Gwen Ifill’s employers at PBS: “[N]ot sure what the big deal is;” clueless McCain agrees

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 1, 2008 01:45 PM

Responding to questions about PBS anchor/VP debate moderator/”Age of Obama”-proclaiming author Gwen Ifill’s conflicts of interest, a PBS spokeswoman huffed: “The book has been a known factor for months, so I’m not sure what the big deal is.”

It wasn’t a “known factor” to the McCain campaign. And it’s highly doubtful the American public would have been fully informed about Ifill’s Inauguration Day-timed Obama book before Thursday by PBS or Ifill or the Presidential Debate Commission.

John McCain told Fox News that’s he confident the “well-respected” Ifill will be fair. But at the heart of the controversy is an issue McCain is supposed to care deeply about: Transparency.

Perhaps he and PBS flacks should review their government-funded network’s own editorial standards before pooh-poohing fundamental questions about Ifill’s damaged credibility:

C. Objectivity
Along with fairness and accuracy, objectivity is the third basic standard to which journalists are held. While PBS holds all news and informational content to standards of objectivity, PBS recognizes that other types of content may not have the objective presentation of facts as their goal.

Objectivity, however, encompasses more than news and information presented in a neutral way. It also refers to the process by which a work was produced, including work that involves analysis or, as a result of reporting, arrives at conclusions. To begin with, journalists must enter into any inquiry with an open mind, not with the intent to present a predetermined point of view. Beyond that, for a work to be considered objective, it should reach a certain level of transparency. In a broad sense, this spirit of transparency means the audience should be able to understand the basics of how the producers put the material together. For example, the audience generally should be able to know not only who the sources of information are, but also why they were chosen and what their potential biases might be. As another example, if producers face particularly difficult editorial decisions that they know will be controversial, they should consider explaining why choices were made so the public can understand. Producers should similarly consider explaining to the audience why certain questions could not be answered, including why, if confidential sources are relied on, the producers agreed to allow the source to remain anonymous. And the spirit of transparency suggests that if the producers have arrived at certain conclusions or a point of view, the audience should be able to see the evidence so it can understand how that point of view was arrived at. One aspiration implicit in the idea of transparency is that an audience might appreciate and learn from content with which it also might disagree.

Opinion and commentary are different from news and analysis. When a program, segment, or other content is devoted to opinion or commentary, the principle of transparency requires that it be clearly labeled as such. Any content segment that presents only like-minded views without offering contrasting viewpoints should be considered opinion and should identify who is responsible for the views being presented.

No content distributed by PBS should permit conscious manipulation of selected facts in order to propagandize.

Ifill’s failure to acknowledge her book and the legitimate ethical questions it raises on Thursday night would be a dereliction of duty.

Period.

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  1. #478629
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:46 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Not sure what the big deal is? GIVE ME A BREAK!

  2. #478633
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:47 pm, Jeddite said:

    I can’t quite recall, but didnt the Democrats throw a huge cryfest hissyfit about some of the Democrat primary debates being hosted by Fox News Channel?

  3. #478644
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:50 pm, right4life said:

    neither is mccain, apparently…just listening to him on Rush…damn is he STOOOPID!!

  4. #478647
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pm, MrVIBEMAN said:

    and what their potential biases might be.

    PBS Just failed the sniff test…

    Yep..they stink.

  5. #478648
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pm, bradley said:

    Tell me again, WHY do taxpayers fund this useless organization? Any “spokeswoman” as clueless as the one PBS throws out should be fired. Wait…she’ll end up president of the networks, and leading the bi-annual begathons. “Tonight, for a $100 donation, we’ll send you a copy of Gwyn Ifil’s leftist book about Obama”. Operators are standing by.

  6. #478650
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pm, Flyoverman said:

    If the McCain campaign goes ahead with this debate they are idiots. However, that realization will surprise no one.

  7. #478651
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

    The “journalist” fraud. I see a bunch of socialist liberal clowns on TV calling themselves journalist but nobody is buying that. They are left wing advocates pushing their Obambi/Pelosi/Reid agenda down the throats of the American people.

    Maybe we should refer to Gwen like the lefties refer to Condi Rice. Just find one of their racist hatchet jobs on Rice and sub in the name Gwen Ifill or Barrack Hussein Obambi.

  8. #478654
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:52 pm, wrcnossen said:

    I wonder if they would know what the big deal was if Rush were the moderator?

  9. #478661
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:54 pm, walterc said:

    Having a biased moderator is one thing, but having a moderator that stands to gain financially by the outcome of the debate is a whole different situation.

    I understand that Hillary is busy with the bailout, but isn’t someone else a little less biased available? Like maybe Bill Maher or Michael Moore? /sarc

  10. #478662
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:54 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    There is no reason why professional journalists have to moderate these debates. By far the best “moderator” performance was by Rick Warren at Saddleback. He was truly impartial and asked the best possible questions. Ifill and PBS are a disaster – and we should not be funding this organization.

  11. #478664
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:55 pm, in_awe said:

    Welcome to the Obamanation, where your thoughts are closely monitored, miscreants who raise questions are intimidated and aggressively handled. Yeah, it is gonna be a LONG 8 years…

  12. #478665
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:55 pm, MrVIBEMAN said:

    Her past jobs have included 3 years with the NY Times, a stint at NBC, and she’s on the Board of the Harvard Institute of Politics. If that history doesn’t show her bias, nothing does.

  13. #478670
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:56 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    John McCain told Fox News that’s he confident the “well-respected” Ifill PBS Obama shill will be fair.

    HAHAHAHA! Oh John, you are quite the commedian:)

  14. #478671
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:57 pm, tyrfing said:

    McCain’s campaign approved of Ifill as a moderator. If they now have a raving left-wing partisan(who has a financial interest in Obama winning the election no less) its their own fault.

    If McCain is counting on fairness from the MSM to win this thing, he’s just wasting our time. And to expect anything other than vindictiveness after what McCain/Palin have said about the media is laughable.

  15. #478672
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Mister P said:

    Yeah, it is gonna be a LONG 8 years

    Once you get the Chicago political machine, you will never get rid of it. Where are the Republicans in Chicago?

  16. #478674
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:57 pm, cheapseat said:

    gee, another taxpayer funded pig (pbs) sucking at the government spigot who doesn’t see any conflict in gwen ifill being a moderator in tomorrows debate. who would have thunk another liberal posing as a journalist wouldn’t see any conflict of interest. let’s let the owners of the st louis rams put on the referee’s jersey this sunday so maybe they can win one game this season. the owners of the cubs can referee the playoffs so they too can win a series every century or so. that’s fair right?

  17. #478676
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:58 pm, bloodhound said:

    It’s PBS (Politbureau Broadcasting System), what did we expect?

  18. #478677
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:58 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Board of the Harvard Institute of Politics

    How many bomb-makers do you have to sleep with to get on that board?

  19. #478679
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:59 pm, bloodhound said:

    Where are the Republicans in Chicago?

    Wearing concrete overshoes at the bottom of the river!

  20. #478682
    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:59 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Yeah, I just saw that pukeworthy interview with McCain.

    PBS — Pure BS

  21. #478685
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:00 pm, tyrfing said:

    the owners of the cubs can referee the playoffs so they too can win a series every century or so. that’s fair right?

    The Cubs would still find a way to lose…lol

  22. #478686
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:01 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Where are the Republicans in Chicago?
    Wearing concrete overshoes at the bottom of the river!

    After whice, ACORN reregistered them as Democrats.

  23. #478688
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:01 pm, ajmontana said:

    Have faith in Gov. Palin……
    I do. Bigtime. 8)

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′

  24. #478692
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:02 pm, Rob said:

    John McCain told Fox News that’s he confident the “well-respected” Ifill will be fair.

    Hey McAmnesty, remember THE VIEW??

  25. #478693
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:03 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:01 pm, ajmontana said:
    Have faith in Gov. Palin……
    I do. Bigtime.

    I do! She’s just gotta use her hockey mom skills and slap some sense ino McPain.

  26. #478695
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:03 pm, flaming_o said:

    “Well-respected”? Senator McCain is being way too polite considering Ms. Ifill appears ready to leapfrog over Keith Olbermann for job of Press Secretary in the Age of Obama.

    Conflict of Interest-gate meets Press Secretary-gate! Sounds like fun.

  27. #478700
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:05 pm, iamsaved said:

    I keep hearing about how Sarah Palin misspoke during her interview with Katie Couric and that she’s not qualified to be Vice President.

    I’d like to know who decides what “qualified” means and what it doesn’t. If it means someone is qualified who plays the beltway politics like a pro; that they are glib in their responses offering professional sound bites; that their jaded view of the average American is the accepted view, then I don’t want that “qualified” person.

    I’m sick of all the past, so-called, qualified politicians we’ve had stuffed down our throats for the past few decades.

    I like Sarah Palin because she understands what middle America is all about. She experiences the same things we expericence and shares the same world view.

    It’s exactly because she doesn’t fit the mold of what the pundits have determined is “qualified” is why I think she is the perfect fit for the office.

    The vitriolic reaction of the liberals to Sarah Palin when her selection was first announced reminds me of the early Christian church and it’s struggles. For the first 300 years or so, Satan did his best to persecute it from without. Finally, it dawned on him that he could be more effective if he joined the church – i.e. wolves in sheeps clothing. They’ve been wreaking havoc for centuries and are still among us.

    In comparison, with Sarah Palin, the attacks, character assassinations, and lies had the opposite effect, so now the MSM and their zombies are trying a new tactic by trying to portray her as unqualified, a dimwit, or inconsequential.

    It will be difficult for John McCain and Sarah Palin to overcome this assault since the MSM in both print and on television is in the tank for Obama – producing only positive reports of Obama while squelching the negative and doing the opposite for the McCain ticket.

  28. #478709
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:06 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    ajmontana said:

    The force is strong with this one.

  29. #478708
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:06 pm, JT said:

    Could McCain be afraid the race issue since Ifill is black? I can see the Democrats and media race baters playing the race card, if the RNC tries getting Ifill pulled at this late hour.

  30. #478710
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:07 pm, sandyb said:

    Man, I miss Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Ron Paul. Hell, I even miss Rudy. I’m just torn about whether McSame has Alzheimers or dementia or PTSD. Sigh.

  31. #478712
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:07 pm, Blaise said:

    I just wish Sen. McCain would fight.

  32. #478714
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pm, ajmontana said:

    I’m still trying to unscramble my brain from the thizzle, yo. 8)

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′

  33. #478715
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I’m done for the day… I think. I just can’t stomach much more of this.

    Later folks.

  34. #478719
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:10 pm, ajmontana said:

    bye 30, just sent you an e mail. :) I’m out too…. peace everyone.
    You too Michelle, take a breath… lol

  35. #478722
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:11 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    McCain seems to be like one of those nobody boxers that fought against Mike Tyson back in the day.

    They knew they were going to get their butts kicked and it was going to be painful for a few hours, but right before they were knocked unconcious, all they could hear was “Cha-Ching!!!

  36. #478724
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:11 pm, thirteen28 said:

    John McCain told Fox News that’s he confident the “well-respected” Ifill will be fair. But at the heart of the controversy is an issue McCain is supposed to care deeply about: Transparency.

    Ugh, that’s scary. I hope they’ll free Sarah enough to let her bring it up during the debate and put Ifill back on her heels. If they are going to let Ifill do the debate, they should demand that she openly acknowledge the conflict of interest at the beginning, with another reminder about halfway through.

  37. #478726
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pm, EL Rider said:

    Well PBS and NPR are the media outlets that we are forced to pay for. What a dishonest bunch. I was once bounced from NPR so that they could interview Robert Riech, his entire discussion was on the discredited idea that the Gereat Depression was caused by too much “speculation.” That talk ignored the now well established theories concerning high taxes and anti-trade legislation. This was one week after Obama and Clinton were in Ohio saying that they each would raise taxes and cut off NAFTA. Pure, unadulterated propaganda.

  38. #478730
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:13 pm, America1st said:

    Is it just me or is the only thing McCain has done right is make the Palin pick?

    He has been blowing just about everything else. I mean it is free points if he just takes a shot. He doesnt have to sling mud to score. Missed opportunities abound in his campaign

  39. #478731
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:14 pm, Hangfire said:

    I close my eyes, and I can picture John McCain’s mother scolding him, “Johnny, don’t touch the stove, it’s hot! Johnny! Don’t!!!

  40. #478732
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:14 pm, Bhishma said:

    Arn’t McCain supporters stupid, while he does not support his supporters or himself?

  41. #478734
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:15 pm, onefed said:

    I was on the fence with the “let the democrats get elected and run the country into the ground and we’ll be pick up the pieces later” attitude between the pick of Palin and the utter failure that encompasses an Obama presidency; but frankly, if McCain (the supposed leader) doesn’t care, why should I?

    Let McCain lose in November (seems he’s dead-set wanting it); we’re America (well, at least some segment of the population is)…we’ll clean up later (e.g., Bill Clinton).

  42. #478740
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:17 pm, brooklyn red said:

    They love big government so much… so wtf is the FCC?? & just who is publishing Ifell’s book anyway???

  43. #478742
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:17 pm, MrScribbler said:

    Exactly what do you expect McCain to say, Michelle? First, he must know damn well that any question concerning Ifill’s affiliations wouldn’t even make the bottom of the obit page in the MSM, and that any question he raises will be twisted, slanted and distorted as racist, anti-woman, uncaring and, well, Republican.

    McCain has long been polite and respectful of his opponents. I’m sorry they have betrayed that innate fairness, but a change in tactics would do nothing but generate more attacks.

    Ideally, his supporters should be making the case for him (Osama Obama’s surrogates are exceptionally good at that), but so many on McCain’s side seem to be snarking at him, just as you often do.

    Traditionally, a “leader” should be seen as above the fray to some extent. After all, he or she will be forced to deal with the goons in the media and former opponents after the election.

    My take is that the Republicans are whining like Dems right now, and are doing less behind the scenes to watch McCain’s back.

    Hope you all enjoy eight years of The Messiah. I know I won’t.

  44. #478743
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:17 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    McCain can’t complain because McCain should have known (and probably did). This was reported by AP as early as July 23, two weeks before the debates were agreed to.

    No issue.

  45. #478744
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    we need someone who is actually looking out for “We The People” and will ask tuff questions of both candidates on behalf of the public not the special interests or those holding a major stake in either candidate!!

  46. #478745
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pm, aj4runner said:

    McCain’s response here is just another clue that this race is already over. McCain is going down in flames. Hopefully Governor Sarah Palin can avoid the collateral damage so she can run as the true conservative we all want to see in 2012 and / or 2016.

  47. #478747
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Glamchild said:

    And, therein lies the problem with McCain: he isn’t fighting back hard enough.

    Every single attack, every single impropriety needs to be addressed instantly, directly and hard. You deal with it. You deal with each and every one. Just DEAL ! How? By firing back.

    There were 30 days in September. For each of those 30 days, both Palin and McCain should have worked in Ayers, Rezko, Wright, and Alinsky into every single one of their soundbites.

    Good grief…if you’re going to go down, at least go down fighting . McCain doesn’t need to have a tantrum. All he needs to do in a very calm, gentlemanly voice is mention the Big Four (Ayers, Rezko, Wright & Alinsky) in every single statement.

    They need to take to the streets and start debating with the public, direct Q&A’s two and three times a day, from now till November, if necessary.

    Just deal with it ! And the way to deal is to fire back and hard !!!!!

  48. #478749
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Elizabetty said:

    PBS = PDS

  49. #478756
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:23 pm, Joy said:

    On October 1st, 2008 at 1:54 pm, walterc said:
    Having a biased moderator is one thing, but having a moderator that stands to gain financially by the outcome of the debate is a whole different situation.

    This is an excellent point!

  50. #478757
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:24 pm, johnsteele said:

    I’m beginning to think that McCain does not want to win. He knows that winning will upset his Democrat and MSM friends and he is simply not willing to do that.

  51. #478758
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:24 pm, changer1701 said:

    This is an effin joke, as is McCain’s response. She has no business moderating this debate; hell, she has no business on the news, period, as a so-called “objective” journalist. Put her on MSNBC between bathtub boy and Maddow…she’ll fit right in.

    All of this is such a farce, I’m just sick of it. I have to keep reminding myself it took Carter to get us Reagan…

  52. #478763
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:26 pm, mlnicosia said:

    I gave up on McCain when he didn’t fight back against the bailout. Still, his response to this is worse. And i never got my darn ‘Obama Energy Plan’ tire gauge either!

  53. #478764
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:27 pm, iamsaved said:

    McCain sort of reminds me of the lethargic campaign of Fred Thompson. His heart isn’t in it anymore.

  54. #478767
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:29 pm, nyc123me said:

    McCain, you do not deserve to represent us, and do not deserve to be POTUS. Obama certainly doesn’t, but nor do you.

  55. #478772
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:30 pm, Ricco said:

    IMHO, by McCain saying that Awful Ifill will be fair makes her a big part of the story. That is something no journalist wants.

    He can’t decide not to show or throw a hissy- fit to get her removed but he can manage expectations. She is also being set up to be taken to task by him and others if she is not fair and balanced.

    It’s is not always, if ever, fair. In life and especially in politics, you gotta build a bridge and get over it.

  56. #478774
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:32 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    PBS:

    “The book has been a known factor for months, so I’m not sure what the big deal is.”

    ACORN:

    “The organization has been known for voter fraud for years, so I’m not sure what the big deal is.”

    Obama:

    “The Senator has been known to keep company with radicals for years, so I’m not sure what the big deal is.”

  57. #478777
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:33 pm, ScottyDog said:

    John McCain is a disaster. Why not let Keith Olbermann host the debate too.

  58. #478779
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:34 pm, atheling said:

    If McCain’s camp complains, the media will dismiss it as a means to say “not fair!” if Sarah loses the debate. It will make him look childish.

    We, the public, as well as real professional media folks, should be the ones to complain. It’s up to us to exert the pressure.

  59. #478781
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:34 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    I find it interesting that none of you seem as concerned about Tom Brokaw, who has been accepted by both campaigns as the moderator of an upcoming Presidential debate – despite the fact that he is a long-time personal friend of McCain’s who has been acting at the liaison between the McCain campaign and NBC News…

    If you’d ever actually WATCHED a debate, you’d realize the role the moderator plays in these events is circumscribed both by precedent and by image. Ifill won’t destroy her future career options to further Obama’s ambitions any more than Brokaw will for McCain’s.

    Pot, calling Kettle… Come in, Kettle…

  60. #478782
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:35 pm, vickisoup said:

    This from Matthew 24:
    4Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

    9″Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

    Stand firm.

  61. #478789
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:37 pm, Glamchild said:

    For example: Sarah Palin went transferred to six different colleges, and majored in journalism.

    While Obama went to Harvard and majored in Saul Alinsky !

    See what I’m saying? It’s very easy to take these so-called ‘negatives’ and turn them right around.

    Sarah Palin’s gift is that she speaks the language of the common man…so why waste time dithering with elites like Katie Couric? Palin talk directly with the people at extended Q&A, even the public who won’t vote for her….let Palin go directly to them and debate with them in Townhall sessions. The Cheesesteak Place was great, but it wasn’t extended enough and it didn’t go on long enough.

    They have 31 days in October. That’s 31 days for Palin to take to the streets (video cam in hand) and take her case directly to the common man whose language she speaks, via Townhalls with Q&A, just like Hillary did day after day.

    Palin needs to speak directly to the people. She doesn’t need to be filtered thru the likes of Katie Couric.

    31 days, and 31 opportunities for direct Q&A and debate.

    31 Days (34?) in which to bring up Ayers, Rezko, Wright, and Alinsky.

    Just keep going, deal with whatever, and pound the pavement !!!!!!

  62. #478790
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:38 pm, mushroom said:

    Ask the Commission on Presidential Debates if she will acknowledge her conflict of interest: 202-872-1020.

    And here’s the e-mail address of Janet H. Brown, Executive Director of the Debates Commission: jb@debates.org

    Phone is off the hook. Emails returned. Now what? I’ll fight even if McCain won’t. As awful as he is, he’s still better than that anti-American, pro-terrorist, Muslim-loving Communist Obama.

  63. #478791
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:38 pm, frontierguy said:

    I don’t think McCain wants this job anymore. The anointed one is in for a rude awakening when all of his promises fall flat and he can only pull one term. I think Americans will find out the same thing they did after they put in Carter. I will bite the bullet for the next 4 years then hope with my fingers crossed that we get another Raegan after the disaster that is ahead of us.

  64. #478796
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:39 pm, RedDog said:

    Double standards and unintended consequences. We are living in a parallel universe and the other aims to dispose of us once and for all.

    Please don’t compare Brokaw to Ifill. That’s like comparing Olivier to Rob Schneider.

  65. #478797
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:39 pm, vickisoup said:

    Having a biased moderator is one thing, but having a moderator that stands to gain financially by the outcome of the debate is a whole different situation.

    I couldn’t agree more. Who cares about her book if Obama loses? This, alone, should disqualify her.
    Stand firm.

  66. #478798
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:39 pm, txvet2 said:

    Railing against McCain is as much a waste of time as railing against the Iraq war or the current financial fiasco. You can’t go back and change your mind. As one of the most fervent andi-McCain posters on the board, I can only point out that the illegal activity you see now from the Obamessiah and his thugs is nothing compared to what you’ll see once he’s elected and can do it under the cover of “legality”. Don’t think you’re going to throw him or the Democrats in Congress out in one term (or maybe in two). You won’t have the opportunity.

  67. #478799
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    OneMonkeysUncle said:

    Thanks for blessing us with your BS moron. PS: Drop dead.

  68. #478801
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm, Paul Revere said:

    I’m not sure what McCain-Palin has to lose on this. If Ifill is partisan (and she will be), they come out smelling good no matter how Sarah performs. I happen to think she’ll get the 3 point play of 1) Doing well 2) Calling Gwen out 3) Backlash from the public at the media assertion she lost (that template is already written). I suggest Gov. Palin brush up on her black history just in case Ifill asks her who Crispus Attucks was. For some reason he’s an icon in the black community for being involved in a drive-by shooting.

  69. #478802
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm, love2rumba said:

    All of this is such a farce, I’m just sick of it. I have to keep reminding myself it took Carter to get us Reagan…

    That is where we are heading…the long-range question is that since the Republicans are not reliable defenders of conservative values, how shall we make our own way separate and apart from their lackadaisical influence and support?

    I am beginning to believe that regardless how any of us votes on election day (for McCain or a 3rd party candidate), that we are rapidly sliding to an oligarchic de facto one party rule, and that we as conservatives in order to survive and prosper politically need to begin making our home elsewhere than the Republican Party….they just aren’t cutting it..I believe this bailout-if passed by congress- particularly is going to become a seminal event in that transformation of the conservative movement,particularly since how the Repubs are just letting Dodd/Frank write this legislation-foxes being let back in the hen house-and cooperating with the Dems to prevent the American people from venting their disgust (House switchboard issue) and otherwise willfully ignoring them with this senate vote (which isn’t constitutional in the first place as an orignation of spending).

  70. #478806
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm, JD in D.C. said:

    Accept it:

    McCAIN IS A DEMOCRAT!

    ACCEPT IT!

    Your have 3 choices: a socialist, Ted Kennedy’s best friend, or a third-party.

    That’s it.

  71. #478805
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm, bloodhound said:

    Well I guess we can look forward to the next presidential debate moderator panel:

    Bill Mahr, Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews, and Da-vid Lettermaaaaaaannnn!

    McCain will comment that they’re all well respected journalists and he’s sure they will be fair!

  72. #478808
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:43 pm, right4life said:

    that we are rapidly sliding to an oligarchic de facto one party rule

    ding ding ding!! you win the prize!!

  73. #478809
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:43 pm, behiker said:

    If Ifell isn’t fair in her questioning, this will be a perfect opportunity for Sarah Palin to call her out during the debate. And, something about her makes me think that she would do that.

    Ifell has been put on notice that we know about her book. She better stay in line or else she will prove that she can’t be fair. That would give McCain/Palin a lot of ammunition to turn into sound bites and advertisements.

  74. #478810
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:43 pm, md1964 said:

    I guess McCain hasn’t learned the lessons of the last 8 years.

    Prez. Bush just played along, thinking if he played nice with the Lib-Nazis, that they would come around and be his friend.. after 8 years of nuclear level abuse, one would think it’s time to quit being a whipping post. Hell, I thought McCain was finally waking up when he saw the NYT was only being close and friendly earlyon just to stab him in the back…but I guess he hasn’t learned.

  75. #478811
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:43 pm, WrathOfKhan said:

    Everyone who would vote for McCain deserves him, and I wouldn’t wish McCain on my worst enemy.

  76. #478812
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:44 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    I have to keep reminding myself it took Carter to get us Reagan…

    Reagan had a base. Do we have a base anymore?

  77. #478819
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    I’m just curious. Let’s say Obama wins this year. 2012 primaries: Palin or Romney?

  78. #478822
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:48 pm, Lockstein13 said:

    PBS spokeswoman: “The book has been a known factor for months, so I’m not sure what the big deal is.”

    English translation:

    “We TOLD YOU DUMMIES we were crooked, you got a problem with that?!”

  79. #478824
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:48 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm, JD in D.C. said:
    Accept it:
    McCAIN IS A DEMOCRAT!
    ACCEPT IT!
    Your have 3 choices: a socialist, Ted Kennedy’s best friend, or a third-party.
    That’s it.

    And that’s what confuses us on the other side… Nobody – really, NOBODY – seems to have wanted McCain as the nominee, nobody really wanted him even coming out of the Convention, and more and more people – even here – are publicly saying, “Uh oh!” La Malkin herself said she wouldn’t support him (although, smart woman that she is, she IS supporting the Republican candidate – which is not exactly the same thing…) How did this happen? Romney could have won – pretty easily, in fact – or Huckabee, although that might have been a harder sell. Anyone with some knowledge of McCain’s history would have EXPECTED him to crash and burn (no pun intended)…

  80. #478827
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:50 pm, vickisoup said:

    Ifill won’t destroy her future career options to further by furthering Obama’s ambitions

    Yes, OneMonkeysUncle, that’s our point: Proceeds without any risk at all. She proceeds with impunity. Der.

  81. #478828
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:50 pm, txvet2 said:

    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:43 pm, behiker said:

    If Ifell isn’t fair in her questioning, this will be a perfect opportunity for Sarah Palin to call her out during the debate. And, something about her makes me think that she would do that.

    The media will find nothing unfair in her questioning, and if Palin does, she’ll be accused of whining. No win there. She’ll just have to tough it out. No matter how well she performs, she’ll be rated no better than a tie, which means a win for the bumbler.

  82. #478832
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:53 pm, sandyb said:

    frontierguy said:
    I don’t think McCain wants this job anymore.

    I agree. He should step aside and let Palin or the 2nd-place finisher, Romney, run in his place. McCain is clearly derelict in duty.

  83. #478833
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:54 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    I’m just curious. Let’s say Obama wins this year. 2012 primaries: Palin or Romney?

    Why do you care?

  84. #478836
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:54 pm, txvet2 said:

    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:48 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    McCain was pushed to the front in the early primaries by large crossover votes from Democrats and “independents”. Later wins came mostly from momentum and the press’s assurances that “he was the only one who could beat Hillary”. A great deal of stupidity from members of the Stupid Party, in effect.

  85. #478837
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:54 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    MrVIBEMAN said:

    Her past jobs have included 3 years with the NY Times, a stint at NBC, and she’s on the Board of the Harvard Institute of Politics. If that history doesn’t show her bias, nothing does.

    If Obama wins, her next job will be White House Press Secretary.

  86. #478838
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm, pueblo1032 said:

    What’s the BIG DEAL, and MC CAIN agrees… Boy, I’m back to having a real hard time with OL’ JUAN getting this CONSERVATIVES vote… SARAH notwithstanding, this is starting to resemble DOLE/KEMP again… To quote the GREAT AMERICAN LINGUIST Yogi Berra, “De ja vous, all over again”.

  87. #478839
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm, ackvil said:

    Maybe I should write in Romeny’s name. McCai is beyond clueless.

  88. #478840
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    O

    n October 1st, 2008 at 2:50 pm, vickisoup said:
    Ifill won’t destroy her future career options to further by furthering Obama’s ambitions
    Yes, OneMonkeysUncle, that’s our point: Proceeds without any risk at all. She proceeds with impunity. Der.

    Maybe I wasn’t clear. I meant, Ifill wouldn’t risk her own future by gaming the debate – I don’t think any journalist would. Ifill’s book will sell to its intended audience whether Obama wins or loses. I think she’ll tread extra carefully, particularly since you’ve brought so much scrutiny to bear on her questioning. Any more than Brokaw will put his own, growing Elder-Statesmen-cum-Journalist image at risk to assist McCain.

  89. #478842
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:57 pm, Glamchild said:

    “I think Americans will find out the same thing they did after they put in Carter. ”

    _________________________

    We won’t be alive that long. Carter, at least, didn’t get us all killed. This time around, it won’t be just a Hostage situation.

  90. #478843
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:57 pm, ammo john said:

    “Be more- PBS”

    More like “Be More Pro Barack Supporting”

  91. #478846
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:58 pm, tarpon said:

    Well, they may be right, when you have Democrats with financial stakes in Fannie Mae, what’s the matter with a debate moderator having a financial stake in the debate outcome?

    Just Democrats as usual. Hands in every pocket.

    Maverick, isn’t that an old TV spaghetti western.

  92. #478847
    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:59 pm, sandyb said:

    md1964 said:
    I guess McCain hasn’t learned the lessons of the last 8 years.
    …but I guess he hasn’t learned.

    You can’t teach an old dog…

  93. #478849
    On October 1st, 2008 at 3:00 pm, dominigan said:

    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:37 pm, Glamchild said:

    They have 31 days in October. That’s 31 days for Palin to take to the streets (video cam in hand) and take her case directly to the common man

    That’s a great idea… except… how will they get that message out? With pretty much all the visual news stations covered, who would ever see it?

  94. #478851
    On October 1st, 2008 at 3:01 pm, txvet2 said:

    On October 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    O

    Your comments indicate that you think that liberals and conservatives are motivated by the same stimuli, and that they will be treated the same by the rest of the media for doing the same things. You’re wrong on all counts. Not that Brokaw is a conservative.

  95. #478855
    On October 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm, abqalan said:

    It’s all over folks…Say hello to the United Socialist States of America in January. McCain is an idiot.

  96. #478857
    On October 1st, 2008 at 3:03 pm, RevJim said:

    It’s my ill fortune to work behind enemy lines at an MSM outlet (a major daily). I haven’t run into one colleague who sees a conflict of interest here. They don’t even wonder about it.

    The people in the cubicles around me are preoccupied (today as usual) with loudly trashing Palin and McCain. Sample quotes: “They should let Michelle Obama debate [Palin]. She’d slap that b-tch.” “Palin is SUCH white trash!” “If they’re elected, can you imagine the HILLBILLIES she’ll bring from Alaska to Washington?” “McCain? He makes me want to VOMIT. He looks like an old man’s shrunken penis!” All said so loudly I can’t focus on my work, then followed by gales of laughter.

    Just so you’ll know … it’s now conventional wisdom that Katie Couric unmasked Palin’s stupidity and ill-preparedness.

    MSM’ers see Ifill as beyond reproach and assume she will be “impartial.”

    Seeking… new… career….

  97. #478860
    On October 1st, 2008 at 3:04 pm, max said:

    PBS = PDS Broadcasting

  98. #478862
    On October 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm, changer1701 said:

    Reagan had a base. Do we have a base anymore?

    Yes. I still think the majority of this country is center right, and if you have a candidate who can espouse conservative principles, actually believe in them, and couple it with Reagan’s optimism, then you’ve got a winner and someone the base and right-leaning indies would crawl over broken glass to support.

    Right now we don’t have that. We have a virtual independent who joins in the gloom and doom of the Left, who doesn’t talk about ideas and policy and contrast them with the other side’s idiocy.

  99. #478866
    On October 1st, 2008 at 3:08 pm, sandyb said:

    OneMonkeysUncle said:
    And that’s what confuses us on the other side…

    Not hard to do.

    Nobody – really, NOBODY – seems to have wanted McCain as the nominee

    Okay, Moneyboy, want to hear how it went down? Let’s review. Back in February, I think it was, the dems had interchangeable candidates, one-size-fits-all socialists. If all your candidates believe the same things, why vote in the primary?

    Then some bright/libs got the brainstorm that New Hampshire — which didn’t require voter affiliation — would be the best place to take out the good GOP candidates and put in a dog. Like I said, all commies are interchangeable, so why bother? They decided to “help” the GOP with their choice.

    You can Google stories (there might be one or two in the MSM) about the people that voted a few times and about the lax voting rules concerning NH residency requirements.

    Simply put, libs can only win by cheating. Seig Heil, Comrade.

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