precious Freddie and Fannie, who caused this mess in the first place. Let these crap-masters chew on that!
I frequently use various congress and senate members website to contact them. Most will claim that since your zipcode and address are not within their area that you can’t contact them. To get around that, use their hometown office addresses for your comment, but at the end type your true address in just to show that since they affect the country we all can contact them. Most will not reply, but at least your message has gotten to their websites.
Adding “sweeteners”? Are no new bills/laws good enough to stand on their own? Are our politicians so screwed up that they cannot vote the merits, but rather only if it has pork for their areas? (no response needed to that last)
I have read the Confederate Constitution, (though it did not live long), and it had a provision that each new bill/law was to be offered on its own and not piggy backed with any other.
Makes sense to me, but I suppose that is because I am not as “educated” as the pork barrel divers. Sheesh!
nuf sed
They are trying to pass this in the senate because they feel it will be easier, because not all the senators are up for re-election, and won’t listen to the people as well. This will give it more momentum they feel.
The very reason they are trying to pass this in the Senate first is the exact reason why they are forbidden to by the Constitution! They are too detached from because too many of them are not up for reelection!
No taxation without Representation. This bill raises the debt ceiling and the amount of revenue to be collected another 700 billion dollars, the largest amount ever.
Hope someone pays attention to Paulson’s past conflicts with the AIG bailout and Obama’s links to that via Goldman Sachs:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/09/30/barbarians-at-the-gate/
CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS
CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
Frankly Opinionated said:
“I frequently use various congress and senate members website to contact them. Most will claim that since your zipcode and address are not within their area that you can’t contact them. To get around that, use their hometown office addresses for your comment, but at the end type your true address in just to show that since they affect the country we all can contact them.”
Thanks, great idea.
I have been faxing, like a maniac, for my small coalition, I have assumed that is the best way to go when “time is of the essence”.
But, we WELCOME all suggestions.
Something stinks. There is more going on here than meets the eye.
Why aren’t We The People talking about that?
Economic life for many of us is about to be changed forever. Are we going to allow Pelosi Galore and Harry Reid legislate that too?
There is $63 trillion in derivatives looking for a place to crash. This $700 billion distraction is the least of our problems.
Get ready for the unveiling of the North American Union in the next session of Congress as “the only way to prevent what happened in The Big Mess.”
Fight to the bitter end. We have the right to alter or abolish a government that doesn’t represent us.
Bear1909 out
Thanks for beating me to this MarcoPolo.
Appropriations are SUPPOSED to originate in the House. I wonder what technical stunt the criminals in the house of lords (eg. the US Senate) will use to bring this up and try to pass it???
Hey Senators! Why don’t you first try the plan outlined today by Reps. Kaptur and DeFazio? It costs $0 taxpayer money and might even work… Huh? So why not give it a chance FIRST???
Mitch McConnell is a certified wimp and political crawfish. This weasel is a joke as minority leader.
The American people might as well face it they do not have enough political leaders with genuine testicular courage to block a tear duct.
On September 30th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, Marie said:
Marie, I feel like I’m in grade school…wait, I was in grade school when this went into the Congressional Record. Reading down the list, my brain kept ticking off one point after another:
…Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N…check
…Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind…check
…Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations…check
…Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press…check
…Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy”…check
Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch”…check
…Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce…Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents…
check, check, and double check
We may have won the Cold War, but the enemy is still with us.
“Sweeteners”? We call those “bribes” where I’m from. And to make it all the more despicable, they’re trying to bribe one another, using our money, in order to pass a deal to take $700+ billion from us to give to institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac whose failure stems from Congress’ own shortcomings.
Yeah, I’m for Option B: Dave Ramsey’s Common Sense Fix.
Give me Liberty or give me poverty!!!!!
Oh, also our coalition has been putting “call to action” requests in the Craigslist “Politics” section. Yeah, yeah, there’s some real crazies there, but there are also some concerned citizens there that just need a “jumpstart” & some direction.
http://www.house.gov/house/messaging.shtml
been down since at least 6:30pm CT..they are shutting us out. The handwriting is on the wall, folks. The fiscal year ended today. They will pass the bill…or, Bush will sign an Executive Order. It will happen.
When do we get to see this bicameral, bipartisan piece of bile? Why hasn’t the SEC taken the positive steps suggested by several players and observers to change the mark-to-markup accounting procedures? What about a loan-only approach that puts the financial institutions definitely on the hook? And for heaven’s sake, can be explicitly ban derivatives from purchase, if purchase is implemented? The Treasury should not buy ANYTHING that is not backed by collateral of some value, even if that value is hard to determine quickly. End of story. Oh, and can we get Nan to shut her pie hole on this one, unless she wants to kill it again?
I think you just hit it on the head.
If they have $700B lying around to bail out some bankers, why didn’t they think of giving us back that $700B in the form of a tax cut?
Taxes are outrageous now, yet the fools in Congress think rather than giving us back our money, they’ll just give it to some greedy crook.
Throughout this debate, keep asking yourself what you would do if your share of the $700B were given back to you, the taxpayers.
Folks, we need to absolutely, positively FLOOD their emails and phones on this issue. I’ve already sent emails to my respective senators and plan to at least pay a visit to their local offices tomorrow. While I don’t hold out much hope of these aristocrats listening to me I certainly do plan to make a pest of myself. (In the most respectable manner possible, of course!
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Absolutely. Other legislation can originate in the Senate, but anything involving spending must originate in the House.
Generally, the House passes their tripe, the Senate may pass the same thing, or something similar. If the Senate passes something similar to the House but not the same, then the bill is reconciled between the two, and the sausage comes out the other end.
As I watch my 401k lose value, I feel that the lost value is going straight into the hands of the poor people in this country who bought houses they couldn’t afford. I am now paying for their mortgages.
The bigger problem is it isn’t going straight to them, it goes through Washington first and they will take a big chunk out to go to people that support them. Those people who get this chunk will in turn donate more money to their political campaigns.
I am also afraid that the biggest portion of that will go to Democratic supporters as they go hand in hand with giving the poor these bad mortgages. Everyone will have their hand in this pie. Direct transfer of wealth from those who have it to those who don’t with political cronies taking their cut. All disguised as crisis management.
I smell corruption at the highest levels and lots of it.
Henry Paulson’s Motto:
“Give me liberty, or give me DEBT!”
Good list but you forgot one.
Hold those responsible in the House and Senate who allowed this to happen while ignoring their oversight responsibility.
Senator DeMint will be on my BTR show tomorrow at 9AM. Focus is on Energy Freedom Day will ask about this also.
Bill Collier
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomist/2008/10/01/57th-State-wSen-Demint
Someone posted this link earlier today. I think everyone should read this article. It was pretty eye opening to me. It is a little long but well worth the time.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
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This is insane, the senate is basicly giving the people the finger and saying we will pass this anyway. This is absolute tyranny, the bill is voted down in the house and moves to the senate any way.
Did anyone happen to download the video I posted the the other day entitled Burning Down the House?
On September 30th, 2008 at 9:59 pm, Dianah111 said:
While you’re at it, be sure to read the linked article on the Cloward-Piven Strategy – subtitled Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. It’s, as you say, an eye-opener:
The author of the article states, “Most Americans to this day have never heard of Cloward and Piven.” I’ve been trying to do my bit to be sure that more people do hear about them, and their disciples – especially one particular disciple.
Mike, have you been in the liquor cabinet again? I saw Blunt on Cavuto yesterday and he’s going along with all of this “we have to do it now” fervor. It was sickening. I hope Pence and DeMint stand strong.
He’s already toast and seems determined to lose this election. Dick Morris said he’s down by 6 pts. now and expects him to be down by 12 points next week.
the seventeenth amendment
If this had not been done, we would not have to deal with 100 of the idiots..we only have 435 to whip in line. If anybody REALLY wants to know what this Fed bailout stuff is all about…read “THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND” BY G. Edward Griffen
Repealing the 17th would return a lot of power to the States, and would restore the balance of the Republic.
The people were represented in the House, the States were represented in the Senate, and the Federal government was represented in the Executive branch.
Those guys were geniuses.
I’m just going to keep my mouth shut after my chicken little act on Monday. I just hope things work out for the best for all Americans, whichever way this goes.
You keep forgetting that McCain doesn’t really reach across the aisle, like he claims. He actually just goes across the aisle, but he never even bothers to bring anybody back with him.
It’d sure be nice if we could repeal the 17th Amendment and make the U.S. Senators accountable to the states again.
Good idea. How about this?
US Senators are still elected by the people, but by county. Kind of like a state version of the electoral college. (Not congressional districts which get gerrymandered into pretzels. By county.) Each county gets one vote. Win the popular vote in the county, you get it’s vote.
I live in the Peoples Socialist Quagmire of California. This means that LA-LA County would have the exact same influence as Modoc or Sierra counties; 1 vote. This is fair because a US Senator represents the entire state. Right now, they’re just Representatives-at-Large for the biggest urban areas in the state. It would also force each Senate hopeful to campaign in every county. In CA, they just do their best to win LA County and they’ve won.
Can you imagine Barbara Boxer trying to sell her socialist snake oil to 500 people in a Tri-County Grange Hall?
NANCY P. Says “CONGRESS WILL WORK THIS OUT” in other words we the mighty and MUCH MORE SMATER tha YOU (THE PEOPLE) will do this no matter what you say or think………. I thought it was called the PEOPLES HOUSE???? It must be NANCYIES and HARRYS PLACE NOW!!!!
Let’s FIRE EVERYONE of these SORRY SOB’S the FIRST CHANCE WE GET no MATTER HOW THIS DEAL SHAKES OUT!!!! SEND THEM HOME AMERICA!!!! LET’S SHOW THEM WHO THE BOSS REALLY IS!!!!!!
While these are good ideas in the bill, I’m skeptical about the rest. Where is the promise not to use taxpayer money? When will the investigations come? When will both Wall Street and politicians that had a conflict of interest (such as Dodd) be investigated, prosecuted, and given lengthy prison terms? Where is the justice?
I’m very disappointed about McConnell. He’s another RINO. He cares about slave labor, business interests, and reaching across the isle rather than doing what’s right. He didn’t change Washington. Washington changed him. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Kentucky voters have had enough and just threw him out. I wouldn’t.
How did it all go so wrong? I’m having trouble identifying with either party anymore. I just feel like barbarian hordes are closing in and there’s nothing I can do to prevent it.
America has sold her soul for the worthless dollar. I’m a profit-loving capitalist like the next conservative, but I just feel like the taxpayer isn’t well-served here. Aren’t we supposed to be learning from this debacle? How are we to right the ship when we don’t even know what to fix to keep it adrift? How?
I’m just sick. Really sick. I can’t believe this is happening.
I guess Texas told Bush and the World Court where to shove that.
Like Rush said… this is just a gag by Dems to pin any kind of blame they can on Republicans.
They know people hate this universally. Anyone who votes for it is poisoned on Nov 4th.
So… dems will politely say to Repubs..”You guys vote first. Remember.. we’re right behind you.”
As the dems then plot about which of them gets to vote know.
What a bunch of pieces of crap Reid, Pelosi and the rest of them are. This is ALL about politics for them.. while they say republicans are injecting politics.
Pieces of s___.
err.. vote “no”… I’m tired.
LOL, I thought it was a new type of ‘vote present’
And this is a BAILOUT. Not a rescue.
I can’t seem to get the opening of The Human Beinz’s version of “Nobody But Me” out of my head.
Squirrel… lol… hey.. if Obama could.. he would.
If it’s war they’re looking for, they’re headed in the right direction.
hey, the alternative plan sounds like the one Congressman Pence is supporting GO HERE .
I emailed Congressman Pence’s aid, asking for an interview, will keep yall posted. Also, I will ask Senator DeMint tomorrow at 9AM what he knows: what is being considered??
God Bless and let us hope all is well.
Some Good News:
Energy Freedom Day is here!
We have over 3 times as much oil as Saudi Arabia.
The USA could become not only 100% Energy Independent, we could become an oil EXPORTER! That would bring incredible prosperity to this country, which is exactly why the Communists want to prevent it.
Seems like there ought to also be a rule against those getting government support from buying off CongressCritters with donations. There’s too much money involved to expect this to go forward without tinkering in the background to screw things up.
I did actually get through on email to both my loony left Senators…Murry and Cantwell. Not saying they will listen, but the voices must be heard…SAY NO TO THIS SHAMEFUL BILL.
Thursday’s popcorn n watch hairplug flail time!!!
After all that has gone on with Fannie & Freddie and the financial meltdown, does anyone remember what the Democrats claimed to be Sarah Palin’s first gaffe? This is it from Sept. 8, 2008:
Do you also remember what the Democrats’ alleged expert had to say about her comments?
No, Fannie and Freddie haven’t cost us a dime. The mortgage meltdown is all a figment of our imagination just like Obama’s calls for tax increases and his opposition to the surge.
I wonder if the so-called expert has gotten a clue yet about where the “too expensive to tax payers” comes from. Time has proven that this was no gaffe. Sarah was not only 100% correct, she was prophetic. The Democrats? Well, they still don’t have a clue.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/soros-floats-alternative-bailout-plan-with-dems-2008-09-30.html
Check this out.
What happened to the investigation of the kid that hacked Gov Palins email??
Probably gets $20 million and a job as Jamie Gorelick’s intern.
The question on every senator and representative’s mind is not, “Can this bill save the country’s economy”, but, “How can I profit politically and financially from this ‘crisis’”? Don’t expect a “clean” piece of legislation to be passed. Expect all sorts of “goodies” to be attached. It’s a major election year. Votes and power are priority, not the economy.
Are you friggin kidding me?
Soro’s plan…
Yeah. Right. Move to make the US Gov’t investors in banks. I think we should leave that whole “State Owned” thing to Russia and others.
If we repeal the 17th, each state would be free to choose the method they use to select their Senators. So the loonies in California could still use direct their beloved direct vote.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful to have half the governors threatening to recall the senators right now though?
Sigh.
email sent to Senator McCain this morning. Here’s his chance to shine, distance himself from Barry…and help us out too.
TexasEngineer, I would ask you “what Obama lead?” That man has NEVER lead. Instead he always avoids the issue and votes “present”, unless he’s voting to kill babies.
Why are you people intent on punishing the victims of this disaster rather than the perpetrators, Dodd, Waters, Frank, etc? Those are the people who need to be brought before the court of public opinion and metaphorically drawn and quartered. Lobby your people in Washington to arrange a nicely progressive tax on obscene compensation bonuses for driving a company to ruin. How does a 90% of the bonus tax rate sound?
{^_^}
Rabid,
His daddy took away his computer for 24 hours.
I believe the main ones involved should have to pay out of their pockets, bank accounts, and salaries to pay back the government.
Why isn’t this occurring?
Yes. Have dialed encouraging them to pass this as quickly as possible. also e-mailed last night and this AM.
My senators are useless. Lautenberg and Menendez. The only thing that might change their vote is a bigger bribe than they got to vote FOR it.
For Lautenberg.. if he drools out of the left side of mouth, that’s a Yea.. if he drools out of the right side… that’s a nay.
So who can we call to make them push for changes to the mortgage lending requirements and to lay blame on groups like ACORN and Greenlining? Sen. Inhofe? I forget who were the senators with a spine.
Any suggestions?
Who is up for re election. I bet they have phone numbers and email addresses.
# 3 Races
* 3.1 Retirements
o 3.1.1 Wayne Allard (R) of Colorado
o 3.1.2 Larry Craig (R) of Idaho
o 3.1.3 Chuck Hagel (R) of Nebraska
o 3.1.4 Pete Domenici (R) of New Mexico
o 3.1.5 John Warner (R) of Virginia
* 3.2 Democratic incumbent races
o 3.2.1 Mark Pryor of Arkansas
o 3.2.2 Joe Biden of Delaware
o 3.2.3 Dick Durbin of Illinois
o 3.2.4 Tom Harkin of Iowa
o 3.2.5 Mary Landrieu of Louisiana
o 3.2.6 John Kerry of Massachusetts
o 3.2.7 Carl Levin of Michigan
o 3.2.8 Max Baucus of Montana
o 3.2.9 Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey
o 3.2.10 Jack Reed of Rhode Island
o 3.2.11 Tim Johnson of South Dakota
o 3.2.12 Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia
* 3.3 Republican incumbent races
o 3.3.1 Jeff Sessions of Alabama
o 3.3.2 Ted Stevens of Alaska
o 3.3.3 Saxby Chambliss of Georgia
o 3.3.4 Pat Roberts of Kansas
o 3.3.5 Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
o 3.3.6 Susan Collins of Maine
o 3.3.7 Norm Coleman of Minnesota
o 3.3.8 Thad Cochran of Mississippi
o 3.3.9 Roger Wicker of Mississippi
o 3.3.10 John Sununu of New Hampshire
o 3.3.11 Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina
o 3.3.12 Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma
o 3.3.13 Gordon Smith of Oregon
o 3.3.14 Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
o 3.3.15 Lamar Alexander of Tennessee
o 3.3.16 John Cornyn of Texas
o 3.3.17 Michael Enzi of Wyoming
o 3.3.18 John Barrasso of Wyoming
I have been circulating this link in my emails. I know Blunt is going to get an earful.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2094014/posts
Here is what is presented to us as reality then there is the unknowable we get a biased “presentation of what our reality is” Now the media has behaved like Chicken Littles, through this Bail Out Hype twice, the world was going to end if it didn’t get passed immediately. Twice the world didn’t end because the American People, didn’t buy the Paulson Splurge. So if this is the effect the Media has on the Viewing pubic. How is skewing coverage for Obama, going to help him anymore? I don’t think people are trusting coverage myself. When I asked my daughter, the other day if she was following it. She said mom, the minute the news channels, started in with the sky is falling scenario, I turned the news off. How many others did the same? This is an example of the People, who vote, who would be stuck with 700 Billion Bail Out, Work Out, Rescue Package, really thinks, after all the hyped Media Coverage. I hope the Democrats, have another plan besides their biased propaganda machines, propping Obama up. Obama a Paper Tiger? It is a fair question. This overlaps into Gwen Ifill being biased, if the ONE is so strong and he is going to be victorious, why does he need the playing field rigged? This bias is what is presented to us as Reality vs The Unknowable. Where is “I took the Red Pill”
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/house-limits-constituent-e-mails-to-prevent-crash-2008-09-30.html
Government policies exacerbated and extended the Great Depression.
Government policies will cause and exacerbate the Greater Depression.
And it’s right around the corner.
This is just a stop gap to get through election day then all hell will break loose.
Buy bullets and food.
Lou Dobbs was just on Imus in the Morning, saying there is no need for any bail out bill to be brought up on or voted on in either the Senate or the House. Lou Dobbs said we can do the exact same thing we did back in 1987. This is all for show Politics. He said this is a run on the Govt., to fund the left’s far left groups like ACORN. So Paulson should be fired, and Cox should do what he should have been doing all along. This is a manufactured crisis.
They usually put up the podcast to the interviews I will post the link when they put Lou Dobbs up. He is the only one I watch on CNN. I can’t stomach any of the others.
I feel like I am riding around with Butch Cassidy & the Sundance kid. This freakin thing keeps following us around.
Who are these guys?
Hey.. if there really is a Credit Freeze, as these Pundits are claiming there is…
Where is the endless list of companies that can’t get credit?
So far we’ve about two that were BS and one that was grossly exaggerated.
Credit freeze? Where? Show me? They say it’s happening now. If the freeze is that ACORN clients can’t get a loan.. I say we’ve achieved major success.
Florida:
Despite receiving overwhelming opposition from callers, Sen. Mel Martinez is supporting the bill (shocker!). Dem Senator Bill Nelson is opposed.
Thank you, MarcoPolo
Section 7 – Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto
All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
This is ALL politics. We don’t need this bill. It’s unconstitutional and unnecessary. McCain’s drop in polls is the loss of conservatives who hopped on with Palin and are hopping off with his support of this $1 trillion+ rip-off. Socializing lending practices (CRA and ACORN) and then socializing the remedy are the left’s strategy – it’s lunacy to most Americans – another nail in the coffin of free markets and America as we knew her. Even Boehner has signed on to the “new” bill as of this AM. The people know instinctively that this is wrong. God help us once President Obummer gets in there with 60+ Dem Senators and a Dem majority in the house. His cabinet is going to make Clinton’s look conservative. Plus, he’ll get to turn SCOTUS left again with at least one new opening. Stocking up on food and bullets may not be a bad idea.
the GOP has an alternative bill that says:
Limit backing of high-risk loans by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
* Schedule Fannie and Freddie for privatization
* Stabilize the dollar by repealing the Humphrey-Hawkins Full Employment Act, which alternative bailout supporters say diverts the Federal Reserve’s attention from long-term price stability to short-term economic growth
link
among other things…this would be good.
On October 1st, 2008 at 8:36 am, Laree said:
I’m here, but it’s going to be a busy day for me, so I don’t know how much I’ll get to comment.
I agree with most of what you said.
We must remember that only 4 short years ago, with the same biased MSM media, and with less of a conservative presence on the Internet, President Bush still received a greater percentage of the popular vote than any Democratic Presidential candidate has received since LBJ in 1964. If you discount 1964, as I do, because the country was looking for stability in the wake of the 1963 Kennedy assassination, then you have to go back all the way to FDR to find a Democrat who received a greater percentage of the popular vote. And, of course, FDR used economic crisis to his advantage. And, of course, the Great Depression was exacerbated by the Federal Reserve (which is neither “Federal” nor “Reserve”…discuss…I’m getting verklempt).
Truth is on our side. Lies and all forms of deception are on their side. The more people know the truth, the more it will set them free.
I don’t trust any MSM polls. But I do like what I see in the results of AOL Hot Seat Polls. I’m fully aware that it is the electoral college vote, and not the popular vote, that determines our next President. But in many AOL Hot Seat Polls, like this one, I see a majority of voters in an overwhelming majority of states, showing a conservative mindset.
I truly believe that in a fraud-free election, McCain-Palin would win in an electoral college landslide. The only way Obama can “win” is with massive fraud. That is why I pray daily for all fraud to be exposed, prosecuted, convicted, and prevented. The future of our Constitutional Republic literally depends on it.
But no matter what happens in the election, as a Bible-believing, Bible-clinging believer in the LORD Jesus Christ, I do not live in fear and worry.