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	<title>Comments on: The Senate votes: Crap Sandwich 2.0 with sugar on top passes 74-25</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Dear Congress: Put the gun down now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Dear Congress: Put the gun down now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1, at the behest of Paulson, the Senate scurried to put Mother of All Bailouts 2.0 on the table. All but 25 members swallowed. The &#8220;world&#8217;s greatest deliberative body&#8221; had no time to hold hearings, consider [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1, at the behest of Paulson, the Senate scurried to put Mother of All Bailouts 2.0 on the table. All but 25 members swallowed. The &#8220;world&#8217;s greatest deliberative body&#8221; had no time to hold hearings, consider [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Sovereign Wealth Fund Threat: Are Chinese Communists Behind Rush In Passing Bailout Bill? &#171; Pronk Palisades</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sovereign Wealth Fund Threat: Are Chinese Communists Behind Rush In Passing Bailout Bill? &#171; Pronk Palisades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mike.musculus</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/the-senate-votes-crap-sandwich-20/comment-page-3/#comment-481427</link>
		<dc:creator>mike.musculus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RedPill, I&#039;ve never had a beef with you.  Joy is simply stating what the bulk of conservative media have been saying, and from the outside, I&#039;d have to agree with her.  Outward appearences certainly make the case.

What stops me from making an issue about it is that Romney himself said that he&#039;s never felt any bigotry from Huckabee.  I remember during an interview, when Sean H. kept pushing it on his (Romney&#039;s) plate, Romney kept dumping it on the floor telling Sean that it wasn&#039;t so.  His absolute certainty convinced me there was more here than either are saying.

Who am I to argue with the man who&#039;s there and personally knows Huckabee?  I can only conclude that regardless of surface appearences, it isn&#039;t so.

I will admit to being a little sensitive with all the Anti-Mormon lit. being mainstreamed these days, though.

So, let us mend our fences and drop-kick these Socialists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RedPill, I&#8217;ve never had a beef with you.  Joy is simply stating what the bulk of conservative media have been saying, and from the outside, I&#8217;d have to agree with her.  Outward appearences certainly make the case.</p>
<p>What stops me from making an issue about it is that Romney himself said that he&#8217;s never felt any bigotry from Huckabee.  I remember during an interview, when Sean H. kept pushing it on his (Romney&#8217;s) plate, Romney kept dumping it on the floor telling Sean that it wasn&#8217;t so.  His absolute certainty convinced me there was more here than either are saying.</p>
<p>Who am I to argue with the man who&#8217;s there and personally knows Huckabee?  I can only conclude that regardless of surface appearences, it isn&#8217;t so.</p>
<p>I will admit to being a little sensitive with all the Anti-Mormon lit. being mainstreamed these days, though.</p>
<p>So, let us mend our fences and drop-kick these Socialists!</p>
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		<title>By: ITookTheRedPill</title>
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		<dc:creator>ITookTheRedPill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike.musculus,
  My post was in direct response to &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Shmuckabee clearly is a religious bigot.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  I was pushing back against that attitude, not the LDS church as a whole.  I was not trying to pick a fight with LDS, and I apologize for my words giving that impression.  I think that we have a lot more in common than different.  (And you can put any two people in a room and there will be something about which they disagree).  LDS and Evangelicals typically vote very similarly, and it is important that we don&#039;t fight each other.  I&#039;ve even had LDS members compliment me on my blog.  

We do have significant theological differences, but in the context of politics, we are on the same team.

Truce?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike.musculus,<br />
  My post was in direct response to<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Shmuckabee clearly is a religious bigot.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>  I was pushing back against that attitude, not the LDS church as a whole.  I was not trying to pick a fight with LDS, and I apologize for my words giving that impression.  I think that we have a lot more in common than different.  (And you can put any two people in a room and there will be something about which they disagree).  LDS and Evangelicals typically vote very similarly, and it is important that we don&#8217;t fight each other.  I&#8217;ve even had LDS members compliment me on my blog.  </p>
<p>We do have significant theological differences, but in the context of politics, we are on the same team.</p>
<p>Truce?</p>
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		<title>By: poetics.info &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Senate Passes Bailout Bill: Et tu, McCain?</title>
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		<dc:creator>poetics.info &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Senate Passes Bailout Bill: Et tu, McCain?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a great job reporting on and opposing this corporate welfare bill. She has the roll call votes here (or you can see them on the U.S. Web site, here) and information on who to contact to fight [...]</description>
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		<title>By: drfredc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stealth Reparations -- 

It&#039;s time to start calling a spade a spade, a pig a pig, and reparations as reparations.  This entire fiasco is related to the Dem&#039;s attempt to provide &#039;reparations&#039; under the radar of the average bubba.  The language tucked away in this reparations bill clarifies things just peachy -- Taxpayers are on the hook for buying up mortgages of minorities who can&#039;t pay for their house.  Minorities are being given reparations -- opps, ah, I didn&#039;t mean reparations, it&#039;s a free house....  

Fine print -- anyone who calls crap as crap, a pig a pig or reparations as reparations will be also called a racist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stealth Reparations &#8212; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to start calling a spade a spade, a pig a pig, and reparations as reparations.  This entire fiasco is related to the Dem&#8217;s attempt to provide &#8216;reparations&#8217; under the radar of the average bubba.  The language tucked away in this reparations bill clarifies things just peachy &#8212; Taxpayers are on the hook for buying up mortgages of minorities who can&#8217;t pay for their house.  Minorities are being given reparations &#8212; opps, ah, I didn&#8217;t mean reparations, it&#8217;s a free house&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Fine print &#8212; anyone who calls crap as crap, a pig a pig or reparations as reparations will be also called a racist&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike.musculus</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike.musculus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me preface this by saying I&#039;ve usually enjoyed (and agreed with) your posts.  You have a refreshing store of knowledge concerning the Founding Fathers, and have taught me some things, for which I am grateful.

&lt;blockquote&gt;On October 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 am, ITookTheRedPill said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
On October 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 am, Joy said: 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It would have been better for our party and our country if Mitt had stayed in the race. Instead, he quit saying, “I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror”. Do you really believe terrorism is the reason why Romney quit? I don’t.

Shmuckabee clearly is a religious bigot. 
Let me guess…you’re a Mormon/LDS, right?

&lt;em&gt;I’ve heard that line over and over and over and over from Mormons/LDS. The truth is that the real bigotry has been from Mormons/LDS against Evangelicals. “Bigot” seems to be their favorite word. Much like “racist” seems to be Democrats’ favorite word. I’ve written several posts about the bigotry I witnessed from Mormons against Evangelicals.&lt;/em&gt;
That point alone makes me not like him or trust him. Add that to his left-wing politics and you’ve completely lost me.
It is a lie to call his politics “left-wing”. Stop lying about Huckabee.

That’s it. I’ve said what I said and I’m done. Just show some respect for MM by not trying to make her blog, your blog……
If Michelle Malkin thinks I’m being disrespectful, she’ll tell me herself. I suggest you show some respect for MM by not trying to moderate her blog.

Those who can’t handle the truth
try to silence those who speak it.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Careful, sir.  &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I am LDS.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Have the Evangelicals been treated to the following law, &lt;strong&gt;anywhere in the US?&lt;/strong&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/findingaids/miscMormonRecords.asp?rec=eo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tiff of both orders)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Missouri Governor Lilburn W. Boggs issued Missouri Executive Order Number 44 on October 27, 1838. 

Missouri Executive Order Number 44 is better known as the Mormon Extermination Order. 

Hundreds of Mormons were beaten, lynched, murdered, looted, tarred and raped under color of Executive Order Number 44. 

* * * 

Missouri Executive Order Number 44: 

Headquarters of the Militia, 
City of Jefferson, Oct. 27, 1838. 

General John B. Clark: 

Sir: Since the order of this morning to you, directing you to cause four hundred mounted men to be raised within your division, I have received by Amos Reese, Esq., of Ray county, and Wiley C. Williams, Esq., one of my aids, information of the most appalling character, which entirely changes the face of things, and places the Mormons in the attitude of an open and avowed defiance of the laws, and of having made war upon the people of this state. Your orders are, therefore, to hasten your operation with all possible speed. 

The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the state if necessary for the public peace--their outrages are beyond all description. 

If you can increase your force, you are authorized to do so to any extent you may consider necessary. I have just issued orders to Maj. Gen. Willock, of Marion county, to raise five hundred men, and to march them to the northern part of Daviess, and there unite with Gen. Doniphan, of Clay, who has been ordered with five hundred men to proceed to the same point for the purpose of intercepting the retreat of the Mormons to the north. 

They have been directed to communicate with you by express, you can also communicate with them if you find it necessary. Instead therefore of proceeding as at first directed to reinstate the citizens of Daviess in their homes, you will proceed immediately to Richmond and then operate against the Mormons. Brig. Gen. Parks of Ray, has been ordered to have four hundred of his brigade in readiness to join you at Richmond. The whole force will be placed under your command. 

I am very respectfully, 
your ob&#039;t serv&#039;t, 

L. W. Boggs, 
Commander-in-Chief. 



&lt;strong&gt;Missouri Governor Christopher Bond rescinded Executive Order 44 in 1976&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please note that the reason the Mormons were under attack was that they were very strongly in the anti-slavery movement, and it was feared that they would tip Missouri into the anti-slavery column.

Most LDS I know, (and because I travel &lt;strong&gt;a lot&lt;/strong&gt; in my job, I know quite a few) were against Romney or were reluctantly for him.

Rush, Hewitt, Hannity &amp; Beck have all commented on Huckabee&#039;s lack of Conservatism.  And his Religion Card tactics.  Are you telling me Rush is LDS?  Hannity&#039;s lying about his Cath. creds?  Yes, I know Beck is LDS.

You reference Home Schoolers organized for Huckabee.  If high schoolers were competent to run the world, they would 
be.

You&#039;ve written several posts about LDS bigotry?  Put in google &quot;anti-mormon&quot; and you get: &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;...of about 199,000 for anti-mormon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.  Most of those by &quot;Evangelicals&quot;.  You complain about a little push-back? Like those blacks who call not-blacks who complain about the Race Card, you use the same tactic.

Please note, I condemn the contention &amp; push-back. see &lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptures.lds.org/3_ne/11/29#29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3 Nephi 11:29&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;b&gt;DO NOT LIBEL MY CHURCH, SIR!&lt;/b&gt;

I disagree with, but understand Romney&#039;s choice.  He was bombarded from all sides with advice saying he needed to &quot;play by the GOP rules&quot; to have a political future.  Add that to the &quot;Only McCain can save us in the WOT&quot; lie and it isn&#039;t hard to understand Romney&#039;s choice.  Personally, I think that disqualified him, but oh well.

As you have seemed to be someone who always touts &#039;look at what a person does, not says&#039;, I&#039;m frankly surprised at your pro-huck stance.  Just look at his promises, the laws he pushed, and the resultant stats for his state.  He&#039;s Clinton lite.

As a man who&#039;s mind is mostly gears and spreadsheets, I can say that the data tells the story.

Lastly:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Those who can’t handle the truth
try to silence those who speak it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh! You must mean:&lt;blockquote&gt;That point alone makes me not like him or trust him. Add that to his left-wing politics and you’ve completely lost me.
It is a lie to call his politics “left-wing”. Stop lying about Huckabee.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Note that Romney has never accused anyone of bigotry, and has protested on several talk shows, (Rush, Hannity, Beck) that he didn&#039;t feel any of that from Huckabee.  I heard these protestations with my own ears, so I know that they happened.  Why do you insinuate that he&#039;s played the bigot card?

In closing, I hope that this new-found ungentlemanly behavior is an aberration, and not some new wrinkle you&#039;ve decided to implement in your future posts.

&lt;em&gt;aside:
Michelle, I&#039;m sorry about the length, I simply couldn&#039;t allow the wholesale smearing of my Church to 
stand.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me preface this by saying I&#8217;ve usually enjoyed (and agreed with) your posts.  You have a refreshing store of knowledge concerning the Founding Fathers, and have taught me some things, for which I am grateful.</p>
<blockquote><p>On October 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 am, ITookTheRedPill said: </p>
<blockquote><p>
On October 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 am, Joy said:
</p></blockquote>
<p>It would have been better for our party and our country if Mitt had stayed in the race. Instead, he quit saying, “I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror”. Do you really believe terrorism is the reason why Romney quit? I don’t.</p>
<p>Shmuckabee clearly is a religious bigot.<br />
Let me guess…you’re a Mormon/LDS, right?</p>
<p><em>I’ve heard that line over and over and over and over from Mormons/LDS. The truth is that the real bigotry has been from Mormons/LDS against Evangelicals. “Bigot” seems to be their favorite word. Much like “racist” seems to be Democrats’ favorite word. I’ve written several posts about the bigotry I witnessed from Mormons against Evangelicals.</em><br />
That point alone makes me not like him or trust him. Add that to his left-wing politics and you’ve completely lost me.<br />
It is a lie to call his politics “left-wing”. Stop lying about Huckabee.</p>
<p>That’s it. I’ve said what I said and I’m done. Just show some respect for MM by not trying to make her blog, your blog……<br />
If Michelle Malkin thinks I’m being disrespectful, she’ll tell me herself. I suggest you show some respect for MM by not trying to moderate her blog.</p>
<p>Those who can’t handle the truth<br />
try to silence those who speak it.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Careful, sir.  <em><strong>I am LDS.</strong></em></p>
<p>Have the Evangelicals been treated to the following law, <strong>anywhere in the US?</strong> (<a href="http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/findingaids/miscMormonRecords.asp?rec=eo" rel="nofollow">tiff of both orders)</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Missouri Governor Lilburn W. Boggs issued Missouri Executive Order Number 44 on October 27, 1838. </p>
<p>Missouri Executive Order Number 44 is better known as the Mormon Extermination Order. </p>
<p>Hundreds of Mormons were beaten, lynched, murdered, looted, tarred and raped under color of Executive Order Number 44. </p>
<p>* * * </p>
<p>Missouri Executive Order Number 44: </p>
<p>Headquarters of the Militia,<br />
City of Jefferson, Oct. 27, 1838. </p>
<p>General John B. Clark: </p>
<p>Sir: Since the order of this morning to you, directing you to cause four hundred mounted men to be raised within your division, I have received by Amos Reese, Esq., of Ray county, and Wiley C. Williams, Esq., one of my aids, information of the most appalling character, which entirely changes the face of things, and places the Mormons in the attitude of an open and avowed defiance of the laws, and of having made war upon the people of this state. Your orders are, therefore, to hasten your operation with all possible speed. </p>
<p>The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the state if necessary for the public peace&#8211;their outrages are beyond all description. </p>
<p>If you can increase your force, you are authorized to do so to any extent you may consider necessary. I have just issued orders to Maj. Gen. Willock, of Marion county, to raise five hundred men, and to march them to the northern part of Daviess, and there unite with Gen. Doniphan, of Clay, who has been ordered with five hundred men to proceed to the same point for the purpose of intercepting the retreat of the Mormons to the north. </p>
<p>They have been directed to communicate with you by express, you can also communicate with them if you find it necessary. Instead therefore of proceeding as at first directed to reinstate the citizens of Daviess in their homes, you will proceed immediately to Richmond and then operate against the Mormons. Brig. Gen. Parks of Ray, has been ordered to have four hundred of his brigade in readiness to join you at Richmond. The whole force will be placed under your command. </p>
<p>I am very respectfully,<br />
your ob&#8217;t serv&#8217;t, </p>
<p>L. W. Boggs,<br />
Commander-in-Chief. </p>
<p><strong>Missouri Governor Christopher Bond rescinded Executive Order 44 in 1976</strong>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Please note that the reason the Mormons were under attack was that they were very strongly in the anti-slavery movement, and it was feared that they would tip Missouri into the anti-slavery column.</p>
<p>Most LDS I know, (and because I travel <strong>a lot</strong> in my job, I know quite a few) were against Romney or were reluctantly for him.</p>
<p>Rush, Hewitt, Hannity &amp; Beck have all commented on Huckabee&#8217;s lack of Conservatism.  And his Religion Card tactics.  Are you telling me Rush is LDS?  Hannity&#8217;s lying about his Cath. creds?  Yes, I know Beck is LDS.</p>
<p>You reference Home Schoolers organized for Huckabee.  If high schoolers were competent to run the world, they would<br />
be.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve written several posts about LDS bigotry?  Put in google &#8220;anti-mormon&#8221; and you get: <i><b>&#8230;of about 199,000 for anti-mormon</b></i>.  Most of those by &#8220;Evangelicals&#8221;.  You complain about a little push-back? Like those blacks who call not-blacks who complain about the Race Card, you use the same tactic.</p>
<p>Please note, I condemn the contention &amp; push-back. see <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/3_ne/11/29#29" rel="nofollow">3 Nephi 11:29</a></p>
<p><b>DO NOT LIBEL MY CHURCH, SIR!</b></p>
<p>I disagree with, but understand Romney&#8217;s choice.  He was bombarded from all sides with advice saying he needed to &#8220;play by the GOP rules&#8221; to have a political future.  Add that to the &#8220;Only McCain can save us in the WOT&#8221; lie and it isn&#8217;t hard to understand Romney&#8217;s choice.  Personally, I think that disqualified him, but oh well.</p>
<p>As you have seemed to be someone who always touts &#8216;look at what a person does, not says&#8217;, I&#8217;m frankly surprised at your pro-huck stance.  Just look at his promises, the laws he pushed, and the resultant stats for his state.  He&#8217;s Clinton lite.</p>
<p>As a man who&#8217;s mind is mostly gears and spreadsheets, I can say that the data tells the story.</p>
<p>Lastly:</p>
<blockquote><p>Those who can’t handle the truth<br />
try to silence those who speak it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh! You must mean:<br />
<blockquote>That point alone makes me not like him or trust him. Add that to his left-wing politics and you’ve completely lost me.<br />
It is a lie to call his politics “left-wing”. Stop lying about Huckabee.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note that Romney has never accused anyone of bigotry, and has protested on several talk shows, (Rush, Hannity, Beck) that he didn&#8217;t feel any of that from Huckabee.  I heard these protestations with my own ears, so I know that they happened.  Why do you insinuate that he&#8217;s played the bigot card?</p>
<p>In closing, I hope that this new-found ungentlemanly behavior is an aberration, and not some new wrinkle you&#8217;ve decided to implement in your future posts.</p>
<p><em>aside:<br />
Michelle, I&#8217;m sorry about the length, I simply couldn&#8217;t allow the wholesale smearing of my Church to<br />
stand.</em></p>
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		<title>By: frontierguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>frontierguy</dc:creator>
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		<description>Basil Exposition: Austin, the Cold War is over! 
Austin Powers: Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh? Eh comrades? Eh? 
Basil Exposition: Yes, Austin... we lost!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basil Exposition: Austin, the Cold War is over!<br />
Austin Powers: Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh? Eh comrades? Eh?<br />
Basil Exposition: Yes, Austin&#8230; we lost!</p>
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		<title>By: You&#8217;re going to eat this&#8230; and LIKE it &#124; Notes from the Trail</title>
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		<dc:creator>You&#8217;re going to eat this&#8230; and LIKE it &#124; Notes from the Trail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the financial world, that analogy doesn&#8217;t carry over. I like how Michelle Malkin put it in her entry this a.m.: Crap sandwhich 2.0 with sugar on top. It doesn&#8217;t matter how the deluded D.C. dipwads coat [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the financial world, that analogy doesn&#8217;t carry over. I like how Michelle Malkin put it in her entry this a.m.: Crap sandwhich 2.0 with sugar on top. It doesn&#8217;t matter how the deluded D.C. dipwads coat [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ITookTheRedPill</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/the-senate-votes-crap-sandwich-20/comment-page-3/#comment-480398</link>
		<dc:creator>ITookTheRedPill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The timing of the Senate vote stole any hope of media coverage for &lt;a href=&quot;http://demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=JimsJournal.Detail&amp;Blog_ID=b8a0f925-c614-6eb7-19c8-d66ae258efc1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this conservative &quot;win&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The timing of the Senate vote stole any hope of media coverage for <a href="http://demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=JimsJournal.Detail&amp;Blog_ID=b8a0f925-c614-6eb7-19c8-d66ae258efc1" rel="nofollow">this conservative &#8220;win&#8221;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ITookTheRedPill</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/the-senate-votes-crap-sandwich-20/comment-page-3/#comment-480391</link>
		<dc:creator>ITookTheRedPill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God that Senator Jim DeMint was willing to tell &lt;a href=&quot;http://demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=JimsJournal.Detail&amp;Blog_ID=ba941c40-dcc0-914f-7353-82ff38b75c53&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the truth about this travesty&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God that Senator Jim DeMint was willing to tell <a href="http://demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=JimsJournal.Detail&amp;Blog_ID=ba941c40-dcc0-914f-7353-82ff38b75c53" rel="nofollow">the truth about this travesty</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ITookTheRedPill</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/the-senate-votes-crap-sandwich-20/comment-page-3/#comment-480371</link>
		<dc:creator>ITookTheRedPill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On October 2nd, 2008 at 9:14 am, Send_Me said: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Deeds vs. words. I was referencing his governing actions. You are referencing his words. There is a big difference, which is why so many “conservatives” (whatever that word means anymore) have been suckered into voting for McCain/Palin. Also, you mentioned Homeschooling, if I recall. Here’s an interesting article about that concerning Huckabee.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While I respect WND and Joseph Farah, his &quot;Homeschoolers beware!&quot; post is alarmist and off-base.  Mike Huckabee is a friend, not foe, of homeschoolers, and most homeschoolers know that.
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We are building AFG from within the homeschooling community because homeschoolers have a strong track record for innovation, organization and success,&quot; Escobar remarks. &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=45431&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Just ask Mike Huckabee&lt;/a&gt;.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

HucksArmy.com was created by 19-year-old Brett and Alex Harris, &lt;strong&gt;homeschool graduates &lt;/strong&gt;from Portland, Oregon.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=45374&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Huckabee, Paul labeled as most family friendly&lt;/a&gt;

But I always like to use primary sources whenever possible.  Why not look at Mike Huckabee&#039;s own words when he spoke at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phc.edu/PHCNews_2008_05_21.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patrick Henry College’s Commencement 2008&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On October 2nd, 2008 at 9:14 am, Send_Me said: </p>
<blockquote><p>Deeds vs. words. I was referencing his governing actions. You are referencing his words. There is a big difference, which is why so many “conservatives” (whatever that word means anymore) have been suckered into voting for McCain/Palin. Also, you mentioned Homeschooling, if I recall. Here’s an interesting article about that concerning Huckabee.</p></blockquote>
<p>While I respect WND and Joseph Farah, his &#8220;Homeschoolers beware!&#8221; post is alarmist and off-base.  Mike Huckabee is a friend, not foe, of homeschoolers, and most homeschoolers know that.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We are building AFG from within the homeschooling community because homeschoolers have a strong track record for innovation, organization and success,&#8221; Escobar remarks. &#8220;<a href="http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=45431" rel="nofollow">Just ask Mike Huckabee</a>.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>HucksArmy.com was created by 19-year-old Brett and Alex Harris, <strong>homeschool graduates </strong>from Portland, Oregon.</p>
<p><a href="http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=45374" rel="nofollow">Huckabee, Paul labeled as most family friendly</a></p>
<p>But I always like to use primary sources whenever possible.  Why not look at Mike Huckabee&#8217;s own words when he spoke at <a href="http://www.phc.edu/PHCNews_2008_05_21.php" rel="nofollow">Patrick Henry College’s Commencement 2008</a></p>
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		<title>By: taggart</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/the-senate-votes-crap-sandwich-20/comment-page-3/#comment-480370</link>
		<dc:creator>taggart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a new-found respect for my Senators Dorgan and Conrad. They both voted &quot;Nay&quot;! Huh? Are they feeling ok?
I&#039;m guessing this respect will be short-lived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a new-found respect for my Senators Dorgan and Conrad. They both voted &#8220;Nay&#8221;! Huh? Are they feeling ok?<br />
I&#8217;m guessing this respect will be short-lived.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/the-senate-votes-crap-sandwich-20/comment-page-3/#comment-480350</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do my NJ senators have a backbone?

Nope. Losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do my NJ senators have a backbone?</p>
<p>Nope. Losers.</p>
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		<title>By: ITookTheRedPill</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/the-senate-votes-crap-sandwich-20/comment-page-3/#comment-480323</link>
		<dc:creator>ITookTheRedPill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On October 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 am, Joy said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;hitcharide *itooktheredpill’s alias, cough*&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dead wrong.  We&#039;re two different people.  (And hitcharide, thank you for your kind words)

&lt;blockquote&gt;On one thread alone, there were only 46 comments and 19 were yours his. Yes, I counted them because I couldn’t believe how many posts I had to scroll past. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Excuse me for being passionate about the defense of our great nation.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Who would blame Romney for not showing up at some set-up? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The four candidates who didn&#039;t show up for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.valuesvoterdebate.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Values Voter Debate&lt;/a&gt;:
1) Insulted the seven other candidates who did show up,
2) Essentially gave the finger to Values Voters, and
3) All directly contributed to McCain becoming the nominee of our party.  

Thompson was McCain&#039;s stalking horse in SC.  

Giuliani was McCain&#039;s stalking horse in FL.  

Romney did everything in his power to hand the nomination to McCain on a silver platter on February 7th and again on February 14th.  Romney should have stayed in the race.  Neither Romney nor Huckabee had to get to 1191...they only had to keep McCain from getting to 1191, and it would have gone to a brokered convention.  

A brokered convention would have resulted either in someone other than John McCain winning the nomination, or John McCain making significant concessions to conservatives in order to win the nomination.  

It would have been better for our party and our country if Mitt had stayed in the race.  Instead, he quit saying, &quot;I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror&quot;.  Do you really believe terrorism is the reason why Romney quit?  I don&#039;t.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Shmuckabee clearly is a religious bigot. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let me guess...you&#039;re a Mormon/LDS, right?

I&#039;ve heard that line over and over and over and over from Mormons/LDS.  The truth is that the real bigotry has been from Mormons/LDS against Evangelicals.  &quot;Bigot&quot; seems to be their favorite word.  Much like &quot;racist&quot; seems to be Democrats&#039; favorite word.  I&#039;ve written &lt;a href=&quot;http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/?s=bigoted&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;several posts&lt;/a&gt; about the bigotry I witnessed from Mormons against Evangelicals.

&lt;blockquote&gt;That point alone makes me not like him or trust him. Add that to his left-wing politics and you’ve completely lost me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is a lie to call his politics &quot;left-wing&quot;.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/stop-lying-about-huckabee/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stop lying about Huckabee&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s it. I’ve said what I said and I’m done. Just show some respect for MM by not trying to make her blog, your blog……&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If Michelle Malkin thinks I&#039;m being disrespectful, she&#039;ll tell me herself.  I suggest you show some respect for MM by not trying to moderate her blog.

Those who can&#039;t handle the truth 
try to silence those who speak it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On October 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 am, Joy said: </p>
<blockquote><p>hitcharide *itooktheredpill’s alias, cough*</p></blockquote>
<p>Dead wrong.  We&#8217;re two different people.  (And hitcharide, thank you for your kind words)</p>
<blockquote><p>On one thread alone, there were only 46 comments and 19 were yours his. Yes, I counted them because I couldn’t believe how many posts I had to scroll past. </p></blockquote>
<p>Excuse me for being passionate about the defense of our great nation.</p>
<blockquote><p>Who would blame Romney for not showing up at some set-up? </p></blockquote>
<p>The four candidates who didn&#8217;t show up for the <a href="http://www.valuesvoterdebate.com/" rel="nofollow">Values Voter Debate</a>:<br />
1) Insulted the seven other candidates who did show up,<br />
2) Essentially gave the finger to Values Voters, and<br />
3) All directly contributed to McCain becoming the nominee of our party.  </p>
<p>Thompson was McCain&#8217;s stalking horse in SC.  </p>
<p>Giuliani was McCain&#8217;s stalking horse in FL.  </p>
<p>Romney did everything in his power to hand the nomination to McCain on a silver platter on February 7th and again on February 14th.  Romney should have stayed in the race.  Neither Romney nor Huckabee had to get to 1191&#8230;they only had to keep McCain from getting to 1191, and it would have gone to a brokered convention.  </p>
<p>A brokered convention would have resulted either in someone other than John McCain winning the nomination, or John McCain making significant concessions to conservatives in order to win the nomination.  </p>
<p>It would have been better for our party and our country if Mitt had stayed in the race.  Instead, he quit saying, &#8220;I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror&#8221;.  Do you really believe terrorism is the reason why Romney quit?  I don&#8217;t.</p>
<blockquote><p>Shmuckabee clearly is a religious bigot. </p></blockquote>
<p>Let me guess&#8230;you&#8217;re a Mormon/LDS, right?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that line over and over and over and over from Mormons/LDS.  The truth is that the real bigotry has been from Mormons/LDS against Evangelicals.  &#8220;Bigot&#8221; seems to be their favorite word.  Much like &#8220;racist&#8221; seems to be Democrats&#8217; favorite word.  I&#8217;ve written <a href="http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/?s=bigoted" rel="nofollow">several posts</a> about the bigotry I witnessed from Mormons against Evangelicals.</p>
<blockquote><p>That point alone makes me not like him or trust him. Add that to his left-wing politics and you’ve completely lost me.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is a lie to call his politics &#8220;left-wing&#8221;.  <a href="http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/stop-lying-about-huckabee/" rel="nofollow">Stop lying about Huckabee</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>That’s it. I’ve said what I said and I’m done. Just show some respect for MM by not trying to make her blog, your blog……</p></blockquote>
<p>If Michelle Malkin thinks I&#8217;m being disrespectful, she&#8217;ll tell me herself.  I suggest you show some respect for MM by not trying to moderate her blog.</p>
<p>Those who can&#8217;t handle the truth<br />
try to silence those who speak it.</p>
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