SARAH ROCKS!

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 2, 2008 10:50 PM

First, I would like to see all the Sarah doubters and detractors in the Beltway/Manhattan corridor eat their words.

Eat them.

Sarah Palin is the real deal. Five weeks on the campaign trail, thrust onto the national stage, she rocked tonight’s debate.

She was warm, fresh, funny, confident, energetic, personable, relentless, and on message. She roasted Obama’s flip-flops on the surge and tea-with-dictators declarations, dinged Biden’s bash-Bush rhetoric, challenged the blame-America defeatism of the Left, and exuded the sunny optimism that energized the base in the first place.

McCain has not done many things right. But Sarah Palin proved tonight that the VP risk he took was worth it.

Her performance also underscored the underhandedness of the hatchet job editors at ABC News and CBS News, which failed to capture her solid competence on the whole array of foreign and domestic policy issues on the debate table tonight. (I didn’t care for all the “greed” rhetoric, but I understand they are trying to appeal to independents and Dems. They’re trying to win the election.)

Pause to reflect on this: She matched — and trumped several times — a man who has spent his entire adult life on the political stage, run for president twice, and as he mentioned several times, chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Sarah Palin looked presidential.

Joe Biden looked tired.

Sarah made history.

Biden is history.

***

Prediction: Watch for a whole new, severe strain of Palin Derangement Syndrome to begin tonight.

They hated her before tonight. They are going to pour on more unfathomable hate at a level we have never seen before.

Sarah, we’re praying for you.

***

Frank Luntz’s focus group agrees: Sarah rocks.

Reader Brett had a sharp observation: “Palin amazingly avoided falling into a trap when Gwen Ifill asked whether she agreed with Biden on a [particular] issue — instead Palin repeated the question and stated her answer — rather than say ‘I agree’ — like Obama said so many times at an earlier debate.”

Yes, that was excellent.

Mark Levin:

I have been involved in and observed politics for a long time. Governor Palin is a truly unique national figure. She is down to earth, personable, and smart as hell. That’s right. She has been on the national scene for a little over a month, she has been campaigning everywhere, she has had to bone up on all kinds of national issues, and she has shown class throughout. Too often too many are persuaded by the mainstream media’s opinion and react to that. This should be another lesson in that regard. As for some of her populist views, she cannot openly campaign against the positions of her presidential running mate. She is the bright light in this campaign from my perspective.

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Previous: Liveblogging the debate.

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As for Gwen “Age of Obama” Ifill, she behaved herself for the most part. She was duly chastened. But the questions and the controversy and the double standards don’t go away. As I wrote in my column this week:

It’s not the color of your skin, sweetie. It’s the color of your politics. Perhaps Ifill will be able to conceal it this week. But if the “stunning” “Breakthrough” she’s rooting for comes to pass on January 20, 2009, nobody will be fooled.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

***

As I noted in my liveblog, Gwen Ifill failed to disclose her book and financial conflict of interest at the start of the debate. It’s a travesty.

Andy McCarthy (whose terrific column blasting Ifill/PBS’s “Do as I say-ism” is here) adds:

…it was an unmitigated disgrace for her to be presiding — and she is smart enough to know that, so not stepping aside was a culpable act.

Spot on.

***

Jim Hoft attended the Palin post-debate rally. Great photos.

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  1. #301
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 9:54 am, Boomer said:

    Coming into this thread late, but the wife and I thought Sarah was outstanding yesterday and the out right lies by Biden did him in, but then again we are informed on the anointed ones positions and it made his statements laughable. She is the only reason we will not sit at home on Nov 4, truly a master stroke for the grumpy old man. Thanks again Michelle for giving us an opportunity to share and vent while getting the facts.

  2. #302
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 9:57 am, Digshot said:

    If you weren’t worried, you’d attack her positions or the substance of what she says. All you and your ilk can do is call her names.

    Where’s the substance? She doesn’t even answer questions. She dodges easy, uncomplicated questions. She thinks the worst thing that Cheney has done was the duck hunting accident? What’s the substance of that?

    Surely, you know we can get many, many youtube videos of your guys making much more embarrassing gaffes. 58 states? TV in 1929? sweetie? needing an Indian accent in the Dunkin Donuts?

    I see absolutely no equivalence between those statements and Palin’s absolute vacancy.

  3. #303
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 9:58 am, cheapseat said:

    way to go sarah. now don’t take any crap from these gotcha morons in the msm. give them a dose of sarah instead because the real people love it.

  4. #304
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 9:58 am, Socky said:

    During the debate, Biden claimed to have recently met with patrons at Katie’s Diner in Wilmington. Problem: That diner closed eighteen years ago.

  5. #305
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 am, Digshot said:

    we’ve noticed thats all you can do. you cannot argue the substance of any issue. you’re a typical lib. all you can do is parrot talking points. independent thinking is not encouraged in the democratic party. and if you could think for yourself you wouldn’t be a democRAT.

    That’s one of the most backwards statements I’ve ever read.

  6. #306
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 am, englishqueen01 said:

    I see absolutely no equivalence between those statements and Palin’s absolute vacancy.

    Yeah - those gaffes are indicators of inherent ignorance and stupidity.

    Palin, on the other hand, can learn.

  7. #307
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:01 am, ex-expat said:

    BTW, While I have been voltuneering at the local Northern VA Republican headquarters, I notice a roll of stickers which read: “Women for McCain” in pink. Went back a couple of days later and the roll had gone, presumably been used up. Might want to see if the local Republican campaign office has some to hand out.

  8. #308
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:01 am, right4life said:

    That’s one of the most backwards statements I’ve ever read.

    I’m sorry, I sholdn’t have used those big words, they confuse you, and you’re already very confused.

    I’ll try to talk s l o w l y so you can understand, and I’ll try not to use big words!! :P

  9. #309
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:03 am, John Deaux said:

    For my two cents, I thought she did quite well. You could see Biden try to attack, but she’d have none of it. She has an obvious grasp of both the issues and McCain’s stance on that issue. She was personable and even humorous at times, whereas Biden was stiff and did little but whine about Bush.

  10. #310
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:06 am, Tazed and Confused said:

    90 minutes of banter and no mention of immigration or abortion!

  11. #311
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:08 am, Misscheryl said:

    The only reason I’m not staying home in Nov. is because of Palin. I have every confidence in her that she will do what is needed whether as VP or, God forbid something happen to McCain, President. Surround yourself with intelligent people like the past presidents have done and she’ll be fine. I have faith and confidence in her, I have none - zip - in congress or Barack and not a whole lot for McCain. I believe McCain does have the character that Barack lacks. Personnally, I’m done engaging in this stuff..I’m water logged with all the MSM crap, democrat crap…I’ll cast my vote and hope for the best and we will see what happens.

  12. #312
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:09 am, John Deaux said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 am, Digshot said:

    You are about as transparent as lgm here. There is nothing anyone can ever say that will sway your position. Do you ever actually think through the things you say or just read the Dem talking points?

  13. #313
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:10 am, sbw999 said:

    Biden was ..well Biden..thats to say, condescending at times, long winded at times, and inaccurate many times. Palin was less than great, often repeating too many mantras (the word “maverick” must have been said 25 times, or at least it sounded like it). A few too many “ummm’s” before an answer, and a little bit convoluted in what she was saying (I am familiar with her positions, but sometimes she didnt articulate them that well). But overall, she did well, and I felt won the debate.

    For her part I thought Ifill was fair to both candidates, though she got zinged once by Palin, which she derserved. But the broohaha about her book, seemed to work for Palin, as I think the moderator held back her obvious bias.

  14. #314
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:11 am, freeman said:

    I’m disappointed we have a such a low bar for the republican VP candidate. Biden was direct, and had numbers to support what he was saying. Palin was articulate but without substance.

  15. #315
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:12 am, Digshot said:

    Yeah - those gaffes are indicators of inherent ignorance and stupidity.

    Palin, on the other hand, can learn.

    For a bunch of George Bush’s people to have the gall to harp on somebody for months for saying that there are 57 states is just unbelievable. Do you really think Obama thinks there are 57 states?

    And thank God Biden gave you that out with FDR. No matter how many clips of Sarah Palin saying something ridiculous surface, they can never compare to Joe Biden saying that FDR was on TV.

  16. #316
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 am, right4life said:

    Diggy:

    you don’t get it, you think Biden is so smart, but it doesn’t matter he is WRONG on the issues, from the alaska pipeline to trying to partition iraq.

    same with your savior Obama. do you think talking to Ahmadinajad or nasrallah is going to matter? all they want to hear is ‘I submit’. they have the same old liberal solutions that haven’t worked for the last 70 years, and its a sign of insanity to think doing the same thing over and over will produce different results.

  17. #317
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 am, right4life said:

    Biden was direct, and had numbers to support what he was saying.

    this should be good for laugh, go ahead and list those ‘numbers’

  18. #318
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 am, Digshot said:

    You are about as transparent as lgm here. There is nothing anyone can ever say that will sway your position. Do you ever actually think through the things you say or just read the Dem talking points?

    What has anybody said that’s supposed to sway me? So far, I’ve had people tell me how I worried I am, and people have tried to put a few misstatements by Democrats on the same level as Sarah Palin’s televised humiliation.

    I don’t need anybody to tell me what to say about somebody claiming she’s got foreign policy experience because she lives sort of close to Russia. I can figure out what’s wrong with that on my own, thanks.

  19. #319
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 am, Mister P said:

    The Dems still think they are running against Bush. The part where Biden had to keep spitting out “Bushes” was hilarious.

    It is a stupid strategy because the Dems lost to Bush TWICE. It is a case of fighting the old war.

    In the process Biden just came out looking negative (and as we see loose with the facts). Palin is optimistic, which is just what we need in these times (Remind anyone of Reagan). Job well done.

    Let the liberal elite once again demonstrate there own arrogance. I am seeing it with the trolls rummaging this site.

  20. #320
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 am, right4life said:

    and people have tried to put a few misstatements by Democrats on the same level as Sarah Palin’s televised humiliation.

    Biden could have screamed GET THE SQUIRRELS OF ME last night, and you’d still say the same thing. laughable.

  21. #321
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:22 am, Mister P said:

    What has anybody said that’s supposed to sway me?

    Lets see, we are just simple minded middle class people and we just don’t understand the wisdom of the effete East Coast liberals. What can I say :=)

    Now tell me why I should not think that Obama is not a product of the Chicago Democratic political machine?

  22. #322
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:22 am, right4life said:

    Democrat Candidates Debate, July 23, 2007:
    QUESTION: … [W]ould you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries? OBAMA: I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration — is ridiculous.

    Biden at last night’s Vice-Presidential candidates’ debate:

    Can I clarify this? This is simply not true about Barack Obama. He did not say sit down with Ahmadinejad.

    uh huh….

  23. #323
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:25 am, Digshot said:

    Biden could have screamed GET THE SQUIRRELS OF ME last night, and you’d still say the same thing. laughable.

    Except he didn’t.

    Meanwhile, I get up this morning to find yet another clip of Palin making a joke of herself.

  24. #324
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:25 am, cicerokid said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:11 am, freeman said:
    I’m disappointed we have a such a low bar for the republican VP candidate. Biden was direct, and had numbers to support what he was saying. Palin was obummer is articulate but without substance.

    There, fixed it for ya.

  25. #325
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:26 am, Mulligan said:

    Gov. Palin was outstanding in the debate. From the handshake at the start, when she asked Senator Biden if she could call him Joe, she took command of the situation. She didn’t let Ifill or Biden push her around, but made her points with personality and charm.
    Shame on Biden, he’s proud of the shabby treatment he gave Justice Bork in his confirmation hearings which kept him off the Supreme Court and so preserved Roe V Wade. Proud of contributing to 40 million dead babies, Biden? Unbelievable.

  26. #326
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:27 am, right4life said:

    Except he didn’t.

    Meanwhile, I get up this morning to find yet another clip of Palin making a joke of herself.

    he lied, straight up lied, with his response about obama and ahmadinajad.

    again you cannot dispute the issues, just engage in personal attacks, you’re a typical democRAT

  27. #327
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    I don’t usually believe in conspiracies, but when I got home from work yesterday, both my DirecTV and cable internet connections were out. If a storm hadn’t come through while I was at work I would almost believe that my new McCain/Palin yard sign prompted someone to sabotage my debate viewing for the evening. Luckily, my wife had a tiny hand-held TV that received the local stations (until February!) so we didn’t miss it. The ComCast guy comes today and the DirecTV guy tomorrow. Ugh!

  28. #328
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 am, Member-VRWC said:

    On October 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:
    I meant “outside the relatively small group of people I believe are qualified to be next-in-line for the Presidencyt of the United States.” Anyone who believes she Obama IS in that group clearly has painfully distorted vision of what it means to be President of the United States.

    Fixed it for ya, dipstick.

    Uncle, you keep focusing on the VP. Forget about the heart beat away stuff for a minute and look to the top of each ticket. The dems are running the living definition of empty suit. His running mate said so just 6 months ago.

  29. #329
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 am, Riffman said:

    I thought Sarah was spectacular last night.

    How is it that a dumb housewife political neophyte spanked Mr. Senator & Ms. Media with charm, grace and hard-hitting substance?

    I have seen her criticised for not answering some of the questions, but I think some of her best moments were when she gave a nice succinct answer and then shifted gears to a topic she wanted.

    She has a gift. The MSM tries to paint her as lacking substance. What she has is an ability to connect to real Americans in a way that the libs will never understand.

  30. #330
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:32 am, right4life said:

    here from your savior’s website:

    Diplomacy: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior. Obama and Biden would offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress.

    link

    Biden at last night’s Vice-Presidential candidates’ debate:

    Can I clarify this? This is simply not true about Barack Obama. He did not say sit down with Ahmadinejad.

  31. #331
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 am, Digshot said:

    Lets see, we are just simple minded middle class people and we just don’t understand the wisdom of the effete East Coast liberals. What can I say :=)

    A regular human being actually using the term ‘effete East Coast liberals’ in a sentence just blows my mind.

    Now tell me why I should not think that Obama is not a product of the Chicago Democratic political machine?

    I guess he is. What’s that matter? Was George Bush the product of the Texas Republican political machine? Is John McCain as a politician the product of his wife’s money?

  32. #332
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:41 am, Digshot said:

    he lied, straight up lied, with his response about obama and ahmadinajad.

    What was the lie?

    again you cannot dispute the issues, just engage in personal attacks, you’re a typical democRAT

    It’s not a personal attack to question whether or not someone is equipped with the mental facilities to be the President of the country that I live in.

  33. #333
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:43 am, sambo said:

    Digshot said:
    Where’s the substance? She doesn’t even answer questions. She dodges easy, uncomplicated questions.

    I guess you would prefer her to lie. Lie about not wanting to use clean coal.
    Lie about McCains votes.
    Lie about Obama votes.
    Lie about…ect ect

    or should she have started asking herself the questions as Biden did?

    or should she have kept saying that if so and so was here that they would agree with him?

  34. #334
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:43 am, karl9000 said:

    Did anyone else catch Biden’s statement that he and O want to not only reduce the interest on “troubled” loans, in order to help the “middle-class”, but they also reduce the priniple?

    Is this part of the bailout or something B&O want to do? The impact would be statggering.

  35. #335
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:43 am, Socky said:

    I guess (Obama is the product of the thoroughly corrupt Chicago political machine). What’s that matter?

    Indeed, corruption doesn’t matter to Democrats. That’s why William Jefferson gets to keep his seat and his chairmanship, why Nancy Pelosi gets to pay her husband out of her PAC money, why Barney Frank gets to oversee the FSE his boyfriend is an executive for, why Chris Dodd gets sweetheart deals from Countrywide, why Mel Reynolds gets a pardon from Bill Clinton…

    It’s appalling, but typical, that Democrats don’t care about the corruption in their own party.

  36. #336
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:46 am, right4life said:

    What was the lie?

    can’t you read? he denied that obama would sit down with ahmadinajad.

    It’s not a personal attack to question whether or not someone is equipped with the mental facilities to be the President of the country that I live in.

    but a proven liar and plagiarist if ok with you…what am I saying, its the democratic MO

  37. #337
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:49 am, right4life said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:43 am, karl9000 said:
    Did anyone else catch Biden’s statement that he and O want to not only reduce the interest on “troubled” loans, in order to help the “middle-class”, but they also reduce the priniple?

    my favorite part was when Biden said he wanted to help people pay for oil to heat their homes, but of course he doesn’t want us to drill anywhere to lower the price of that oil…

  38. #338
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 am, abqalan said:

    Fundamental difference,Fundamental difference,Fundamental difference, the last 8 years,the last 8 years,the last 8 years,let me say this again,let me say this again,let me say this again, Biden want a cracker? Say it ain’t so, JOE. Good job, Sarah.

  39. #339
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 am, sambo said:

    abqalan said:
    Fundamental difference

    Sarah had the chance to bury him when he said that. She got it half right but she should have said:
    No Joe! the fundamental difference is that Obama wants to lose in Iraq and McCain wants to win.

    It always doubles the impact when you use the other persons words!

  40. #340
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 am, old_texan said:

    How do you know when a Dem is telling a lie? Their mouth is moving….ta da

  41. #341
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 am, conservativesRus said:

    Hey all - just remember it’s not income re-distribution when you take money from one person and give it to another. It’s called fairness. I heard it last night. So what I want to do is take money from the food stamp budget and give it to those who can give the food stamp recipients jobs (ie - the “rich”). I heard that’s not income re-distribution….it’s fairness.
    Or did I miss something?

  42. #342
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 am, right4life said:

    where’d diggy go? thought he could debate the issues? guess he needs another fax from the DNC…

  43. #343
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 am, John Deaux said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 am, Digshot said:

    You are about as transparent as lgm here. There is nothing anyone can ever say that will sway your position. Do you ever actually think through the things you say or just read the Dem talking points?

    What has anybody said that’s supposed to sway me? So far, I’ve had people tell me how I worried I am, and people have tried to put a few misstatements by Democrats on the same level as Sarah Palin’s televised humiliation.

    I don’t need anybody to tell me what to say about somebody claiming she’s got foreign policy experience because she lives sort of close to Russia. I can figure out what’s wrong with that on my own, thanks.

    My point was that no matter how well she did or how poorly Biden did, there is nothing anyone can say that will sway you. You are a simple minded drone for Obama, not a person who can think a position through to it’s conclusion. You hear “Change” and think “yes, that’s exactly what we need!” without any consideration of what needs changing, or how or why or what the downstream effects will be.

    Want evidence? You describe Palin’s performance as “televised humiliation” without giving any proof despite the fact that even Democratic strategists and independent focus groups say she performed well. Your PDS is coming through loud and clear.

    Your purpose here is to try to get the conservatives riled up by simply disagreeing with everything rather than conceding some points and arguing others. You’re just a verbose lgm.

  44. #344
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Bill Grant said:

    3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

    Good points in that post.

    And I wish the MSM and Dems would get called on on the BS statistic of having 3% of the reserves and using 25% of the oil.

    The 3% number is from estimates that use 1970’s technology fer craps sake! And it IGNORES oil shale deposits.

    Besides… why in the HELL should we but oil and natural gas from scum wads in the middle east, Russia, Venezuela and Mexico when we can drill for and use our own?

    Way too many people are eating up this Dem Party line on oil reserves. It’s crap and they know it. They also know a lot of people won’t question it.

  45. #345
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 am, CWinNY said:

    I thought Sarah could have gone a little easier on the “down home” style, but otherwise thought she did an excellent job. Joe Biden demonstrated why his fellow democrats gave him less than 3% of the vote when he ran for president. I suspect he was selected as assassination insurance for Obama - nobody would want to see this idiot as president.

  46. #346
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 am, RobM1981 said:

    What pinned Palin down was her candidate. Every time Biden went “Senator” on her, blowing facts and figures out his rump, she could have gone for the throat.

    “Great, Joe - now lets talk about how you got us into the mess we’re in now. It’s not George Bush, Joe, it’s the congress…”

    Only one problem: Juan is part of that congress. Biden knew that her hands were tied, and he played his cards well.

    Do I think he won? No. I think Palin outshined him again and again. I think her points on energy (a fact-laden response there, for the few imbeciles here who keep stating that her arguments were empty) and energy independence drew serious blood.

    Nobody believes that Obiden has ever lifted so much as a finger to make us energy independent. Obama’s claims that he’s for wind power are just that - wind. Where is the trail of legislation that he has authored?

    But, again, Palin couldn’t bring that up. People would point out “hey, you’re right… a Senator CAN initiate legislation… why didn’t Juan do that, again? Why aren’t we already drilling?”

    She slapped him like a naughty child, to the degree that she could, given the Juanbatross around her neck.

  47. #347
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    people have tried to put a few misstatements by Democrats

    uhh.. that would be LIES by democrats.

    I’d rather have someone who messed up some interview than two deceitful liars any day of the week.

    Mis-statements my ass….

  48. #348
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am, CWinNY said:

    Di*sh*t,

    One of the things I enjoy doing is reading rebuttals of Democrats who comment here. I suspect you must be employed by Michelle Malkin to make an ass of yourself so the rest of us can respond. You certainly don’t engage in any mindful debate of facts, just repeat the same lame talking points over and over. It is amusing to read.

  49. #349
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am, Omu said:

    Did you all just selectively ignore the fact that she was very obviously reading almost everything from her cards. Like, almost everything. That’s not presidential, sorry.

  50. #350
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 am, sambo said:

    NJ-Aviator said:
    And I wish the MSM and Dems would get called on on the BS statistic of having 3% of the reserves and using 25% of the oil.The 3% number is from estimates that use 1970’s technology fer craps sake! And it IGNORES oil shale deposits.

    And coal deposits!
    Repubs need to counter/re-frame it as we use less than 25% of the oil and account for over 27% of the words GDP!

  51. #351
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 am, CWinNY said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am, Omu said:

    Did you all just selectively ignore the fact that she was very obviously reading almost everything from her cards. Like, almost everything. That’s not presidential, sorry.

    Maybe she should have used a teleprompter like someone else we know.

    I agree, anyone who needs to read constantly is not presidential.

  52. #352
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 am, old_texan said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am, Omu said:

    Did you all just selectively ignore the fact that she was very obviously reading almost everything from her cards. Like, almost everything. That’s not presidential, sorry.

    OMG! Not presidential! What the hell was she thinking? Wait…shes not running for president, is she? I just get so mixed up on this political race.

    sarc off/

  53. #353
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    Nice work Omu - poor Sarah Palin, her supports say she won because she didn’t blow herself up.

    This is getting pretty embarrassing, you folks are trying to support the most unintelligent person in this campaign (which is fine) but you are trying to convince smart people that Palin is up to the task.

  54. #354
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 am, socal99 said:

    Palin did a fantastic job. Go, go, go!

    Ifil and “professional” journalists should be shamed for this conflict of interest. Look at what baseball, as a profession, did to Pete Rose for his conflicts of interest.

  55. #355
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am, right4life said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 am, Ilovemycountry

    so being the biggest liar is the most intelligent?

    interesting how you libs think…

  56. #356
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 am, right4life said:

    but you are trying to convince smart people that Palin is up to the task.

    yeah you’re a legend in your own mind.

    laughable. keep telling yourself how smart you are…cause no one else will..

  57. #357
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 am, frostrt said:

    Right on, right4life!

    and may I add re: Sarah’s debate performance:

    WOOT WOOT!

  58. #358
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:47 am, harbormaster said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:26 am, Mulligan said:
    …Shame on Biden, he’s proud of the shabby treatment he gave Justice Bork in his confirmation hearings which kept him off the Supreme Court and so preserved Roe V Wade. ….

    As I watched this I told my wife that Gov. Palin missed an oppurtunity here. When Biden explained how he had changed the way he considered court appointments qualifications to include taking into consideration an appointees stance on an issue. This is completely unconstitutional, as the authority to do so is not granted to the Senate.

    U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 2
    The President shall…have Power…to nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint … Judges of the supreme Court…

    I’d have jumped all over him.
    Other than that, I am happy with the Gov.’s performance.

  59. #359
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 am, CWinNY said:

    Ilovemycountry,

    In my younger days, I voted for Jimmy Carter. I thought he was honest, had good values, and was intelligent. We are still paying for his actions as president. Google Community Reinvestment Act (root cause for the financial mess we are in). Jimmy was famous for the windfall profits tax on the oil companies - the net result is that the oil companies capped many low producing wells, and we became even more dependent on foreign oil. Robert Mugabe is also a legacy of Jimmy Carter.

    Four years of this was enough for me. I have been a staunch conservative since. Paraphrasing Winston Churchill: If you are not liberal when young, you have no heart; if you are not conservative when you are older, you have no brain

  60. #360
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 am, Member-VRWC said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    you are trying to convince smart people that Palin is up to the task

    On the contrary, smart people don’t need to be convinced; they already know she’s up to the task.

    So now we’re trying to convince ignorant crapweasels … like you.

  61. #361
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 am, conservativesRus said:

    This is getting pretty embarrassing, you folks are trying to support the most unintelligent person in this campaign (which is fine) but you are trying to convince smart people that Palin is up to the task.

    And you are more intelligent than her?
    Exactly what are your accomplishments to back up your ability to claim intelligence?
    Do you even know what “the task” is?

  62. #362
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 am, old_texan said:

    Gov. Palin is a rare gem in the cesspool that is Washington. It is very nice to have someone that is a real person and not just another from a long line of career politicians.

  63. #363
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 12:02 pm, John Deaux said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 10:41 am, Digshot said:
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am, Omu said:
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    On October 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 pm, ajmontana said:

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    McCain/Palin 08′
    Image: Go Sarah Go!!!!

    I Love It Too, aj!

  64. #364
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm, imjustsaying said:

    Went to a prayer breakfast this morning with about 20 people from my church and of course the main topic was the debate last night. While everyone is voting McCain, primarily because of the abortion issue, the general consensus was that the only reason Sarah Palin did so well is because she didn’t trip and fall on the stage. The bar was set so low that all she had to do was stand upright and try to answer the questions. We’re all voting McCain but we’re not fooling ourselves into thinking that Gov. Palin would have the slightest idea of what to do if something were to happen to McCain.

  65. #365
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 12:16 pm, right4life said:

    We’re all voting McCain but we’re not fooling ourselves into thinking that Gov. Palin would have the slightest idea of what to do if something were to happen to McCain.

    please she wants to drill in ANWR, mccain doesn’t.

  66. #366
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm, keylime said:

    I’m watching the tape now -

    My first impression is that Gov. Palin came across as one of “us”, Biden of “me”.

  67. #367
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 12:34 pm, escondidoguy said:

    Palin was wonderful because she’s real and she speaks for all of us that are sick and tired of the in-your-face feminists, the lie-to-your-face Washington elite, the we-know-everything Hollywood dingbats and the America-last demonic Dems. America loves you Sarah !

  68. #368
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 12:36 pm, old_texan said:

    imjustsaying,

    Do you seriously believe that if something happened to McCain that Gov. Palin wouldn’t be able to count on the republican party to assist her in naming a new VP and have cabinet meetings to formulate a plan for the country. A president has never been expected to stand alone in time of crisis. He/she has a huge contingent of people and advisors to assist the president in every decision. He/she does have the last word, but after advice of many people.

    She would step up and make a very good president, in the image of Ronald Regan. Just my two cents, for what its worth.

  69. #369
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 pm, sambo said:

    imjustsaying said:
    the general consensus was that the only reason Sarah Palin did so well is because she didn’t trip and fall on the stage. The bar was set so low that all she had to do was stand upright and try to answer the questions.

    The bar set low. As I said yesterday (and Glen Beck said last night), listening to the news on Wednesday you would think the MSM were voting for here because she was so smart, great debater, ect.

  70. #370
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 1:10 pm, traveler49 said:

    McCain needs to get Sarah out into public now. Completely bypass the press. They mean her harm and will do no good and she is so vibrant and forceful when speaking directly to the people. Last night she shined with her positive and forward looking approach to everything. Plus, she wants to drill, and I say drill baby, drill.

  71. #371
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 1:20 pm, atheling said:

    Joe Biden said:

    “But Barack Obama indicated to me he wanted me with him to help him govern. So every major decision he’ll be making, I’ll be sitting in the room to give him my best advice. ”

    So I guess when that 3am call comes for Obama, Joe will be sleeping in the bed with him.

  72. #372
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 2:13 pm, Send_Me said:

    On October 3rd, 2008 at 9:06 am, bansharia said:
    Send me ,
    wowza feel better now?

    Not really.
    1. Here we have Congress going against the Constitution, but hey, why not? Since our culture has accepted that truth is relative, why not apply that to the Constitution as well?
    2. A general truth about our politicians: they are more concerned with not losing than they are with being right or winning. The same goes for party followers, especially Republicans.
    3. “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties… This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.” ~ John Adams
    4. “Bipartisanship” means sacrificing principle for expediency or ulterior motives.
    5. McCain isn’t a “fresh” voice: he’s been in Congress for 25+ years.
    6. If McCain and Palin are such “mavericks”, then why do they have party affiliations after their names? I wish none of our politicians were members of political parties and voted on principle, not out of what’s best for the Party. But hey, that won’t work because most Americans are too concerned with identity politics, ad hominem attacks, and superfluous things on which the media focuses. The debate last night was about as intelligent as a 5th Grade student council debate (not to insult the 5th Graders).

  73. #373
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm, bluesoc said:

    he lied, straight up lied, with his response about obama and ahmadinajad.

    Ahmadinejad IS NOT the leader of Iran and IS NOT the commander in chief. These distinctions belong to the SUPREME LEADER and ASSEMBLY OF LEADERS.

    When Obama says he would negotiate with Iran, he is referring to these individuals.

    Also, for my cred on these boards, I am middle class and live (and grew up) in a medium sized town in the mid-west.

  74. #374
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 2:50 pm, CWinNY said:

    Bluesoc,

    What about the other lies Biden told?

    Here’s what the president said when we said no. He insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, “Big mistake. Hamas will win. You’ll legitimize them.” What happened? Hamas won.
    When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, “Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”

    Now what’s happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.

    Those are Joe’s words from last night’s debate. Do you see anything wrong with those statements?

    You might want to read up on this here

  75. #375
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm, right4life said:

    Ahmadinejad IS NOT the leader of Iran and IS NOT the commander in chief. These distinctions belong to the SUPREME LEADER and ASSEMBLY OF LEADERS.

    Please, spare me the BS talking points. only a liberal wacko would be stupid enough to believe this.

    oh and you’re probably stupid enough to think there’s any difference:

    TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) — Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Friday for the destruction of Israel, describing it as a “cancerous tumor” in the Middle East.

    link

    such stupidity has to hurt, you must be in a great deal of pain.

  76. #376
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    The part I caught was when she stood there for 20 minutes trying to out-liberal Old Joe on the environment.

    Sorry Republicans. Thanks but no thanks.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  77. #377
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 3:10 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    She thinks the worst thing that Cheney has done was the duck hunting accident?

    Please explain to me exactly what Cheney has done that you disagree with.

  78. #378
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 3:14 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Did you all just selectively ignore the fact that she was very obviously reading almost everything from her cards. Like, almost everything. That’s not presidential, sorry.

    You do know that Obama’s handlers decided he looked so foolish speaking extemporaneously that they decided to take the teleprompter everywhere don’t you? The NY Times had a nice picture of him reading off it to go with their story. As Omu the commentator would say, “That’s not presidential, sorry.”
    And I noticed Biden reading his notes so fast after the questions I wondered if Ifill had provided a numbered list for him.

  79. #379
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 3:17 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Those are Joe’s words from last night’s debate. Do you see anything wrong with those statements?

    CWinNY, my second props today for you! That quote stuck out like a sore thumb last night and I was going to go look for it today. Thanks for doing the legwork already.

  80. #380
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 3:25 pm, akoypinoy said:

    Just out of curiosity, did anyone noticed that Ifill gave Biden more opportunity to make his rebuttal but was quick on the draw to cut Gov. Palin off that she (Gov) didn’t even had the time to think about her own rebuttal. Did anyone keep tracked to the total amount of time each debater had. Bet you that Biden had more than Palin, and that’s considered “Fair and Balance” as far as Ifill is concern.

  81. #381
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    “When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, “Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”

    This is an outright lie. Or Biden is too stupid to understand what happened. Calling all libs, defend this man’s idiotic statement…and he’s supposed to be Mr. Foreign Policy.

  82. #382
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 6:25 pm, Digshot said:

    Please explain to me exactly what Cheney has done that you disagree with.

    The war, the energy meetings, Valerie Plame, torture, warrantless wiretapping, actually asserting in public that he exists on some special plane between the executive and legislative branch… What isn’t there to disagree with?

    And Sarah Palin has repeated time and again that she things there have been blunders and mistakes made by this administration, but when it’s time to name specifics, she can’t do it. The duck hunting accident? That might be dumber than Putin’s big head entering American airspace.

  83. #383
    On October 3rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm, Digshot said:

    It’s Killin em and
    I Love it!!!

    It really isn’t.

    Not even a little bit.

    I promise.

  84. #384
    On October 4th, 2008 at 9:55 am, right4life said:

    Valerie Plame

    you know diggy whats funny is you wackos live in your own alternative universe. cheney didn’t have anything to do with the plame affair. Richard Armitage, state department employee, aid to colin powell, revealed her name. duhhhhhhhh

  85. #385
    On October 4th, 2008 at 9:56 am, right4life said:

    the energy meetings

    I think cheney should release what was they advised him as soon as your messiah reveals what went on it in the meetings between him and Raines, and him and Ayers, don’t you??

    wacko.

  86. #386
    On October 4th, 2008 at 11:42 am, Dimsdale said:

    I wonder why Diggshot feels the need to work so hard to dissuade us of what we know? Most of what he quotes as facts and reason have been debunked, disproved or shown to the fantasies of extremist liberal minds.

    To paraphrase, “The liberal doth protest too much, methinks.”

  87. #387
    On October 4th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The duck hunting accident? That might be dumber than Putin’s big head entering American airspace.

    Dumber than thinking a quail is a duck? They were quail-hunting but as usual (including your boring list) facts elude Dems. That list has been done to death, come back when you have something new and interesting.

  88. #388
    On October 4th, 2008 at 6:59 pm, chapoutier said:

    The war, the energy meetings, Valerie Plame, torture, warrantless wiretapping, actually asserting in public that he exists on some special plane between the executive and legislative branch

    That list has been done to death, come back when you have something new and interesting.

    Oldies but goodies never go out of style, Aloha.

  89. #389
    On October 4th, 2008 at 10:18 pm, Digshot said:

    Dumber than thinking a quail is a duck? They were quail-hunting but as usual (including your boring list) facts elude Dems. That list has been done to death, come back when you have something new and interesting.

    Sarah Palin’s the one that called it the duck-hunting accident.

    And yes, what could be more boring than torture and wars and rampant, pervasive, lawlessness?

  90. #390
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:23 am, right4life said:

    Oldies but goodies never go out of style, Aloha.

    yeah you wackos believe the same old lies. shows how easily led and uneducated you are. and you think you’re the ’smart’ ones *smirk*

    diggy:

    couldn’t respond to my points, now could you? typical wacko lib, truth hurts doesn’t it?? *smirk*

  91. #391
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:14 am, Tranceman said:

    The only thing the debate proved about Sarah Palin is that she was able to prepare enough so as to not make a complete fool of herself. What is it with the Republican party - nominating dolts who believe in talking to an imaginary friend known as god, Bush, Quail, Palin. They could not put together a complete articulate sentence if their life depended on it. The idea of a 72 year old man with a history of cancer standing between Palin and the most powerful office int he world scares the hell out of me. She is way, way out of her depth. Why did not McCain get C. Rice as a running mate. Now there is a smart person, although I don’t agree with her politics all that much.

  92. #392
    On October 6th, 2008 at 12:24 am, unseen said:

    Tranceman,

    you sir are an idiot.

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